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BrooklineBiker

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Student Loan Consolidation?
« on: September 24, 2013, 10:05:01 PM »
Hi everybody,
I have both private ($2,700 at 2.96% variable through ACS) and Direct Consolidation federal student loans ($27,000 at 5.75% fixed serviced through MOHELA). I am giving very strong consideration to consolidating the private loans into federal loans through the US Department of Education.  I am wary of interest rates going up on the private loans. I imagine that today’s low interest rates cannot continue indefinitely. Does anyone think my desire to consolidate is misguided? Do I lose any legal rights in the event I get into financial trouble if I consolidate? Does anyone have tips on the consolidation process?
Thanks,
Neil

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Re: Student Loan Consolidation?
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2013, 10:12:40 PM »
Unless there's a new program I'm not aware of, you can't consolidate private into federal.

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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2013, 06:24:53 AM »
I'll ignore private/public consolidation rules for a second and just treat this as if you could.

So you want to consolidate as a interest-changing hedge.  What are the rules for the variable rate loan?  How often can the rate change?

The amounts are 1:10 so if you consolidated, the overall interest % would go down slightly for your big one compared to what it was but not by that much.  If the threat of higher interest rates bothers you so much and you are certain they are going up and will stay above what they currently are, then a) consolidate or b) pay minimum on the variable loan and throw extra payments on the 5.75% loan UNTIL the period just before they can adjust the interest rate and kill the $2700 or whatever is left all at once.  I think option b is better but that assumes you'd have the ability to kill the variable loan.  If the threat of higher interest rates doesn't bother you as much or you don't think they will go up too much during repayment then I think you are better off keeping them separate and putting extra payments only on the 5.75% loan.

Good luck!

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Re: Student Loan Consolidation?
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2013, 07:33:34 AM »
1.) You can't consolidate private loans with federal student loans (unless you consolidate them into a private loan, which is generally a bad idea). "Private education loans are not eligible for consolidation. " Source: http://studentaid.ed.gov/repay-loans/consolidation#requirements

2.) You can't consolidate a consolidated loan. "Generally, you cannot consolidate an existing consolidation loan again unless you include an additional Direct Loan or FFEL Program loan in the consolidation." Source: see above.

Finaid.org is also a very useful site for learning about student loans. Worrying about interest rates isn't really going to do anything for you. Establish a plan for paying down your loans and stick to it. I don't know your economic situation, but $2.7K would be easy for me to let ride on the lower interest rate, since I could pay it off at once if the rate ever went up. Perhaps you could pay it down to such a point for yourself. Good luck!


 

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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2013, 07:41:05 AM »
Just pay off the private loan immediately. Or save up at least $2,700 extra in your emergency savings in order to be able to pay it off in a pinch if the rate goes up.

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Re: Student Loan Consolidation?
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2013, 10:14:51 PM »
Hi Nancy, Rubybeth, Simonsez, & mlipps,
Thank you all for your very helpful replies. It looks like I will not be consolidating. I did not mention this in my post but I have been thinking of ways to maximize the value of the Public Interest Student Loan Forgiveness program. My hope was to increase the size of the federal loans (which can be forgiven under the program) by merging in the private loans (which cannot be forgiven).
Best,
Neil.

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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2013, 07:43:27 AM »
Hi Nancy, Rubybeth, Simonsez, & mlipps,
Thank you all for your very helpful replies. It looks like I will not be consolidating. I did not mention this in my post but I have been thinking of ways to maximize the value of the Public Interest Student Loan Forgiveness program. My hope was to increase the size of the federal loans (which can be forgiven under the program) by merging in the private loans (which cannot be forgiven).
Best,
Neil.

Nearly $30k in loans doesn't sound like a terrible amount to me. Are you already on track to have your loans forgiven? Is your income truly insufficient to pay these off on your own? I ask because I had over $30k in loans myself when I got my graduate degree, and combined with my DH's loans, we had close to $53k. We paid them off in less than 4 years, making an average of about $75k annually. My sister OTOH has over $100k in loans and makes about half of what DH and I make, and absolutely loves working in the school system, so to me, it makes sense for her to get on the track to forgiveness.

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Re: Student Loan Consolidation?
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2013, 06:59:47 PM »
Nearly $30k in loans doesn't sound like a terrible amount to me. Are you already on track to have your loans forgiven? Is your income truly insufficient to pay these off on your own? I ask because I had over $30k in loans myself when I got my graduate degree, and combined with my DH's loans, we had close to $53k. We paid them off in less than 4 years, making an average of about $75k annually. My sister OTOH has over $100k in loans and makes about half of what DH and I make, and absolutely loves working in the school system, so to me, it makes sense for her to get on the track to forgiveness.
Hi Rubybeth,
Please let me answer your questions in turn:
•   Yes, I am on track to have my loans forgiven. I have worked for tax exempt nonprofits since 2006 and been making my payments.
•   My income would allow me to pay down the loans on my own but not until the very far future and without considerable hardship. I have two children in daycare, I have numerous and expensive medical issues from an auto immune disorder and food allergies, etc.  Any debt that can be eliminated is a help.
•   Here is some additional information that will explain my strong interest in getting this debt off my plate -
1.   I make $62,000 gross.
2.   While in graduate school, I ran up $6,500 in credit card debt.
3.   I owe about $3,300 to my wife in the form of a loan.
4.   My total debt is about $41,900.
5.   I am making timely payments on all of the above.
6.   My family and I live in an expensive Boston suburb.
7.   I should add that my wife has a mortgage in her name on our residence for $646,000 over 30 years.
8.   She is making car payments on a family car that is out of warranty. She has paid that down to the last $1,000 or so.
9.   She makes $74,000 gross. Her employer lays off staff regularly.
Thanks,
Neil

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Re: Student Loan Consolidation?
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2013, 07:23:35 PM »
So I'm going to foot the bill for your student loans because you want to live in a $646,000 house? Gee thanks.

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Re: Student Loan Consolidation?
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2013, 07:42:06 PM »
So I'm going to foot the bill for your student loans because you want to live in a $646,000 house? Gee thanks.
By Boston standards, that is cheap for a house with access to public transit, a safe neighborhood, and good schools. Housing is ridiculously expensive here.

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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2013, 06:44:51 AM »
Okay, just wanted to make sure this wasn't something you could just pay off. I am personally very glad we have this program as an option for folks. My sister is in a similar situation to you (higher cost of living area, has a medical condition, etc.) and if I hadn't gotten the job that I did when I did, I would have probably taken advantage of the program, as well. Good luck!

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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2013, 07:59:00 PM »
Okay, just wanted to make sure this wasn't something you could just pay off. I am personally very glad we have this program as an option for folks. My sister is in a similar situation to you (higher cost of living area, has a medical condition, etc.) and if I hadn't gotten the job that I did when I did, I would have probably taken advantage of the program, as well. Good luck!
Thanks Rubybeth!

 

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