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« on: January 23, 2019, 10:54:19 PM »
 I'm an accountant that only has a year of experience. I got screwed over twice  once with a CPA firm and then a temp to hire job that was just a temp job. I'm now unemployed and feel like maybe I'm having too much fun. Everyday I apply to jobs, call recruiters and try to get in to a volunteer tax program. I hope I can gain experience with taxes. I found out that  I'm too late to volunteer. I feel bad because I stay up late and read and watch movies and then get up at noon and work on job stuff. Should I be doing something else to feel like I'm actually working to get a job? I like reading and watching movies but I feel bad about it.
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2019, 11:29:45 PM »
I wouldn't be hiring you with that attitude. You don't get "screwed over", there are always business decisions behind hires and roles, and circumstances might mean there just isn't a position available for you anymore.

Sooner you understand that the better.

If you are going through the temp agency can you contact the recruitment consultant who got you that last job? They should still have you on their books. Did you leave your previous employers on good terms?


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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2019, 12:14:29 AM »
 

   Your right I might be bitter about what happen. I usually say in interviews I got laid off and the other  job was a temporary job. Anyway I did talk to the temp agency but they don't have anything. I did leave in good terms with all my accounting jobs so at least I have that. Thanks for replying.
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2019, 01:37:47 AM »
I think you might want to take up any temporary job. For yourself to get up in the morning, to earn money and to show an employer that you are willing to work.

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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2019, 02:05:51 AM »
Can you start a side hustle in the tax field? I'm not an accountant but I am a tax professional and I do a side hustle next to my job. I actively chose to find a side hustle in a part of the field that I am pretty good at, but don't get to do in my current job, to keep my skills up.

I'm kind of surprised that you can't find even a temp job during this time of the year. Where I live, financial professionals are scarce and if you're qualified and willing to work you can find a well-paid job tomorrow. If that's not the case where you live, maybe you should investigate if your skills are scarce in some other city and move there.

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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2019, 05:43:24 AM »
Yea sour grapes! Think you need to take a job somewhat in your industry and develop a good work track record.

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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2019, 06:45:29 AM »
I'm an accountant that only has a year of experience and I got screwed over twice  once with a CPA firm and then a temp to hire job that was just a temp job. Im now unemployed and feel like maybe I'm having too much fun. Everyday I apply to jobs, call recruiters and try to get in to a volunteer tax program so I can gain experience with taxes, which didn't help because I'm too late. I feel bad because I stay up late and read and watch movies and then get up at noon and work on job stuff. Should I be doing something else to feel like I'm actually working to get a job? I like reading and watching movies but I feel bad about it.

Not necessarily - if you take and pass the tests online many VITA or AARP sites would be happy to have you. I've volunteered at two different sites in the past two years and noticed some volunteers didn't have their credentials ready until a week into the program starting (which will be most likely early February).

The site to take the tests is:https://www.linklearncertification.com/d/

You also need to use the Practice Lab site to do hypothetical tax returns of varying complexity.


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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2019, 06:54:03 AM »
Go to multiple temp agencies in your area. Not every place has every job. Some firms may even have “exclusive” deals with some well known companies. 

Yeah it sucks to have to go and interview and give them all your info for applications. And yeah it sucks to call every one of them every couple of weeks to say you’re available.  But the squeaky wheel gets the oil!

And every job is a “temp” job.  Especially in at will work states. 

What if you get an offer for a better job while on a temp job???  Take the better offer! Most temp firms only need 1 week notice.  But we grudgingly handle less than that. 

Firms that might be in your area for accounting:

Specialists:
Accountemps
Vaco
CFS
Accountants inc
Global resources
Mergis

Generalists:
Adecco
Kelly
Nesco
Ranstaad

Plus probably 2 dozen local or smaller statewide / small region firms.

Get them ALL working for you.





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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2019, 06:56:50 AM »
That is how "lucky" people never "get screwed", we just fucking WORK no matter what happens.

And another best post of the day...
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2019, 07:11:07 AM »
Online job postings are generally bottom of the barrel jobs. The secret is networking. Ask friends, family, former co-workers and managers, college professors, and anyone else you can find if they know of anyone looking in your field.

I am an accountant as well. I did not have any luck during recruiting season in the fall before I graduated looking for a tax position with any firms. I was talking to a governmental & nonprofit accounting professor I had in a previous semester and asked if she could put me in touch with a recruiter for the state government. She did me one better and emailed the recruiter to brag on me and gave the recruiter my information. After that, the job was a shoo-in. While it wasn't a tax job, it was still a very stable job with great benefits that I can hang around in for a year or two while looking for something that better suits my skills.

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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2019, 07:20:00 AM »
First, and while I know this is an internet forum and you might not be trying, your writing absolutely sucks. Bad grammar, misspellings, poor tone, etc. You need to make sure that's polished up in your professional communications (resume, cover letters, emails, etc.). Maybe use Grammarly or something.

Second, I wholeheartedly agree with the posts by DadJokes and Malkynn. You need to be meeting people and treating every day as work.

Third, and this bears repeating, you need to stop acting like a victim. What you're experiencing is not getting screwed over. It's life.

My brief anecdotal story: during my 2L summer at law school, I had a summer associate position at a 100 lawyer firm. FYI, these summer associate positions almost always turn into real offers, and then boom, you start with a $90,000 salary (or higher). But things went haywire at the firm that summer, and no summer associates were given any permanent offers.

So I went from having a sweet job lined up to nothing. Being a 3L and not having a job is seen by many as a black mark (Why did nobody hire him? What happened at his 2L gig?).  Nobody would bite at anything I did, so I signed up for a career services grant from Ohio State, which paid me $2,000 to work at a firm for three months. Two thousand dollars for three months -- it came out to like $2.20 per hour. But I took it and ran with it -- I applied to a medium sized reputable firm back home.

I clerked there under this grant for three months, and at the end of that, they gave me a permanent offer. I then worked there for about four years, and that experience has been the springboard for me having a good reputation around my town and starting my own law practice, which is going reasonably well.

All this is to say that I'm nothing remarkable -- I'm your average Joe Blow, but not once did I ever play the victim card. Sure, I was disappointed, and I probably had a few more beers than usual when I got no-offered, but it's all about how you react.

So stop with the "I got screwed" mentality. This is the professional world. You are probably reasonably close to my age, so just realize that the way we grew up (Everyone gets a trophy! Everyone gets honors! Everyone is special!) is not even close to how anything actually works in the professional world.

The sooner you understand that, the sooner you will separate yourself from peers who also view themselves as getting "screwed."

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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2019, 07:24:48 AM »
Just take a job as a bookkeeper or payroll specialist to get some experience/foot in the door.  It really doesn't matter as long as it is some type of office job.  Then start looking for a better job from there. Your college professors are good referral sources.  And yes - volunteer in the meantime. 

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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2019, 07:45:53 AM »
When I was unemployed for a few weeks, I sought administrative work through a temp company. This lead to a few short (several days) jobs and eventually to a temp job where I got permanently hired and trained to become a software programmer.

And last time when I wanted to change jobs, I let headhunters do the job. But I didn't take any position the headhunters came up with. Eventually I got my job through my own networking that started several years earlier.

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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2019, 09:03:23 AM »
I just wanted to chime in to say being unemployed sucks.  I got laid off in December, so I'm right there with you.  It is extremely difficult going through each day not knowing what you should be doing and then questioning whether or not you're doing "enough" or if you're conducting your job search the "right" way.  I'll be damned if I know the best way to conduct a job search.  I've only done it once in my life and that was 18 years ago. 

I've reached out to everyone in my network, talked to recruiters/headhunters, sent out resumes, and I surf the job boards everyday looking for suitable positions.  On top of all this, I'm teaching myself about databases/SQL in my free time (which is the only part of my day that actually feels productive).  The rest of the time, I feel like I'm just hoping that I'll get lucky and someone will post an opening that's a good fit for me.  Most days, I think lying in bed would be just as productive as what I'm doing.

Sorry for the rant.  Just wanted to let you know you're not alone in dealing with these kinds of feelings while unemployed.

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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2019, 09:21:12 AM »
the last time i was unemplyed i got sad and drank mountain dew and searched the internet for photos of Mars ROVER  landing
until someoone told me to put on work clothes every morning.  i get a job almost immediately

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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2019, 09:37:15 AM »
the last time i was unemplyed i got sad and drank mountain dew and searched the internet for photos of Mars ROVER  landing
until someoone told me to put on work clothes every morning.  i get a job almost immediately

I lol'd

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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2019, 09:49:21 AM »
Five years ago I probably would have given you the advice Malkynn is giving you, so I'd say go with that (I feel different about capitalism and work and how I spend my time in general these days but I won't sway you. Maybe accounting isn't for you. Maybe you shouldn't be doing things you don't want to be doing and eventually you'll find what it is you do want to do. Maybe the professional world isn't for you. No one here knows your full situation). If you want/need a job at all, it really is an all or nothing thing and I firmly believe you should operate that way. If you really despise working then get in, spend as little as possible while working and invest like mad, then get out. Work hard then play hard when the time is right. But half-assing it won't get you anywhere.

I mean there are a million and one ways to get a job. There's no right or wrong way. The main thing is that you're mentally prepared to work and you don't seem mentally prepared to work at all.

When it comes to talking to people...for me it's a fine line between kissing a bunch of asses and not giving too much of a fuck. People can tell when you're overly eager and it's as much of a turnoff in a professional setting as it is in a relationship one so I tend to err against seeming too needy. But I don't think you have that problem at all (LOL) so you should probably start swinging in the other direction for a bit.
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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2019, 12:01:57 PM »
Five years ago I probably would have given you the advice Malkynn is giving you, so I'd say go with that (I feel different about capitalism and work and how I spend my time in general these days but I won't sway you. Maybe accounting isn't for you. Maybe you shouldn't be doing things you don't want to be doing and eventually you'll find what it is you do want to do. Maybe the professional world isn't for you. No one here knows your full situation). If you want/need a job at all, it really is an all or nothing thing and I firmly believe you should operate that way. If you really despise working then get in, spend as little as possible while working and invest like mad, then get out. Work hard then play hard when the time is right. But half-assing it won't get you anywhere.

I mean there are a million and one ways to get a job. There's no right or wrong way. The main thing is that you're mentally prepared to work and you don't seem mentally prepared to work at all.

When it comes to talking to people...for me it's a fine line between kissing a bunch of asses and not giving too much of a fuck. People can tell when you're overly eager and it's as much of a turnoff in a professional setting as it is in a relationship one so I tend to err against seeming too needy. But I don't think you have that problem at all (LOL) so you should probably start swinging in the other direction for a bit.

Keep in mind, my advice did specifically advise him to take time and reflect on what he actually wants to do if that's what he needs.
I don't recommend going full tilt unless you really know what you want. Also, none of what I recommended should ever come off as desperate or needy, that's actually the opposite of what I would recommend.

There's a huge difference between networking and kissing ass. One works, one doesn't, and if someone interprets networking as kissing ass, then they aren't very good at networking.

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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2019, 12:39:00 PM »

There's a huge difference between networking and kissing ass. One works, one doesn't, and if someone interprets networking as kissing ass, then they aren't very good at networking.

Yeah I agree...and I don't think anything you said insinuated otherwise I just wanted to point that out. I'm more referring to interviews or dealing with companies as well. I guess I could have summed that up by be confident and if you do what you lined out, you will be.

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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2019, 01:53:17 PM »
Hang in there, I know it's tough. I've been there, but things will work out if you show effort. Have thought about studying for the CPA exam while you are looking for a job? Pass some sections and you will become a lot more valuable.

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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2019, 02:51:06 PM »
If you do have a CPA license, don't put that on your resume for entry level, non accountant jobs.  It makes you look over qualified.