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How long will it be until you are FI or RE?

I'm already there!
1-4 years
5-8 years
9-12 years
13+ years

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dmn

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Re: Poll: Years to FI/RE
« Reply #50 on: June 22, 2014, 03:22:18 AM »
The 13+ year option is for those with a low savings rate (40% or less, or at least in that range) or those with a negative net worth (large student loans, for example).

It is also for those with more conservative assumptions on investment returns. With current levels of valuation (low interest, high P/E ratios), the expected real return on current investments is probably below 4% even for equity-heavy portfolios. I use a 3% SWR for my own estimates, and that puts me at ~18 years to retirement with a small initial stache and a 60% savings rate.

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Re: Poll: Years to FI/RE
« Reply #51 on: June 22, 2014, 11:05:58 AM »
The 13+ year option is for those with a low savings rate (40% or less, or at least in that range) or those with a negative net worth (large student loans, for example).

It is also for those with more conservative assumptions on investment returns. With current levels of valuation (low interest, high P/E ratios), the expected real return on current investments is probably below 4% even for equity-heavy portfolios. I use a 3% SWR for my own estimates, and that puts me at ~18 years to retirement with a small initial stache and a 60% savings rate.

(Emphasis added.)  I'd change the word "the" to "my" in that sentence (not mine, but for you).

That's fair enough though, and a good point.  Someone more conservative will have a longer time to ER.  Someone wanting a 3% WR will take longer than a 4%, and someone who is shooting for a 2% WR even longer still.
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Re: Poll: Years to FI/RE
« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2014, 06:17:17 PM »
I went with 1-4. I consider myself "potentially FI" right now - I could stop working, but I don't really want to move to a lower cost of living area. Another 1-4 years should make me more comfortable with my passive revenue.