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dragonwalker

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Need some help reading HOA balance sheet
« on: April 03, 2014, 10:19:48 PM »
Hello everyone,

I am trying to review the balance sheet of an HOA for a complex that I am strongly considering purchasing a unit from. Although I have a general understanding of the information, I have no idea if the figures I see are a good or necessarily bad sign. Are there certain ratios that are good rules of thumb to help me understand this balance sheet? If any of you need specific information, I can provide that.

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Re: Need some help reading HOA balance sheet
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2014, 10:46:41 PM »
I'm not sure where to begin answering this, as I'm not sure what your question is.

They're, IME, pretty straightforward.

In other words.. what part don't you understand on the balance sheet?  (Also make sure you check out their latest reserve study.)
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Re: Need some help reading HOA balance sheet
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2014, 03:23:01 AM »
It should just be cash on the balance sheet? What are you expecting to be there?

Depending on how old the building is, you would hope there is enough cash to cover things like external wall painting every 12-15 years, or a big enough sinking fund to cover structural faults that can and do come up.

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Re: Need some help reading HOA balance sheet
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2014, 07:48:40 AM »
Depending on how old the building is, you would hope there is enough cash to cover things like external wall painting every 12-15 years, or a big enough sinking fund to cover structural faults that can and do come up.

Right, but since OP probably doesn't know when it needs to be painted, or common areas needing a new roof, or whatever, they need to look at the reserve study.
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Re: Need some help reading HOA balance sheet
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2014, 11:19:09 PM »
Well what I mean about reading the balance sheet is figuring out how much is enough to have in reserve. The complex has 36 units but it appears their operating and reserve budget only has a total of $35K. It seems low and this was confirmed by a few others who knew a little bit more about this than I do. Than there are items on there like bad debt which is unclear what that means. I just wanted to know if there are any rough figures to how much cash should be on hand per unit or what numbers are important, etc.

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Re: Need some help reading HOA balance sheet
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2014, 11:26:10 PM »
Well what I mean about reading the balance sheet is figuring out how much is enough to have in reserve. The complex has 36 units but it appears their operating and reserve budget only has a total of $35K. It seems low and this was confirmed by a few others who knew a little bit more about this than I do. Than there are items on there like bad debt which is unclear what that means. I just wanted to know if there are any rough figures to how much cash should be on hand per unit or what numbers are important, etc.

Did you see what I posted about the reserve study?

It may be low due to recent large payouts for some reason.  You absolutely should get ahold of a copy of it and look at it - it's much more important than a simple balance sheet.

Cash on hand per unit is a vague and meaningless thing without knowing much more (e.g. condo units with a shared roof might need more for roof replacement in 2 years versus a neighborhood HOA for SFRs that only needs to paint the streets every once in awhile versus one with a park, etc. etc.).

You first need more detail about the HOA itself and the expected expenses, etc.  Get the reserve study, because that will tell you how much is enough in reserve, and it will help answer that first sentence you wrote in the last post.
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