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MMM App Open Beta
« on: October 09, 2017, 11:02:06 AM »
Greetings fellow Mustachians!

We are officially announcing the open beta of the Android Mr Money Mustache App here on the forums! We worked with Pete over the last year to create the official Mr Money Mustache App to help grow the Mustachian community and connect like minded people (you might recall his tweet earlier this year). We currently only support the Android platform but are actively working on an iOS version right now. The app has been in closed beta since May and is ready for open beta. We can use your help. We would appreciate more testing and feedback before we go public with the final version.

The app currently supports the following features:
  • Read articles and track your progress
  • Get notified when a new article is published
  • Favorite and share the best articles
  • Offline articles so you can read them on the go
  • Read and submit article comments

You can download the app at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.truegem.mmm and you can read more about it at https://www.mrmoneymustacheapp.com/. The app requires minimum Android version 5.0 (Lollipop) and newer.

Our current development plans include the following features:
   iOS version (parity with Android)
   Meetup / Meet a Mustachian
      Mustachian Maps
      Meetup coordination / signups
      Profiles
   Tools
      FI Calculator
      FI Countdown
      Middle-Class to Kickass Analysis
      Measure your Mustache
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While we want to deliver all these features immediately we really want to make sure we have a stable and supportable app first. And as 2 developers in FI we are trying to be realistic regarding how quickly new features will be delivered.

We have great plans for the future and are excited to get your feedback on the app!

Jon & Helen
feedback@mrmoneymustacheapp.com

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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2017, 11:21:21 AM »
Thanks! Downloaded it.

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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2017, 11:52:50 AM »
Can't wait for the iOS version!

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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2017, 01:42:04 PM »
https://www.mrmoneymustacheapp.com/

Off topic and childish, but noticing this tickled me.

Will download, can't wait for the FI calculator.

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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2017, 02:12:14 PM »
Neat! Downloaded.

Thanks J&H.

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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2017, 03:19:05 PM »
Can't wait for the iOS version!

I'm sitting here working on it right at this moment!

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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2017, 06:30:08 PM »
https://www.mrmoneymustacheapp.com/

Off topic and childish, but noticing this tickled me.

Will download, can't wait for the FI calculator.

You found our easter egg! j/k

Funny coincidence though.

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Re: MMM App Open Beta
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2017, 12:05:36 PM »
Nice app.  I'm not sure why it requires the 'read phone status and identity' permission but other that it's great. 

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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2017, 01:11:15 PM »
PTF

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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2017, 02:04:13 PM »
Nice app.  I'm not sure why it requires the 'read phone status and identity' permission but other that it's great.

Good question! We are looking into it right now. That permission first showed up when we installed the Evernote background manager, android-job. We're looking into it further to see if we can remove the need for this.

Absolutely fantastic question, btw! We really appreciate the feedback!

Thank you

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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2017, 12:31:06 PM »
Nice app.  I'm not sure why it requires the 'read phone status and identity' permission but other that it's great.

Good question! We are looking into it right now. That permission first showed up when we installed the Evernote background manager, android-job. We're looking into it further to see if we can remove the need for this.

Absolutely fantastic question, btw! We really appreciate the feedback!

Thank you

We have a new version releasing to alpha today that removes this permission (hopefully releasing to open beta this week). Thanks again for this great find!

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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2017, 01:10:09 PM »
I installed the app the other day and tried to do a few things to break it; it seems to be working very well!

Two things:

1) There's no landing page for the uninitiated. Right now I only see regular readers being the ones to use the app, so that's not a big deal. But, I pretended to be someone looking for personal finance who's never heard of MMM, and I couldn't find anything that would give me a concrete idea of what the site's all about. Just something to keep in mind before open release.

2) Data usage was just a hair high for my liking. I have a obscene amount of data right now so it doesn't actually bother me, but poking around and reading a couple articles, I managed to use 10MB of data. I know most people on here will use this on wifi, but some might use data and have low caps. Is there a way to cut down on the image resolution, or perhaps a low data mode that doesn't pull the images from the blog, just the text? (Edit: I now realize that the offline view can accomplish this...)

Other than that, I like it!

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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2017, 07:00:11 PM »
I installed the app the other day and tried to do a few things to break it; it seems to be working very well!

Two things:

1) There's no landing page for the uninitiated. Right now I only see regular readers being the ones to use the app, so that's not a big deal. But, I pretended to be someone looking for personal finance who's never heard of MMM, and I couldn't find anything that would give me a concrete idea of what the site's all about. Just something to keep in mind before open release.

2) Data usage was just a hair high for my liking. I have a obscene amount of data right now so it doesn't actually bother me, but poking around and reading a couple articles, I managed to use 10MB of data. I know most people on here will use this on wifi, but some might use data and have low caps. Is there a way to cut down on the image resolution, or perhaps a low data mode that doesn't pull the images from the blog, just the text? (Edit: I now realize that the offline view can accomplish this...)

Other than that, I like it!

Thank you for your feedback. We really appreciate it!

We had a feature in a prototype called "Maximum Mustache" designed to help beginner Mustachians track their reading progress from beginning to end. We ended up cutting it so we could focus on getting the app delivered. We definitely agree we would like to do something to help new readers get introduced to MMM.

In regards to the data usage, we agree completely. We really strove to keep the app size and data usage low. The offline feature was designed exactly for this as you mentioned.

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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2017, 08:32:31 PM »
Sweet. Downloading.

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Re: MMM App Open Beta
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2017, 01:32:47 PM »
It doesn't seem to want to download to a tablet. Surely a Mustachian app wouldn't require users to own a fancy-pants smartphone?
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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2017, 03:14:59 PM »
It doesn't seem to want to download to a tablet. Surely a Mustachian app wouldn't require users to own a fancy-pants smartphone?

That's definitely odd. We tested on multiple tablets. What model are you using and do you know what version of Android you are running (e.g. Lollipop - 5.0, Marshmallow - 6.0,  or Nougat - 7.0+)?

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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2017, 05:48:28 PM »
It doesn't seem to want to download to a tablet. Surely a Mustachian app wouldn't require users to own a fancy-pants smartphone?

That's definitely odd. We tested on multiple tablets. What model are you using and do you know what version of Android you are running (e.g. Lollipop - 5.0, Marshmallow - 6.0,  or Nougat - 7.0+)?

I'm not super knowledgeable about these things, but I see "Android version 4.4.4" on the settings.
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« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2017, 12:14:45 AM »
It doesn't seem to want to download to a tablet. Surely a Mustachian app wouldn't require users to own a fancy-pants smartphone?

That's definitely odd. We tested on multiple tablets. What model are you using and do you know what version of Android you are running (e.g. Lollipop - 5.0, Marshmallow - 6.0,  or Nougat - 7.0+)?

I'm not super knowledgeable about these things, but I see "Android version 4.4.4" on the settings.

Short answer:
Unfortunately we only support Android 5.0 and up.

Long / techy answer:
We agonized over the decision to drop support for older Android versions for exactly the reason you pointed out. Our goal was to reach the broadest parts of the Mustachian community and originally we built the app to support version 4.1 and above. However, we ran into a conflict when MMM added https (specifically TLS 1.2) to his website. Ultimately it came down to a decision of security vs broader support since TLS 1.2 (https) wasn't working with the modules we use for interacting with the backend servers.

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« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2017, 10:43:11 AM »
Nice app.  I'm not sure why it requires the 'read phone status and identity' permission but other that it's great.

Good question! We are looking into it right now. That permission first showed up when we installed the Evernote background manager, android-job. We're looking into it further to see if we can remove the need for this.

Absolutely fantastic question, btw! We really appreciate the feedback!

Thank you

We have a new version releasing to alpha today that removes this permission (hopefully releasing to open beta this week). Thanks again for this great find!

Just launched the updated version to open beta. The requirement for 'read phone status and identity' is now removed and the background sync still appears to work (/crossesfingers).

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« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2017, 12:26:14 PM »
crashed the Chromebook Flip, lol!; running fine on the S7

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« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2017, 10:16:22 AM »
crashed the Chromebook Flip, lol!; running fine on the S7

Thanks for the feedback! Glad to hear it's running fine on the S7.

We have yet to test on Chromebook. We've applied to the Google Chromebook emulator beta to see if we can find the issue. The crash didn't report back to our dashboard so we don't have visibility into what might have occurred. It would definitely be cool to see it in large screen mode!