Author Topic: Startup idea: A separate forum specifically for Europeans, inside or out of here  (Read 3468 times)

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As was mentioned in this thread, the investment advice in MMM forums is pretty much US-centric.

I wonder if a completely separate community cater to a Euro-centric crowd would gain enough traction. Heck, the European Union has a considerably larger population than the US. We just tend to speak a bunch of funny languages all over the place, but face similar issues and have similar options.
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Re: A separate forum specifically for Europeans?
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2017, 07:01:15 AM »
It'd also be a nice option for general ethos; so many threads generally praise individualism, which is a far less championed social value in Europe than here.
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Re: A separate forum specifically for Europeans?
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2017, 01:25:36 PM »
   Also a European forum for discussion of cheap visiting options and strategies would be nice for us non-Europeans that spend much of their time day-dreaming about spending their summers in Europe.

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Re: A separate forum specifically for Europeans?
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2017, 01:38:21 PM »
We just tend to speak a bunch of funny languages all over the place, but face similar issues and have similar options.
What gave you that impression?

Every country does retirement differently.

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Re: A separate forum specifically for Europeans?
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2017, 05:44:43 PM »
I'd say you need separate subforums per country, honestly - I mean, there are similarities (the US is the only place where FIREd people have to worry about healthcare costs), but... the UK is completely different to France, to the Netherlands, to Canada, to... etc.

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Re: A separate forum specifically for Europeans?
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2017, 06:42:45 PM »
OK. First of all, my apologies for the misunderstanding. I totally intended to mean a European forum like this outside the mrmoneymustache.com domain. But in the end it doesn't matter: it can be here as well, if you can arrange it.

Every country does retirement differently.

There are differences, sure. But I'm pretty sure the basic idea has at least some similarities as well across Europe; at least compared to the US. Ideally, I'd like to study all the various European pension systems a little and find the best ones. Then, hypothetically or not, emigrate to the country with the best system for my liking, and be productive there.
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I'd say you need separate subforums per country, honestly - I mean, there are similarities (the US is the only place where FIREd people have to worry about healthcare costs), but... the UK is completely different to France, to the Netherlands, to Canada, to... etc.

My single issue here is retirement. At least I'd like to have a pan-European forum for my pet topic: https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/welcome-to-the-forum/retirement-options-for-europeans-living-in-multiple-countries-through-life/

Where else would you put my pet topic? Dividing everything to single European country forums would put all those few, precious European minds into separate silos. Not a good setup for brainstorming together. So at least I'd like to have a big European to brainstorm together on common European themes.

Also at least I'd like to believe that at least some Europeans on this forum are more mobile. Our passports allow us to live and work in 30 or so countries. Some of us might appreciate the opportunity to brainstorm where to go. Shop for countries, so to speak. Might be more effective to do in a common European forum then separate country silos.

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Re: A separate forum specifically for Europeans?
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2017, 06:49:58 PM »
Different currencies, different retirement regulations, different health care, different tax systems, etc. But still, a lot of similarities in our world views and opportunities to move and work in the different countries.

Also; do you want a European forum, or an EU forum (excluding Norway, Switzerland, Iceland, Luxemburg, Russia, and in a few years the UK...)?

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Re: A separate forum specifically for Europeans?
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2017, 09:08:15 PM »
OK. First of all, my apologies for the misunderstanding. I totally intended to mean a European forum like this outside the mrmoneymustache.com domain. But in the end it doesn't matter: it can be here as well, if you can arrange it.

Every country does retirement differently.

There are differences, sure. But I'm pretty sure the basic idea has at least some similarities as well across Europe; at least compared to the US. Ideally, I'd like to study all the various European pension systems a little and find the best ones. Then, hypothetically or not, emigrate to the country with the best system for my liking, and be productive there.
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I'd say you need separate subforums per country, honestly - I mean, there are similarities (the US is the only place where FIREd people have to worry about healthcare costs), but... the UK is completely different to France, to the Netherlands, to Canada, to... etc.

My single issue here is retirement. At least I'd like to have a pan-European forum for my pet topic: https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/welcome-to-the-forum/retirement-options-for-europeans-living-in-multiple-countries-through-life/

Where else would you put my pet topic? Dividing everything to single European country forums would put all those few, precious European minds into separate silos. Not a good setup for brainstorming together. So at least I'd like to have a big European to brainstorm together on common European themes.

Also at least I'd like to believe that at least some Europeans on this forum are more mobile. Our passports allow us to live and work in 30 or so countries. Some of us might appreciate the opportunity to brainstorm where to go. Shop for countries, so to speak. Might be more effective to do in a common European forum then separate country silos.

Honestly what you want is a "non-USA" section.

I would prefer country flags to be available, and in fact mandatory, so that us non-Americans can skip stuff. Of course an EU would be fine. It gets tricky the finer you do it (ie, can Californians have their own thing? Their gdp is greater than many first world countries, after all..)

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Re: A separate forum specifically for Europeans?
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2017, 07:43:00 AM »
Also; do you want a European forum, or an EU forum (excluding Norway, Switzerland, Iceland, Luxemburg, Russia, and in a few years the UK...)?

Luxembourg is part of the EU, in fact, president of the European Commission is a Luxembourger, maybe you have heard of him, he loves alcohol. In no way, shape, or form I want to exclude European Free Trade Association member countries Norway, Switzerland, and Iceland, where EU citizens have the same right to work and live such as in the (yet) 28 EU countries, why would I want to?

In fact, I'd include the whole near abroad of the EU for practical reasons. Check this out:



Why would I want to exclude Albania where a lots of Italian pensioners spend their golden years (similar culture and climate, affordable costs) for example?

Honestly what you want is a "non-USA" section.

No. The US still just accounts for about 1/4 of the world's economy. Ideally, you'd have at least regional groups for distinct regions like North America including Mexico, Central America, South America, European Peninsula, Former Soviet Union, Middle East and North Africa, East Asia, South, Asia, Australia and New Zealanad, Sub-Saharan Africa. Wherever Moustachians come from.

Sure, every country has its peculiarities, but in a region, countries might show similarities. In fact, not the EU is the only trade block, almost every region has a similar one, albeit at a less developed stage. Not yet disintegrating, like the EU. ;)
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Re: A separate forum specifically for Europeans?
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2017, 08:13:32 AM »
Also; do you want a European forum, or an EU forum (excluding Norway, Switzerland, Iceland, Luxemburg, Russia, and in a few years the UK...)?

Luxembourg is part of the EU, in fact, president of the European Commission is a Luxembourger, maybe you have heard of him, he loves alcohol. In no way, shape, or form I want to exclude European Free Trade Association member countries Norway, Switzerland, and Iceland, where EU citizens have the same right to work and live such as in the (yet) 28 EU countries, why would I want to?

In fact, I'd include the whole near abroad of the EU for practical reasons. Check this out:


Why would I want to exclude Albania where a lots of Italian pensioners spend their golden years (similar culture and climate, affordable costs) for example?

Sorry; I always mix up Luxembourg and Lichtenstein.

The EFTA countries have a hangup on the word "EU". We are very much aware that we are not a part of the Union, so when people mix up the two we might just avoid the whole debate, thinking this one is for the insiders.

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Mod Note: I can't see a whole bunch of location-based subforums happening on our forums. It takes a lot of discussions when we agree to add any subforums, the general feeling is that too many water down the ability for lots of diverse feedback and also adds a TON to moderating responsibilities as people already have a hard time figuring out where their topics should go, and everyone else has differing ideas on where your topic should go, and therefore report it for being in the wrong category.

If you want to create another forum or subreddit or something along those lines, please share the link with the community!

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Hi folks.
At the Financial Independence Week Europe, in Timisoara, Romania (Sept 2017) we launched http://FIREhub.eu , the european FIRE portal.
It's a non-commercial project and we'd like to bring together the European FI community.
We started it with:
- Bolgs (a categorised list of over 100 Eurean Fi blogs)
- Curated FI articles
- Events and Meetups in Europe
- A Wiki about EU specific FIRE topics.

What do you think, should we start a Forum here as well?
Looking forward to your feedback.

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Those of you interested in discussing regional FI topics might be interested in checking out the sidebar at https://www.reddit.com/r/financialindependence/

For example, of particular interest to those of you in Europe might be https://www.reddit.com/r/EuropeFIRE/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/eupersonalfinance/

 

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