Is it mustachian to only eat hot cross buns on Good Friday?

[agent_clone]

In Australia they sometimes have icing on them, but "proper" hot cross buns have dough - they are heated in the oven - after all they are HOT cross buns.

As hot cross buns, Easter eggs and all the other Easter fare of various countries are all made of things you can't eat during Lent, it has to finish before Easter (and of course, the last supper is celebrated on Maundy Thursday, so Lent must finish before that). However, some people say Maundy Thursday (evidently this is the liturgical end of lent), and some say Easter Saturday (so how do we eat HXB)! I'm sure I saw Palm Sunday somewhere as being the end of lent. So all I can say is that Google is confusing on this! Sorry to lead you up the garden path SF!

catholic.org and typing 'lent' into google search says Lent ends on Holy Thursday (i.e. the day before Good Friday). source: http://www.catholic.org/clife/lent/faq.php#end . Whether that means you can eat whatever on the Thursday or not I'm not sure... Palm Sunday is definately too early for the Fasting to finish.
My understanding is that a number of practising Christians don't do the whole 40 days of Lent, but will do at least some of it. For example an ex-workmate who was Greek Orthodox generally did 2 weeks of Lent (he liked his meat too much to do it for longer...), his father who was a retired priest did the full 40 days though.

[pancakes]

This year I have eaten both double-choc and sticky-date hot cross buns. I resisted at least until march which counts for something? No? Oh well.

[firewalker]

This thread throws me a curve I never expected on the MMM forum. Everyone usually dodges any belief in god and christ like they were poison. Now they're talking fasting and such as if they were god fearin' bible readin' churchgoers. So, do we actually have some non-athiests on MMM?

[scrubbyfish]

This thread throws me a curve I never expected on the MMM forum. Everyone usually dodges any belief in god and christ like they were poison. Now they're talking fasting and such as if they were god fearin' bible readin' churchgoers. So, do we actually have some non-athiests on MMM?

We welcome and have the whole kit and kaboodle of humanity here! :)

There are definitely some non-atheists. And then there are those of us who confuse matters terribly by, for example, "doing Lent" even while not being Christian. (I fasted -in the version of reduced volume and range- two days per week this year while increasing my sharing. For Easter, I'm gathering up excess food in my tiny pantry and giving it to the food bank. Somehow Lent is incredibly meaningful to me despite my lack of religion.)

[scrubbyfish]

I resisted at least until march which counts for something?

It does! ...but only because your name is pancakes.

[Sunnymo]

This year I have eaten both double-choc and sticky-date hot cross buns. I resisted at least until march which counts for something? No? Oh well.

We also resisted until March and the came across date and caramel hot cross buns and I caved.

My husband got home today so we had an Easter dinner of roast chicken with all the trimmings. We then followed up with chocolate chip and chocolate hot cross buns, yummy!

[deborah]

This thread throws me a curve I never expected on the MMM forum. Everyone usually dodges any belief in god and christ like they were poison. Now they're talking fasting and such as if they were god fearin' bible readin' churchgoers. So, do we actually have some non-athiests on MMM?

We welcome and have the whole kit and kaboodle of humanity here! :)

There are definitely some non-atheists. And then there are those of us who confuse matters terribly by, for example, "doing Lent" even while not being Christian. (I fasted -in the version of reduced volume and range- two days per week this year while increasing my sharing. For Easter, I'm gathering up excess food in my tiny pantry and giving it to the food bank. Somehow Lent is incredibly meaningful to me despite my lack of religion.)

The funny thing about this thread is that those who are the most Christian are the ones completely confused by Hot Cross Buns! We seem to be talking about traditions and culture rather than religion.

[shedinator]

In Australia they sometimes have icing on them, but "proper" hot cross buns have dough - they are heated in the oven - after all they are HOT cross buns.

As hot cross buns, Easter eggs and all the other Easter fare of various countries are all made of things you can't eat during Lent, it has to finish before Easter (and of course, the last supper is celebrated on Maundy Thursday, so Lent must finish before that). However, some people say Maundy Thursday (evidently this is the liturgical end of lent), and some say Easter Saturday (so how do we eat HXB)! I'm sure I saw Palm Sunday somewhere as being the end of lent. So all I can say is that Google is confusing on this! Sorry to lead you up the garden path SF!

catholic.org and typing 'lent' into google search says Lent ends on Holy Thursday (i.e. the day before Good Friday). source: http://www.catholic.org/clife/lent/faq.php#end . Whether that means you can eat whatever on the Thursday or not I'm not sure... Palm Sunday is definately too early for the Fasting to finish.
My understanding is that a number of practising Christians don't do the whole 40 days of Lent, but will do at least some of it. For example an ex-workmate who was Greek Orthodox generally did 2 weeks of Lent (he liked his meat too much to do it for longer...), his father who was a retired priest did the full 40 days though.

Great Lent ends with the serving of the Eucharist (Communion) at the Maundy Thursday service. However, Good Friday and Holy Saturday are slated as days of fasting and prayer, so if you're following the liturgical calendar to the letter (which almost nobody does), you don't really get to break your fast until Easter.

[2ndTimer]

Yes, I think this is mustachian! The self-control and delayed gratification are great exercises and will make those hot cross buns all the sweeter.

I try to do this stuff sometimes and my friends think I'm nuts.

Totally agree.  Having treats that are associated a particular season or holiday only then makes the treat and associated event all the sweeter.

[Daley]

This thread throws me a curve I never expected on the MMM forum. Everyone usually dodges any belief in god and christ like they were poison. Now they're talking fasting and such as if they were god fearin' bible readin' churchgoers. So, do we actually have some non-athiests on MMM?

We welcome and have the whole kit and kaboodle of humanity here! :)

There are definitely some non-atheists. And then there are those of us who confuse matters terribly by, for example, "doing Lent" even while not being Christian. (I fasted -in the version of reduced volume and range- two days per week this year while increasing my sharing. For Easter, I'm gathering up excess food in my tiny pantry and giving it to the food bank. Somehow Lent is incredibly meaningful to me despite my lack of religion.)

The funny thing about this thread is that those who are the most Christian are the ones completely confused by Hot Cross Buns! We seem to be talking about traditions and culture rather than religion.

Well, to be truthful and honest to the faith, nothing discussed of the trappings and practices of Easter in this thread have any basis in Biblical scripture, including Easter itself.

Hot cross buns, hams, easter eggs, bunny rabbits, Fat Tuesday, Lent, the whole schmear? (spoilers ahead)

Spoiler: show

These are pagan fertility symbols and practices that go back to ancient Babylon, not Judaism. Look up Tammuz, the Feast of Ishtar and how it all ties into the winter solstice (Yuletime). There's a reason why there's such a great and advantageous perch for non-believers to tear apart the story of Jesus Christ, or Yeshua the Messiah as just another myth built on other myths... nearly all of the modern narrative and practices have nothing to do with scripture and everything to do with whitewashing pagan sun worship practices using His name, all the way down to changing the Sabbath from the seventh day of the week to the first. I won't point fingers on where this came from, but there's a solid reason for the Protestant Reformation, even if we are still in the process of untangling from this stuff after nearly 500 years. Syncretism between G-d's faith and pagan rituals only hinders our spiritual growth as our fervency towards Him gets wasted spinning our wheels by practicing things that do not necessarily please Him.

This isn't said to threadjack. This also isn't said to diminish the importance of His death and resurrection. Nor is it said to try and weaken others faith but to strengthen it, because we should actually know and understand the religious practices that we take part in, and strengthen our faith through cleaving to truth instead of ritual. There is a great deal of meaning for our Messiah's death and resurrection when viewed within the Passover framework (which these events are tied to), and we should celebrate this freedom purchased through the greatest of sacrifices... but Easter and Passover are two separate things. As such, let us inspire one another to cleave to the truth in our walks, nothing more, nothing less. Chag sameach!

[scrubbyfish]

Yep to the origins stuff. (Also, how fun to be able to "scratch and reveal" secret messages on the forum!)

I'm a nut for accuracy, but that's what leads me to "Idon'tknowism" rather than any one focus (religion, etc) that melds various elements into one. I'm also, though, entirely comfortable hanging out with people who are totally at peace with a meld, making stuff from other groups "their own", etc. We can view these adoptions as a crass co-opting, or as a beautiful appreciation for the practices of other groups. (I choose the latter.)

My love of Lent is well-known in my real life, but Easter is all about the bunnies to me, so there will be no church today and at 943am I continue to wait patiently for my kid to wake and find his surprises!

Back to Mustachian hot cross buns...I wonder if I'll find any on the "day old" bakery shelves for cheap...

[teen persuasion]

In Australia they sometimes have icing on them, but "proper" hot cross buns have dough - they are heated in the oven - after all they are HOT cross buns.

As hot cross buns, Easter eggs and all the other Easter fare of various countries are all made of things you can't eat during Lent, it has to finish before Easter (and of course, the last supper is celebrated on Maundy Thursday, so Lent must finish before that). However, some people say Maundy Thursday (evidently this is the liturgical end of lent), and some say Easter Saturday (so how do we eat HXB)! I'm sure I saw Palm Sunday somewhere as being the end of lent. So all I can say is that Google is confusing on this! Sorry to lead you up the garden path SF!

catholic.org and typing 'lent' into google search says Lent ends on Holy Thursday (i.e. the day before Good Friday). source: http://www.catholic.org/clife/lent/faq.php#end . Whether that means you can eat whatever on the Thursday or not I'm not sure... Palm Sunday is definately too early for the Fasting to finish.
My understanding is that a number of practising Christians don't do the whole 40 days of Lent, but will do at least some of it. For example an ex-workmate who was Greek Orthodox generally did 2 weeks of Lent (he liked his meat too much to do it for longer...), his father who was a retired priest did the full 40 days though.

Great Lent ends with the serving of the Eucharist (Communion) at the Maundy Thursday service. However, Good Friday and Holy Saturday are slated as days of fasting and prayer, so if you're following the liturgical calendar to the letter (which almost nobody does), you don't really get to break your fast until Easter.

Lent ends on Easter Sunday!

I remember our parish priest mentioning that we should all consider carefully what we planned to DO  for the 40 days of Lent, and suggested that we think in terms of actively DOING something positive, rather than the negative "giving something up for Lent".  I liked that idea.  He left the giving something up option out there (for the less imaginative), and just as an aside reminded us that Sundays are never part of Lent (in case you couldn't keep it up for 40 straight days).  I'd never heard this before, so of course I had to see for myself.  If you include Sundays, there are over 6 weeks in Lent, or well more than 40 days, but if you exclude Sundays, tada! 40 days exactly.

Edited to fix grammatical errors - darn autocorrect adding apostrophes where they don't belong.

[deborah]

Just goes to show what I meant about Google not offering a definitive answer about when Lent ends!