Author Topic: Interesting experience , removing "Ghost" Wells-Fargo brokerage account.  (Read 3059 times)

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I have one remaining Wells checking account, and look forward to moving it out of there. The hold up is that we are currently nomads living in our Motorhome, and won't be settling into a permanent nw address until spring. Consequently, I was doing an online change of address to divert my mail from the home we sold a few weeks back. As I completed the transaction, I was prompted to acknowledge the TWO accounts in my name, one of which was a brokerage account that I closed in 2010. Given all the account scam activity that has come to light recently, I though this was interesting, and wondered if the account was kept "alive" without any money in it, so that my old "investment advisor" or his department, could count it in their performance ratings?

This is where it got interesting. Customer service could acknowledge that the account was still active, but had a zero balance. They couldn't touch it, and that was the first of several employees who used the language of "removing the account from my online screen". which IMHO, is a bit different than closing the account. I then went through several transfers to different departments, and finally to the brokerage department. At that point I could hear the rep. as she was mumbling about being locked out, and unable to delete it. Eventually, she agreed to research the situation and call me back,  once she succeeded. When she returned the call, she  told me that she had "removed it from my screen" which I responded to by asking her to confirm that the account is closed, and not simply removed from my view. She then confirmed that the account no longer existed.

The whole situation was interesting, convoluted, and really kind of pathetic.  Four employees, and a return call, to get them to remove a dead account that should of been removed years ago.

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Re: Interesting experience , removing "Ghost" Wells-Fargo brokerage account.
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2016, 02:30:44 AM »
How odd.

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Re: Interesting experience , removing "Ghost" Wells-Fargo brokerage account.
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2016, 05:53:06 AM »
That is very strange.  I was in Wells Fargo yesterday for the same reason.  I never like doing that sort of thing over the phone because I want to know the person's name doing the transaction and know where to find them if something doesn't go right. 

Over the years, I had been convinced to open something like 8 different WF accounts, all of which I agreed to open...no "ghost" accounts.  I would go in to open one, and always walk out with two.  That's how they would get me.  "Open this account too because you get XYZ benefit."  In reviewing everything with the banker, I realized that I have paid over $100 in low balance fees in the last 10 months.  Shame on me.  I have been going through a home renovation and just have too many accounts and have simply not been paying attention.

I was impressed in the level of service I received yesterday and can see they are trying to do a better job at taking care of their customers, BUT, they still have too many fees, which is why I closed out several of the accounts.  Not quite ready to break ties completely, mostly because it is too much work to move everything over to another bank.  Any other big bank is probably going to have the same stupid rules.

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Re: Interesting experience , removing "Ghost" Wells-Fargo brokerage account.
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2016, 09:53:32 AM »
Everything I've been reading about Wells Fargo has me wondering why anyone would trust them with anything at all, ever.

Obligatory credit union recommendation. I've been with a credit union (in Canada) for almost 20 years now.  I pay very few fees for all that we do there ($7/month).  Low interest mortgage.  No ATM fees.  And I've received just under $1000 in 'dividends' which are put back into my shares of the credit union.  All of their profits go back to members and/or get invested in our local community in the form of grants for charities and other non-profits.

Admittedly Canada is a different banking system (more tightly regulated, for starters) and the credit unions work differently here.  But given the recent massive, criminal fraud that has come to light at Wells Fargo, I'd personally be getting my cash away from their greedy, crooked hands as quick as possible.  They were defrauding their customers.

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Re: Interesting experience , removing "Ghost" Wells-Fargo brokerage account.
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2016, 10:31:41 AM »
Everything I've been reading about Wells Fargo has me wondering why anyone would trust them with anything at all, ever.

Obligatory credit union recommendation. I've been with a credit union (in Canada) for almost 20 years now.  I pay very few fees for all that we do there ($7/month).  Low interest mortgage.  No ATM fees.  And I've received just under $1000 in 'dividends' which are put back into my shares of the credit union.  All of their profits go back to members and/or get invested in our local community in the form of grants for charities and other non-profits.

Admittedly Canada is a different banking system (more tightly regulated, for starters) and the credit unions work differently here.  But given the recent massive, criminal fraud that has come to light at Wells Fargo, I'd personally be getting my cash away from their greedy, crooked hands as quick as possible.  They were defrauding their customers.
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Re: Interesting experience , removing "Ghost" Wells-Fargo brokerage account.
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2016, 12:19:04 PM »
I worked for a brokerage firm that 'closed' accounts, but never deleted them.  There were three (3x) levels of 'closed'-ness (my term).
1) No longer active, still user visible via on-line login.
2) No longer active, and hidden from user view on-line.
3) No longer active, closed, and hidden from user view.

This may be part of what the Wells Fargo people are up against.  The bank wants to keep the records around to maintain cost-basis, etc related to trades in the account in case at some future point you need that cost basis (in case of audit, etc).  However, if your account has been active with no trading activity for 5+ years, they should be able to 'close' the account without worry.  The bank/brokerage is required to maintain records of accounts, so they generally will not 'delete' a brokerage account.

IMHO, I suspect this is what happened off-line with the brokerage folks you talked to.

 

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