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I need a home phone solution
« on: March 13, 2016, 04:02:00 PM »
I have an 11 year old daughter, and I think she is old enough to start being able to spend short amounts of time home alone. We tried it out this weekend and left her home by herself for an hour, and everything was fine. Because we don't have a home phone line, we left her with an email window open and addressed, ready to send an email to my wife should she need to contact us. She felt comfortable with this, and of course nothing happened.

However, her mother (not my wife) was not comfortable with this and doesn't like the idea of her being left home alone without a phone. I don't think her concern is unreasonable, and am wondering what the cheapest way is to provide my daughter with the ability to make phone calls. In all likelihood, she will very rarely  need to make a call, so I don't mind paying more per minute if I can play less per month. I'm thinking a VoIP line or a cheap cell phone plan would work fine. Or maybe there is some sort of app that she could run from a tablet or computer to make outgoing calls?

TL;DR:
What's the cheapest per month way to be able to make outgoing phone calls?

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Re: I need a home phone solution
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2016, 04:11:56 PM »
Skype will make calls to phones in country for $30 a year, but it won't do emergency 911 calls. An old cell phone with no service anymore will, though, so perhaps a combination of the two so she could call parents or 911 if needed?

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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2016, 04:27:07 PM »
OOMA  is $4.15 a month after you get the equipment.
http://www.ooma.com/basic/

 I have a friend that has OOMA, he likes it and I can't tell any difference when I talk to him.

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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2016, 05:38:42 PM »
Have you tried reading the guide (unabridged) yet?

VOIP.ms would be an excellent option paired with a cheap used Obihai ATA (like the Obi110 - higher quality) or even cheaper Grandstream HT701, providing both e911 support and reasonably cheap rates inbound and outbound billed at six second increments. Not the cheapest you can find per minute (compared to providers who don't offer e911) or compared to bundled rates from other outfits offering "unlimited" style service with massive asterisks and even more massive walls of fine print, but plenty cheap and covers all you'll need wit all the useful settings you could ever want for low use at a price far less than the alternatives, including Ooma, which is a ripoff if you just run the numbers compared to the alternatives from the guide. Speaking of...

OOMA  is $4.15 a month after you get the equipment.
http://www.ooma.com/basic/

 I have a friend that has OOMA, he likes it and I can't tell any difference when I talk to him.

Ooma’s actually a bit of a racket as their “unlimited” free phone service still costs about $3-5 a month for the phone number, e911 support and regulatory fees, their “unlimited” comes with fine print as well, and their hardware is proprietary and starts at $200. Unfortunately, the Ooma hardware also has a bit of a track record of dying due to shoddy electronics components just outside the warranty period (around the 18 month mark, likely cheap capacitors – as is the bane of all electronics these days) and the issues with customer support themselves. You also have the same limitations on flexibility with the service as you do with MagicJack, and all of the useful VoIP features that get given away with other providers (Canada included in call area, Caller ID name, call forwarding during outages, anonymous call block, voicemail to email, call routing rules, etc.) winds up costing more per month to add to the Ooma account than competitors charge in total for an equal number of “unlimited” minutes with all the same features and without the overpriced proprietary hardware buy-in.

If you’re still interested in MagicJack and Ooma despite the caveats already cited, read these posts on the math. It’s not pretty. If you insist on going with an ultra-cheap, proprietary service, go with netTALK instead. It’s forum user approved within limitations.

There's plenty better for the money, especially when you get into equipment costs. That's why the guide is there, to help keep people from making ignorant, costly mistakes because they don't know what alternatives there really are.

Back on target, though... if your ex is being this paranoid, she's probably going to make a stink about having 911 access available as well even if it hasn't been said as such. Thus the recommendation for VOIP.ms.

If you can skate without e911, however, there's an even cheaper option available that isn't dependent solely upon smartphone apps or desktop computers to use like Skype is, but still has the option to do so if you feel inclined. Localphone is about the second cheapest you can get easy configure PAYGO with rates at 0.5¢/minute and prepaid monthly calling packages starting at 75¢/month for 250 outbound minutes driving the per minute rate lower, and incoming numbers with unlimited inbound minutes for 99¢/month. Just pair it with the same used Obi110 (or HT701) and old landline phone you have sitting in a closet somewhere that I recommended for VOIP.ms. It's not hard to set up.

I would not recommend using Google Voice for a plethora of reasons, starting with their datamining policies, their terms of service, and the age of your daughter. Don't bother with Republic, either. Terrible customer service, terrible call quality, overpriced phones, draconian terms of service, and overpriced phone service for what's being offered. You're literally better off using Google Voice if Republic actually looks attractive to you.

Just... don't be afraid to pay for what you need. Do that, and you'll be fine... and you seriously should be able to put something together for $3 or less a month, e911 included, with no more than about $40 in equipment costs, and possibly as little as $20 if you go with a dedicated "phone" setup.
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Re: I need a home phone solution
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2016, 07:58:52 PM »
I use Ooma as well.  Under $5 a month, using normal landline phones.  We have a 4 handset wireless set. 

I think the Ooma box has come down to under $100, which pays for itself quickly compared to landline service.  Of course, being a VOIP, if the internet or power is out, so is the phone. 

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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2016, 08:06:08 PM »
We use OOMA for the same reason.  We have a son that stays home for short periods of time but I wasn't comfortable with him not being able to call 911 if needed.

We pay $4.40 month which is taxes and fees.  We ported our home number over.  That will cost $40 but worth it.

We were paying $27 a month for the landline with our cable company.   OOMA call quality is high and we save money too. 

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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2016, 11:00:25 PM »
I would get her a cell phone. If she is 11 she will be asking for one real soon anyways...

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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2016, 06:45:48 AM »
I ordered my daughter a republic wireless cell phone. Plans are pretty cheap and it gives me the flexibility to have her take it when she goes to friends houses.  More expensive than the other options discussed but it works well for us.

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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2016, 07:31:40 AM »
Love our OOMA. Works just like a regular home phone which is nice for not only the kids but babysitters and grandparents who come and stay with the kids. We've had it about 2 years and it's worked great.

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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2016, 08:22:40 AM »
All you Ooma lovers... Again, I repeat, you may "love" your Ooma, but you're getting ripped off. Ooma is the Republic Wireless of "landline" service.  It may look like a great deal at first when compared to alternatives like Vonage or a traditional land line, but they're overpriced and underfeatured for the prices they make you pay compared to the alternatives out there. Look at the features, factor the hardware buy-in, factor the other nickel and dime costs they sock you with, and compare it with others like PhonePower and VOIPo. DO THE MATH. Numbers don't lie, Ooma isn't as cheap as you think. At best, they're only a break-even after three to four years with some of the more expensive alternatives, and that's only assuming that the proprietary hardware actually lasts that long and you're willing to give up incredibly useful VoIP features like call forwarding during outages and caller ID filtering to help block the robocallers.

Speaking of Republic Wireless, Republic has minimum age requirements on their terms of service as well - users need to be 18 to agree to their heinous terms of service. If anyone is going to eschew common sense, ignore quality alternatives, break terms of service, and chase after the cheapest solution possible, you'd literally be better served with Google Voice, get just as good phone service, and pay nothing for it (especially if you're getting it to act as a VoIP only provider with no mobile roaming). Republic fails miserably as a reliable mobile service, and they're overpriced for a VoIP only service. Worst of both worlds. Don't believe me? Scrape the forums, read the Yelp reviews (especially the hidden reviews), check Howard Forum. There's plenty of ex-Republic users who regret taking the plunge, more than any other MVNO combined (including the other ones I don't recommend) just on these forums alone. The support is awful, the equipment overpriced and proprietary, the terms of service draconian, the service is flaky, and most people who state otherwise are naive to the alternatives and/or still in the honeymoon phase and will frequently acknowledge but downplay the very problems the service has despite the very real, deal-breaking problems they cause. I'm telling you, sometimes it's a really bad idea to listen to herd advice. Herd advice is going to offer solutions like Ooma and Republic. There's better out there for the money, I've helped prove that time and again around these forums for years. I want to see you get the most frugal and flexible solution from a provider who won't try to actively screw you long term or exploit your inability to do basic math. Nothing more, nothing less.

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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2016, 09:03:12 AM »
If you have old AT&T cellphone, H20 is very good and very cheap option - comes out at ~$3 per month for prepaid, 0.05 cents per text or minute. You buy $10 card and it lasts three month or until you use up all the money. If for emergencies this should always last for 3 month. If you have old T-Mobile phone you can get their $3 a month service - that is 0.10 cents per text or minute. Nothing can beat portability of cellphone - you can leave it with her when she is home or she can take it when she goes to the park or friends house. You can also buy old nokia dumb phone for next to nothing and it will last a week on a charge and no need to worry about internet and etc ...

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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2016, 02:36:51 PM »
All you Ooma lovers... Again, I repeat, you may "love" your Ooma, but you're getting ripped off. Ooma is the Republic Wireless of "landline" service.  It may look like a great deal at first when compared to alternatives like Vonage or a traditional land line, but they're overpriced and underfeatured for the prices they make you pay compared to the alternatives out there. Look at the features, factor the hardware buy-in, factor the other nickel and dime costs they sock you with, and compare it with others like PhonePower and VOIPo. DO THE MATH. Numbers don't lie, Ooma isn't as cheap as you think. At best, they're only a break-even after three to four years with some of the more expensive alternatives, and that's only assuming that the proprietary hardware actually lasts that long and you're willing to give up incredibly useful VoIP features like call forwarding during outages and caller ID filtering to help block the robocallers.

Speaking of Republic Wireless, Republic has minimum age requirements on their terms of service as well - users need to be 18 to agree to their heinous terms of service. If anyone is going to eschew common sense, ignore quality alternatives, break terms of service, and chase after the cheapest solution possible, you'd literally be better served with Google Voice, get just as good phone service, and pay nothing for it (especially if you're getting it to act as a VoIP only provider with no mobile roaming). Republic fails miserably as a reliable mobile service, and they're overpriced for a VoIP only service. Worst of both worlds. Don't believe me? Scrape the forums, read the Yelp reviews (especially the hidden reviews), check Howard Forum. There's plenty of ex-Republic users who regret taking the plunge, more than any other MVNO combined (including the other ones I don't recommend) just on these forums alone. The support is awful, the equipment overpriced and proprietary, the terms of service draconian, the service is flaky, and most people who state otherwise are naive to the alternatives and/or still in the honeymoon phase and will frequently acknowledge but downplay the very problems the service has despite the very real, deal-breaking problems they cause. I'm telling you, sometimes it's a really bad idea to listen to herd advice. Herd advice is going to offer solutions like Ooma and Republic. There's better out there for the money, I've helped prove that time and again around these forums for years. I want to see you get the most frugal and flexible solution from a provider who won't try to actively screw you long term or exploit your inability to do basic math. Nothing more, nothing less.

The wife insists on a landline phone so we have used Ooma for the past 4 years.  The box was $120 and the monthly bill is $4 -$5 a month.  Plain and simple, it works reliably and the call quality is excellent.  I'm not sure what "hidden fees" you are referring to.  I'm all about saving cash but at $5 a month not having to think about how many minutes we're using is worth it. 

My wife uses Republic Wireless for her cell phone.  The bill is consistently $13 after taxes for unlimited talk/text.  Never had an issue with cell service however we do live in a major metropolitan so that may help.   Republic's customer service is not great but unless you're constantly swapping phone numbers you don't need to contact them.  My wife broke the screen on her MotoG, I ordered a replacement on ebay and she was up and running with the the replacement phone in about 20 minutes (two thumbs up for the Motorola Migrate app :)

IMHO paying $5 for unlimited landline phone and $13 for unlimited talk/text on a cell phone is a good deal and it's not worth my time trying to lower the cost any further. 

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Re: I need a home phone solution
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2016, 03:31:57 PM »
blah blah blah I can't actually do the math.

You've spent at least $7/month when factoring equipment costs for Ooma over the past four years, and that's assuming you didn't port in a phone number, and if you did it goes up to nearly $8/month aggregated after FOUR YEARS. VOIPo for four years would have cost you $7.71 a month, and you would have had all the additional useful features that Ooma charges an extra $10/month for free, plus a whole slew of additional features that Ooma doesn't even offer, plus cheaper international rates if needed. You also would have had free number porting available and a free ATA. What happens when the Ooma hardware dies? That's going to jack your monthly costs up further replacing it to stay put.

As for your Republic experiences, again... exactly how much have you spent on hardware and how long have you had the service? Have you factored that with your $13/month costs? Doubt it. Have you bothered running the numbers against the alternatives that didn't involve you buying a proprietary handset likely replacing a perfectly good one you already had? Probably not. Have you actually factored the aggregated replacement handset cost to replace a fragile, garbage handset that wasn't sturdy enough to last in the first place? Clearly not.

Thanks for proving my point that Ooma and Republic are a ripoff and aren't worth selecting when you know the alternatives in advance before investing.

There's better options out there for the money. Full stop.
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2016, 05:45:50 PM »
Thanks for proving my point that Ooma and Republic are a ripoff and aren't worth selecting when you know the alternatives in advance before investing.

There's better options out there for the money. Full stop.

I'm not the one you were replying to, but just because there are potentially better alternatives doesn't mean that suggesting what you're currently using and happy with is wrong either.  For some background - I'm an IT professional that has been working in IT for 10 years.  I have experience with a variety of PBX's, have setup my own Asterisk and FreePBX systems and have experience with a large variety of VoIP providers and SIP Trunks.  I have used the Obihai devices both with Google Voice and as extensions in FreePBX with analog phones.  When my parents were looking to cut costs I pointed them to Ooma.  It's sold in normal stores and is a main stream device with a company phone number you can call.  There are definitely better providers and cheaper providers, but for some people the cost savings and ease of use is worth it.  The call quality has been excellent and they really like the service.  This saved them a significant amount of money compared to paying the local phone company every month for service.

As for Republic Wireless, I use that myself.  I have a company provided smart phone, so for my personal phone calls and texts were my main priorities since I can use data on the company phone.  I don't have anything negative to say about the coverage or voice quality. I've never had to contact customer support for anything so I can't speak to that.  I've had two issues; one is that texts have often arrived out of order.  I think this has been corrected(or I've just gotten better at figuring out the out of order text messages). The other is that if I'm on Wi-Fi when I get a call it often delays showing the call for maybe 15 seconds, so I have a short window to answer the call before it goes to voicemail.  Neither have been a large issue for me, and while I understand there may be other providers that are cheaper or have better service(or both), I have been generally happy with Republic Wireless so I would feel comfortable recommending them to somebody else given the caveats. I have the Moto E and it seems fine for a basic phone.  The fact that it uses Wi-Fi when possible was also nice when I was out of the country as I could make calls and send text messages whenever Wi-Fi was available.

I'm not disagreeing with you that there may be better providers, but I did the math before I did anything and have been generally happy with the results.  Please keep in mind not everybody is very technically inclined, and sometimes a main stream device / service that can be purchased at a local store and has a support phone number is all the difference.  I didn't have an existing device, so spending the money for a proprietary Republic Wireless phone wasn't an issue for me.  There are diminishing returns when you try to optimize something too far and spend more time researching it than necessary.

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Re: I need a home phone solution
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2016, 08:04:32 PM »
Other than the cost of a good headset six or seven years ago, Skype only costs me something like $0.02 a minute and no monthly minimum.

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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2016, 08:34:50 PM »
I'm not disagreeing with you that there may be better providers, but I did the math before I did anything and have been generally happy with the results.  Please keep in mind not everybody is very technically inclined, and sometimes a main stream device / service that can be purchased at a local store and has a support phone number is all the difference.  I didn't have an existing device, so spending the money for a proprietary Republic Wireless phone wasn't an issue for me.  There are diminishing returns when you try to optimize something too far and spend more time researching it than necessary.

VOIPo? Support phone number and a preconfigured ATA. It's friggin plug and play. How is that magically more complex than Ooma? It's also cheaper for the first four years despite being nearly twice the monthly price! I can pretty much say the same thing about PhonePower, only you can also buy the ATAs at Amazon and Fry's instead of ordering directly!

VOIP.ms, however? Yeah, you have to fill out a half dozen fields on an ATA, but they have excellent documentation and a literate monkey can do it. When you're only looking to spend maybe $20 in hardware and maybe $2-3 a month (or likely far less), it's worth taking the extra few minutes to configure a device.

Also, again, thanks for proving my point with the Republic problems and how users turn a blind eye to problems that no other mobile carrier has because *hand wave*. By the way, nice hypocrisy. "sometimes a main stream device / service that can be purchased at a local store and has a support phone number is all the difference" so let's defend Republic who has neither, eh!?

I've done IT for a lot longer than you have and have specialized in the very things I speak of for nearly as long as you've been in IT. I know there's no magic one size solution, and the ones most frequently touted as such are often the worst of the lot. The point of the guide and my ongoing efforts to actually help people with solutions best fit to their needs is to help get them to the best, highest quality solutions without them having to do the research themselves. I also teach them a few basics so they can fend for themselves. I've done it for years. This is about helping people get the best options from the get go and not making poor decisions to go with sub-par providers before they spend penny one.

I'm not here to make people switch away from Ooma and Republic. You already made those mistakes, I'd rather see you ride out the service until equipment failure, bankruptcy, or frustration beyond the point of no return. It doesn't change reality, however. They're poor choices, and they shouldn't be recommended to others when there are superior options available with near, at or lower pricing. I can and have proven this with hard data time and again in this community, especially in regards to Ooma and Republic. Stop confusing your apparent (collective) need to defend your past poor choices when you're being called out for trying to perpetuate your poor choices with other people by recommending them as a superior option.



Other than the cost of a good headset six or seven years ago, Skype only costs me something like $0.02 a minute and no monthly minimum.

Again, Localphone. One QUARTER the price per minute, no monthly minimum, just as easy to use. Larger device freedom, preconfigured software, and yet still no proprietary software lock-in.
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2016, 04:22:13 PM »
Also, again, thanks for proving my point with the Republic problems and how users turn a blind eye to problems that no other mobile carrier has because *hand wave*. By the way, nice hypocrisy. "sometimes a main stream device / service that can be purchased at a local store and has a support phone number is all the difference" so let's defend Republic who has neither, eh!?

I've done IT for a lot longer than you have and have specialized in the very things I speak of for nearly as long as you've been in IT. I know there's no magic one size solution, and the ones most frequently touted as such are often the worst of the lot. The point of the guide and my ongoing efforts to actually help people with solutions best fit to their needs is to help get them to the best, highest quality solutions without them having to do the research themselves. I also teach them a few basics so they can fend for themselves. I've done it for years. This is about helping people get the best options from the get go and not making poor decisions to go with sub-par providers before they spend penny one.

I'm not here to make people switch away from Ooma and Republic. You already made those mistakes, I'd rather see you ride out the service until equipment failure, bankruptcy, or frustration beyond the point of no return. It doesn't change reality, however. They're poor choices, and they shouldn't be recommended to others when there are superior options available with near, at or lower pricing. I can and have proven this with hard data time and again in this community, especially in regards to Ooma and Republic. Stop confusing your apparent (collective) need to defend your past poor choices when you're being called out for trying to perpetuate your poor choices with other people by recommending them as a superior option.

I honestly feel like you didn't even read my post as much as just assume it was the same post you've defended against a million times.  My background was not a dick measuring contest regarding our IT knowledge it was simply a background so you could see where I'm coming from.  But for a quick TLDR - I consider myself very tech savvy, and have been relatively happy with Republic despite the issues I've had.  I recommended Ooma to my parents who are less tech savvy and might not be trusting of some online SIP trunk or whatever.

I specifically spelled out the issues I've had with Republic.  I didn't even recommend Republic or Ooma to anybody here but simply expressed that I would be comfortable recommending Republic as long as the person understood the caveats.  I'm not going to spend a ton of time(time is money..) trying to get my bill lower than $12/month, just so I can have personal experience with another service to recommend to people I meet in person.  As you can tell by my post count, my recommendation is more in a situation like meeting somebody in person complaining about their $100/month Verizon bill and me saying "ya know, I have a few issues and my phone's kind of crappy but I pay ~$10 a month".. how anybody on MMM could make this into a major disagreement blows my mind.

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Re: I need a home phone solution
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2016, 08:28:17 PM »
Ooma all the way, especially in this situation. If your house has landline wiring already, then all phones will be live with one connection. No worrying about a misplaced cell or battery condition in an emergency. Additionally, the monthly fee includes 911 location services to your address.

Occasionally they'll run a special on the hardware, either a discount or free equipment (such as a WiFi dongle so no network cables are needed). We also went for the premium plan which will ring the house phones when my cell is called (a G3 handset is much more to my liking than a cell), and provides an additional line and other features.

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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2016, 11:47:48 PM »
how anybody on MMM could make this into a major disagreement blows my mind.

The philosophy that had been present on these boards were frugality weighed with trying to make the world a better place and reducing waste, and that message has been lost. There's supposed to be a conscience, and a point of quality. Not just consuming the cheapest crap available, damn the bigger picture. Republic and Ooma are wasteful consumption machines coupled with deceptive advertising and bad math marketing that exploits the sunk cost fallacy. Giving companies that actively exploit their end users in this manner preferential treatment over more decent, honest, and reputable companies does not make the world a better place. Nor is making recommendations that require sacrificing reliability a wise path. Doing so only serves to speed up our race to the absolute bottom. The Pope could endorse these companies for all I care, but it doesn't change what they represent, and what these companies unfortunately represent reflects poorly on those who do endorse them and are contrary to the expressed philosophies posted over the front door.

You claim I didn't read your posts. Maybe you and others need to consider reading more yourselves instead of being so quick to post, no matter how eager you are to help. The whole purpose of asking for advice is to seek after the best solution. If a better solution than what you have to offer is presented, try learning from it instead of doubling down on your past decisions, defending your choices and recommendations, and insisting others copy you. Insisting on talking about how awesome your cheap lead sledgehammer is in a thread asking for a good carpenter's hammer doesn't help the person asking or the people actually trying to suggest options. It's just noise, and that's a disservice to the community.



AntiochOG, I'm sorry that your thread has turned out the way it has. I hope you actually find what I and a couple others posted useful, and if you care to ask any further questions, feel free to PM me. I'll be happy to help where I can.
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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2016, 06:23:15 AM »
Just got a line with line2.com to separate work from personal. I just do the call forwarding but using the same thing on my kid's ipad they would have a fully functional phone that only works when connected to wifi; also work from computers if you don't have an ipod or tablet.

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Re: I need a home phone solution
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2016, 06:27:28 AM »
Use an old smartphone, get a free google number and as long as you are connected to wifi, you have a free number that can be used to call out or called to for no cost. I used this with both my kids for several years. They could do everything with the phone that I could with mine as long as they were connected to wifi. No service fees, no cost at all.

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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2016, 07:57:25 PM »
Use an old smartphone, get a free google number and as long as you are connected to wifi, you have a free number that can be used to call out or called to for no cost. I used this with both my kids for several years. They could do everything with the phone that I could with mine as long as they were connected to wifi. No service fees, no cost at all.

+1 - was just going to post this

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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2016, 08:27:35 PM »
how anybody on MMM could make this into a major disagreement blows my mind.
AntiochOG, I'm sorry that your thread has turned out the way it has. I hope you actually find what I and a couple others posted useful, and if you care to ask any further questions, feel free to PM me. I'll be happy to help where I can.

It's alright. I appreciate the help, and I have gotten quite a few ideas for low cost solutions.

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Re: I need a home phone solution
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2016, 08:44:21 PM »
I'll second Ooma.  It's the cheapest service out there.  I actually just cancelled it because I didn't use it much, but the service was fine.

In fact, mine's for sale.  I have the one with the bluetooth adapter.  I'll sell it for $25+ shipping (retails $120).  PM me if you're interested.

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Re: I need a home phone solution
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2016, 01:27:36 PM »
I'm not here to make people switch away from Ooma and Republic. You already made those mistakes, I'd rather see you ride out the service until equipment failure, bankruptcy, or frustration beyond the point of no return. It doesn't change reality, however. They're poor choices, and they shouldn't be recommended to others when there are superior options available with near, at or lower pricing. I can and have proven this with hard data time and again in this community, especially in regards to Ooma and Republic. Stop confusing your apparent (collective) need to defend your past poor choices when you're being called out for trying to perpetuate your poor choices with other people by recommending them as a superior option.

With an attitude like this, it's no wonder you can't get people to see your way.