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Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« on: July 17, 2020, 06:50:20 PM »

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2020, 07:03:32 PM »
That is sad. At least the corolla and Prius are still being made.

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2020, 07:10:34 PM »
This makes me sad even though I just replaced my Civic with an insight instead of a fit. I always thought I'd buy a fit someday!

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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2020, 07:47:52 PM »
The toyota yaris has also been discontinued in North America after 2020.    That was a very reliable and cost-effective little car.

Everybody wants to buy a giant vehicle instead.    The cognitive dissonance between what people want and want they can afford makes my head hurt.     Same thing for climate change.

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2020, 07:55:15 PM »
I am always sad when another small car disappears from the market, especially the hatchbacks which are so much better for loading than the sedans.

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2020, 08:01:41 PM »
The popularity of the hausefraupanzerwagen strikes again!

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2020, 08:57:53 PM »
no!!!!!!

At least my Fit is good for a long time. No one cream it for me, ok?

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2020, 11:05:22 PM »
Kia Soul is similarly priced...much better looking...much better warranty. Slightly worse gas mileage though.

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2020, 05:43:51 AM »
Kia Soul is similarly priced...much better looking...much better warranty. Slightly worse gas mileage though.

Not to totally derail this thread but the Soul is extremely ugly and I would never buy one because looking at it makes me sad.

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2020, 07:24:41 AM »
Kia Soul is similarly priced...much better looking...much better warranty. Slightly worse gas mileage though.

Not to totally derail this thread but the Soul is extremely ugly and I would never buy one because looking at it makes me sad.

I guess I wouldn’t call any compact car “good looking”, but at least the Soul has...some redeeming factor if only because it actually tries. The Fit and most other compact cars are the most depressing segment in the car market in terms of looks. I’ll concede that the Soul is probably a “love it, hate it, or at least they’re trying” sort of reaction but it outsold the Fit last year about 3 to 1.

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2020, 07:36:32 AM »
What the heck are you all sad about? Almost no one should be buying one new and you have at least 5-9 years of being able to buy finely depreciated used examples!

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2020, 07:40:44 AM »
Kia Soul is similarly priced...much better looking...much better warranty. Slightly worse gas mileage though.

Not to totally derail this thread but the Soul is extremely ugly and I would never buy one because looking at it makes me sad.

I guess I wouldn’t call any compact car “good looking”, but at least the Soul has...some redeeming factor if only because it actually tries. The Fit and most other compact cars are the most depressing segment in the car market in terms of looks. I’ll concede that the Soul is probably a “love it, hate it, or at least they’re trying” sort of reaction but it outsold the Fit last year about 3 to 1.

Have you seen the new Fit? This is the one we aren't getting (pictures attached).

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2020, 07:43:52 AM »
What the heck are you all sad about? Almost no one should be buying one new and you have at least 5-9 years of being able to buy finely depreciated used examples!

Yeah, and by the time I’m ready to replace my 8-year-old Prius C (also discontinued), the used market will be glutted with suburbitanks and I won’t be able to get another little hatchback (the Prius C, bought used, replaced my 13-year-old Focus ZX3).

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2020, 07:47:20 AM »
What the heck are you all sad about? Almost no one should be buying one new and you have at least 5-9 years of being able to buy finely depreciated used examples!

Some of us are long term planners!

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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2020, 07:47:54 AM »
What the heck are you all sad about? Almost no one should be buying one new and you have at least 5-9 years of being able to buy finely depreciated used examples!
There are definitely things to be sad about. Future Mustachians 10 years from now will have less selection for practical efficient vehicles. It indicates a fall in demand for efficient vehicles. Honda went through the trouble to design a brand new Fit and decided we weren't worthy of it. Its discontinuation means one less vehicle I can recommend to less Mustachian people that insist on a new vehicle.

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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2020, 09:47:48 AM »
This really sucks.  Everyone I know with one loves it.  I have a 2010 Hyundai Accent (similar size) and it's really the perfect little car for the 99% of the time you don't need more space.  When I bought it, a coworker was checking it out and seemed to surprised to say "It looks like it could fit groceries in it without a problem!"  Yeah, no shit.

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2020, 10:04:44 AM »
This really sucks.  Everyone I know with one loves it.  I have a 2010 Hyundai Accent (similar size) and it's really the perfect little car for the 99% of the time you don't need more space.  When I bought it, a coworker was checking it out and seemed to surprised to say "It looks like it could fit groceries in it without a problem!"  Yeah, no shit.

Bwaaahaaa. I have had many occasions to buy groceries for very large groups, and they always fit in my sub compact cars! I did own a Cavalier for several years, I think that was merely compact..

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2020, 10:11:34 AM »
This really sucks.  Everyone I know with one loves it.  I have a 2010 Hyundai Accent (similar size) and it's really the perfect little car for the 99% of the time you don't need more space.  When I bought it, a coworker was checking it out and seemed to surprised to say "It looks like it could fit groceries in it without a problem!"  Yeah, no shit.

Bwaaahaaa. I have had many occasions to buy groceries for very large groups, and they always fit in my sub compact cars! I did own a Cavalier for several years, I think that was merely compact..

Yep. Never had a problem with my tiny cars and big Costco shops. If needed, I could fit my bike in the back of my Prius C if I put down the rear seats.

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2020, 10:25:02 AM »
The popularity of the hausefraupanzerwagen strikes again!

No need ot be uber German, Hausfrauenpanzer is all you need ;)

That is a real pity for you guys on the other side of the big water!
Mabe by the time the market goes scarce you may be able to buy a real mustachian car. Something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li33TrYeziA
(A lot better in the winter when it's cold and slippery)
Or maybe get inspired by this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eRdsUCAwis
and start making things yourself?

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2020, 12:08:43 PM »
We already have pedal electric hybrids.     The battery's in the part of the frame labelled recon:



You'll notice the SUV motif has moved into electric bicycles!     In the winter you can use studded tires...

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2020, 04:02:57 PM »
Very sad. The excesses of our ever-growing vehicles feels like witnessing a slow motion tragedy.

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« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2020, 04:32:39 PM »
DW asked me today what we'd get if our fit got totaled (2k9, so pretty much any real damage would do it. We lucked out with the hail last weekend not doing serious damage). I said I didn't know. Maybe a used fit?

I don't know that I think the HR-V is a great replacement for it. Mostly I hope someone will get a 300+ mile small (fit-sized) EV by then. The Bolt would be great with another 60-100 miles on its range... Its very similar in size...

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2020, 07:00:18 PM »
Kia Soul is similarly priced...much better looking...much better warranty. Slightly worse gas mileage though.

Not to totally derail this thread but the Soul is extremely ugly and I would never buy one because looking at it makes me sad.

I guess I wouldn’t call any compact car “good looking”, but at least the Soul has...some redeeming factor if only because it actually tries. The Fit and most other compact cars are the most depressing segment in the car market in terms of looks. I’ll concede that the Soul is probably a “love it, hate it, or at least they’re trying” sort of reaction but it outsold the Fit last year about 3 to 1.

Have you seen the new Fit? This is the one we aren't getting (pictures attached).

I like the new look. It really is too bad it’s getting discontinued.

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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2020, 07:08:29 PM »
Americans are not fit enough to squeeze into a Fit.

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« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2020, 07:13:27 PM »
So sad! It was my first car and I really loved it. I especially like how good the visibility is. A lot of the alternative hatchbacks that people recommend seem to be shorter and have smaller windows, which makes me sad.

I was thinking I'd buy another one next time we needed to own a car. Well, I could always get a used one, at least for the next few years...

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« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2020, 11:35:58 PM »
Rumours are that it'll be dropped here too...

https://www.caradvice.com.au/813574/honda-australia-considers-dropping-jazz/

It seems as though they can't be bought in at the right price to be profitable and sell in decent numbers. If it can only be sold within a couple thousand of vehicles from the next size up, it's a bit of a tougher sell. As long as the Corolla/i30 (Elantra)/Cerato (Forte)/Mazda3 class still exists it's not the end of the world.

Of course once fuel prices go back up there'll be a gap in the market again for small fuel efficient cars. Do Kia still sell the Rio there? Have MG/SAIC set up operations Stateside yet?

'Your margin is my opportunity' and all of that.
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« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2020, 11:43:25 PM »
Bummer about them dropping the manual Accord too!
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« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2020, 11:56:45 PM »
This really sucks.  Everyone I know with one loves it.  I have a 2010 Hyundai Accent (similar size) and it's really the perfect little car for the 99% of the time you don't need more space.  When I bought it, a coworker was checking it out and seemed to surprised to say "It looks like it could fit groceries in it without a problem!"  Yeah, no shit.

Bwaaahaaa. I have had many occasions to buy groceries for very large groups, and they always fit in my sub compact cars! I did own a Cavalier for several years, I think that was merely compact..

Yep. Never had a problem with my tiny cars and big Costco shops. If needed, I could fit my bike in the back of my Prius C if I put down the rear seats.

Indeed. We have a regular-sized Prius (not the C), but I can fill the Costco-sized shopping cart to overflowing and it all fits in the trunk. Lately because I've been trying to space out shopping trips and get a month's worth of food in one go I've even gotten two carts full. For that I do need to use the back seat. Do people actually think they need something bigger just to buy food? I don't understand.

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2020, 06:13:44 AM »
This really sucks.  Everyone I know with one loves it.  I have a 2010 Hyundai Accent (similar size) and it's really the perfect little car for the 99% of the time you don't need more space.  When I bought it, a coworker was checking it out and seemed to surprised to say "It looks like it could fit groceries in it without a problem!"  Yeah, no shit.

Bwaaahaaa. I have had many occasions to buy groceries for very large groups, and they always fit in my sub compact cars! I did own a Cavalier for several years, I think that was merely compact..

Yep. Never had a problem with my tiny cars and big Costco shops. If needed, I could fit my bike in the back of my Prius C if I put down the rear seats.

Indeed. We have a regular-sized Prius (not the C), but I can fill the Costco-sized shopping cart to overflowing and it all fits in the trunk. Lately because I've been trying to space out shopping trips and get a month's worth of food in one go I've even gotten two carts full. For that I do need to use the back seat. Do people actually think they need something bigger just to buy food? I don't understand.

Before my son was born when it was just my wife, the dog and me I'd regularly buy all our groceries and take them home on my bike.  Including large orders (including 60 lb bags of dog food) from Costco.  :P

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2020, 07:06:47 AM »
The Fit is a nice car. However, we have teen drivers coming up and they will eventually have cars (probably a few years from now).  Loooking at crash ratings, a bigger car is a safer car, and with all the distracted driving, safety in crashes is paramount, so I will recommend midsize cars for our family members.

But the civic is a top safety pick for smaller cars:
https://www.iihs.org/ratings/top-safety-picks

Older and larger is better for teens than newer and smaller:
https://www.iihs.org/news/detail/iihs-used-car-lists-help-families-choose-safer-larger-vehicles-for-teens

"Bigger vehicles provide greater protection," Cicchino says. "If you're riding in one of the smallest vehicles on the road, you'll be at a disadvantage in a crash with almost any other vehicle around you."
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« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2020, 07:27:21 AM »
Better than expecting your teen to drive recklessly and then giving them a heavier larger vehicle with which to kill others, wouldn't a heavy emphasis on the need to drive safely be more sensible?

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« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2020, 08:09:08 AM »
Of course once fuel prices go back up there'll be a gap in the market again for small fuel efficient cars. Do Kia still sell the Rio there? Have MG/SAIC set up operations Stateside yet?
Yes, the Rio is still listed on Kia's USA website. It is heavier and less powerful than the Fit though. Also not available with a manual transmission.

MG cars haven't been sold in the US since 1980. We've never had any of the other SAIC exclusive brands as far as I'm aware.

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« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2020, 09:42:26 AM »
Better than expecting your teen to drive recklessly and then giving them a heavier larger vehicle with which to kill others, wouldn't a heavy emphasis on the need to drive safely be more sensible?

Right. Crash safety for whom? The person on the receiving end of the crash is going to be less safe the more massive the object that just hit them.

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« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2020, 09:59:20 AM »
Better than expecting your teen to drive recklessly and then giving them a heavier larger vehicle with which to kill others, wouldn't a heavy emphasis on the need to drive safely be more sensible?

Both. I don't want my teens in a subcompact out on the road with huge SUVs.

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« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2020, 11:44:00 AM »
I guess it wasn't a good "fit" for the US.

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« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2020, 06:59:04 PM »
The Honda HR-v is basically a taller Fit. With a slightly larger, more powerful engine than the Fit, and higher entry/exit height, you lose 1 mpg (fwd only).

The HR-v is more expensive up front than the Fit, but for a Mustachian that's thinking about buying a depreciated one a few years into the future, that initial price difference probably isn't going to make much difference.

You can also get used hybrid hatches that will get far better fuel economy than a Fit if that's a big factor. Cheap, used hybrids (along with cheap gas) have eroded the primary benefit to owning a small, gas sipping ICE economy car like the Fit.

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« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2020, 09:33:05 PM »
The Honda HR-v is basically a taller Fit. With a slightly larger, more powerful engine than the Fit, and higher entry/exit height, you lose 1 mpg (fwd only).

The HR-v is more expensive up front than the Fit, but for a Mustachian that's thinking about buying a depreciated one a few years into the future, that initial price difference probably isn't going to make much difference.

You can also get used hybrid hatches that will get far better fuel economy than a Fit if that's a big factor. Cheap, used hybrids (along with cheap gas) have eroded the primary benefit to owning a small, gas sipping ICE economy car like the Fit.
The HR-V is about 29-41% more expensive than the Fit. That's about 3-4 years of depreciation to get to the same point as the Fit. It also weighs 500 lb more and isn't available with a manual transmission... Fuel economy isn't the only redeeming point of the Fit. There's something to be said for an ultra simple, lightweight compact car. Also, the new Fit (the one we aren't getting) has a hybrid version so it would have been able to fill the role for excellent fuel economy too.

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2020, 12:02:07 AM »
Also not available with a manual transmission.

Yeah well honestly manual transmissions in ordinary commuter cars are a dying breed. Nobody is buying them new, and they're hard to sell used.

I'd struggle to select the three-pedal option for anything short of an MX-5 or 86/FRS/BRZ (or maybe a hot hatch) these days. On a base model Civic or Corolla? Auto every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Do you still get the Mitsubishi Mirage Stateside? It's bare bones but it's going to be as close to 'simple small basic car' as one can for a while.

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« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2020, 04:59:33 AM »

The HR-V is about 29-41% more expensive than the Fit. That's about 3-4 years of depreciation to get to the same point as the Fit. It also weighs 500 lb more and isn't available with a manual transmission... Fuel economy isn't the only redeeming point of the Fit. There's something to be said for an ultra simple, lightweight compact car. Also, the new Fit (the one we aren't getting) has a hybrid version so it would have been able to fill the role for excellent fuel economy too.

The big weight gain with the HR-V comes with the added functionality of AWD. The weight difference for FWD models is under 390lbs, not that it matters. The general public doesn't care about added weight and they don't want manual transmissions. Those who care more about driving dynamics or driver engagement than things like H points and ingress/egress are few and very far between these days.

Small hatches have always been purchased by those on a tight budget and/or those who prioritize great fuel economy. But with cheap gas, improving fuel economy in other vehicle segments, and cheap used hybrids that get 45+mpg, a lot of the luster has faded on new econoboxes. Add the fact that they're typically low margin for the manufacturers and the writing is on the wall.


The new Corolla hatch looks like a reasonable stand in for the Fit to me, offers a manual trans and has a hybrid model as well.

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« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2020, 07:37:13 AM »
AWD is not added functionality for the vast majority of drivers.  It's of little to no real value if you're not driving off-road or through extremely deep snow (and for snow, snow tires are much better than AWD with all-seasons anyway).

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« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2020, 07:41:27 AM »
Also not available with a manual transmission.

Yeah well honestly manual transmissions in ordinary commuter cars are a dying breed. Nobody is buying them new, and they're hard to sell used.

I'd struggle to select the three-pedal option for anything short of an MX-5 or 86/FRS/BRZ (or maybe a hot hatch) these days. On a base model Civic or Corolla? Auto every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Do you still get the Mitsubishi Mirage Stateside? It's bare bones but it's going to be as close to 'simple small basic car' as one can for a while.

Yeah, it's a minor thing.

Yes we still get the Mirage and it's absolutely junk compared to the Fit. Discussion here.



The HR-V is about 29-41% more expensive than the Fit. That's about 3-4 years of depreciation to get to the same point as the Fit. It also weighs 500 lb more and isn't available with a manual transmission... Fuel economy isn't the only redeeming point of the Fit. There's something to be said for an ultra simple, lightweight compact car. Also, the new Fit (the one we aren't getting) has a hybrid version so it would have been able to fill the role for excellent fuel economy too.

The big weight gain with the HR-V comes with the added functionality of AWD. The weight difference for FWD models is under 390lbs, not that it matters. The general public doesn't care about added weight and they don't want manual transmissions. Those who care more about driving dynamics or driver engagement than things like H points and ingress/egress are few and very far between these days.

Small hatches have always been purchased by those on a tight budget and/or those who prioritize great fuel economy. But with cheap gas, improving fuel economy in other vehicle segments, and cheap used hybrids that get 45+mpg, a lot of the luster has faded on new econoboxes. Add the fact that they're typically low margin for the manufacturers and the writing is on the wall.


The new Corolla hatch looks like a reasonable stand in for the Fit to me, offers a manual trans and has a hybrid model as well.

You are right, it's more like 300-350 lb when comparing FWD to FWD. I missed that when I was grabbing numbers. Still a pretty big difference. The general public isn't what this thread is about. It's about a loss of a good option for Mustachians. The Fit was the first listed car in MMM's top cars blog post. In fact, with the Yaris also being discontinued after the 2020 model year all seven six out of seven of his top recommended vehicles are no longer being sold new.

The Corolla hatchback is not available as a hybrid currently.

These are the remaining sub-$20k hatchbacks for sale in the USA: Toyota Corolla hatchback, Mitsubishi Mirage, Kia Rio 5-door, Hyundai Veloster, MINI Cooper (and there aren't many more even up to $30k). That is really limited choice which is sad for Mustachians (especially future ones looking for solid used cars).
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« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2020, 08:14:19 AM »
These are the remaining sub-$20k hatchbacks for sale in the USA: Toyota Corolla hatchback, Mitsubishi Mirage, Kia Rio 5-door, Hyundai Veloster, MINI Cooper (and there aren't many more even up to $30k). That is really limited choice which is sad for Mustachians (especially future ones looking for solid used cars).

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« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2020, 08:31:53 AM »
Man, I was JUST thinking last night that I want to trade my Elantra for a new Fit. I hate the Elantra, it was a terrible decision.

Someone mentioned the Kia as similiar, but I won't buy a Kia- I can't get past the name- I immediately think of the military implications of KIA.

The back row configurations of the Fit were brilliant. Like a mini van for a tiny car.

I feel like the Civic Coupe is a huge loss too.  (I had one for 12 years. It was an amazing car.)
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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2020, 08:37:05 AM »
These are the remaining sub-$20k hatchbacks for sale in the USA: Toyota Corolla hatchback, Mitsubishi Mirage, Kia Rio 5-door, Hyundai Veloster, MINI Cooper (and there aren't many more even up to $30k). That is really limited choice which is sad for Mustachians (especially future ones looking for solid used cars).

Vacation in Mexico
buy used car
drive 2 years
sell for more
rinse and repeat

Importing vehicles to the US is very difficult. You're essentially limited to vehicles you could have bought here anyway or over 25 years old.

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2020, 08:53:28 AM »
The Corolla hatchback is not available as a hybrid currently.

These are the remaining sub-$20k hatchbacks for sale in the USA: Toyota Corolla hatchback, Mitsubishi Mirage, Kia Rio 5-door, Hyundai Veloster, MINI Cooper (and there aren't many more even up to $30k). That is really limited choice which is sad for Mustachians (especially future ones looking for solid used cars).

Well by raising the suspension and tweaking the styling a little, you get a HR-V, C-HR, Venue, Kona or CX3 that people will pay more for. Margins are fairly thin for automakers on commuter cars, so I guess that's their strategy. I guess they'll be the closest thing to Mustachian used cars down the track.

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2020, 08:55:08 AM »
RIP Honda Fit

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #46 on: July 20, 2020, 10:45:55 AM »
I have mixed feelings about the Fit - I have had two of them and currently have a 2013 Fit.  It is extremely reliable and has an insane amount of space (among other things, I have pulled up to a Lowe's and stuffed a snowblower into the back of it while two guys in a giant pickup were loading up their snowblower and smirking/gawking at me).  I can't emphasize enough how much stuff you can cram into a Fit.  It's like a TARDIS.

However, prior to the Fit I had an Echo (sadly also discontinued) which is still running for my parents and is extremely reliable as well.  You couldn't fit a snowblower into an Echo, but it did get better gas mileage (around 40 mpg, which my parents love).  That is my one complaint with the Fit - I have not been impressed with the mileage.  It's true that I tote around kayaks and bikes and stuff on it that reduces the mileage, but even without the kayak and bike racks it only got mid-30s for mileage for me.  In the dead of winter it's low 30s.  So my parents will probably inherit my Fit eventually when the Echo dies, while I will move on to a Prius or a Hyundai Ionic.  I just want my next car to get in the 50s for gas mileage, and maybe some electric range as well if I end up getting solar panels on our tiny house (we had solar panels on the old one before we downsized).

So, RIP Echo, RIP Fit.  Let's hope the Prius soldiers on.

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #47 on: July 20, 2020, 11:07:17 AM »
What the heck are you all sad about? Almost no one should be buying one new and you have at least 5-9 years of being able to buy finely depreciated used examples!
There are definitely things to be sad about. Future Mustachians 10 years from now will have less selection for practical efficient vehicles. It indicates a fall in demand for efficient vehicles. Honda went through the trouble to design a brand new Fit and decided we weren't worthy of it. Its discontinuation means one less vehicle I can recommend to less Mustachian people that insist on a new vehicle.

Isn't Toyota going to make basically everything hybrid in the short to medium term?

Many of (all?) their sedans are available hybrid (MPGs from mid 40s to early 50s). As is the Rav4 (~ 40 MPG). All of these vehicles have higher MPG than the FIT (high 30s).

The new Venza (40 MPG) and Sienna (33 MPG) will be hybrid only.

On that list, the only vehicle with lower MPG than the fit is the Sienna and it's pretty clear that they aren't exactly competitors.

The way I see it the main advantages of the Fit were low cost, fuel economy, and flexibility via the hatchback. But something like the Corolla Hybrid would be significantly better in terms of fuel economy and still at a fairly low cost. I wish they would make a Corolla Hatchback Hybrid, but I think they're worried about cannibalizing the Prius market.

Anyway, I think we will have way more selection for fuel efficient vehicles with high reliability in 10 years. I've got a 2011 Venza that I'm hoping lasts till 2025 or so. I think we'll have lots of great options by then.

I'd bet in a decade the standard will be more like plug in hybrid than just the current hybrids that generally have a higher MPG than the fit.

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #48 on: July 20, 2020, 11:23:14 AM »
What the heck are you all sad about? Almost no one should be buying one new and you have at least 5-9 years of being able to buy finely depreciated used examples!
There are definitely things to be sad about. Future Mustachians 10 years from now will have less selection for practical efficient vehicles. It indicates a fall in demand for efficient vehicles. Honda went through the trouble to design a brand new Fit and decided we weren't worthy of it. Its discontinuation means one less vehicle I can recommend to less Mustachian people that insist on a new vehicle.

Isn't Toyota going to make basically everything hybrid in the short to medium term?

Many of (all?) their sedans are available hybrid (MPGs from mid 40s to early 50s). As is the Rav4 (~ 40 MPG). All of these vehicles have higher MPG than the FIT (high 30s).

The new Venza (40 MPG) and Sienna (33 MPG) will be hybrid only.

On that list, the only vehicle with lower MPG than the fit is the Sienna and it's pretty clear that they aren't exactly competitors.

The way I see it the main advantages of the Fit were low cost, fuel economy, and flexibility via the hatchback. But something like the Corolla Hybrid would be significantly better in terms of fuel economy and still at a fairly low cost. I wish they would make a Corolla Hatchback Hybrid, but I think they're worried about cannibalizing the Prius market.

Anyway, I think we will have way more selection for fuel efficient vehicles with high reliability in 10 years. I've got a 2011 Venza that I'm hoping lasts till 2025 or so. I think we'll have lots of great options by then.

I'd bet in a decade the standard will be more like plug in hybrid than just the current hybrids that generally have a higher MPG than the fit.

A little unfair to compare fuel economy of the ongoing Toyotas to the discontinued Fit. As I mentioned earlier the new Fit has a hybrid version. It's using the powertrain from the new Insight so I would expect fuel economy numbers to be similar to that (52 mpg).

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Re: Honda Fit discontinued for the US
« Reply #49 on: July 20, 2020, 11:27:33 AM »
This makes me sad. I'm still lusting after a 2nd gen with a manual trans, but I don't expect any of my current cars to die anytime soon.