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Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« on: November 13, 2016, 08:27:58 PM »
I've read and talked to many parents and it seems the general advice is not to get caught up in parenthood and overbuying on useless shit.

Not that long ago i thought i'd never fall into that trap, but as the time is approaching I feel I am and what better place than this to come for some good feedback and some face punches.

We are expecting our first child in February, so far we've inherited a ton of stuff from a crib/clothes/bassinet/baby changing station/etc, you name it.  We were also going to inherit a fairly expensive ($1k) stroller from my wife's cousin.  Overall my wife's side of the family is well to do, they've been the ones giving out the hand me downs that we've been very grateful for...with that comes my issue.

Because so much has been given to us and we haven't even had a baby shower yet (we don't want one, the family insists) i keep telling myself it's ok to drop some money on a stroller, because why the fuck not?  On the flip side, i feel i am falling victim to the whole thing "buy the best, it will serve well for your second kid, you live in a cold climate, you need the best quality, etc".

Our household income is just over 250k, no debt, used cars, but i'm considering quitting my job in the near future because i don't like what i do.   I don't want to let this shit get to my head and want to stick to my old frugal ways.

What do the MMM parents have to say about bullshit like strollers?  I am totally ok with used, i have no idea what to look for, i don't know if i buy a different brand car seat and how it would work with a different brand stroller, etc....so i keep reverting back to "stroller travel systems" and other gimmicky bullshit, but maybe it's worth it?  I don't know, please help.

Thanks.

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2016, 08:34:55 PM »
You came to the wrong place for the kind of support you are looking for.

Whatever expenses are considered face-punch worthy, the categories related to spending on children, dogs& cats and home refurbishments seem to be about 85% exempt from criticism around here.

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2016, 08:41:45 PM »
I'm not understanding. What happened to the expensive stroller you were going to inherit?

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2016, 10:17:45 PM »
but maybe it's worth it?
Not worth it.  Here's the thing, your baby doesn't give a fuck about what modern parenting says you "need".  However, baby will come out and be more than willing to tell you what they want (hint they can't talk, and if they are upset all they do is cry). 

My story: mom buys me a travel system, bucket car seat and stroller, because it's a must.  (At least she was wise enough to get it at a model clear-out sale).  First born hates strolling in the bucket seat....like screaming hates.  On more than one occasion I had to carry him home and push the stroller when we were kilometres away.  Bought a Chariot, used, duh;) no more screaming and I can push it through a blizzard.  Child #2 comes along and I am using the same bucket seat.  Child screams every second we are in the car.  (Thankfully we rarely drive).  Finally I can't take it anymore and buy a rear-facing convertible.  Screams gone.

Buy as few things as possible and play it by ear.

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2016, 10:46:53 PM »
My feeling, based on some experience, is the "investment" concept doesn't usually pan out. Stuff gets recalled or gets grungy or goes out of style... if you fall prey to feeling you have to buy expensive stuff for your baby now, my bet is you'll wind up doing it for future kids too. You know baby stuff is a bad investment because there's so much of it out there to be handed down or bought cheap. And you really can't tell what will or won't work for a particular baby, so you might as well be frugal. Just be careful of yard sale items, which might have been damaged or recalled, and you'll be fine.

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2016, 11:14:42 PM »
The best way to get "over" this urge, is to imagine yourself within 2 years sitting in your family / living room, with plastic and other baby "crap" surrounding your, piled up to your ears. )3ft high)

Do you like the view?

This literally happened to me, and triggered a massive reduction in spending and allowing other people to buy / gift us things for the kids.   I too, was fortunate with a lot of hand-me downs and generous relatives, plus our own urge to buy christmas / birthday etc presents.




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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2016, 11:51:00 PM »
That's a very creative use of the the word "inherit".

Some people these days spend so much on strollers they should be updating their list of valuables for insurance purposes, or even their wills/estates to include the value of these footpath SUVs.

I used to be wheeled around in one of those fold up umbrella types.... never see them these days.

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2016, 02:36:43 AM »
Sounds like you've already been given everything you need. Keep your money. You will need it later on.

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2016, 03:22:00 AM »
Wow 2 weeks into parenthood for me on my first child. We bought stuff!! We had a baby shower. Now it's time to see if some of it will actually get used. My gut instinct is too much.
Anyway if you get the feeling you have enough then you do! I mean in my situation I am only 10 minutes away of buying something if I actually need it.

Good luck and make decisions inline with your goals.

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2016, 03:37:52 AM »
My first pregnancy was unplanned and I had no job at the time. I had just moved to my husband in Sweden and as I am from Eastern Europe his brother was quite sure I was a gold digger. I had perfectly decent savings (30 000€ cca) but I was afraid of wasting them not knowing when I'd have a job again. Husband was in full paranoia mode because someone told him kids cost millions. I ended up getting a free 5 year old Italian stroller from a friend who had it for her kid. Dragged it across Europe (luckily I could check it in for free heavily pregnant). I am stressing out Italian stroller going to Sweden as you can assume the wheels were not made with the same kind of weather in mind. Still the stroller served me just fine. We even took it with us to Luxembourg when the kiddo was 18 months and now he is 3 and he still sometimes gets pushed around in it.  Lesson - you need a bassinet then seat on wheels and that is it, everything else is just marketing.

I honestly feel a bit sorry for the women from my home country I see debating how many different strollers they may need for different kinds of terrain and weather. Like, seriously... I was able to take an Italian city stroller into the Swedish wilderness without any damage to me, baby or the stroller and people are seriously debating whether you can have the same stroller year round.

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2016, 03:58:35 AM »
Don't sweat the bullshit.  You're going to make mistakes; you're going to buy stuff you don't need. You're going to buy stuff your kid hates, or can't use, or whatever. You're going to rush out at the last minute for an emergency purchase for something you do need, and pay full price for it, with expedited shipping.  It's going to happen. You have a kid - it's already financially sub-optimal, by a long shot.

Good news - IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD!

Personally, I would wait to make any big purchases until after the baby shower; but if a $1,000 dollar stroller brings you joy as it sits under the stairs for 97% of its life, then go for it. It's small potatoes.

Congrats on the kiddo! And good luck!

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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2016, 05:30:57 AM »
I wouldn't register for or buy stuff that you that you already have, but if you are going to have a shower, register for some practical things and don't over think it - car seat(s), diapers (cloth or disposable), feeding stuff, a vibrating chair and/or exersaucer, baby carrier/backpack.  Fancy strollers in a cold or wet climate does nothing for you - it's going to get weathered, just like any other stroller but it's more expensive.   

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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2016, 07:49:21 AM »
Ok, solution OP. Turn off the tv. Stop reading/watching anything regarding babies. Go on a full low information diet.

Anyone asks you what you need, "we're all set on stuff, thanks! But we'd love a coupon for a few hours of babysitting." Or help with laundry, cleaning, cooking, etc.

Anything you actually need, you'll figure it out AFTER the baby is born.

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2016, 08:03:10 AM »
I wouldn't register for or buy stuff that you that you already have, but if you are going to have a shower, register for some practical things and don't over think it - car seat(s), diapers (cloth or disposable), feeding stuff, a vibrating chair and/or exersaucer, baby carrier/backpack.  Fancy strollers in a cold or wet climate does nothing for you - it's going to get weathered, just like any other stroller but it's more expensive.   

Other shower suggestions that friends have had and appreciated:
- children's book shower (aka: stock the baby's bookcases for the next 4-5 years or so). We got lots of books as gifts (social circle of bookworms) and it was, and still is, fantastic.
- stock the freezer shower (aka: frozen or otherwise preserved low-effort foods for the parents to enjoy during the first few weeks of having no time to cook. Especially lovely when accompanied by coupons for a promised delivery of fruits/crudité plates/salads)

People want to participate in the happiness, and some people like to express that materially, so take the contribution in the spirit that it's intended (roughly: "oh we're so happy for you this is so great let us buy you things to show how great and wonderful it is we're so happy!!", and for those people, saying 'no thanks' gets interpreted as "back off and butt out", and then they get insulted - understanding the social language at play goes pretty far here) and so take the contribution and channel it to something useful and appreciated. Basically: appreciate the emotion, chanel the output. ;)

And I also live in a cold climate. Honestly, the stroller was super nice when Kid got a bit older, but until she was about 9 months old, she'd howl if put down at all. Baby carrier got us a lot further, ESPECIALLY through snow and slush and mud (YOU try getting stroller wheels through that). All else fails, get something with really big wheels - I believe Graeco has a large-wheeled model that is affordable and will plough through most obstacles. Brand-name won't get through snow any better than no-brand-name, and the cold will mess up the plastic on both of them, so do NOT store it outside in winter, no matter which make/model it is. Basically: don't rush on this one, see if you really need one a few weeks/months in or if a carrier is more practical for your situation, and buy it used - strollers depreciate like mad, it's not worth the cost.



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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2016, 08:22:18 AM »
I used to be wheeled around in one of those fold up umbrella types.... never see them these days.

There's a reason for that.  We have a moderately priced nicer stroller (City Mini, one of the most popular models, think it was ~$300) and it works really well.  I took my daughter to my parents' house for the weekend (via airplane) and decided rather than bringing the largish stroller, I'd get a $20 Amazon umbrella one dropshipped to their house that then I could leave there and use in the future.  I attempted to push it around the zoo one day, and it was terrible.

-Small wheels would get hung up on the smallest rock
-push bars were low so I had to hunch over to push it (I'm 6', not ridiculously tall)
-the distance from the handlebars to the wheels was too short so you were constantly kicking the back of it while walking
-no built in storage (ie, pocket below the seat) to carry all the other crap you need to carry when you have a kid in a stroller

etc. 

Yeah, fuck that thing. 

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2016, 08:47:03 AM »
Mother of two, grandmother of three here. You don't need much to start...you need to have a carseat to bring the baby home from the hospital, and a bassinette on wheels for the little one to sleep in and so you can wheel it around the house to wherever you are...or close enough so you can hear it fuss. You'll need more things in the initial layette than you think, because tiny babies are messy, and you'll want to change it, wipe it, etc. frequently. So little T-shirts, onesies, little warm socks, changing pads of some sort, burp pads (or just your dishtowels) for when it's up on your shoulder and spits up. Baby blankets. Baby washrags and those baby towels with the hood incorporated. Baby soap, lotion, shampoo. Alcohol and cotton balls until the cord drops off. Get your initial baby clothes no smaller than three-month size, and preferably six-month. They outgrow that stuff super-quickly, which is why, of course, so much is available as hand-me-downs. Little brush and comb. For diaper rash prevention, I always had far better success with A&D ointment rather than all the zinc oxide products. Some kind of bag that can be used as a diaper bag--doesn't have to be a dedicated "diaper bag." (I'm not getting into bottles, breast pumps...a whole other subject.) I would get a pac n play right away--very good if you're taking the baby over to your mom's house or anything like that. I think you can hold off on strollers for awhile, but I'll just say that I never had anything other than an umbrella stroller. I would just carry baby, shoulder bag with supplies, and stroller from the car through the snow or slush, and then at the mall or whatever plunk the little one into the stroller. I didn't use a lot of devices--my babies were usually on my lap or in my arms--I was like Gretchen Wilson in the country song..."With a baby on my hip." We were a military family though--moved around, travelled a lot, lived kind of minimally...didn't have a lot of "stuff."

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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2016, 09:26:58 AM »
Baby soap, lotion, shampoo. Alcohol and cotton balls until the cord drops off.

I agree with this poster except for these.  I never used baby soap, lotion, or shampoo on an infant.  In fact, my doctor recommended water only for a while and said no alcohol on belly button area.

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2016, 09:27:07 AM »
Pack n'play. Car seat that you can pop into a stroller (these can be cheap). Maybe a swing. (We got most stuff 2nd hand or free-- you'd be amazed at the stuff you see on the curb). I swear by this highchair- very easy to clean.  http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S79067506/  Really that's all you need.

Also team umbrella stroller here-- for $15 it lasted forever, light and easy to store.

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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2016, 11:05:33 AM »
Baby soap, lotion, shampoo. Alcohol and cotton balls until the cord drops off.

I agree with this poster except for these.  I never used baby soap, lotion, or shampoo on an infant.  In fact, my doctor recommended water only for a while and said no alcohol on belly button area.

 Thanks for jogging my memory. I never bought baby lotion and powder, but had received some in gift packages, so used a tiny bit on the tinies just for the good smell. My husband and I used up the baby shampoo and castile soap on ourselves in the shower.  I think in the 70's we were still putting alcohol on the cord, but if that has gone with the wind, I stand corrected.

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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2016, 11:11:47 AM »
Two kids, 6 years apart, got rid of everything in between.

Kid #1:
Stroller #1: hand me down from a friend who was tossing her 6 year old one.  Carseat from a different manufacturer, also a hand me down.  They did not "fit" together, but who cares, we strapped them together.
Stroller #2: (when he was "out" of that carseat) - A $120 cheap jogging stroller from Amazon, which was a birthday gift or Christmas gift.  It lasted until he was old enough to not use a stroller, about aged 3.

Kid #2:
Stroller #1: a cheap carseat/ clip in stroller combo.  Lasted 6 months before he grew out of the bucket seat.  I think it was $100 for the pair.  Got passed on to someone else.
Stroller #2: a $50 stroller from Amazon.  By this point, I realized that a jogging stroller was a waste of money. I wasn't going to jog at all with 2 kids.  I walked a lot.  A regular stroller was fine.  That thing was on it's last legs by the time it died, around age 4.
(A friend did gift me her very old jogging stroller.  Used it a few times.  Too big.)

Around here, it's very popular and common to spend $$ on a BOB stroller.  They have great resale value.  Still, a $50 stroller is cheaper than buying one for $450 and selling it for $250.  Or whatever.

The $50 stroller with kid #2 was like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Jeep-Brand-Metro-Stroller-Lunar/dp/B01EL9QNPG/ref=sr_1_2_s_it?s=baby-products&ie=UTF8&qid=1479146727&sr=1-2&keywords=jeep%2Bstroller&th=1

Cheap travel system sort of like this, but the stroller part of ours wasn't a stroller, just something with wheels.

I also learned to look for "ugly".  Various sites will sell ugly carseats for less.  My older son's Britax Roundabout was $40 off because it was bright red.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MG5KPFG/ref=s9_newrz_hd_bw_bBI535_g75_i4?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_r=771F4Y4FGAP0R80MVZ7B&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=91b05ae2-6f53-5e85-9785-34137613841c&pf_rd_i=166849011

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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2016, 11:14:07 AM »
I used to be wheeled around in one of those fold up umbrella types.... never see them these days.

There's a reason for that.  We have a moderately priced nicer stroller (City Mini, one of the most popular models, think it was ~$300) and it works really well.  I took my daughter to my parents' house for the weekend (via airplane) and decided rather than bringing the largish stroller, I'd get a $20 Amazon umbrella one dropshipped to their house that then I could leave there and use in the future.  I attempted to push it around the zoo one day, and it was terrible.

-Small wheels would get hung up on the smallest rock
-push bars were low so I had to hunch over to push it (I'm 6', not ridiculously tall)
-the distance from the handlebars to the wheels was too short so you were constantly kicking the back of it while walking
-no built in storage (ie, pocket below the seat) to carry all the other crap you need to carry when you have a kid in a stroller

etc. 

Yeah, fuck that thing.
Prob cheaper to rent one from the zoo for the day.

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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2016, 11:42:25 AM »
I used to be wheeled around in one of those fold up umbrella types.... never see them these days.

There's a reason for that.  We have a moderately priced nicer stroller (City Mini, one of the most popular models, think it was ~$300) and it works really well.  I took my daughter to my parents' house for the weekend (via airplane) and decided rather than bringing the largish stroller, I'd get a $20 Amazon umbrella one dropshipped to their house that then I could leave there and use in the future.  I attempted to push it around the zoo one day, and it was terrible.

-Small wheels would get hung up on the smallest rock
-push bars were low so I had to hunch over to push it (I'm 6', not ridiculously tall)
-the distance from the handlebars to the wheels was too short so you were constantly kicking the back of it while walking
-no built in storage (ie, pocket below the seat) to carry all the other crap you need to carry when you have a kid in a stroller

etc. 

Yeah, fuck that thing.
Prob cheaper to rent one from the zoo for the day.

The plan was to have it at my parents' long term for any time we needed a stroller there.

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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2016, 11:53:10 AM »
Do not buy anything you are not willing to throw in the trash.  Anything bought for a child should be considered immediately expendable the next day.  So do not buy anything super nice or expensive because it will get crapped/puked/peed on.

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« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2016, 12:45:53 PM »
I agree with those saying you can and should resist stocking up on baby stuff. I know we all want to celebrate and honor this special time but there are much more fulfilling ways to do so than filling up your house with disposable crap. You'll probably need only 5-10% of what society and your community think you ought to buy, and there's not much need to buy stuff in advance. Before our 1st was born I think the only baby stuff we owned were 2-3 onesies, a couple blankets, a big box of cloth diapers/covers (second-hand), and some wipes. We also had some rags/towels to clean up from the home birth. We have never felt we were missing anything. And best of all, we didn't experience the hidden cost of all that stuff: suddenly your house feels cramped with all the baby stuff and so you need to buy a bigger one.

Example: we never had a stroller except a $20 umbrella stroller that we were given about 2 years into our first kid's life, and which we barely used. Certainly no changing table or crib or bouncer or swing or high chair or car or... well, pretty much everything. They are now 5 and 3. They do have a pedal bike and a balance bike now. But anything you _need_ you can get after the need is identified. I am a personal fan of the Moby wrap for carrying a young baby ($35-40 on Amazon), but we didn't need one right away.

Congratulations and have fun!

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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2016, 12:58:43 PM »
A counterpoint to someone who suggested against a jogging stroller - I love my jogging stroller.  It's almost seven years old now, mid-range model, and I ran with it a lot with each of my two kids.   It is also great for walking.  I use it less currently because my youngest is 3, but it was still a great decision.

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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2016, 01:24:23 PM »
We're new parents ourselves.  Everything you could possibly want or need will show up on a neighborhood list, friends of friends, or craigslist.  We bought our child seat new (heavily discounted) as that was the only thing that gave me pause about something used.  Beyond that I have purchased new exactly 1 onesie.  Thrift stores are full of lightly used stuff, and the fact is, most items are outgrown long before their useful life arrives.  So, my advice fwiw, is to spend the time shopping but shopping in the neighborhood listservs, CL, etc.  It will all be there.

Congrats on the new arrival, it is a life changer.

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« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2016, 04:06:44 PM »
A counterpoint to someone who suggested against a jogging stroller - I love my jogging stroller.  It's almost seven years old now, mid-range model, and I ran with it a lot with each of my two kids.   It is also great for walking.  I use it less currently because my youngest is 3, but it was still a great decision.
Oh I didn't mean to argue against jogging strollers in general, it just wasn't practical for ME.

I did jog a little bit with kid #1.

But with kid #2, whenever I had the baby, I had the 6 year old, and HE wasn't going to be out jogging with me.  But he could go for short walks.  The stroller got to be "transportation".  Like when I walked the big kid to school.

If I wanted to jog, pretty much could do only do it when husband was around, didn't need a jogging stroller.

My friends who *did* jog got a stroller, jogged, then had another kid, had to trade up to a double.

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« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2016, 07:47:35 PM »
Every parent you know has an attic or a garage or a storage unit full of baby paraphernalia that they are dying to get rid of. You need some more stuff? Give me your address. I'll send you a room full of crap.

It's crazy to spend a lot of money on this stuff. We have a fancy BOB stroller that was a gift. Our kid is two and we haven't used it in half a year because she insists on walking everywhere. We got - maybe - a year and half's use out of it. We have a fancy $200+ 4 Moms Mamaroo (also a gift) swing/chair/thing that was used about six months. It now takes up space in our garage as we try to unload it. Nice clothes? Your kid will wear them a month before they outgrow it. We have nice things with tags still on them that she never wore. Somehow we missed the size window.

Toys? Until they're three, they're deliriously happy playing with a cardboard box, or a rock, or whatever catches their eye in the moment.

We received so many hand-me-downs and gift items that we've hardly bought our child anything. We still have a big room that's completely cluttered with stuff.

In sum, don't be stupid. Save your money for a nice weekend getaway. You'll need it.
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« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2016, 08:31:28 PM »
If your family's dying to throw you a shower, be happy about it -- they're already excited about the new baby and want to be part of the anticipation.  However, if you don't want a big shindig with $30 teddy bears and lacy dresses that'll scratch the baby, request a Book-and-Diaper shower.  You will need both of these things.  Yeah, a few people will bring something else, but most will adhere to the theme. 

If someone asks you what you really, really want, ask for a gift certificate to a photography place.  No one in the history of ever has ever said, "I just have too many pictures of my children when they were small.  I don't enjoy looking at those pictures and remembering those days." 

As for the stroller, jump all over the "inherited" model.  I don't really know how a stroller can cost $1000, but I loved my large stroller.  The stroller gave me a way to go out and walk /get some exercise, and we used it for years.  A large stroller lays down flat for a newborn, but also works for a toddler.  You'll use it constantly for things as mundane as trips to the mall, but you'll also use it for fun family outings. 

My best advice for buying things:  For things you're going to use everyday for a long time (and possibly with a second child), spend whatever it takes to get quality items.  This'd mean crib, stroller, high chair, car seat ... but pretty much everything else is transitory -- except a breastfeeding pillow; that's a monumental back-saver for Mom and a very worthwhile improvement over a plain bedpillow.  Search for ways to skimp on clothing and toys, which don't last long at all.  Oh, and when you're buying those big ticket /going to last a long time items, buy them in neutral colors -- no pink, for example. 

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2016, 11:03:21 PM »
Anything you actually need, you'll figure it out AFTER the baby is born.

Also, in terms of larger items (bouncers, etc), ask friends with kids if you can test bub out in them before spending any money.

As someone else said, all babies are different and what will soothe one will bedevil another, so experiment for free and see what works.

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2016, 07:49:29 AM »
Just playing devil's advocate about toys. I agree they like to play with the box and all that, but my grandchildren noticed and liked toys--seemed to know what they were--from at least five months old, if not a little earlier. I'd get a couple age-appropriate things, and see what you think.

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2016, 07:59:26 AM »
If your family's dying to throw you a shower, be happy about it.

This.  We had nearly every baby gadget known to man, and bought like 2% of it ourselves.  We bought some basic clothes (everyone wants to buy cute outfits, no one buys white onesies and socks) and we bought a swing after we didn't register for one.  Plus we bought some stuff later for the kid as she got older that wasn't in the first baby round.  The swing was a $40 closeout we found somewhere and it turned out to be a lifesaver, was really the only place my daughter would nap.

We are fortunate, we had the first baby on both sides of two affluent families so I realize that's not everyone's reality.  But the whole "tell people not to buy you anything" thing, no, you're going to need a fair amount of stuff no matter how laid back you are about it, and it's nice when other people pay for it.  And as others have mentioned, you won't know what does and doesn't work for you until you and the kid try it. 

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2016, 08:14:02 AM »
Just playing devil's advocate about toys. I agree they like to play with the box and all that, but my grandchildren noticed and liked toys--seemed to know what they were--from at least five months old, if not a little earlier. I'd get a couple age-appropriate things, and see what you think.

Absolutely. You don't 'need' them, but they definitely make life easier. We had some books, a rattle, a Sophie the Giraffe (helped teething like nothing else) and this super-ugly stuffed fish with different crinkly textures in the finns and tails that she ADORED. All together, it fit in a small basket, and it definitely wasn't much but it helped.

Also, for the record: "you don't 'need' them, but they definitely make life easier" sums up most baby gear. Like, you don't NEED a carrier, but when your baby won't accept being put down and you want lunch, it's really nice to have. You don't NEED a swing/bouncer/whatever, but if it's the one thing that will get the 5-month-old to nap and stop screaming, it's really helpful (word of advice on these: TRY THEM FIRST. Some babies love them, some babies hate them, some babies only like one or the other, and they're huge and bulky to store and most parents are desperate to get rid of them as soon as the kid grows out of them, for space reasons.) You don't NEED a crib, but when the 9-month-old start sleeping horizontally across your bed and kicking you in the face at 2am (hypothetically...) or when the 1.5-year-old can wake up by herself and you'd like her contained until you wake up to go get her, rather than exploring the house... you get the picture.

Ok: a LOT of baby gear is semi-useless (so many toys. Wipes warmers. So many cute outfits. etc). But a lot of it is bulky and expensive but DOES make life easier. Is it necessary? No. Can you do without? Sure. If you can get it for free/cheap, is it worth having? For some things, I'd definitely say yes.

You also don't need to get it all at once. If, a month in, you put your baby down in a friend's swing and notice that, hey, it's the one time she's stopped howling all day, THEN go buy one.

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2016, 09:57:05 AM »
I say trust your gut.  YOU really do know what you need for your situation.  Everyone is so different. 

Everyone said that you HAVE to go to birthing classes.  I thought it was stupid and we didn't go.  I'm so glad that I trusted my own instincts and didn't waste the time.

People told us that we didn't need a video camera baby monitor, but for us, we really did find it incredibly useful and practically life changing as I suspected we would.  I'm just sorry that it took us 6 months to buy it.  I should have trusted my instincts there. 

Regarding the baby shower:  I am blessed with lots of family, friends, and a lot of work friends.    The work group really wanted to throw a shower, but I already had a big one with family/friends.  So, we had a book shower and asked people to bring a book, new or used.  It was awesome and people loved it. 


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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2016, 10:07:31 AM »
I used to be wheeled around in one of those fold up umbrella types.... never see them these days.

We have one!  LOL!

BUT we stopped using it.  Somebody gave my wife a double stroller.  Literally, the toddler and the baby can both go in it.  I think it weighs more than a Honda Fit.  It was free (to us), though, and she seems to love it, so I just smile and say nothing.

We basically had to buy not clothing, either.  We have very generous friends an family, and she has a circle of women she participates in sharing clothes around.  One kid outgrows them, and they go to another family with a kid that size.

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2016, 08:18:24 PM »
Mustachianism applies to babies too!  Buying more stuff won't make parenting easier or more enjoyable.  I found out about the SoKind registry (www.sokindregistry.org) through a friend's baby shower.  I used it for my wedding because it was such a cool and unique registry (you can ask for traditional items, hand-me-downs, gifts of service or time, etc). It was great - she asked for some specific hand-me-downs (so that she didn't end up with like 4 bouncers, 3 pack n' plays, but no high chair for instance), gifts of service (babysitting for a night, making and delivering meals for the first week or so after she was back, cleaning the house, etc.), and diapers.

There's been good advice about essentials.  Start small, focus on hand-me-downs, and take a deep breath!  I also noticed this frenzy that people get in that YOU MUST HAVE EVERYTHING YOU'LL EVER NEED FOR THE BABY BEFORE ITS BORN.  You really don't - I'm sure there are a handful of stores that are easily accessible that you could get an item if you didn't have it and absolutely needed it.

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2016, 03:22:28 PM »
Good advice on the thread so far. 

One thing that helped me not buy all the things was noticing that what most new-parent targeted advertising is really selling is FEAR!  They know that you would pretty much pay anything to keep your kid safe.  So do your own research and decide what kind of safety you can *actually* buy and what is just an illusion.  For me, that meant new infant carseats and second-hand everything else.

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« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2016, 03:29:35 PM »
Another thing that really helped us was urging our parents to go out and buy inexpensive basics that we might need if we visited, so we either don't need to buy or schlep our own to their houses.  My inlaws went out and bought an inexpensive crib given that they have a fair number of grandkids, so we can all rely on that rather than dragging along a pack and play, and my parents who live on the coast (ie, we usually fly there) bought a car seat, pack and play, high chair, etc so that we don't have to bring any of that stuff.  Car seat especially, I feel like they get banged up through travel, and really what you're paying for in a higher end car seat is comfort and usability (i.e., push button clips to remove them versus those clips that are a PITA to disconnect) which are easy to sacrifice in something seldom used but maybe more important for daily use.  So my kid rode in a $150 car seat every day at home, but a $40 at Grandma's house the 4 times a year she's there.  In fact, I think my mom has an informal grandma's group at work where they all pitched in and bought a high chair, pack and play, etc, and they just pass it around to whomever needs it because the grandkids are in town. 

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2016, 05:08:50 PM »
You sound like you have your priorities fairly straight. So don't stress. I'm gathering that you are about to be DAD!

My mum brought me a book when I had #2. "Fun Start" 260 weekly development activities from birth to age 5. Activities that are good for your child and cost, well, you have stuff around the house that will do the job already or FREE. By June R Oberlander.
If someone has to buy something for the baby, look along these lines.
- Books (NOT PARENTING BOOKS OR SLEEP TRAINING BOOKS, They can undermine anyones confidence in parenting)
- Blankets
- Toy library membership
- Swimming lessons (bubs and mums). I'm Australian, and water saftey is a must.
- Nappies/ wipes & consumables. Or maybe cloth options are on your list. Loads of burp cloths.
- Couch covers for your couch if it is fabric.
It sounds like everything else you have sorted for baby.

For the mum!
- Hide a few blocks of chocolate, and when she rings stressed out. Let her know where they are. I'm talking luxury good chocolates and possibly a coffee pod or two and a sweet note to let her know you care. 
- Nursing bras. Seriously, I'm 25 pregs with #4 and know that my breast size will go up two or three sizes when bub comes along and my milk comes in. These bras are not cheap. Breastfeeding is free. Be available, and have some $ stashed for day 3 or day 4 of your child's birth. Have a measuring tape handy to check her new size. Be able to go bra shopping for your wife. She will most likely be sore, not feel like venturing out to shop and have nothing to fit her.
- Possibly some frozen face washes or small ice packs for breasts, know which breast pump she might prefer & have a couple of hundred stuffed away just incase she needs one to cater for engorgement.
- Maternity pads. Loads of them. Post partum bleeding can last up to 6 weeks, and isn't pleasant. Know the difference between 'panty liners' and 'maternity pads'. Under NO conditions bring home panty liners... they will not do the job. 9 packets or so should start you off. 
- Breast Pads. I really like the fabric ones, have a combination on hand.
- The baby grows fast, and the bub will have loads of outfits. Mum however, needs comfy clothing that means people don't ask her every five minutes when she is expecting. Not maternity. Not her pre-pregnancy gear. Something that is stretchy, flattering and makes her feel nice. Ok.... and a few extra t-shirts for when the baby spews and while the baby has a change of clothes, mum needs a change handy too. Online shopping is your friend here as it can be cheaper and delivered so babies sleep times aren't an issue.

Your money is spent more wisely after baby is born.

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2016, 05:42:21 PM »
Everyone has already given you pretty solid advice. Buy used everything. Hell, we bought a used breast pump for child #2 and it worked like a dream. $50 instead of $300 - yes please. Outside of that, your baby will let u know what it wants and when it wants it. Baby doesn't care about new things & name brands.

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #40 on: November 17, 2016, 05:56:56 AM »
If you ever get tempted to buy something for future use (like a sitting toy for a baby that can't even roll over yet), think about if it will still be available when you'll need it. The answer is almost always yes. I did get some free/cheap stuff from a coworker, so in that case the question was "Will I ever be able to get a swing and a bouncer and a push-walker-thing for thirty bucks? And a ton of free clothes that may or may not be my style?" In that case the answer was no so I stored them away for future use.

One thing I tried to do in regards to toys was, because kiddo is in day care, I try not to buy anything that has a very short window of usefulness that day care already has. The bumbo chair is an example. It's for babies that are starting to figure out sitting but aren't strong enough to sit completely unsupported. My kid needed it for maybe two months? For stuff at home I researched (aka asked other parents) what toys have the best longevity and I've also gotten lucky with what's been bought for us.

Also the more I talk to other parents, the more I hear the counter balance of "Oh that thing? Yeah I know it's supposed to be the Best Thing EVAR but my kid hated it, so that was a waste of $35."

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Re: Help me not get caught up in being a "new parent"
« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2016, 07:31:43 PM »
A lot of good advice here.  The only thing I would add is that you should remind yourself to laugh at the absurdity of the Baby Industrial Complex, because it really is funny.  Baby wipe warmers? Nanny-cams? Multiple strollers for different terrains?

Babies are simple creatures.  They want to eat, sleep, poop, cuddle, and play.  Don't waste your money on things that don't cater directly to those wants.