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Has anyone used Amtrak to travel?
« on: March 21, 2019, 04:16:07 PM »
The Mr and I have been doing some research on ways to travel the country.  We're in the semi-retired-half-way-to-pulling-the-plug-on-main-careers path right now and want to take some extended trips to the national parks.  We've seen some tour packages with America by Rail and Amtrak Vacations but just thought we'd ask this group at large if anyone had any experience.  Any recommendations? Things to avoid?  Things to be aware of?

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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2019, 04:59:19 PM »
The Mr and I have been doing some research on ways to travel the country.  We're in the semi-retired-half-way-to-pulling-the-plug-on-main-careers path right now and want to take some extended trips to the national parks.  We've seen some tour packages with America by Rail and Amtrak Vacations but just thought we'd ask this group at large if anyone had any experience.  Any recommendations? Things to avoid?  Things to be aware of?
Have seen those tours and thought about them.  Never used them.

About 10 years ago, my MIL and her best friend took Amtrak from NY to CA.  It took about a week.  They stopped at several places along the way, and each "leg" was close to 24 hours, I think.  (I could look it up.  Too lazy.)  NY to Chicago.  Then on to Montana - they had a good friend there, so stayed a couple of days.  Next, onto Oregon, where the friend's son, DIL, and grandchildren lived.  Stayed a few days.  Then down to SoCal, stayed with us a few days.  Flew home.  It was about $400 per ticket.  I think they had a grand old time.

So, a few months later, we decided to go visit friends in NM with our 3 yo son.  It was ... okay.  We left on Christmas, so it was busy.  SoCal to NM is boring - all the "fun" parts that would be pretty, you hit at night.  It took 24 hours.  The seats are big and comfy, but we ended up next to the door, and people kept going in and out alllll night, and it was cold, and the door slammed.  The food sucked.  If we ever did it again, we'd totally get a bedroom.  But they cost a lot more.  I found it pretty stressful getting there, and hard to get any rest.  Coming home was also 24 hours.  And...3 yo was asking a LOT of questions.  We were tired.

I have another friend in his 50s who takes Amtrak from So Cal to DC and back every year.  He gets a bedroom also.

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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2019, 04:59:50 PM »
I used to take the Coast Starlight (LA-Seattle) regularly.  I also used to regularly use Amtrak to go from DC to Raleigh, NC.  In both cases I would say the trains themselves were fine, much more comfortable than air travel (leg room!! Get up and use the bathroom at any time!) and safer/less stressful than driving.  In both cases there were often delays, sometimes of more than an hour.  Since I was never trying to connect to another train or get to town for something that started at a specific time, this was not the end of the world, but I could see it driving some people nuts.  I think it was probably more annoying for the people picking me up than it was for me. If you have the time to accommodate the Amtrak timetable, it's a great way to travel.


My in-laws also did a longer trip (Chicago to SF) a few years back and enjoyed it.  I think they got a room.

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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2019, 05:08:28 PM »
I have done more Amtrak travel than I can count. Routinely take the empire builder btw chicago and upstate ny in coach.   Have taken auto train from florida to DC and LA to Paso robles is just stunning.  It is often a better value than flying,  if you sleep in coach which I nearly always do.   I don't do the vacation packages.  I love the observation cars.

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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2019, 06:38:12 PM »
Yes, I've traveled many times by Amtrak (including some trips in the sleeper car).  If you're not in any hurry, it's the perfect way to see the country, just sitting back and watching the landscape unfold from one region to another.  Much more scenic than the highways.

If you're considering making stops along the way, you may end up boarding at 3am or other odd times of night, since that's just when the train happens to pass through. You can create a schedule for stops at more regular times, but it might limit where you end up getting off/getting on.

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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2019, 09:00:40 PM »
I love Amtrak.  The trains are bigger and roomier than European trains with on board service that is nearly as good.  They can be slow which can be annoying but allows longer scenic views.  My only gripe is that for me it doesn't always work out that well for me.  Half the time I've had trains cancelled, break down, or delayed for various stupid reason.  Management uses the airlines' policy on such matters: lie through their teeth about status until the last possible moment.  This is my experience with west coast trains though.

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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2019, 09:21:58 PM »
I was a first time Amtrak user last fall. I travelled from Seattle to Utah. I switched trains in Sacramento.

I thought it was a lovely way to travel, being FIREd and not in a hurry at all.

2 free checked bags and 2 onboard bags. Roomy seats. Panoramic dome cars. Get to travel overnight and not pay for a hotel.

I travelled alone and had great conversations with strangers. I even met a lady that read FI blogs and her husband was stunned there was someone else out there other than his wife that read about FI. She was trying early retirement and they had recently downsized their expensive lives in LA to a cheaper place in CA.

I am looking to do it again soon and just ordered an Amtrak credit card to get bonus points. I think their current offer ends in April.

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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2019, 07:13:20 AM »
I love Amtrak! I wish more people would take it so it gets more funds for improvement and expanded train frequencies/locations. I regularly take the Hiawatha from Chicago to Milwaukee. That’s a short commuter train (1.15 hours) and is fantastic. It runs every couple couples and is almost always on time and has WiFi. Even the car centric in-laws have started to take it to visit us instead of driving down, because they realized how much more relaxing it is and that it’s a wash with tolls+fuel+parking. I’ve taken the Boston to NYC commuter train (slow one not Acela) a few times and I enjoyed that one too.

I also frequently take the long distance empire builder but only from Chicago to LaCrosse WI (about 5 hours when on time). That train is always late. It’s usually on time leaving Chicago, but a couple hours late coming back from the west coast because it’s more effected by weather and freight traffic. Sometimes it’s very, very late like 5+ hours. Last trip had a major snowstorm and I was 16 hours late, supposed to arrive 5pm and got in at 9:15 am. There was a train derailment + two 20+ car pile ups on the interstate that prevented to freight train crew from pulling the derailed train off the track. To be fair both the interstate and highway was closed, so it’s not like a car could have got me to Chicago any faster and definitely not any safer. Plus side when it’s that late you get free food and can call Amtrack to have them refund your entire trip (not just that leg). I still take and recommend the train to LaCrosse over driving because it’s cheaper (than renting a car, paying tolls and fuel), I hate driving, and it’s much more relaxing way to travel. But lesson is never do long distance Amtrack when you’re in a time crunch or need to be somewhere at specific times. Give yourself an extra day, where you don’t plan on anything the day after you arrive, so your not stressed about missed reservations.

The empire builder has a great observatory car that I love, snack counter, and dining car. Snack food is typical concession stand type food and fine, dining car food with overpriced mediocre food. Pro-tip you can bring your own food and beverages (including adult) and eat/drink them in observatory car. For long distance, I’ve tried the sleeper car once when it was randomly cheaper than seats. It was a roomette and tiny. I think the beds would be nice for overnights. I’ve slept over night in coach twice, which is rough but doable. The coach seats are roomy and recline a lot with footrests, plus plenty of space between seats. But you can’t lay flat so it’s still uncomfortable to sleep. If you do a roomette pack your carry ons (one each) light and in squishable backpacks or duffle bags, because they go under your seats and not a ton of room. There’s more room for baggage in coach oddly enough. I’ve never checked bags so can’t speak to that process. No WiFi on long distance trains. And yeah very wierd hours for stops at certain places and only one train a day, so you better not miss it!

I wouldn’t do the packages though personally, because I like to do my own thing and it’s usually cheaper to books things independently. Just buy the train tickets through Amtrak online then look for hotels separately. Note that long distance trains the prices go up the closer to departure date. You can book almost a year in advance and the earlier you book long distance the cheaper it will be (sometimes $200+ different for my 5 hour train ride). For our Milwaukee-chicago commuter Amtrak train, the prices are always the same (or differ by literally $2) no matter when you book, 1 year or 1 hour in advance.

In short, if you have time to take the train it’s great and eco-friendly, so do it! If you don’t have much time, it’ll stress you out (unless you’re taking the short commuter trains that have good on-time rates). I plan on doing the long distance trains to travel to the national parks someday when I have more vacation time.

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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2019, 07:15:24 AM »
I used to take the Coast Starlight (LA-Seattle) regularly.  I also used to regularly use Amtrak to go from DC to Raleigh, NC.  In both cases I would say the trains themselves were fine, much more comfortable than air travel (leg room!! Get up and use the bathroom at any time!) and safer/less stressful than driving.  In both cases there were often delays, sometimes of more than an hour.  Since I was never trying to connect to another train or get to town for something that started at a specific time, this was not the end of the world, but I could see it driving some people nuts.  I think it was probably more annoying for the people picking me up than it was for me. If you have the time to accommodate the Amtrak timetable, it's a great way to travel.


My in-laws also did a longer trip (Chicago to SF) a few years back and enjoyed it.  I think they got a room.

I did the Raleigh to DC train about 14 years ago, it was AWFUL. It’s about a 4.5 hour drive and it took 15 hours on the train. I also somehow ended up next to a crying homeless man for the last hour of the trip. Never again. I rented a car for the trip back and forfeited my return ticket.

I keep thinking that maybe it’ll be better and that I should try it again, but none of the factors that caused the delay have been fixed. The trains are still slow and the tracks are still shared with freight trains that have priority, so the passenger trains are going to have to keep getting off the tracks to make way for them.  The US is not Europe when it comes to trains, unfortunately.

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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2019, 07:26:50 AM »
I LOVE to travel by train, with 1 exception.  If you need a rental car when you get to your destination make sure you research the rental car location and hours very well!

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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2019, 07:45:40 AM »
I love the train, and I hate to fly. The train is slow but comfortable.

I always get a room for anything overnight. You get special boarding, the porter handles all your luggage, and it includes all your meals.

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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2019, 08:05:20 AM »
Is traveling by train cost effective?

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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2019, 08:24:36 AM »
I'm taking my first Amtrak next week! Heading down to Boston from Maine, a 2 hour trip more or less. So probably faster than dealing with Boston traffic. The Amtrak station is a 20 minute walk from my apartment.

And for the 2 of us, it was $50 one way. So probably cheaper if you're alone, a wash if you're traveling as a pair, and pricier if you're a family.

Also you can use the internet, work, etc while on the trip.

It seems to me anything in a <3 hour drive is likely worthwhile doing on Amtrak. Anything longer, and you're probably better off flying as both cheaper and faster.

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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2019, 08:46:42 AM »
If you aren't on a tight schedule and don't mind occasional delays, Amtrak is great.  I much prefer an Amtrak train to flying, even if it takes a little bit longer.  In my experience, the coach seats on Amtrak are bigger and more comfortable than first-class seats on domestic United flights.  I generally bring cheese/nuts/snacks and wine, and just enjoy the trip.  All the seats have electrical outlets, and many trains even have wifi.  When I FIRE, I have dreams of taking a cross-country adventure trip via amtrak/slow-travel.

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« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2019, 08:56:50 AM »
Amtrak has gotten better about allowing bikes on board. In the past non-folding bikes were required to be boxed.

Now trains with baggage cars can accommodate un-boxed bikes and some other trains have been retrofitted to allow bikes.

Last year I biked from Philly to St. Albans Vt and took the train back..

I've also taken my bike on the train from Charlottesville and Raleigh to Philadelphia.

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« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2019, 09:43:34 AM »
Amtrak is reasonably priced if you're able to purchase your tickets ahead of time. 

It also has a good rewards program--I take the train a lot for work and have accumulated a lot of free trips. 

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« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2019, 09:49:19 AM »
Took Amtrak to/from NYC several times. Note that there's an engine switch in DC, which is a major source of delays if you're coming from points South; within the NE Corridor things went much smoother.

The first time I made the mistake of checking my suitcase (some long haul train routes allow this); total waste of time, as the trains I've ridden on have always had plenty of luggage space.

I also rode the Crescent all the way down to New Orleans, with a stop in Alabama to see my brother. A long ride (about 24 hours altogether), but much more comfortable than an airplane so it was fine.
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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2019, 09:53:38 AM »
We like it.  We are taking the train to New Orleans this fall to go an a cruise to celebrate my 50th.

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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2019, 11:18:50 AM »
Add me to the love of traveling by train. Amtrack is fine. I love it more in Europe.

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« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2019, 11:30:11 AM »
Love the train for anything under 5 hours. I like to fly into Chicago Midway and take the train to Kalamazoo, although it is only cost-effective when I'm by myself - if my wife is coming, we'll usually rent the car in Chicago and drive. Took it to Detroit once as well. At least on those routes the train is roughly the same amount of travel time as driving, and I get some time in Chicago.

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« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2019, 11:36:38 AM »
Hi. Trains absolutely rock. I'm from the UK so am not an expert at your local trips but when I left Uni I used Amtrak to travel all over America and Canada for four months. It was great. I started in NYC and worked my way around clockwise. The big viewing windows are amazing especially when winding through the Rockies or somewhere magical nature wise. The experience of going to sleep and everything is green and waking up to everything being golden and red as I worked my way west is something I'll never forget.

It is slow. My understanding is that freight rules the rails. So sometimes for no reason whatsoever you may pull over in a lay by and stop. 20 minutes later a freight train may pile through and suddenly the wait makes sense. If you are impatient or don't like delays it may not be the correct choice of travel. However you obviously see so much more than flying or even when concentrating driving. It is relaxing and roomy. I agree the food isn't great.

I sometimes had to go out of my way to get somewhere because there isn't a direct route. This can make some trips even longer. Planning a route beforehand is advisable although I appreciate some like to be more spontaneous. I was able to buy several 30 day passes that made my cost per mile ridiculously cheap. These were an international pass for visitors but I assume they have something similar for domestic use. I was on my own so it was great for meeting people. I had so many conversations with people from all over America and everyone was so friendly to me. It does help when you sound like James Bond! Lots of people asked me to do James Bond quotes it was funny.

It is a very different experience to travelling by train in Europe. So if you are used to that travel and expect the same then it won't be. I would thoroughly recommend it if you are in no hurry and want to see so much of such a wonderful landscape.


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« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2019, 11:48:46 AM »
I enjoy train travel and it can be more relaxing then flying. I will say that the Northeast Corridor (D.C up North) can be prohibitively expensive depending on when you buy. There used to be more delays  seems to have gotten a little better recently.

I take the Acela from CT to D.C. for work from time to time. But I can expense that ... so extra cost isn't as big of a deal. It is very nice.

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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2019, 11:52:11 AM »
I have done more Amtrak travel than I can count. Routinely take the empire builder btw chicago and upstate ny in coach.   Have taken auto train from florida to DC and LA to Paso robles is just stunning.  It is often a better value than flying,  if you sleep in coach which I nearly always do.   I don't do the vacation packages.  I love the observation cars.

  I don't like to fly.

I am a BIG TIME fan of trains.

I've taken Amtrak  from CA to VA and back 3 times.

I like the clickety-clack sounds of the wheels and the horn's high-decibel blasts.

I like the feel of the locomotive's power especially at full throttle.

The view from the observation car is wonderful.
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« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2019, 11:55:16 AM »
As a kid I used to take Amtrak from the Bay Area to the Central Valley so my sister and I could visit family. It was slow and boring but comfortable.

Then I went to France for a year as an exchange student and rode the SNCF trains everywhere criss crossing the country, from the middle of Paris to the smallest countryside village. The only downside of those trains are that they go so fast you can’t really appreciate the countryside as it flies by at 200+km/hr.

I took Amtrak once after when I moved back to ÇA and was utterly disappointed and flabbergasted at how Amtrak is a solid century behind other developed countries. I just couldn’t bear with taking that much of a step back after getting used to spectacular trains available everywhere that went everywhere with a schedule precision you could set your watch to.

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« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2019, 12:18:59 PM »
Love Amtrak! especially in the Midlantic/NE corridor. Have taken it zillions of times between Boston and DC (and once up from Raleigh) in lots of various combinations.

Have also done various routes into Chicago (Cleveland, Indy, etc). The NE corridor ran the smoothest.

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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2019, 12:29:36 PM »
Question: we need to get from Denver to Indiana with ... a large brass instrument. The size that may or may not fit in an overhead compartment (and the laws around flying with this instrument are a little hazy) and an expensive and fragile enough item that we'd really prefer not to check it.

Is there enough space around coach seats (or, I guess, in a room) that we could keep it with us? I am definitely blanching at the prospect of 18 hours of driving, but it looks like we could take a train to Chicago and rent a car for the 4 or so hour drive to our final destination. Is there any plausible way this would work? (Note: checking the instrument is a non-starter -- see above about expensive and fragile.)

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« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2019, 12:30:22 PM »
We're taking the train into NYC for xmas this year.  My husband and son wanted to take a train trip and this was a compromise instead of the NOLA-LA trip on the Sunset Limited that they first proposed.  We'll be flying back though we may end up catching the train into EWR on the way home. 

I've heard some discussion that the new Amtrak CEO, who is an airline guy, wants to focus more on short haul commuter trips rather than long distance trips (like multiple daily trips between Atlanta and Charlotte rather than a daily NOLA-NYC).  I hope this doesn't come to pass. 

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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2019, 12:55:58 PM »
Question: we need to get from Denver to Indiana with ... a large brass instrument. The size that may or may not fit in an overhead compartment (and the laws around flying with this instrument are a little hazy) and an expensive and fragile enough item that we'd really prefer not to check it.

Is there enough space around coach seats (or, I guess, in a room) that we could keep it with us? I am definitely blanching at the prospect of 18 hours of driving, but it looks like we could take a train to Chicago and rent a car for the 4 or so hour drive to our final destination. Is there any plausible way this would work? (Note: checking the instrument is a non-starter -- see above about expensive and fragile.)
The Amtrak trains I've been on usually have a place for large luggage at one end of the car. "may or may not fit in overhead" - I'm guessing a Euphonium?

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« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2019, 01:35:35 PM »
I'm a fan of trains in general, and amtrak sort of, subject to most of the caveats mentioned by previous posters. Try to make sure your trips are mostly daytime travel, don't be in a rush, bring some fancy food, book in advance, join their frequent traveller programme, pick your routes carefully.

Lots of train nerds have posted sped-up or excerpted footage of various routes on youtube, so you can get a sense of which routes are likely to be the most scenic. I've enjoyed the daytime runs from San Jose to LA, LA-SD, Seattle-Portland, and Montreal-NYC (especially in the fall, when most days there's a dome car so you can see the leaves and mountains).

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« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2019, 04:34:30 PM »
My son and I took the Empire Builder from Portland, OR to MN last fall. It was a spectacular ride, especially going through the Columbia gorge with the sun setting behind us; and skirting the south edge of Glacier the first morning. For long distances, get a sleeper, if you can. The food was okay (helped that it came with the ticket). The other passengers were what made it fun.

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« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2019, 09:25:45 PM »
Question: we need to get from Denver to Indiana with ... a large brass instrument. The size that may or may not fit in an overhead compartment (and the laws around flying with this instrument are a little hazy) and an expensive and fragile enough item that we'd really prefer not to check it.

Is there enough space around coach seats (or, I guess, in a room) that we could keep it with us? I am definitely blanching at the prospect of 18 hours of driving, but it looks like we could take a train to Chicago and rent a car for the 4 or so hour drive to our final destination. Is there any plausible way this would work? (Note: checking the instrument is a non-starter -- see above about expensive and fragile.)
The Amtrak trains I've been on usually have a place for large luggage at one end of the car. "may or may not fit in overhead" - I'm guessing a Euphonium?

Trombone. Depending on the size case it's in and the size of the overhead space it looks like it could be tight (Although the last time I was on a train there was plenty of room up there: it'd be marginal on a plane, I think)

However, I checked, and it's an 18 hour trip. If I got us a "roomette" both ways, it'd be like $1300. Aargh!

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« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2019, 09:34:30 PM »
I took the Coast Starlight solo from LA to Seattle a few years back and it remains one of my favorite trips. The pace of travel felt very human scale. As others have noted, that does mean its best suited for trips where you don't have to be somewhere at a specific time.

I also use the train at least once a month to travel between nearby west coast cities, but wouldn't exactly call that vacation time.

By coincidence, the NYT magazine has a feature on traveling across the country by train. Written by Caity Weaver, one of my favorite newspaper writers. She has a distinctive style that may not be to your taste! But I feel like she captures the experience fairly well: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/03/20/magazine/train-across-america-amtrak.html


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« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2019, 09:44:07 PM »
Denver > SF is apparently the route to beat for views. Haven't done it (just watched videos) but it's definitely on the list.

LA > Seattle doesn't look too shabby either.
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« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2019, 11:33:16 PM »
I can vouch for LA to ‘Frisco.  If you’re in no hurry it’s worth risking the hassles.  (Which may be mostly my bad luck.)

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« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2019, 05:04:25 PM »
Is traveling by train cost effective?

It depends, but yes, can be very cost effective. Probably is more cost effective for short to medium (5-6 hr) trips, and less cost effective when figuring in time for longer trips (versus flying, driving if you count no hotel needed might be cheaper).

For us traveling Chicago to Milwaukee (1.5 hours) saves a ton over car rental + tolls + fuel, and traveling Chicago to LaCrosse, WI (5 hours) saves a little to a lot over car rental + tolls + fuel depending on how far in advance we book the train. For our parents visiting us from those locations, taking the train is about a wash to very little savings (but much less hassle) in terms of tolls + fuel + parking in Chicago. If we owned a car, it would probably cheaper to drive to WI (since free parking on that end), although I’m not good at wear and tear maths since we don’t have one. But owning a car in Chicago, we would pay more each month just in parking than the average monthly train tickets home, or if we moved to a neighborhood with street parking we would eat the same or more in transit and/or downtown parking costs to work instead. Time wise it’s faster taking the train between Chicago and Milwaukee, and if the train were actually on time from LaCrosse to Chicago, it would be the same as driving (but is often slower).

I’ve also taken Amtrak Chicago to St Louis twice for work where time wise it was a wash over flying or driving, and it was much cheaper than either flying + Uber there or picking up rental car in Chicago and driving down. Two coworkers did the same trip and decided to drive because for 2 the POV mileage and train ticket costs were a wash...although they admitted when they came back that they forgot to figure in the costs for tolls (and ate that themselves).

We’ve also taken the train Chicago to Connecticut when I had more time than available cash (first year out of college), and there was a buy one get one 50% off deal that made it a lot cheaper than flying. But if you factor in the value of the extra vacation days, it would have been cheaper flying.

The big thing for making long distance trains cost effective is buying in advance because they go up by hundreds of dollars, not just a little bit, the closer to the travel dates.

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Re: Has anyone used Amtrak to travel?
« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2019, 05:08:23 PM »
Myself and my children have used it up and down the West Coast from Eugene, OR to Vancouver, BC. By European standards it is total crap, but it still beats driving sometimes.

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Re: Has anyone used Amtrak to travel?
« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2019, 05:22:22 PM »
I take Amtrak a lot between Albany and New York City. Trains can be late, but I really enjoy it. In January I was supposed to take a train from Boston to Albany. I sat at the train station for 9 hours before they finally cancelled my train and put me up in a hotel with no clear path to get home the next day. I was so disappointed in the communications between the rail yard and South Station. My husband ended up driving to pick me up because I needed to get home for an appointment. From what I know, trains are better on busy rail corridors but bad where they share the line with freight trains.

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Re: Has anyone used Amtrak to travel?
« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2019, 06:38:26 PM »
We took the Amtrak Auto Train round trip from Northern Virginia to Florida in 2006, perfectly nice. Loaded up in the afternoon and arrived in the morning. Food was excellent back then.

Also took the Amtrak Crescent round trip from Virginia to New Orleans in 2014. 24 hours, trip went well enough but the food had declined in quality.

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Re: Has anyone used Amtrak to travel?
« Reply #39 on: March 27, 2019, 01:37:06 PM »
I like Amtrak. 

I've noticed the food quality has gone done in the last few years, so I try to bring on more meals, still like to have one meal in the dinner car, if traveling solo they put you with others.  Other than that I like hanging out in the cafe car with the big windows and talking to people.

Here's what the empire builder is like:  Seattle to Chicago...  https://thehotflashpacker.com/amtrak-across-america/

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Re: Has anyone used Amtrak to travel?
« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2019, 04:15:55 AM »
I will never forget the first--and last--time I rode Amtrak.  This happened a few decades ago.  I was a college student traveling from Denver to Omaha.  The train left in the evening.  Outside of Denver, in northeast Colorado, a car hits the train. We sat for a few hours on the track in darkness.  Finally, train gets going again.  I don't remember much about the people, food, etc., probably because of it being overnight travel.  We continue to go along and it is now the next day and in daylight, when, bam!--another car hits the train just a little outside of Lincoln.  Again, we sat.  We finally made it to Omaha, but it seemed like it took forever.

Now, mind you, my father had to pick me up at the depot in Omaha, and he didn't live that close and this was long before cell phones, the ease of the internet, etc.  So, he came according to the arrival schedule that I had told him, but that had been pushed back due to the accident in northeast Colorado.  So, he drove home and then came back according to the new arrival schedule given to him at the depot, but that arrival time had been pushed back due to the accident outside of Lincoln.  So he drove home again.  He finally managed to pick me up the third time.

I've never understood cars who speed up to try and cross tracks in order to beat a train.  It's one of those things that has just been drilled into my head.  It just doesn't work.  Would I take it again?  Maybe, if I had lots of time.



 

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Re: Has anyone used Amtrak to travel?
« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2019, 08:22:42 AM »
Took the train from Denver to Albany once just for the experience. 3 days in an airplane seat is not fun. I would never do it again.

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Re: Has anyone used Amtrak to travel?
« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2019, 08:41:14 AM »
There was an article on riding Amtrak on Jalopnik a few days ago:
https://jalopnik.com/i-took-amtrak-instead-of-flying-and-it-made-me-want-to-1833533707

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Re: Has anyone used Amtrak to travel?
« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2019, 09:22:47 AM »
There was an article on riding Amtrak on Jalopnik a few days ago:
https://jalopnik.com/i-took-amtrak-instead-of-flying-and-it-made-me-want-to-1833533707

And this is why I talked my boys (both the 5 year old and the 43 year old) into taking a one-way mid-length trip instead of the NOLA-LA, 2-day trip they thought they wanted.   Though I live near a stop on the Crescent line, so NOLA and NYC are both decent destinations I can get to without having to change trains.
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Re: Has anyone used Amtrak to travel?
« Reply #44 on: March 28, 2019, 04:51:29 PM »
I was going to take Amtrak from Chicago to glacier this year for a vacation.  I am extremely clostophobic and hate to fly.  We usually drive, but Glacier was a 36 hour drive, for a 5 day trip and my vacation time was limited.  I was going to get a cabin on the train, but due to my clostrophobia I thought the roomette would be a poor choice.  I would need the large one and they are very expensive.  I actually thought it would be better for me to just go coach.  At least I wouldn't be cooped up in a small place but my husband refused to just go coach.  Plus the reviews I read were not convincing.  They talked about dirty bathroom and just OK food.  The 36 hours cooped up on a train didn't sound all that great.  So, for 400 more we opted for  2 first class air tickets (not mustachian I know.) 

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Re: Has anyone used Amtrak to travel?
« Reply #45 on: March 28, 2019, 05:42:46 PM »
I took Amtrak from St. Louis to Chicago back in 2003.  It was supposed to be a 6 hour trip, but we were 6 hours delayed leaving because the train had been delayed on the earlier leg from Kansas City.  Then the trip itself took another extra 6 hours because we kept stopping -- and often going backwards -- to let freight traffic through.   Within a couple of hours after the trip started, the sole concessions guy went on a mandatory FAA break that lasted for the rest of the trip, so there was no way to purchase any food or water for the majority of the trip.  In my car there was a nursing mother and a diabetic, among others, who really needed food and drink.  (Even those who'd packed food hadn't packed enough for an 18 hour trip, when it was supposed to only take 6 hours.)  There was an Amtrak employee on duty in the cars, but he said it wasn't his job to sell food or drinks, so we just had to deal with it.

The people who had cell phones tried calling Amtrak customer service, but they were all told, "We're sorry.  We cannot accept complaints for travel that has not been completed yet.  If you would still like to file a complaint when your trip is over, you may call this number at that time.  Goodbye."  Multiple attempts to call and explain the situation were unsuccessful -- Amtrak customer service categorically refused to do anything about a problem that is currently ongoing, since that's against company policy, and they didn't care about the diabetic or nursing mother or anyone else.

Someone eventually just broke into the snack stand and handed out food and drinks to everyone.  The Amtrak employee who had refused to help earlier noticed that this had happened, but he ignored it -- I guess that wasn't part of his job either.  Unlike one of the posters earlier, I did not get any kind of refund for this extremely delayed trip, or even any kind of apology or recognition Amtrak that this trip had taken literally three times as long as it should have.

I had a similar bad experience with Amtrak customer service when Amtrak completely botched everything on a train I took from St. Louis to Kansas City.  Again, they refused to even listen to me describing the problem while it was ongoing, since it's their policy not to take any complaints until the trip has been completed.

The seats are admittedly more comfortable than airplane seats, but I don't think it's worth it, especially since flights are usually significantly cheaper for the trips I want to make.

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Re: Has anyone used Amtrak to travel?
« Reply #46 on: March 28, 2019, 07:17:20 PM »
I want to really love Amtrak, and still use it, but my experiences have been mixed.

It's best for me to use it when going from PDX to SEA (god-awful traffic). Even then, half the time (I go once per year) I am delayed from 1-3 hours for various reasons -- waiting for freight trains to pass (they have precedence), ran over a homeless person near Seattle, escaped convicts near Kelso, wheel wasn't properly trued that caused 2-hour delay leaving Seattle (this was October 2018).

Anyway, I will still take it, and despite the delays still beats driving I-5. I once even went from PNW to Boston in 3+ days ... but wish it were more consistent on time, not even in the same ballpark as Europe. Amtrak has a rewards credit card that is pretty generous if you hit bonus sign-up ... I'm still at 13k miles, so my next 5-6 trips to Seattle will essentially be free.

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Re: Has anyone used Amtrak to travel?
« Reply #47 on: March 28, 2019, 07:30:57 PM »
I have done the St. Louis-Chicago route multiple times. It's a wonderful experience- much better than the post above from 2003. The train can get delayed but it has been much better lately- I think Illinois may have set up laws that require prioritization of passenger traffic on the rails: plus there have been numerous updates to the tracks on that corridor. If you're not in a hurry, it's wonderful. The terrain along Interstate 55 is boring and makes me sleepy, so making that long drive isn't the best option for me. The train is an awesome way to go!

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Re: Has anyone used Amtrak to travel?
« Reply #48 on: March 28, 2019, 09:08:37 PM »
I took Amtrack from Philadelphia to the middle of nowhere in the US in late 2010 and thought it was the best train experience of my trip, and I had just taken every class of train available in China, Russia, and parts of Europe over the previous 20 months. There is nothing exotic about Amtrack to an American, though. The leg room in the coach seats is absurdly huge, and they are well separated sideways. The lounge cars have gigantic booth tables, and the cars are designed with windows as the primary consideration rather than a necessary afterthought. There is nothing business-like about Amtrack, unlike other countries, because nobody involved in business would ever, ever take Amtrack. That is a plus or a minus.

The one caveat about Amtrack is that you must truly not care when you arrive, not even close. I have heard tons of stories about delays of hours and days. We arrived 45 minutes early ( ! ) to an unlit stop in a remote part of the western US with no infrastructure around save a light and an open bus booth on a night of -15 (F) temperature at 2:30 in the morning. Fortunately we apparently had a cell phone because I don't remember sitting around.

And then I began my working life. Yay.

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Re: Has anyone used Amtrak to travel?
« Reply #49 on: March 30, 2019, 09:01:45 AM »
The delays on Amtrak don't bother me, because we have really bad luck with the same thing if we fly. We have a long list of stories about cancelled connections and weather delays, and I'd rather be on the train with my book and my knitting than stuck in the airport.

 

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