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deek

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Niche-ing down in life
« on: February 10, 2025, 02:12:58 PM »
I'm coming to the realization that I think it's time to get more focused on specific things in every day life. I feel like so many things have been bouncing around in my head for quite awhile that I'm just getting mentally fatigued, and it has affected my routine dramatically. 2024 was such a whirlwind for us, and I can't remember when we have just felt relaxed in general for more than a couple days... probably our honeymoon in May, which was incredible. Because of all this, and the winter season, I have been thinking about all these random aspirations and judging myself for not being able to make time for certain things which is making things worse. Has anyone else been through this?

I think it's time to simplify things. I think what that means for me is focusing on the following:

- Being a better dad/husband each day
- Easing into being more physically fit (back to my pre-covid fitness)
- Learning how to make a simple youtube video
- Planning out my 2025 golf calendar

I think this is all I currently have the mental energy for, and I'm hoping I can get better and better at all these things as the physical fitness part becomes more of a routine.

Here are some examples of things that have been burning me out:
- Growing my buying/selling side gig
- Trying to make time for gaming
- Clutter around the house that seems impossible to stay caught up on
- A stressed out partner due to parenting challenges and job requirements
- Overthinking how to make our new home more "ours"
- Too much research on vehicles we'll hypothetically be buying in the future
- Trying to learn EVERYTHING about self improvement instead of just taking action

There's more, but you get it..

I'm looking forward to simplifying.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2025, 02:16:29 PM by deek »

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Re: Niche-ing down in life
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2025, 07:24:48 PM »
Sounds like a wise move!

Reading your list of things that burn you out, I am struck by how many of them are some kind of overthinking. The paralysis of analysis is a real thing.

About the never-conquered clutter: I am halfway through a book that I can already tell is going to be a huge help to me in this regard, Dana White's Decluttering at the Speed of Life. It starts by describing a bunch of different perspectives on clutter, different ways to make the value of decluttering clearer and more compelling. Then it goes through a very simple system that is--key point--almost infinitely interruptible, so that (a) even if you only have a few minutes to spare, you can declutter at least a little and (b) you will have made progress, rather than a new mess, if you have to stop unexpectedly.

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Re: Niche-ing down in life
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2025, 10:04:42 PM »
I’ve been decluttering for several years, and while I’ve gotten rid of a ton of stuff, somehow my house doesn’t feel much different to me.  Then someone on one of the threads here recommended The Minimal Mom on YouTube and I had an AHA moment.  I’ve spent a lot of time and effort going from TONS of clutter to only half a ton of clutter, which sounds like an improvement, but my daily experience isn’t much different because the energy it takes to live in the current state of my house is still about the same as it took to live in the previous state.  I need to get rid of MUCH more.  When I saw the state of the Minimal Mom’s house, I realized that I needed to get that drastic to truly feel a change.  All this to say that getting back to absolute basics is necessary for me for life to be noticeably easier.
I highly recommend you check out her videos.  There are a ton of them, but they are short and well identified by specific topic, so easy to pick and choose what you need/want to work on at any given time.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2025, 12:27:13 PM by SunnyDays »

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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2025, 12:25:36 PM »
This is an exceptional idea.  The modern first-world lifestyle is, at heart, an overabundance of everything.  Which is a great problem to have!  And yet the 24 hours in each day have not expanded to accommodate all of the available options.  If you try to chase all of the things that seem either necessary or desirable, you will slice and dice your life into far too many teensy segments, leaving you scattered and thus unable to either do all of the "must-dos" well or to actually enjoy the "wanna-dos" to the degree you'd like. 

I'm going to recommend for you an exercise that worked for me; obviously, YMMV.  First, list your priorities.  Then, for a week, track how you spend your time.  When the week is done, compare the two things.  Where there is a disconnect -- where you are spending lots of time on something that isn't on your priority list -- figure out why you're doing that. 

Note that the standard advice is just stop doing the things that aren't on your priority list.  And that is the ultimate goal.  But sometimes, the problem is that your priority list is incomplete.  So the first step is to check your work and complete the list.

Sometimes, you will find the disconnect is due to a priority that you had not put on the list.  Like, for example, your largest chunk of time will likely be at work.  Now, you have topped your list with being a better dad/husband (just like mine was being a good mom and wife).  For me, I felt guilty about looking at the hours at work, because it was taking away from what I said was my top priority.  But then I realized that "supporting my family" and "saving for retirement"  and "saving for college" were also very high priorities; I just wasn't considering them.  The significant time you spend at work is actually serving the very high priority of not living under a park bench, so put those priorities on the list and give yourself credit for the time you put into them.

Sometimes, you will find that the disconnect comes from a need that you haven't voiced.  For example, I did this because I was frustrated that I was frittering away way too much time on the internet instead of getting my work done -- like, I kept saying my family was my priority, but I just spent two hours putzing on the web, so I'd have to stay later to make those hours up, so what a terrible person I was!  When I really scrutinized how I spent my time, though, I realized that my whole life was filled with meeting others' needs -- I had two young kids, a husband, a house, and a job that was basically solving other people's problems.  I went from hours at work dealing with client demands, and then the minute I pulled up at daycare, I had a very-ADHD-6-yr-old and a 2-yr-old to manage, and then once they went to bed, I had house stuff and errands.  I am an introvert and need significant downtime, but I didn't have any time for that built into my day.  So when it had a chance -- like, when I could walk into my office and close the door -- my brain would just shut down and take the time it needed. 

Now, the funny thing was, I had never aspired to be the mom who cut her kids' sandwiches into pumpkins on Halloween, and yet I had still spent most of my life since my DD arrived trying to be That Person who could go 24/7 and juggle 8000 things -- and then feeling guilty when I couldn't achieve it.  But no matter how much I want to be That Person, I'm not.  And that means my choices are to spend the rest of my life berating myself for not being someone else, or figure out how to work with the who I am.  When I said it that way, I realized how incredibly stupid it all sounded and decided option 2 was the better approach.  So I instead gave myself permission to just shut off for an hour or two each night, regardless of whatever other chores needed to be done.  For you, I wonder if something like gaming falls into that category -- if it's something you really enjoy, if it serves some sort of need inside you.  Taking care of yourself is also a priority. So if gaming falls into that category for you, rather than trying to be someone else's version of a perfect you, give yourself permission to make time for that in your day. [And make sure your spouse does the same!]

The way you do that is to be absolutely ruthless with all the crap that doesn't fit into your priority list.  Anything that is on the list because it is something that "should" be done gets whacked.  "Should" means it's not something you care about, but something you're doing to meet someone else's expectations.  If that "someone else" is not your spouse, then it doesn't matter, and you shouldn't spend one more minute worrying about it.  The day I gave myself permission to never attend another PTA meeting was absolutely freeing.

Then, for the things that need to be done but you don't like, figure out what minimum level is "good enough."  Like, my yard will never be in Better Homes and Gardens, because I am not good at growing things, nor do I enjoy that.  OK, minimum standard is lawn mowed and weeds not taking over entirely -- done.  Then figure out how you can achieve that minimum required level with the least impact on your priority list.  Start with the things you hate the most.  For me, that is housework.  Cooking is fine -- it's a big chore when you've got to do it every night for 4 people, but I do enjoy cooking in general -- but mopping floors and cleaning toilets?  NFW.  So I decided to focus my minimal housekeeping skills on the food side of things -- menu planning and cooking on the weekends to prepare for the week -- and outsourced the cleaning.*  And I also had a couple of default standbys in the fridge/freezer for days when takeout sang its siren song.

Note that this is going to be an iterative process.  You won't get everything right the first time.  You'll definitely have to develop a thick skin to resist the guilt/pressure from all the people who want you to do those "shoulds."  And over time, the "must-dos" and "wanna-dos" will change, particularly as your kids grow.  But the nice thing is that if the choices you have made until now no longer fit at some point, you just re-evaluate and make a different choice.  Honestly, for me, sometimes just re-doing the exercise reminded me that where I was continued to be the best balance across all of those priorities.  There's no perfect, but being thoughtful and analytical can help focus your life on the things that are more satisfying.


*Yes, FI was a major goal, so I considered it in making that decision -- I did the math and figured out how much longer I'd need to work in order to continue employing cleaners every other week, then I decided it was absolutely worth it to work that much longer never to have to worry about that again.  Really, my level of hatred for cleaning cannot be overstated.

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Re: Niche-ing down in life
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2025, 08:25:17 PM »
Clutter is a fairly easy fix - stop buying stuff and cut any other inflow sources. I opt out of  junk mail and have all my legitimate stuff switched to electronic, so I get almost no mail. If you cut it off at the source it will take care if itself fairly quickly.

In my day to day life I only have a few priorities:

1. Reading and learning constantly
2. Maintaining basic household cleanliness and order
3. Eating really good home cooking and baking for 99% of my meals
4. Getting some exercise
5. Making sure my partner is happy

Anything else is take it or leave it.

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Re: Niche-ing down in life
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2025, 05:37:39 AM »
Clutter is a fairly easy fix - stop buying stuff and cut any other inflow sources. I opt out of  junk mail and have all my legitimate stuff switched to electronic, so I get almost no mail. If you cut it off at the source it will take care if itself fairly quickly.

In my day to day life I only have a few priorities:

1. Reading and learning constantly
2. Maintaining basic household cleanliness and order
3. Eating really good home cooking and baking for 99% of my meals
4. Getting some exercise
5. Making sure my partner is happy

Anything else is take it or leave it.

This sounds like my list, can you tell me how you opt out of junk mail?

@Laura33 thank you for sharing that tracking technique. Something that's been on my mind more and more lately is our ingrained Protestant work ethic in the US. I appreciate the curiosity you illustrated with your example asking yourself why you were scrolling instead of immediately chastising it (and shaming yourself) as a waste of time. In the book Complex PTSD by Peter he write, "we are human beings not human doings". I love that. 

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Re: Niche-ing down in life
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2025, 07:59:28 AM »
Clutter is a fairly easy fix - stop buying stuff and cut any other inflow sources. I opt out of  junk mail and have all my legitimate stuff switched to electronic, so I get almost no mail. If you cut it off at the source it will take care if itself fairly quickly.

In my day to day life I only have a few priorities:

1. Reading and learning constantly
2. Maintaining basic household cleanliness and order
3. Eating really good home cooking and baking for 99% of my meals
4. Getting some exercise
5. Making sure my partner is happy

Anything else is take it or leave it.

This sounds like my list, can you tell me how you opt out of junk mail?

In Canada you just put a red circle/dot sticker inside your mailbox and then you don't get any crap. I don't know how not n works in other places.

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Re: Niche-ing down in life
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2025, 08:24:39 AM »
@Laura33 this is so greatly appreciated. I'm going to take some more time to break down your advice and see what all of that means for me. Especially going to explore the possibility of hiring cleaning help - maybe not right now, but in the future. Thanks so much.

@AMandM analysis paralysis is definitely real with me. I've battled it for years, and it's gotten a little better with time. Breaking out of this has become a little bit harder while learning how to be a dad too. Thanks for your insight!

@SunnyDays Thanks for the recommendation. I've identified already that I need to be a little more hardcore with what I'm getting rid of. But I don't want to rush it and stress myself out. We've already accomplished a lot as far as getting rid of things we don't need. I'm optimistic that in a year's time, the amount of useless crap we have will be noticeably less.

@Zikoris Thanks for the note on junk mail, I haven't thought much about that.

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Re: Niche-ing down in life
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2025, 09:54:59 AM »
In Canada you just put a red circle/dot sticker inside your mailbox and then you don't get any crap. I don't know how not n works in other places.

In most areas of the US I don't think this would work. Like others have said in the thread, the local post offices get quite a bit of funding from the local businesses that buy ad space in the weekly shopper mailers and whatnot.
There does not seem to be a way to stop those, and I guess that is fine. I just think of it as a way that businesses are paying an extra tax to the post office.

There is something that can be done about the unsolicited credit and insurance offers.
https://www.optoutprescreen.com/
The site is legit. It's linked on this article on the FTC site.
https://consumer.ftc.gov/articles/how-stop-junk-mail

Oddly enough, I must have signed up for this just over 5 years ago because I got a Discover card offer in the mail last week. And I still haven't forgotten the unique, glossy feel of their envelopes. Time to renew I guess.

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Re: Niche-ing down in life
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2025, 10:19:21 AM »
In Canada you just put a red circle/dot sticker inside your mailbox and then you don't get any crap. I don't know how not n works in other places.

In most areas of the US I don't think this would work. Like others have said in the thread, the local post offices get quite a bit of funding from the local businesses that buy ad space in the weekly shopper mailers and whatnot.
There does not seem to be a way to stop those, and I guess that is fine. I just think of it as a way that businesses are paying an extra tax to the post office.


Not sure how the rest of the US is, but the way our mail is so poorly managed and delivered as is, I would not trust our postal service to employ a level of competence to differentiate between junk mail and something critical.

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Re: Niche-ing down in life
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2025, 01:54:54 PM »
Clutter is a fairly easy fix - stop buying stuff and cut any other inflow sources. I opt out of  junk mail and have all my legitimate stuff switched to electronic, so I get almost no mail. If you cut it off at the source it will take care if itself fairly quickly.

In my day to day life I only have a few priorities:

1. Reading and learning constantly
2. Maintaining basic household cleanliness and order
3. Eating really good home cooking and baking for 99% of my meals
4. Getting some exercise
5. Making sure my partner is happy

Anything else is take it or leave it.

This sounds like my list, can you tell me how you opt out of junk mail?

In Canada you just put a red circle/dot sticker inside your mailbox and then you don't get any crap. I don't know how not n works in other places.

Wow that's cool you can do that. I'm in the states and we don't have that option, boo. Thanks @JimDogRock I will def check it out!

@use2betrix that's stinks. I've lived in several different states/regions in the US and US mail has always been really good for us though we've never lived in a super rural place (not sure if you are or not)

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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2025, 03:30:34 PM »
I appreciate the curiosity you illustrated with your example asking yourself why you were scrolling instead of immediately chastising it (and shaming yourself) as a waste of time.

Well, just to be clear, this was after about 20 years of chastising myself.  Some of us are slower on the uptake than others.  ;-)

@AMandM analysis paralysis is definitely real with me. I've battled it for years, and it's gotten a little better with time. Breaking out of this has become a little bit harder while learning how to be a dad too. Thanks for your insight!

If you think about it, every minute you spend waffling over one problem is a minute you could have spent with your kid, or your spouse, or on a hobby.  Does that help?  The nice thing about doing the minimum necessary is that it frees up sooooo much more time to do funner things.  And really, what isn't more fun than sitting and spinning?

Why you need to get everything right the first time is a good thing to quiz yourself on.  For me, it came from scarcity -- i.e., if we went out to dinner, I adored getting dessert, because we never had it at home.  Which was fine when I was 8, but when I was 38 and eating out/getting takeout often and still getting dessert as a special treat, it wasn't so good for my waistline, you know?  For my DD, it's perfectionism and anxiety:  she had a driving need to be seen as a competent adult from the time she was 9 months old and desperately trying to walk; ergo, anything she did that was less-than-perfect meant someone might not think she was a competent adult.  The result of all that was that taking any risk, getting started on anything big where the steps weren't clearly defined, was and is incredibly difficult for her -- her college essays took for-freaking-ever to write, because she'd just stare at the blank page for hours.  Figure out what makes you think that you've always got to get it right the first time through, and that will help you figure a way to work around that.

I think a good way to approach these stalemates is to think one thing and then do one thing.  The thing you think:  this isn't permanent.  If your first choice doesn't work, you can and will make another one.  No one gets everything right the first time -- and even if you do, half the time it will end up being wrong because circumstances change.  Accept that you will be wrong sometimes, and that whenever that happens, you'll just make another choice (and probably a better one, because now you have more experience).

The thing you do:  if you've done the thinking, and your best choice still isn't clear, take out a coin, assign each choice heads or tails, and flip the coin.  When it lands, what is your first reaction?  Are you happy it ended up tails?  Great, do that.  Or are you disappointed?  Then do the other thing.  Forcing yourself to make a decision, and then sitting with how that feels for a bit, can often clarify which decision you really want. 

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Re: Niche-ing down in life
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2025, 03:36:16 PM »
In Canada you just put a red circle/dot sticker inside your mailbox and then you don't get any crap. I don't know how not n works in other places.

In most areas of the US I don't think this would work. Like others have said in the thread, the local post offices get quite a bit of funding from the local businesses that buy ad space in the weekly shopper mailers and whatnot.
There does not seem to be a way to stop those, and I guess that is fine. I just think of it as a way that businesses are paying an extra tax to the post office.


Not sure how the rest of the US is, but the way our mail is so poorly managed and delivered as is, I would not trust our postal service to employ a level of competence to differentiate between junk mail and something critical.

I have to shake out the catalogs and fliers before I toss them because my mail carrier will sometimes stuff the important things in there.

Election season was the worst. Multiple ads per day with no way to shut them off.