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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1500 on: February 12, 2017, 07:41:24 PM »
Summers at the farm,
Playing with babushka's goat.
Kittens every year.

I see what you did, and I appreciate it.

I missed the hidden message. Anyone care to share?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku

I get that it's a hauku.  I don't get the content.

Ditto.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1501 on: February 12, 2017, 07:51:57 PM »
Summers at the farm,
Playing with babushka's goat.
Kittens every year.

I see what you did, and I appreciate it.

I missed the hidden message. Anyone care to share?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku

I get that it's a hauku.  I don't get the content.

Ditto.

Oh. Well, that's all I've got. :P

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1502 on: February 12, 2017, 07:59:16 PM »
Summers at the farm,
Playing with babushka's goat.
Kittens every year.

I see what you did, and I appreciate it.
It wouldn't be happiness without a violin playing goat.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1503 on: February 13, 2017, 07:00:43 AM »
Agree with ARS, this is by FAR the best thread on this forum.
Although I have been a guest lurker for a long time I have finally made myself legit -->http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/profile/?u=31677 on the forum, but mostly to follow this thread more easily.

I suppose I am lucky that my work around the salted cured meats industry has proven to be filled with top quality folks and no working through the 'meat grinder.'

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« Reply #1504 on: February 13, 2017, 07:50:30 AM »
Agree with ARS, this is by FAR the best thread on this forum.
Although I have been a guest lurker for a long time I have finally made myself legit -->http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/profile/?u=31677 on the forum, but mostly to follow this thread more easily.

I suppose I am lucky that my work around the salted cured meats industry has proven to be filled with top quality folks and no working through the 'meat grinder.'
Pastrami is the most sensual of the dried, salted meats.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1505 on: February 14, 2017, 06:50:18 AM »

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« Reply #1506 on: February 14, 2017, 07:57:26 AM »
I would love to hear a story from one of these people.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-13/one-reason-staffers-quit-google-s-car-project-the-company-paid-them-so-much

Are any of you here?

I thought the exact same thing when I saw that in the news this morning.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1507 on: February 14, 2017, 11:14:16 AM »
I am so happy that Hamlet has a safe and happy home with you. I almost couldn't read your whole post once it became clear that some sort of abuse might've occurred. Heartbreaking. That poor kitty.

And..... I live in Chicago, and have had occasion to avail myself of the kitty ER on a few occasions. I've never gotten anything but wonderful treatment there, but knowing that their corporate overlords would pull that sort of thing does give me pause, I admit.

(Also wondering who the regular Angry Vet who sends them all the business is, though I understand why you wouldn't want to say. My vet owns the practice and is female so at least I know it's not mine!)

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« Reply #1508 on: February 19, 2017, 09:23:13 PM »
I would love to hear a story from one of these people.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-13/one-reason-staffers-quit-google-s-car-project-the-company-paid-them-so-much

Are any of you here?

I'm a former Googler. Worked there 8 years. Pretty much FI at this point but I am still working for another couple years I think.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1509 on: February 19, 2017, 09:36:21 PM »
This is not my story, but an epic FU money (or really an epic FU skill set) story published via a blog:
https://www.susanjfowler.com/blog/2017/2/19/reflecting-on-one-very-strange-year-at-uber

I think I'll pass on ever traveling via Uber again . . . most of their drivers are also on other apps anyway.

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« Reply #1510 on: February 19, 2017, 10:55:18 PM »
This is not my story, but an epic FU money (or really an epic FU skill set) story published via a blog:
https://www.susanjfowler.com/blog/2017/2/19/reflecting-on-one-very-strange-year-at-uber

I think I'll pass on ever traveling via Uber again . . . most of their drivers are also on other apps anyway.

Quite a story about a company headquartered in such a so called progressive city in a liberalish state.  If Über is really that way it's doomed. That type of environment and institutional stupidity will poison more than just work related gender issues. 

Edit: And now the story's out: https://techcrunch.com/2017/02/19/former-uber-engineer-says-company-ignored-repeated-reports-of-harassment/
« Last Edit: February 19, 2017, 10:58:11 PM by EricL »

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« Reply #1511 on: February 19, 2017, 11:35:24 PM »
Could have been epic...

There's been a ton of work drama.  I've been doing my supervisor's job for years.  But I enjoy the job, and moves were made to keep the supervisor out of my hair.  He left for medical reasons last September.  I spend the next 4 months doing all of the things.  They finally open his job once the FMLA runs out.  I have to apply for it just like everyone else.

Here's the thing.  I refuse to train a new supervisor.  If I don't get the position, I'm leaving.  I have a year's worth of expenses sitting around.  I can make more freelancing in 4 months than I can in a year at this job.  AND I have another side gig that would easily translate to a full time thing.  I tell this to the boss.  He tells his boss.  .... I get the job, at the highest pay step they can give me.

But I was prepared to clean out my office the day of the interview.  It was a good feeling.

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« Reply #1512 on: February 20, 2017, 12:06:54 AM »
^^ Hooray! ^^ Well played.

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« Reply #1513 on: February 20, 2017, 05:58:31 AM »

I'm a former Googler. Worked there 8 years. Pretty much FI at this point but I am still working for another couple years I think.

You said you used to work there.. Did you achieve FI, but then left to do something else just because you wanted to? Details please :)

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« Reply #1514 on: February 20, 2017, 08:07:00 AM »
But I was prepared to clean out my office the day of the interview.  It was a good feeling.
I don't know about the rest of you, but this is certainly epic in my book.

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« Reply #1515 on: February 20, 2017, 03:01:38 PM »
This is not my story, but an epic FU money (or really an epic FU skill set) story published via a blog:
https://www.susanjfowler.com/blog/2017/2/19/reflecting-on-one-very-strange-year-at-uber

I think I'll pass on ever traveling via Uber again . . . most of their drivers are also on other apps anyway.

Quite a story about a company headquartered in such a so called progressive city in a liberalish state.  If Über is really that way it's doomed. That type of environment and institutional stupidity will poison more than just work related gender issues. 

Edit: And now the story's out: https://techcrunch.com/2017/02/19/former-uber-engineer-says-company-ignored-repeated-reports-of-harassment/
I read this just this morning.  Ugh...

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1516 on: February 20, 2017, 03:47:11 PM »
LONG... perhaps not 'Epic', but FU money played a HUGE role. Unprecedented.  Monumental.  Big League.  FU First...  (sorry)
It sure was interesting to 'experience'... I'll use letters (A, B, C, etc) to represent company names to protect the innocent.

Two weeks ago, my manager at wireless company T dropped by to tell me that my contract date was up due to new tenure restrictions. (Been in my current role for 3.5 years - new rules say only 18 months allowed). [At the 1-year mark in this position, I decided to do an arguably un-mustachian thing, and purchase a house close to T so I could bike to work AND my son could stay in the right school district, but that's another story].  I contacted my account representative, and she added me to my firm's 'available list' immediately.  I brushed up my resume, and was sent a bunch of bench-guide documentation - since I was likely to be on-the-bench / or between gigs.  As a point of reference, the last time I was on-the-bench 3.5 years ago, I was between gigs for 3 months(!) - during that time I received a small salary, but no hourly compensation (the bread-and-butter of management consultant contractors).

That night, I went home, and crunched numbers...  With a FIRE date 14 months away, I worked with the numbers to see if I could pull the date in sooner.  With lots of belt tightening, I could ACTUALLY PULL IT OFF, and FIRE with around a 6% withdrawal rate for the first 3 years.  Still sounded risky. 
BUT... if I could SELL MY HOUSE, I'd be at or above my FIRE number TODAY.  Problem is, I didn't really want to sell the house.

The next day, joined a weekly call for people on-the-bench to hear about current job prospects, and network with other bench warmers. I found out the average 'bench time' for my firm currently averages only 3 weeks.  Not bad - maybe time for a little rest & relaxation??  I researched flights to sunny climes, and pictured palm trees, and sand between my toes...  ah!  I buffed up the resume, removed things from 10 years ago, and things looked very up-to-date. 

Thursday, I was sought-out via email about a job opportunity at coffee roaster S.  It would be a great fit, I would really like the culture, blah, blah, blah.  So my resume got submitted. 

That Friday, I was called during my drive to work about a 'perfect fit' job at culture-less wireless company A. Good money, I could save a project that was wallowing, etc.  There was also discussion about positions opening soon at software company M who had wanted to hire me 3 years ago, but weren't willing to pay the right $$.  Now things were different, and that was again a real possibility.

Last week, Monday... Tues... Weds... nothing.  No word.  No calls.  No emails.  I called my realtor on Tuesday about SELLING MY HOUSE, and starting geographic arbitrage earlier than planned. In Seattle's overheated housing market, I could net ~$200K if I sold today.  50% appreciation in just over 2 years!!  More to think about.

Weds I missed the weekly bench call - I was on a project related call.  Noon: finally heard that A would not 'show me the money', and the account rep there knew I would take a 'long sabbatical' rather than accept a lower rate.  I expressed my thanks, and realized I'm literally in One More Year syndrome - but I'll only work if the $$ is right.

Weds afternoon, after a party at T headquarters, I bumped into another account rep in-the-elevator. He said hi, and mentioned he had recommended me for a new gig, and asked for my updated resume.  He said, "Please send it", and got off the elevator. No dummy here, I got off WITH HIM instead of going to my destination.  We chatted for 5 minutes about a project manager role that would keep me at T in a new role that wouldn't be subject to any tenure / time limits.  Since it would be at the headquarters building (instead of 11 miles away in hilly Bot Hell), I would again be able to bike to work.  [Yea rolling gym!]

Thursday morning, 'elevator account rep guy' said he'd reviewed my resume, and wondered if I could pump it up to make it look more 'Project Manager-y'.  I went through, and changed the words Program Manager to Project Manager in several key places, and sent an update.  PERFECT!, he said.  When are you free to work in a new role?  March 1st, I said, but I could start immediately if I could give my current team ~10% of my time between now and Mid-March.  He said, Great. When can you interview tomorrow/Friday?.  I says:  Friday Anytime After 1pm.  He set up a Friday 1pm this-is-the-role meeting with him, and a 4pm interview with the hiring manager. 

My Friday started with a traffic slog to Bot Hell to do my current role work, followed by a lunch-time trip back home, and a bike-ride into headquarters.  On the ride in, I literally had to avoid running into my CURRENT manager on the sidewalk.  I told him why I was there, and that if it went well, I would be starting in a new role sooner than expected, giving 10% of my time to his team.  He said he was ALREADY AWARE of this plan(?), and gave me the green light.

The 1pm get-up-to-speed meet went smoothly. Rep guy gave me a heads up on which parts of my resume would pluck the right strings for the hiring manager - that Quality Manager role at retailer A... oops... (not to be confused with wireless A) - as an example.

At 1:30, I the hiring manager emailed
Can you meet earlier than 4pm?
   How about 2:30?
Great. Thanks for being flexible. See you then.
At 2:30, hiring manager bought me a nice soy-chai consumer-sucka-cuppa-pricey coffee drink, and we chatted.
   I'm a get sh***tuff done guy. Project Management isn't rocket science - a box for every thing, and every thing in it's box, blah, blah. 
When were you at retailer-A? I was there too you know.
   2005-2007. A little over 2 years. I built a team from one person - me - to 8 people.  A team that's now 85+ people spread across five continents.
Did you know person-X?
   I've heard the name.  I knew person-Y.
I know person-Y as well.  Small world.  Well... I'm not gonna lie.  We're up against a wall on this one.  We want it to ship in 15 working days, so I need you to start right away. There's a 3pm meeting to review the project, can you make it?
   Sure. When do I start officially.
Start?  You started when I saw your name on the resume. Welcome to the team.

This weekend, I called my realtor, and told him I'd be staying put for the foreseeable future.  Gotta love the flexibility of FU money. 

But it looks like I'll only have time for a weekend stay-cation... oh well.  14 months (or less) to go!

[NOTE:  earlier references to 'dog years' removed - it was a reference to working at retailer A where one year seemed like 7 years out of your life in a real cut-throat environment.]
« Last Edit: February 20, 2017, 05:58:24 PM by Mother Fussbudget »

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1517 on: February 20, 2017, 04:02:56 PM »
That's a great story, but what's with the dog years?

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« Reply #1518 on: February 20, 2017, 04:13:06 PM »
That's a great story, but what's with the dog years?

And all the quotes.  And hyphens.  Good story but that was one painful read.

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« Reply #1519 on: February 20, 2017, 04:15:41 PM »
I would love to hear a story from one of these people.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-13/one-reason-staffers-quit-google-s-car-project-the-company-paid-them-so-much

Are any of you here?

From the interview video: "These types of people... not the type of people who're gonna retire, sit around" so I guess not :(

Some of them are founding their own start ups with what they have learned at Google

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« Reply #1520 on: February 20, 2017, 11:41:13 PM »

And all the quotes.  And hyphens.  Good story. but that was one painful read.
FTFY. Loved the story, no problem following along, and I'm not the sharpest shovel in the toolshed.

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« Reply #1521 on: February 21, 2017, 01:16:42 AM »
Quote from: Mother Fussbudget link=topic=18251.msg1441068#msg1441068
[NOTE:  earlier references to 'dog years' removed - it was a reference to working at retailer A where one year seemed like 7 years out of your life in a real cut-throat environment.]

Ah... I get it now! It's funny now you've explained it.

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« Reply #1522 on: February 21, 2017, 01:31:25 AM »
Could have been epic...

There's been a ton of work drama.  I've been doing my supervisor's job for years.  But I enjoy the job, and moves were made to keep the supervisor out of my hair.  He left for medical reasons last September.  I spend the next 4 months doing all of the things.  They finally open his job once the FMLA runs out.  I have to apply for it just like everyone else.

Here's the thing.  I refuse to train a new supervisor.  If I don't get the position, I'm leaving.  I have a year's worth of expenses sitting around.  I can make more freelancing in 4 months than I can in a year at this job.  AND I have another side gig that would easily translate to a full time thing.  I tell this to the boss.  He tells his boss.  .... I get the job, at the highest pay step they can give me.

But I was prepared to clean out my office the day of the interview.  It was a good feeling.

Nice!

We want it to ship in 15 working days, so I need you to start right away.

Your next few weeks sound like hell, but congrats!  Having that FU money to be able to say "nah, I'll take a sabbatical if you won't show me the money" is so awesome.  :D

Just one more year!
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« Reply #1523 on: February 21, 2017, 08:08:42 AM »
Could have been epic...

There's been a ton of work drama.  I've been doing my supervisor's job for years.  But I enjoy the job, and moves were made to keep the supervisor out of my hair.  He left for medical reasons last September.  I spend the next 4 months doing all of the things.  They finally open his job once the FMLA runs out.  I have to apply for it just like everyone else.

Here's the thing.  I refuse to train a new supervisor.  If I don't get the position, I'm leaving.  I have a year's worth of expenses sitting around.  I can make more freelancing in 4 months than I can in a year at this job.  AND I have another side gig that would easily translate to a full time thing.  I tell this to the boss.  He tells his boss.  .... I get the job, at the highest pay step they can give me.

But I was prepared to clean out my office the day of the interview.  It was a good feeling.

Perfect use of leverage. I love it.

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« Reply #1524 on: March 02, 2017, 10:19:01 AM »
There's a good one on TheDailyWTF today:

http://thedailywtf.com/articles/it-s-no-big-deal

One or two complainypants in the comments section ("How could you possibly save enough to retire after 30 years in tech?"), but mostly supportive :)

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« Reply #1525 on: March 02, 2017, 11:02:06 AM »
There's a good one on TheDailyWTF today:

http://thedailywtf.com/articles/it-s-no-big-deal

One or two complainypants in the comments section ("How could you possibly save enough to retire after 30 years in tech?"), but mostly supportive :)

Good story, and I'm really impressed with the comments.  Just one guy really, telling the author he's an impossible outlier and his story is a slap in the face to normal people.  Then everyone else defending the author and basically saying if after 30 years in IT you're not financially secure you done f'd up.

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« Reply #1526 on: March 02, 2017, 07:17:43 PM »

I'm a former Googler. Worked there 8 years. Pretty much FI at this point but I am still working for another couple years I think.

You said you used to work there.. Did you achieve FI, but then left to do something else just because you wanted to? Details please :)

Yeah. I was basically FI, but I still had some things I wanted to do as far as working. I had never done a startup. My team spun off from Google to become an independent company in Sept of 2015. Lots of my co-workers couldn't or wouldn't take the risk and stayed behind.

9 months later Niantic Labs launched Pokemon Go. It was a risk worth taking, I think.

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« Reply #1527 on: March 02, 2017, 07:58:57 PM »
There's a good one on TheDailyWTF today:

http://thedailywtf.com/articles/it-s-no-big-deal

One or two complainypants in the comments section ("How could you possibly save enough to retire after 30 years in tech?"), but mostly supportive :)
Nice. Always a complainy pants, in every bunch.

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« Reply #1528 on: March 03, 2017, 08:22:48 AM »

I'm a former Googler. Worked there 8 years. Pretty much FI at this point but I am still working for another couple years I think.

You said you used to work there.. Did you achieve FI, but then left to do something else just because you wanted to? Details please :)

Yeah. I was basically FI, but I still had some things I wanted to do as far as working. I had never done a startup. My team spun off from Google to become an independent company in Sept of 2015. Lots of my co-workers couldn't or wouldn't take the risk and stayed behind.

9 months later Niantic Labs launched Pokemon Go. It was a risk worth taking, I think.

Paul

You are at Niantic? That's freaking awesome (never played PG, but I was a loyal ENL for a while)

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« Reply #1529 on: March 03, 2017, 10:21:08 AM »
But I was prepared to clean out my office the day of the interview.  It was a good feeling.
I don't know about the rest of you, but this is certainly epic in my book.

This!! OMG   Fantastic to read these!!! 

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« Reply #1530 on: March 03, 2017, 10:29:18 AM »
You are at Niantic? That's freaking awesome (never played PG, but I was a loyal ENL for a while)

Come back, your team needs you!

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« Reply #1531 on: March 03, 2017, 10:33:58 AM »
You are at Niantic? That's freaking awesome (never played PG, but I was a loyal ENL for a while)

Come back, your team needs you!

No they don't.  Come back and join the Resistance!

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« Reply #1532 on: March 03, 2017, 10:36:09 AM »
You are at Niantic? That's freaking awesome (never played PG, but I was a loyal ENL for a while)

Come back, your team needs you!

Players still hit me up for backup when there be creepy people following as they farm the park by my house, but I don't even have phone service anymore. And yes, when I stopped playing, I dropped all of my inventory throughout a week, meeting people and making sure my stuff was useful (including ADA's and Jarvis's). Even turned my guardian over to someone who would take care of it. I really liked being involved in anomalies, and some of the global stuff (like Operation Green Marble) is super fun, but just got too much of a time suck.

You are at Niantic? That's freaking awesome (never played PG, but I was a loyal ENL for a while)

Come back, your team needs you!

No they don't.  Come back and join the Resistance!

That ain't happening :). Frog is still a term of endearment for me, and Smurf is a tongue in cheek insult.

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« Reply #1533 on: March 03, 2017, 12:13:37 PM »

You are at Niantic? That's freaking awesome (never played PG, but I was a loyal ENL for a while)

Yeah, been at Niantic since 2012. I think I'll be here for at least another year or two. It's been pretty intense in the last year - I feel like I've earned every dollar. We have a 4 year vest for our options but I'm not sure I'll make it all the way to 2019. It's hard when you don't really need the extra money, though the work environment is good and I like my coworkers for the most part.

Glad to see we have some Ingress players on here. Personally, I'm resistance all the way, but we do have a good mix of both here at HQ.

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« Reply #1534 on: March 03, 2017, 12:16:47 PM »
Glad to see we have some Ingress players on here. Personally, I'm resistance all the way, but we do have a good mix of both here at HQ.

Are you active?  I'm curious if we know each other by agent name.

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« Reply #1535 on: March 03, 2017, 12:20:31 PM »

You are at Niantic? That's freaking awesome (never played PG, but I was a loyal ENL for a while)

Yeah, been at Niantic since 2012. I think I'll be here for at least another year or two. It's been pretty intense in the last year - I feel like I've earned every dollar. We have a 4 year vest for our options but I'm not sure I'll make it all the way to 2019. It's hard when you don't really need the extra money, though the work environment is good and I like my coworkers for the most part.


Vesting is, IMHO, one of the most reasonable excuses for "One More Year". Depending on the amount that is at stake, of course, but it could end up being "Two more years salary for one more year of work".




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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1536 on: March 03, 2017, 04:41:00 PM »

You are at Niantic? That's freaking awesome (never played PG, but I was a loyal ENL for a while)

Yeah, been at Niantic since 2012. I think I'll be here for at least another year or two. It's been pretty intense in the last year - I feel like I've earned every dollar. We have a 4 year vest for our options but I'm not sure I'll make it all the way to 2019. It's hard when you don't really need the extra money, though the work environment is good and I like my coworkers for the most part.


Vesting is, IMHO, one of the most reasonable excuses for "One More Year". Depending on the amount that is at stake, of course, but it could end up being "Two more years salary for one more year of work".

Yeah but you are on an EARLY retirement forum where it is also reasonable to leave a job early if there are better things to do with your time!  😉

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« Reply #1537 on: March 03, 2017, 04:50:11 PM »

You are at Niantic? That's freaking awesome (never played PG, but I was a loyal ENL for a while)

Yeah, been at Niantic since 2012. I think I'll be here for at least another year or two. It's been pretty intense in the last year - I feel like I've earned every dollar. We have a 4 year vest for our options but I'm not sure I'll make it all the way to 2019. It's hard when you don't really need the extra money, though the work environment is good and I like my coworkers for the most part.

Glad to see we have some Ingress players on here. Personally, I'm resistance all the way, but we do have a good mix of both here at HQ.

Cool, my wife loved ingress and we both play Pokemon Go(she is a little more active than I am XD)

As for your situation it is definitely understandable to feel like you should stay for the vesting and not miss out on the money and this will likely be completely up to yourself. If you have more than enough to comfortably FIRE with your current level of spending and current stache then you don't need the extra money and the only reason to stay is because you enjoy it or feel some kind of responsibility to stay till a certain point. If however it gets to the point where you don't enjoy the work then don't let golden handcuffs hold you back.
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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1538 on: March 03, 2017, 04:55:09 PM »
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« Reply #1539 on: March 03, 2017, 06:19:11 PM »


All in good jest :-)

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1540 on: March 03, 2017, 07:27:31 PM »
Glad to see we have some Ingress players on here. Personally, I'm resistance all the way, but we do have a good mix of both here at HQ.

Are you active?  I'm curious if we know each other by agent name.

Haven't been playing too much lately because of work, but I'm NumberSix, Lvl 15 Resistance.

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« Reply #1541 on: March 03, 2017, 07:41:45 PM »

Cool, my wife loved ingress and we both play Pokemon Go(she is a little more active than I am XD)

As for your situation it is definitely understandable to feel like you should stay for the vesting and not miss out on the money and this will likely be completely up to yourself. If you have more than enough to comfortably FIRE with your current level of spending and current stache then you don't need the extra money and the only reason to stay is because you enjoy it or feel some kind of responsibility to stay till a certain point. If however it gets to the point where you don't enjoy the work then don't let golden handcuffs hold you back.

Trust me, I'm only here because it's still fun. If that ends I'm gone.

One thing that gives me pause is the Republicans' promise to repeal the ACA. I have a pre-existing condition which will make insurance either really expensive or impossible to get if they get their way. So I can use the extra money as a buffer in case health care becomes an issue.

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« Reply #1542 on: March 03, 2017, 10:32:14 PM »
Haven't been playing too much lately because of work, but I'm NumberSix, Lvl 15 Resistance.

Doesn't sound familiar, probably different areas of the city, but Linkovich, Lvl 14 ENL if you see me.

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« Reply #1543 on: March 04, 2017, 08:57:55 AM »
Yesterday I overheard a conversation between a coworker (C) and one of the housekeeping staff (H). H mentioned that he has 3 working days until retirement, at which point I stuck my nose into the conversation to congratulate him. I had never seen him smile before, but he sure was smiling when we talked about his retirement! I wouldn't call him young, but he looks like he might be a few years younger than "normal" retirement age.

The FU money part of it is that after he walked away, C told me that H had several properties around town and had decided to retire after our company cut the housekeepers' hourly rate almost in half. I would like to think that he is a closet Mustachian. And I love the fact that just because someone empties trash cans for a living doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing with their money!

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« Reply #1544 on: March 04, 2017, 10:11:05 AM »
Yesterday I overheard a conversation between a coworker (C) and one of the housekeeping staff (H). H mentioned that he has 3 working days until retirement, at which point I stuck my nose into the conversation to congratulate him. I had never seen him smile before, but he sure was smiling when we talked about his retirement! I wouldn't call him young, but he looks like he might be a few years younger than "normal" retirement age.

The FU money part of it is that after he walked away, C told me that H had several properties around town and had decided to retire after our company cut the housekeepers' hourly rate almost in half. I would like to think that he is a closet Mustachian. And I love the fact that just because someone empties trash cans for a living doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing with their money!
I still remember the 2-3 conversations I had with an aide at the hospital when my first son was born.  I can't remember if she was housekeeping or Food service (so long ago).  She and her husband had raised 3 kids, worked hard in their manual labor jobs, and at that point, owned 3 homes in Santa Barbara - free and clear.  Buy a fixer, fix it up, rent it out.  Lather, rinse, repeat.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1545 on: March 05, 2017, 05:33:39 AM »
  Buy a fixer, fix it up, rent it out.  Lather, rinse, repeat.

 "Lather, rinse, repeat".
 I always thought that 'repeat' part was just a way for Head and Shoulders to double their sales. :-)

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« Reply #1546 on: March 05, 2017, 05:54:46 AM »
"Lather, rinse, repeat".
 I always thought that 'repeat' part was just a way for Head and Shoulders to double their sales. :-)
A bit like the increase the diameter of the toothpaste nozzle story...

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« Reply #1547 on: March 06, 2017, 07:23:08 AM »
I work in corporate training and have hit a couple walls/ceilings when hiring or promotion committees decide they want "someone who knows the business and has good training instincts" over "someone who can mine the expertise of people who know the business to design strong learning experiences." I was hired into my current department by Old Manager, who was in the latter camp and was laid off almost a year ago in an org-wide restructuring. New Manager (new to me, new to management, and new to our department) was brought in shortly after and - after getting his bearings for six months - decided that there wasn't room in this town for two of us who didn't come up through the ranks in our department.

So I've been in the job for two years with strong performance reviews (including my most recent review from New Manager himself) and New Manager decides to give me a hiring exercise to prove that I have the knowledge of our business to keep my job for a third year. Who will judge this exercise? Not him, because he's more of a noob than I am. This exercise will be judged by a peer of his who knows our department's business inside and out and will not know the circumstances of their judgment (namely, that my job is on the line). Having worked in this department for two years, I am confident I can do the exercise. My first move after getting written confirmation about the conditions of this asinine assignment is to reach out to HR and ask if this qualifies as a restructuring of my role. I was hired to do X - I've done X. It sounds like New Manager wants Y. HR encourages me to work with New Manager to reframe this exercise as a development opportunity rather than a high-stakes test. New Manager balks at any questioning of his exercise. He says he spent a lot of time dreaming up this assignment and was thoughtful in its development, messaging, and roll-out to me.  I now have all the information I need to know that this job I'm in - under New Manager - will not end successfully for me, regardless of how well I jump through this hoop he's "thoughtfully" constructed.

Thankfully, I've got a healthy 'stache (around 6x annual expenses) and a supportive partner whose job is secure, so I give notice and....here's the epic bit....one week later HR comes back and reclassifies my transition as a role restructuring. I'm leaving next month, will get paid out for 5-6 weeks of PTO in my last check, and am likely looking at 3 months severance pay given my tenure with the organization. I've got a clean narrative for my departure and am essentially pulling a paycheck through July/August. While my ego doesn't like the circumstances behind this transition, my 'stache is telling her to get over herself.

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« Reply #1548 on: March 07, 2017, 09:50:23 AM »
After graduating college, my wife and I moved to Seattle with the intent of working until we had enough to travel for a year.  She's an RN and I was a lumber trader.  After 4 years, we had our student loans paid off and found ourselves with $200,000 in the bank and feeling good financially.  My wife applied for a sabbatical and got it easily.  Having that secured, we felt confident to that we'd have work upon return so we purchased our one-way tickets to Buenos Aires.  Since trading lumber is a remarkably cut-throat and competitive industry, I figured I'd just quit my job the week before we flew out and they'd divvy up my accounts among the other traders.

So the week came and I asked to take the CEO out for coffee.  We have always had a good rapport and he could tell something was up...  I told him I needed to quit and he was like, "Why?, You moving to another trading house?"  And I explained the situation and he was like, "Whoa whoa, don't do anything drastic here! We can work out out sabbatical.  Shit man, I thought you getting divorced and moving away or had cancer or something..."  I must have been on edge I guess.

They ended up assigning my accounts to other traders on a temporary basis and upon return my accounts would be given back to me.  On top of that I was given a middling salary ($65,000) until I got my numbers back up.

After spending the South American summer months hiking, camping, and hitchhiking around Patagonia and the Andes, we shipped our camping gear to my parents' house and continued to travel North.  My wife found a great volunteering opportunity in Bolivia with an NGO hospital for a month (I joined the grounds crew) and then we continued on through Colombia.  From there we met my brother in Vietnam and continued around SE Asia for 6 weeks.  All told we were gone for 9 months... and spent an additional several weeks on either end seeing family.  We tracked every nickel and spent just over $24k including flights.

Once back trading lumber I discovered this lovely blog (2012) and we have been angling our finances toward FI ever since.  My career has continued to angle upward... we've got a couple kids now and my wife is happily working part time.  We'll probably ER here in Seattle in the next year or two... and take our girls on the road... at least in the summers.

I just thought it was an interesting story (it's about me after all...) but I also thought it could be inspiring for anyone else in a sales-type job.  "The power of quitting," as they say, even in a cut-throat industry can result in favorable outcomes.



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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1549 on: March 07, 2017, 11:27:15 AM »

After spending the South American summer months hiking, camping, and hitchhiking around Patagonia and the Andes, we shipped our camping gear to my parents' house and continued to travel North.  My wife found a great volunteering opportunity in Bolivia with an NGO hospital for a month (I joined the grounds crew) and then we continued on through Colombia.  From there we met my brother in Vietnam and continued around SE Asia for 6 weeks.  All told we were gone for 9 months... and spent an additional several weeks on either end seeing family.  We tracked every nickel and spent just over $24k including flights.


Great story!  I literally daydream about this type of sabbatical constantly.  It sounds perfect.