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Dr office won't renew rx without a visit?
« on: October 06, 2020, 10:55:03 AM »
I went to an ENT for a sinus infection and sinus problems.  She said I had sinus infection, gave me antibiotics, and scheduled another appointment.   I made a thread about that here: https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/ask-a-mustachian/making-sense-of-medical-billing/

I went back, sinus infection was cleared up, but still lots of phlegm.  Dr says she thinks it's uncontrolled acid reflux.  I say I'm on medication for heartburn and have had no heartburn in years, so it's working.  She says sometimes the medication can work enough to stop the symptom of heartburn, but not work well enough to actually stop the underlying problem, which would cause the phlegm and in turn the other problems.  She prescribes more powerful acid reflux medication and schedules another appointment.

I am still a couple weeks out from my follow up appointment and my rx ran out.  I called the office to renew it, and they refused and stated that rx can only be renewed by scheduling a telehealth visit with a nurse and paying a copay.  I explained it was for an OTC heartburn medicine, I've been in for 2 appointments relatively recently, and I have a follow up scheduled in a couple weeks, but they wouldn't budge.

I understand the policy, and it makes sense for things like opiods, antibiotics, and other medications, but it seems to make less sense for something like heartburn medication where the original rx is limited to a specific quantity due to insurance restrictions. 

Am I crazy for thinking they are being unreasonable for not giving me a refill without me paying for another visit in this instance?  The medicine doesn't appear to be working, as I've noticed no change in the level of phlegm over the last 30 days, so I'm going to stop taking it when it runs out.  But if it worked, would they expect me to do a telehealth visit and pay a copay every 30 days to get a long term medication renewed each time?

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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2020, 11:04:00 AM »
My HMO requires a doctor visit, as their model requires a record of BP, heart rate and general look-see before renewing prescriptions.

The only time they waive an in-person visit is if it's possibly a contagion issue, such as during a wave of flu.

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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2020, 11:09:58 AM »
Yeah, this is likely an insurance issue. Their hands might be tied.

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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2020, 11:12:49 AM »
My HMO requires a doctor visit, as their model requires a record of BP, heart rate and general look-see before renewing prescriptions.

The only time they waive an in-person visit is if it's possibly a contagion issue, such as during a wave of flu.

Surely there are time frame requirements for this though, right? Like if your doctor forgot to fill it on the day of your visit, and then the next day you requested it, would they require another appointment?  How far out can you go and still be valid? I was just there 5 weeks ago, there are no significant changes that should affect whether I can take this medication. I run into the same problem with my regular office where my rx request is originally denied, and I have to contact my dr personally and be like "wtf man I have been in within the last 2 months, and I'm scheduled to come in later this month.  You guys likely can't even schedule me an appointment before my next actual appointment" and it eventually gets refilled, but it's a hassle. 


ETA: Also this makes no sense because it's a telehealth visit so they won't be getting any vitals, or literally anything from me.  A fucking $45 zoom conference for me to say "please renew this rx THAT I CAN GO BUY OTC ANYWAY"
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2020, 11:20:44 AM »
This is pure churning and symptomatic of how healthcare is broken. Find a doctor's office that doesn't play such games.

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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2020, 11:27:49 AM »

Surely there are time frame requirements for this though, right? Like if your doctor forgot to fill it on the day of your visit, and then the next day you requested it, would they require another appointment?  How far out can you go and still be valid? I was just there 5 weeks ago, there are no significant changes that should affect whether I can take this medication. I run into the same problem with my regular office where my rx request is originally denied, and I have to contact my dr personally and be like "wtf man I have been in within the last 2 months, and I'm scheduled to come in later this month.  You guys likely can't even schedule me an appointment before my next actual appointment" and it eventually gets refilled, but it's a hassle. 


ETA: Also this makes no sense because it's a telehealth visit so they won't be getting any vitals, or literally anything from me.  A fucking $45 zoom conference for me to say "please renew this rx THAT I CAN GO BUY OTC ANYWAY"

It's likely part of the terms of service, agreed to by the doc, to get the HMO "maintenance" payments for the not-seen patients.

They don't want to turn off the income stream from all those patients whom they never see; the HMO pays them a monthly stipend for every patient on their books.

If it's OTC, buy it yourself.

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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2020, 11:30:42 AM »
I'm confused, if it's OTC, why do you need a prescription? 

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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2020, 11:36:42 AM »

Surely there are time frame requirements for this though, right? Like if your doctor forgot to fill it on the day of your visit, and then the next day you requested it, would they require another appointment?  How far out can you go and still be valid? I was just there 5 weeks ago, there are no significant changes that should affect whether I can take this medication. I run into the same problem with my regular office where my rx request is originally denied, and I have to contact my dr personally and be like "wtf man I have been in within the last 2 months, and I'm scheduled to come in later this month.  You guys likely can't even schedule me an appointment before my next actual appointment" and it eventually gets refilled, but it's a hassle. 


ETA: Also this makes no sense because it's a telehealth visit so they won't be getting any vitals, or literally anything from me.  A fucking $45 zoom conference for me to say "please renew this rx THAT I CAN GO BUY OTC ANYWAY"

It's likely part of the terms of service, agreed to by the doc, to get the HMO "maintenance" payments for the not-seen patients.

They don't want to turn off the income stream from all those patients whom they never see; the HMO pays them a monthly stipend for every patient on their books.

If it's OTC, buy it yourself.

Right, but i'm not a "not-seen patient", I was in 8 weeks ago, again 5 weeks ago, and have another appointment this month. 

I could buy it OTC, but I'm already paying $500+/mo for insurance.  Seems unfair that I'm not allowed to use it without being extorted another $45 for no reason.

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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2020, 11:37:25 AM »
Yep, I have the same gripe (recently) with veterinary visits.

For some reason, I can't get heartworm medication OTC. I have to have a prescription for it. However, I can't just call in to get the prescription refilled. I have to take my dog in to get a heartworm test (taking the medicine, so it's going to be negative).

It's just a means to get more money out of us.

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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2020, 11:38:43 AM »
I'm confused, if it's OTC, why do you need a prescription?

Because I already pay out the ass for health insurance for things like prescriptions.  Why should I pay OTC retail prices in addition to my $6k/yr premiums?

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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2020, 11:57:14 AM »
I think it's reasonable.  A renewal is different from a refill.

A doctor is liable for the medications they prescribe you. A visit, even a telehealth visit, establishes that you still need the medicine.  Patients should not be the ones who determine if they need medications.

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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2020, 11:58:55 AM »
I had a doctor that played weird games like this, with the added benefit of not returning calls to the pharmacy or me, or explaining what was going on or why he wouldn't do the refill. There was no insurance reason or any other reason, he was just an ass or trying to drum up business or both. He insisted on seeing me and doing blood work every three months "just in case" and wouldn't prescribe anything for more than 90 days because, you know, without that blood work, it might not be safe to prescribe routine medications like the birth control pill to a woman in her thirties. (eyeroll)  I found a new doctor ASAP after I realized he was willing to let me run out of birth control in a power play over making me schedule an appointment with him (the fourth one in 7 months), and mysteriously none of these things were ever an issue again...

I can't imagine OTC heartburn medication really needs a doctor to review it every 30 days.

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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2020, 12:08:15 PM »
I think it's reasonable.  A renewal is different from a refill.

A doctor is liable for the medications they prescribe you. A visit, even a telehealth visit, establishes that you still need the medicine.  Patients should not be the ones who determine if they need medications.

I have never gotten a prescription with a refill.   They always say 0 refills, even when I clearly have to get it refilled.  I assumed this is something wonky with the insurance that prohibits them from doing a refill or something.  I honestly don't even know the difference since I never get one.

But how is a telehealth visit with a nurse going to establish whether I still need the medicine?  I called in to the office and stated I still needed it, so what new information is the nurse going to get from me?  She already has my health records, and her office is the one that prescribed it to me like 5 weeks ago.  Is she going to ask me to put my phone camera down my throat? 

I think the implication is that they were definitely going to renew it, but I needed to do a telehealth visit.  If they made me clear my schedule to do a telehealth visit, and pay the $45 copay, only to deny me a refill I would have flipped my fucking shit. 

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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2020, 12:26:02 PM »
I don’t know why your doctor has this policy, but it does not always work that way. My doctor wants to see me once/year for maintenance prescriptions , sends out a 6 month prescription and then renews it for another 6 months. I’ve gone to the same doctor for 25 years, though.

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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2020, 12:27:01 PM »
This isn't my regular dr.  This is an ENT specialist I'm seeing due to some sinus problems. 

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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2020, 12:31:43 PM »
One thing to remember is that in the USA doctors are afraid of lawsuits for malpractice. That might be it right there, especially since you have chest pain.

I'm confused, if it's OTC, why do you need a prescription?

Because I already pay out the ass for health insurance for things like prescriptions.  Why should I pay OTC retail prices in addition to my $6k/yr premiums?

Also, the prescription makes it eligible for FSA reimbursement when it otherwise would not be.

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« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2020, 12:44:14 PM »
Yep, I have the same gripe (recently) with veterinary visits.

For some reason, I can't get heartworm medication OTC. I have to have a prescription for it. However, I can't just call in to get the prescription refilled. I have to take my dog in to get a heartworm test (taking the medicine, so it's going to be negative).

It's just a means to get more money out of us.

Or maybe there's a good reason that you're not aware of? Like irresponsible pet owners who DON'T give the meds regularly, and the dog does get heartworm, and if you give them the preventative it can actually cause the dog to die.

https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/animal-health-literacy/keep-worms-out-your-pets-heart-facts-about-heartworm-disease

Remember, warning labels aren't there for the smart people. Sometimes these policies exist for very good reason.

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« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2020, 01:02:22 PM »
One thing to remember is that in the USA doctors are afraid of lawsuits for malpractice. That might be it right there, especially since you have chest pain.

I'm confused, if it's OTC, why do you need a prescription?

Because I already pay out the ass for health insurance for things like prescriptions.  Why should I pay OTC retail prices in addition to my $6k/yr premiums?

Also, the prescription makes it eligible for FSA reimbursement when it otherwise would not be.

No chest pain.  No heartburn for years.  Dr thinks my acid reflux is technically untreated and I am getting reflux up into my throat, which is affecting my sinuses and giving me excess phlegm, even though my heartburn is completely under control from an "experiencing heartburn" POV.   I take omeprazole btw.  She prescribed pepcid and made it a point to tell me how safe it is, and that I don't even need to stop taking my regular medication, just take this on top of it and it is no problem, it's totally safe and you can even buy it OTC.   Her casual and dismissive demeanor are at complete odds with the notion she is concerned about malpractice or drug interactions. 

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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2020, 01:33:27 PM »
Sounds like a badly managed practice. 

But if it's pepcid, just go buy 3 months worth for ~$15 at the CVS or Walgreens.

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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2020, 01:50:01 PM »
I've had to come in for a refill of ear infection drops. In the winter I'm in the ocean all the time and get them like clockwork. It seemed like a waste of everyone's time but I was told it could hide something more serious and they wanted to take a look inside my ear first. I'm not qualified to judge whether they're right or not, so ultimately it's not worth dwelling over.

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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2020, 01:57:51 PM »
I've had to come in for a refill of ear infection drops. In the winter I'm in the ocean all the time and get them like clockwork. It seemed like a waste of everyone's time but I was told it could hide something more serious and they wanted to take a look inside my ear first. I'm not qualified to judge whether they're right or not, so ultimately it's not worth dwelling over.

That sounds like a wildly different scenario than refilling my pepcid rx 1.5 weeks ahead of my next follow up appointment. 

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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2020, 02:17:57 PM »
My insurance is through Aetna, and I fill my scripts at CVS (which owns Aetna now.)
For maintenance medications, I don't have to do anything to get them renewed.  Literally don't have to do anything.  The pharmacy will automatically call my doctor to get authorization for the renewal -- completely unprompted by me.  This usually happens even when I still have like 15 days left on my 90-day supply.  I just get a text message from CVS to come and pick them up.  It's seamless.  I've never had to see my doctor to simply get a script refilled or to re-check-in on a maintenance condition.  I do have my regular annual physical though, where the doc checks things out.

@OP I'm sorry your situation is so miserable.  Maybe try calling the insurance company and ask them some advice?  See if you can find out if it is some rule that is imposed by the insurance company.  If not, I'd seek out other doctor(s) who are more flexible.

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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2020, 02:29:24 PM »
I've had to come in for a refill of ear infection drops. In the winter I'm in the ocean all the time and get them like clockwork. It seemed like a waste of everyone's time but I was told it could hide something more serious and they wanted to take a look inside my ear first. I'm not qualified to judge whether they're right or not, so ultimately it's not worth dwelling over.

That sounds like a wildly different scenario than refilling my pepcid rx 1.5 weeks ahead of my next follow up appointment.

I'm kind of in shock your insurance covers things that are available over the counter; but why not just BUY IT OTC and wait 1.5 weeks for your next appt, and then get the prescription?

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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2020, 02:36:53 PM »
Is Kaiser an option for you for next enrollment period? Their incentive is to keep you healthy as efficiently as possible, not this ridiculous fee-for-service model that incentivizes intervention and office visits, as you are seeing.

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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2020, 02:46:55 PM »
I've had to come in for a refill of ear infection drops. In the winter I'm in the ocean all the time and get them like clockwork. It seemed like a waste of everyone's time but I was told it could hide something more serious and they wanted to take a look inside my ear first. I'm not qualified to judge whether they're right or not, so ultimately it's not worth dwelling over.

That sounds like a wildly different scenario than refilling my pepcid rx 1.5 weeks ahead of my next follow up appointment.

I'm kind of in shock your insurance covers things that are available over the counter; but why not just BUY IT OTC and wait 1.5 weeks for your next appt, and then get the prescription?

Why would that shock you? Never been prescribed motrin or something similar?

I thought I already covered why not buy it OTC - because I've already paid for 2 visits to a specialist with a 3rd appointment coming up in less than 2 weeks, and I pay over $6k/yr in medical insurance premiums.  Part of the benefit of having medical insurance is the fixed (and reduced) price for rx.  Since all of those are already sunk costs, the cost of buying it via rx is a fraction of the cost of buying it OTC, so I would go that route if I could.  Factoring in an additional office visit skews the calculation though.

Is Kaiser an option for you for next enrollment period? Their incentive is to keep you healthy as efficiently as possible, not this ridiculous fee-for-service model that incentivizes intervention and office visits, as you are seeing.

I had like 4 options to choose from, but they are all variations in blue cross blue shield.  As long as I work at my current employer I am stuck with this insurance.

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« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2020, 02:48:25 PM »
I've had to come in for a refill of ear infection drops. In the winter I'm in the ocean all the time and get them like clockwork. It seemed like a waste of everyone's time but I was told it could hide something more serious and they wanted to take a look inside my ear first. I'm not qualified to judge whether they're right or not, so ultimately it's not worth dwelling over.

That sounds like a wildly different scenario than refilling my pepcid rx 1.5 weeks ahead of my next follow up appointment.

I'm kind of in shock your insurance covers things that are available over the counter; but why not just BUY IT OTC and wait 1.5 weeks for your next appt, and then get the prescription?

This is what I'd do. I've been advised to stay on PPIs and/or acid suppressors.  My doctors are also often squirrelly about refills AND my insurance company weirdly will not cover low-dose versions of the PPIs (I only seem to need 'half' doses) without an incredible amount of back and forth with the doctor's office. So I just buy both meds over the counter and cut the pills in half.

Apart from that, do you have any issues with chronic cough, OP?  B/C I have had heartburn only a handful of times in my entire life, but developed chronic dry cough and intermittent hoarseness, and it turned out that I have reflux so bad that it's given me precancerous esophagus and damaged my vocal cords.  I don't have any of the typical risk factors for this problem (men who are overweight and smokers are high risk for it, and I'm a twiggy nonsmoking female), either, so it was a big shock, especially given the fact that  I never get heartburn. If this sinus thing doesn't clear up, a scoping might be a good idea.

I didn't even know that chronic heartburn/reflux can cause cancer, so I'm really glad my doctor sent to me to a gastro to check. Now I have to get scoped every few years as a preventative measure.

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« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2020, 03:45:28 PM »
This is a timely topic for me.  I used to get horrible drainage in the back of my throat, resulting in sinus infections. It finally stopped after I got my sinuses opened by some surgery where they use balloons. I didn't get them scraped--doc said recovery was much harder. I haven't had any problems until lately, and especially yesterday. Sunday, I ate way too much crap that made me feel uncomfortable immediately afterward.  As I was getting insane drainage yesterday, it seemed to correspond to some little burps. I actually wondered if there was a connection, and here you are with your story. So thanks. I'm not much for medication if I can help it, do I'm just going to watch what I eat.

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« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2020, 03:59:57 PM »
Just piling on that that seems weird that you need to be seen again when it's only been 5 weeks.  I was doing teletherapy with my psychiatrist a couple years back, and he only needed to see me once a year in person to keep prescribing for me.  And that was for psychoactive meds, not pepcid!  But I wasn't paying through insurance, so there's that.  So unless our states' laws are different, I'd guess it's some insurance nonsense. 

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« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2020, 04:10:06 PM »
Ok so I'm a fucking idiot.  Apparently I did have refills and only needed to call the pharmacy to get it refilled, I didn't need a renewal.  I never even checked. My normal dr gives me 90 day supply never with a refill. 

Haha, boy do I feel stupid.  Oh well, picking up my $6 rx tomorrow. 

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« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2020, 04:19:21 PM »
This is exactly why I got away from HDHPs when I had kids.  Real HDHPs don't allow co-pays, so a doctors visit is easily $140 (in my town at least), which I found myself often having to do to get the coveted "golden signature"

My daughter who had a condition that led to frequent UTIs requiring an antibiotic led to my joke about America's 140+4 healthcare, as every time she would need it we would have to go to the doc, who was our regular doc so knew the same  thing we did which was it was the same symptoms and so prescribed for an antibiotic, which cost $4 at Walmart, but his signature cost $140.

Once I started experiencing the same ridiculous loop with my asthmatic son and his occasional need for a steroid whenever he got a really bad cold, I finally ditched the idea of a HDHP and went with something with a copay. 

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« Reply #30 on: October 07, 2020, 04:34:00 AM »
Actually, I’ve never had a prescription for an OTC medication. When my allergy pills went OTC I just bought giant bottle at Sams Cub.

But I’m glad you figured it out!

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« Reply #31 on: October 07, 2020, 04:47:17 AM »
I've struggled with this for about 5 years before going to the Doctor. I found the OTC stuff didnt work and my Regular Doctor prescribed me 20MG Omeprazole . Suppose to take one pill 2xs a day but I find just one in the morning has cleared things up. Anyhow when I see him I just get 6 months of refills and since I take half it lasts a year. This works alot better than OTC because it builds up in your system and is slower release which is how it was explained to me with no long term effects. Costs me less than 5$ a month through our network which makes us buy through Walmart. Perhaps ask your doctor about this prescription, 6 months to a year at a time as its not a prescription by law you need to see a Doctor every six months for . At least worth looking in to. Good Luck!

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« Reply #32 on: October 07, 2020, 06:40:15 AM »
I've had to come in for a refill of ear infection drops. In the winter I'm in the ocean all the time and get them like clockwork. It seemed like a waste of everyone's time but I was told it could hide something more serious and they wanted to take a look inside my ear first. I'm not qualified to judge whether they're right or not, so ultimately it's not worth dwelling over.

That sounds like a wildly different scenario than refilling my pepcid rx 1.5 weeks ahead of my next follow up appointment.

I'm kind of in shock your insurance covers things that are available over the counter; but why not just BUY IT OTC and wait 1.5 weeks for your next appt, and then get the prescription?

Why would that shock you? Never been prescribed motrin or something similar?


Yes, I've never had it covered. 
I've been prescribed all kinds of OTC things (motrin, tylenol, iron supplements, couple other things), and insurance, from multiple companies over the past 20 years, has always denied it.  I've never had an HMO though.


Glad you were able to get your refill.

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« Reply #33 on: October 07, 2020, 09:24:16 AM »
I've had that (original scenario) happen before with one of my old doctors. To be fair, I was massively overdue for a followup, for a condition that warrants monitoring. Dude was busy as heck, so I don't think he was just hurting for visit money or anything. Still sucks when you run out without realizing there's an issue.

And coincidentally, I had my own Rx confusion/drama on this very same medication recently. Told the pharmacy to call my (new) doc for a renewal, even though I have yet to reschedule my followup appointment since cancelling one over the Summer. Got a refill ready notice, followed almost immediately by another notice that my renewal hadn't gone through?! Turns out everything was fine, but the doc had sent the new Rx to my old pharmacy location, and the new location didn't realize it had been filled elsewhere.
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Re: Dr office won't renew rx without a visit?
« Reply #34 on: October 07, 2020, 10:30:01 AM »
If you find that more heartburn meds aren't making any difference, I would consider post-nasal drip as being the problem, given that you had sinus issues.  Unfortunately, that needs a different prescription!

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Re: Dr office won't renew rx without a visit?
« Reply #35 on: October 07, 2020, 11:48:52 AM »

Yes, I've never had it covered. 
I've been prescribed all kinds of OTC things (motrin, tylenol, iron supplements, couple other things), and insurance, from multiple companies over the past 20 years, has always denied it.  I've never had an HMO though.


There's OTC ibuprofen (200mg) and Rx ibuprofen (800mg).  The latter I've had covered, but it's still cheaper to get a big bottle and down 4 than to get the Rx.  Same for Aleve, I believe.  There may or may not be Rx versions of the others (doubtful for Tylenol, since it's toxic in higher doses).

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Re: Dr office won't renew rx without a visit?
« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2020, 06:47:25 PM »
Maybe it’s already been asked - but why did you run out? I’ve had a prescription for years that I need to see the doctor every 2-3 months to be refilled.

I either don’t take it every day so I have some spares, or I schedule my appt a day or two before I run out. If I were to run out, I certainly wouldn’t expect the doctor to fill the prescription if they say they are unable to.

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Re: Dr office won't renew rx without a visit?
« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2020, 09:47:23 PM »
Maybe it’s already been asked - but why did you run out? I’ve had a prescription for years that I need to see the doctor every 2-3 months to be refilled.

I either don’t take it every day so I have some spares, or I schedule my appt a day or two before I run out. If I were to run out, I certainly wouldn’t expect the doctor to fill the prescription if they say they are unable to.

This is not my normal dr or my normal prescription.  I have several refills left and just needed to call the pharmacy to get it refilled, and not call the dr to actually renew the rx.

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Re: Dr office won't renew rx without a visit?
« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2020, 05:41:06 AM »
Maybe it’s already been asked - but why did you run out? I’ve had a prescription for years that I need to see the doctor every 2-3 months to be refilled.

I either don’t take it every day so I have some spares, or I schedule my appt a day or two before I run out. If I were to run out, I certainly wouldn’t expect the doctor to fill the prescription if they say they are unable to.

This is not my normal dr or my normal prescription.  I have several refills left and just needed to call the pharmacy to get it refilled, and not call the dr to actually renew the rx.
FWIW, it's been years since I called the doctor for a renewal. The last time, I was told (rather rudely) that I had to go through the pharmacy to make the request. In my most recent case, the pharmacy1 itself contacted me and asked whether I wanted them to call for a renewal, since I was out of refills.

1 Technically a bot run by the chain, which furthered some of the confusion I mentioned in my previous post, since the messages from the two different pharmacy locations were coming from the same corporate bot account.

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Re: Dr office won't renew rx without a visit?
« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2020, 08:49:35 AM »
It turns out that I can request a new prescription through MyChart.

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Re: Dr office won't renew rx without a visit?
« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2020, 05:51:25 AM »
If you find that more heartburn meds aren't making any difference, I would consider post-nasal drip as being the problem, given that you had sinus issues.  Unfortunately, that needs a different prescription!
Good point. I'm not going to diagnose in forum comments, but that anyone is taking a PPI for an indefinite period of time gives me pause.

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Re: Dr office won't renew rx without a visit?
« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2020, 06:32:34 AM »
If you find that more heartburn meds aren't making any difference, I would consider post-nasal drip as being the problem, given that you had sinus issues.  Unfortunately, that needs a different prescription!
Good point. I'm not going to diagnose in forum comments, but that anyone is taking a PPI for an indefinite period of time gives me pause.
Same.  My BF stopped taking a PPI a couple years ago when he heard about the increased dementia risk, and his gastro agreed.  He mostly controls his reflux by lifestyle changes now.

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Re: Dr office won't renew rx without a visit?
« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2020, 09:00:19 AM »
If you find that more heartburn meds aren't making any difference, I would consider post-nasal drip as being the problem, given that you had sinus issues.  Unfortunately, that needs a different prescription!
Good point. I'm not going to diagnose in forum comments, but that anyone is taking a PPI for an indefinite period of time gives me pause.

Would second that. Also reflux can occur independent of the acid content of the stomach. Would consider asking for a GI referral if you haven't already seen one, there are ways to tell if and to what extent non-acid reflux is occurring. There are treatments for it, both surgical and endoscopic that do not involve being on PPI's for life.

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Re: Dr office won't renew rx without a visit?
« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2020, 11:06:16 AM »
If you find that more heartburn meds aren't making any difference, I would consider post-nasal drip as being the problem, given that you had sinus issues.  Unfortunately, that needs a different prescription!
Good point. I'm not going to diagnose in forum comments, but that anyone is taking a PPI for an indefinite period of time gives me pause.
Same.  My BF stopped taking a PPI a couple years ago when he heard about the increased dementia risk, and his gastro agreed.  He mostly controls his reflux by lifestyle changes now.



Yes, this is definitely a concern of mine.  My original prescribed dose (as is standard treatment for pre-cancerous esophagus) was quite high, and I was supposed to stay on it for life.  But the potential side effects are of great concern to me as well.  Over two years I've whittled it down to 10 mg (micrograms?) per day, but I'd like to go lower or get off it altogether.  My gastro doesn't seem to concerned about the side effects, but didn't object to my plan to keep reducing either.