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« on: December 13, 2017, 01:44:58 PM »
have been using non-stick teflon pans mostly, would like to switch to something healthier but do not know what to get.  Tried the ceramic type(Walmart) but they're kind of sticky.  Are these copper ones any good? any health concerns? https://www.amazon.com/Copper-Chef-Round-Pan-10-Inch/dp/B01C68ADLY/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1513197781&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=copper+pan&psc=1

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Re: cooking pan recommendation
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2017, 02:15:30 PM »
We use cast iron skillets for the majority of our cooking. They're inexpensive, effective, and durable.

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Re: cooking pan recommendation
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2017, 02:29:17 PM »
We use cast iron skillets for the majority of our cooking. They're inexpensive, effective, and durable.




+1- Use iron skillet for pretty much everything as well

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Re: cooking pan recommendation
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2017, 02:45:38 PM »
We use cast iron skillets for the majority of our cooking. They're inexpensive, effective, and durable.



How do you keep stuff from sticking.  We have a cash iron pan, but we cant cook anything in it without it sticking horribly and taking hours to clean afterwords

+1- Use iron skillet for pretty much everything as well

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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2017, 02:47:42 PM »
You need to season the pan to avoid sticky messes.

Stainless steel is another option that is a bit more forgiving if/when the seasoning gets compromised.

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Re: cooking pan recommendation
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2017, 03:11:54 PM »
Piggybacking a bit here.  I have both a ~2 year old "non"-stick teflon pan that's worn out, and a cast iron skillet that I've had for 5 years and will have for another 50.  I'd like to replace the shitty teflon one soon.  I mostly use it for things like eggs that don't behave well on the cast iron, or I'm cooking something separately while the cast iron skillet is in use doing something else (the majority of what we cook is on the cast iron).  Is enameled cast iron as good as the regular stuff in the longevity department?
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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2017, 04:31:32 PM »
We keep a ceramic for frying eggs. Everything else is in cast iron or stainless steel, depending on what we're cooking. Seasoning is key on cast iron- we stripped it with sanding then used linseed oil to put a really good pateena on it. *Almost* good enough for fried eggs, but not quite. Work great for everything else we do, though.

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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2017, 05:20:52 PM »
I use the cast iron for just about everything except mushrooms and anything with tomatoes.  I use heavy stainless steel for those types of food.  Mushrooms turn black in cast iron and I just feel tomato sauce tastes differently cooked in cast iron.  My cast iron skillets are very old - I got them used.  They have many more years in them. My stainless frying pans vary in age from four years to 14 years.  They look pretty much as they did when new.  I am hard on cook ware.  I cook often and hot.  I also have two ceramic dutch ovens. I just use them for simmered meals or stove top browning and oven finishing.
I try to use the cast iron pots most frequently as it helps raise my iron levels -this is easier than taking iron supplements.
To clean all of them, I simmer some water in the dirty pan as I am starting the less dirty dishes.  By the time that I am ready to wash up the pots, the really thick layer of stuck on food will lift away with a scrape from the wooden spatula.  If not I add clean water and simmer a little longer. A wipe with the cloth but no soap on the cast iron.  I try not to cool the pan so that the heat of the pan dries it and then a little splash of oil so that it is ready for heating up for the next meal.
Stainless steal and ceramic get soaked or simmered with clean water (depending on how dirty) and then washed with soap.  I don't find they are ever hard to clean. 
I try to remove most of the food immediately when I am finished cooking because that is the easiest while it is hot.
The stainless pots are very heavy duty commercial quality - or else I burn them out.
If I have a cooking accident in the stainless - I have saved the pan by covering the burned area with baking soda and some boiled water and/or simmered them to restore the pan to new.
I have trashed a great number of pans in my adult life.  These super heavy expensive ones have lasted way longer than any pots I had before.  I was wrecking non stick ones in under a year.



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Re: cooking pan recommendation
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2017, 07:05:29 PM »
I love my Cusinart stainless steel. I slowly bought a pan at a time as an entire set is just too much for us. I own a 12” skillet, a 6 qt soup pot, and a 3 qt saucepan (all with lids). I have never needed anything else. Little tricky to do scrambled eggs in stainless but I make it work.

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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2017, 07:10:11 PM »
All about the cast iron. Now that it's properly seasoned, I'm able to cook eggs over easy with no oil.

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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2017, 07:59:42 PM »
have been using non-stick teflon pans mostly, would like to switch to something healthier but do not know what to get.  Tried the ceramic type(Walmart) but they're kind of sticky.  Are these copper ones any good? any health concerns? https://www.amazon.com/Copper-Chef-Round-Pan-10-Inch/dp/B01C68ADLY/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1513197781&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=copper+pan&psc=1

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I have one of those pans, purchased solely for making eggs. They are ceramic coated, and clean up very easily. I think that cooking more acidic things in it would wear away the coating after time, as I ran into that problem with a larger, more expensive ceramic coated set. Acidic stuff like tomato sauce, I would cook in something else like stainless steel. 

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Re: cooking pan recommendation
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2017, 12:13:37 AM »
Cooking pans and frying pans should be thick, so that heat spreads evenly throughout the cooking surface. Thick material means these pans will cost more.

Scrambled eggs can be cooked in a microwave oven.


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Re: cooking pan recommendation
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2017, 12:35:22 AM »
I have about every kind of pan, some of which are quite expensive.  My suggestion is to buy a 12" cast iron.

Read an article or two about how to season it, and how to properly use oils/heat when cooking.

The only time I use my other pans are for the following reasons:
1) stir fry -- carbon steel wok
2) acidic sauces -- stainless steel chef's pan (like Milizard posted)

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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2017, 06:23:33 AM »
I only use cast iron, a set of missmatched 6", 10", and 14" pans and a 12" wide 10" deep cast iron dutch oven.

I've found that the easiest way to clean them is to use a small pile of kosher salt in the pan and a damp paper towel, it kinda sand-papers off any stuck on bits or grease. Then rinse it all off immediately (so you don't rust the pan with salt) and dry it/heat/oil on stove till it just starts to smoke.

I use a tub of coconut oil to keep the pan oiled because it tends to solidify at room temp, and I hang my pans up for storage, so the oil doesn't drip off them. One costco tub keeps me set for about a year of cleaning, and I don't use it much for cooking.

The only thing I don't use cast iron with is large tubs of pasta sauce or chilli, i'll use stainless steel pots.

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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2017, 06:40:08 AM »
We use cast iron for frying pan stuff.  I have no problems cooking any sort of eggs so it must be seasoning.  I have a tiny cast iron pan (like 6" dia) for doing single eggs. 

We also have a full set of copper cookware which I prefer to use for things like caramelizing.  Sometimes I get annoyed working with the heavy cast iron and waiting for it to heat up where the copper stuff is like instant heat and very light to work with. 

I don't use any cast iron pots, all those are copper in our kitchen.  The only bad thing about copper is $$$$, but it's worth it for me.  Plus I love how they look, it's like getting into a Ferrari every time you cook dinner (well, almost).

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« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2017, 06:43:51 AM »
If fried eggs are sticking to a pan, you’re either not using enough fat or you’re flipping them too soon. Eggs won’t flip correctly until the proteins are fully cooked.

Rememember that fat is essential to your diet, it’s fat+carbs that get you into trouble.

On pans, I have a cast iron, but cleaning and maintaining the seasoning has gotten old for me. I’ve recently switched back to my tri-ply stainless pans. I have both Calphalon and All-Clad. Despite All-Clad’s reputation, I like the Calphalon better and they’re usually half the price.

The Tramontina stainless pans available at many retailers are also often very well recommended. They also make the best price/performance enameled cast iron, which is great for Dutch oven cooking. 

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« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2017, 10:05:28 AM »
I use cast iron and non-stick. For non-stick, it will eventually wear out. The "Best value" I've found are the Daily Chef pans from Sam's Club, i.e. https://www.samsclub.com/sams/12-restaurant-fry-pan/prod7300014.ip?xid=plp:product:1:10

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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2017, 10:09:31 AM »
We have All-Clad stainless. They are very expensive and nowadays more of a higher end wedding present that people would get from rich parents. We enjoy cooking however and invested in about $1,000 in AC stuff this past Xmas. I cook eggs on the stainless fry pan and just use a little canola cooking spray.

I notice a huge different in cooking quality over the unclad stuff but you can purchase Chinese stuff for 1/4 the cost of AC. I'm a huge Made in USA guy however so when able and feasible purchase US made products. The jobs it provides will benefit me indirectly as those people will purchase services from my company, employing me.

Bringing jobs back to the US is important for our economy.

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« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2017, 10:53:06 AM »
We switched from teflon pans to using some generic stainless steel pans about ten years ago.  They're not hard to clean (so why the hell did we ever use Teflon pans to begin with?), and for the vast majority of cooking a pan is a pan - they'll all work about the same.

I'm happy to purchase used and not support anyone's jobs making shit that people don't need to buy new.  A frying pan should last decades at least, so there will never be enough jobs from the purchase of your frying pan to make a difference to the economy.  The waste from manufacturing new stuff though?  That'll last forever.

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« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2017, 11:15:58 AM »
We switched from teflon pans to using some generic stainless steel pans about ten years ago.  They're not hard to clean (so why the hell did we ever use Teflon pans to begin with?), and for the vast majority of cooking a pan is a pan - they'll all work about the same.

I'm happy to purchase used and not support anyone's jobs making shit that people don't need to buy new.  A frying pan should last decades at least, so there will never be enough jobs from the purchase of your frying pan to make a difference to the economy.  The waste from manufacturing new stuff though?  That'll last forever.

That's a pretty shitty attitude to have. Population growth requires more of everything. It's a basic tenant of macroeconomics.

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« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2017, 12:31:41 PM »
We switched from teflon pans to using some generic stainless steel pans about ten years ago.  They're not hard to clean (so why the hell did we ever use Teflon pans to begin with?), and for the vast majority of cooking a pan is a pan - they'll all work about the same.

I'm happy to purchase used and not support anyone's jobs making shit that people don't need to buy new.  A frying pan should last decades at least, so there will never be enough jobs from the purchase of your frying pan to make a difference to the economy.  The waste from manufacturing new stuff though?  That'll last forever.

That's a pretty shitty attitude to have. Population growth requires more of everything. It's a basic tenant of macroeconomics.

Not in my book.  Doing what’s necessary to keep from overconsumption and supporting consumer culture is good.  We don’t need more disposable crap from China.  Or anywhere else. 

Also, ditto on the cast iron skillet.  They last for decades with proper care and not very intensive care at that.  Generally old ones from the 1950s back are the best.  Though there are some high quality new ones out.  Good in a pinch for self defense as a blunt weapon. But despite what some video games and players think, not actually bulletproof.

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« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2017, 12:38:46 PM »
I'm a cast iron convert as well.  We have Lodge scrapers and a chainmail scrubber for cleaning them.  Removes anything cooked on without removing the seasoning.

I'd get a 10 inch and a 12 inch.  I use my 10 inch way more than my 12 inch, honestly.

I also have an 8 inch ceramic coated frying pan for scrambling small quantities of eggs, since they're a staple around here and it makes my life easier.  No need to be a purist on everything.

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« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2017, 01:46:36 PM »
I'm a cast iron convert as well.  We have Lodge scrapers and a chainmail scrubber for cleaning them.  Removes anything cooked on without removing the seasoning.

I'd get a 10 inch and a 12 inch.  I use my 10 inch way more than my 12 inch, honestly.

I also have an 8 inch ceramic coated frying pan for scrambling small quantities of eggs, since they're a staple around here and it makes my life easier.  No need to be a purist on everything.

I’m no purist either. I still have Teflon skillets from when I “converted” to cast iron and use the regularly. (I’m not sold on them actually being unhealthy) Although I have one scratch on one after 20 years of use, I don’t expect they’ll last as long as the cast iron skillet I bought at Goodwill that was made in 1965. 

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« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2017, 05:38:05 AM »
We switched from teflon pans to using some generic stainless steel pans about ten years ago.  They're not hard to clean (so why the hell did we ever use Teflon pans to begin with?), and for the vast majority of cooking a pan is a pan - they'll all work about the same.

I'm happy to purchase used and not support anyone's jobs making shit that people don't need to buy new.  A frying pan should last decades at least, so there will never be enough jobs from the purchase of your frying pan to make a difference to the economy.  The waste from manufacturing new stuff though?  That'll last forever.

That's a pretty shitty attitude to have. Population growth requires more of everything. It's a basic tenant of macroeconomics.

This statement inherently pits you against everything that everyone here stands for.  Sure, more stuff is needed as the population grows.  But, more than what is necessary has been produced for a very very long.  It is because this is all dictated my economics, and not by frugality.
« Last Edit: December 15, 2017, 05:40:46 AM by Case »

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« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2017, 07:48:27 AM »
I got an All Clad 12 inch fry pan at a TJ Maxx and Homegoods for $50, love it. You've gotta use fat when you cook in it, but we did that in Teflon anyway.

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« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2017, 08:42:31 AM »
We switched from teflon pans to using some generic stainless steel pans about ten years ago.  They're not hard to clean (so why the hell did we ever use Teflon pans to begin with?), and for the vast majority of cooking a pan is a pan - they'll all work about the same.

I'm happy to purchase used and not support anyone's jobs making shit that people don't need to buy new.  A frying pan should last decades at least, so there will never be enough jobs from the purchase of your frying pan to make a difference to the economy.  The waste from manufacturing new stuff though?  That'll last forever.

That's a pretty shitty attitude to have. Population growth requires more of everything. It's a basic tenant of macroeconomics.

This statement inherently pits you against everything that everyone here stands for.  Sure, more stuff is needed as the population grows.  But, more than what is necessary has been produced for a very very long.  It is because this is all dictated my economics, and not by frugality.
People here don't buy things? Really? News to me.

Regardless if the entire world adopted our mentality economic growth would grind to a halt and the market would crash bringing your hopes of retiring to a standstill, and put a ton of people out of work.

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« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2017, 08:45:40 AM »
We switched from teflon pans to using some generic stainless steel pans about ten years ago.  They're not hard to clean (so why the hell did we ever use Teflon pans to begin with?), and for the vast majority of cooking a pan is a pan - they'll all work about the same.

I'm happy to purchase used and not support anyone's jobs making shit that people don't need to buy new.  A frying pan should last decades at least, so there will never be enough jobs from the purchase of your frying pan to make a difference to the economy.  The waste from manufacturing new stuff though?  That'll last forever.

That's a pretty shitty attitude to have. Population growth requires more of everything. It's a basic tenant of macroeconomics.

This statement inherently pits you against everything that everyone here stands for.  Sure, more stuff is needed as the population grows.  But, more than what is necessary has been produced for a very very long.  It is because this is all dictated my economics, and not by frugality.
People here don't buy things? Really? News to me.

Regardless if the entire world adopted our mentality economic growth would grind to a halt and the market would crash bringing your hopes of retiring to a standstill, and put a ton of people out of work.

I'm willing to risk it.

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« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2017, 09:10:04 AM »
People here don't buy things? Really? News to me.

Regardless if the entire world adopted our mentality economic growth would grind to a halt and the market would crash bringing your hopes of retiring to a standstill, and put a ton of people out of work.

See the following threads for discussions of this topic:
https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/welcome-to-the-forum/what-if-everyone-lived-the-mustachian-lifestyle/
https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/welcome-to-the-forum/thought-experiment-what-if-everyone-were-mustachian/
https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/welcome-to-the-forum/food-for-thought-would-the-worldeconomy-survive-if-everyone-retired-early/

Back to the topic, I don't like how All-Clad becomes discolored. Also, I spend WAY less effort keeping my cast-iron in shape. I do a quick brushing with warm water after the pan cools and that's it.

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« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2017, 10:18:17 AM »
People here don't buy things? Really? News to me.

Regardless if the entire world adopted our mentality economic growth would grind to a halt and the market would crash bringing your hopes of retiring to a standstill, and put a ton of people out of work.

See the following threads for discussions of this topic:
https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/welcome-to-the-forum/what-if-everyone-lived-the-mustachian-lifestyle/
https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/welcome-to-the-forum/thought-experiment-what-if-everyone-were-mustachian/
https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/welcome-to-the-forum/food-for-thought-would-the-worldeconomy-survive-if-everyone-retired-early/

Back to the topic, I don't like how All-Clad becomes discolored. Also, I spend WAY less effort keeping my cast-iron in shape. I do a quick brushing with warm water after the pan cools and that's it.

My all clad looks practically brand new. I use bar keepers friend and a little water on a paper towel to get rid of the discoloration and burnt on crud.

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« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2017, 10:02:44 AM »
We switched from teflon pans to using some generic stainless steel pans about ten years ago.  They're not hard to clean (so why the hell did we ever use Teflon pans to begin with?), and for the vast majority of cooking a pan is a pan - they'll all work about the same.

I'm happy to purchase used and not support anyone's jobs making shit that people don't need to buy new.  A frying pan should last decades at least, so there will never be enough jobs from the purchase of your frying pan to make a difference to the economy.  The waste from manufacturing new stuff though?  That'll last forever.

That's a pretty shitty attitude to have. Population growth requires more of everything. It's a basic tenant of macroeconomics.

This statement inherently pits you against everything that everyone here stands for.  Sure, more stuff is needed as the population grows.  But, more than what is necessary has been produced for a very very long.  It is because this is all dictated my economics, and not by frugality.
People here don't buy things? Really? News to me.

Regardless if the entire world adopted our mentality economic growth would grind to a halt and the market would crash bringing your hopes of retiring to a standstill, and put a ton of people out of work.

People here buy far less things than the typical person.  Did you miss that?  Its one of the most common features of this forum.  Most dont go to the extreme of buying zero things, but you can buy less things and still be more frugal.

Sure, the economy would suffer if everyone stopped buying stuff period.  But they arennt and it isnt.  And if they were, i guarantee there would be all types of threads here on how to survive the new world.  Trying to use this ‘supporting the economy’ BS to gain some sort of moral high ground is totally against everyone here.  If you really believe that, lets start a new thread and see what we learn.

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« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2017, 11:58:03 AM »
Another cast iron fan here.  I've been cooking with it since I was a kid (and still feel a little guilty about the time I scrubbed and scrubbed and scrubbed my mom's skillet to get rid of all the black stuff and make it shiny for her.  I didn't know...)

I use it for pretty much everything except boiling water (pasta and hard boiled eggs), and candy making (would probably work, but don't have one the right size).

As long as you have a good seasoning, you can do whatever with it.  Use dish detergent, or don't, doesn't matter.  I do the simmer-on-the-stove method to clean out stuff like sauces, but even when I soaked I never "ruined" my pans.  Dry it on a burner set to low, or in a low oven, to avoid rust (and, if you do get rust, you'll need to reseason it, because you have bare spots).

No, I can't throw it in the dishwasher like I can my Viking (made in USA) stainless steel pans, but I really don't see how they take any time consuming extra care or maintenance.  Maybe because it is all just automatic at this point.

As for eggs sticking-- may not be seasoned well enough (you want lots of thin layers to start), or you may be cooking at too high a heat.  Try a lower heat, a little oil, and don't turn them too early.  Stuff tends to release from cast iron on its own when it is ready to turn.  With a really well seasoned skillet, you can skip the oil.  I usually let the pan start heating up while I get things out of the fridge, etc.

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« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2017, 12:16:29 PM »
We love our Matfer Bourgeat carbon steel pans. They are very similar to cast iron, but machine made and much lighter. We also keep some SS pans around for higher acidity dishes.

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« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2017, 01:17:13 PM »
We switched from teflon pans to using some generic stainless steel pans about ten years ago.  They're not hard to clean (so why the hell did we ever use Teflon pans to begin with?), and for the vast majority of cooking a pan is a pan - they'll all work about the same.

I'm happy to purchase used and not support anyone's jobs making shit that people don't need to buy new.  A frying pan should last decades at least, so there will never be enough jobs from the purchase of your frying pan to make a difference to the economy.  The waste from manufacturing new stuff though?  That'll last forever.

That's a pretty shitty attitude to have. Population growth requires more of everything. It's a basic tenant of macroeconomics.

This statement inherently pits you against everything that everyone here stands for.  Sure, more stuff is needed as the population grows.  But, more than what is necessary has been produced for a very very long.  It is because this is all dictated my economics, and not by frugality.
People here don't buy things? Really? News to me.

Regardless if the entire world adopted our mentality economic growth would grind to a halt and the market would crash bringing your hopes of retiring to a standstill, and put a ton of people out of work.

People here buy far less things than the typical person.  Did you miss that?  Its one of the most common features of this forum.  Most dont go to the extreme of buying zero things, but you can buy less things and still be more frugal.

Sure, the economy would suffer if everyone stopped buying stuff period.  But they arennt and it isnt.  And if they were, i guarantee there would be all types of threads here on how to survive the new world.  Trying to use this ‘supporting the economy’ BS to gain some sort of moral high ground is totally against everyone here.  If you really believe that, lets start a new thread and see what we learn.

Reducing our trade deficit should be the number one priority if those in charge actually cared about US jobs.

It is irrefutable that it would fix our ailments here in the US. Half a trillion a year leaves the US because of our trade deficit.

It's a choice people can make. I feel with our income and assets it would be irresponsible to not at least attempt to buy US made products when they exist. Many out there in the world however are very me me me centered and as such just care about themselves.

Nowhere did I even insinuate that we should go out and buy buy buy everything! Do not put words in my mouth. I do support buying used as that is the same as buying US made, as the money stays here vs leaves the country.

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Re: cooking pan recommendation
« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2017, 02:47:14 PM »
We switched from teflon pans to using some generic stainless steel pans about ten years ago.  They're not hard to clean (so why the hell did we ever use Teflon pans to begin with?), and for the vast majority of cooking a pan is a pan - they'll all work about the same.

I'm happy to purchase used and not support anyone's jobs making shit that people don't need to buy new.  A frying pan should last decades at least, so there will never be enough jobs from the purchase of your frying pan to make a difference to the economy.  The waste from manufacturing new stuff though?  That'll last forever.

That's a pretty shitty attitude to have. Population growth requires more of everything. It's a basic tenant of macroeconomics.

This statement inherently pits you against everything that everyone here stands for.  Sure, more stuff is needed as the population grows.  But, more than what is necessary has been produced for a very very long.  It is because this is all dictated my economics, and not by frugality.
People here don't buy things? Really? News to me.

Regardless if the entire world adopted our mentality economic growth would grind to a halt and the market would crash bringing your hopes of retiring to a standstill, and put a ton of people out of work.

People here buy far less things than the typical person.  Did you miss that?  Its one of the most common features of this forum.  Most dont go to the extreme of buying zero things, but you can buy less things and still be more frugal.

Sure, the economy would suffer if everyone stopped buying stuff period.  But they arennt and it isnt.  And if they were, i guarantee there would be all types of threads here on how to survive the new world.  Trying to use this ‘supporting the economy’ BS to gain some sort of moral high ground is totally against everyone here.  If you really believe that, lets start a new thread and see what we learn.

Reducing our trade deficit should be the number one priority if those in charge actually cared about US jobs.

It is irrefutable that it would fix our ailments here in the US. Half a trillion a year leaves the US because of our trade deficit.

It's a choice people can make. I feel with our income and assets it would be irresponsible to not at least attempt to buy US made products when they exist. Many out there in the world however are very me me me centered and as such just care about themselves.

Nowhere did I even insinuate that we should go out and buy buy buy everything! Do not put words in my mouth. I do support buying used as that is the same as buying US made, as the money stays here vs leaves the country.

Whoa, wait, what the hell?

You just brought in a tangential argument.  We weren't talking about US vs foreign made, we were talking about buying used vs new and any supposed virtues aligned with one way or the other.  You've got to at least explain the link your trying to make, or it is random and doesn't make sense.  It sounds like you have an axe to grind with someone/something and reading what you want to read in order to turn things into an argument about what you want to argue about.

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Re: cooking pan recommendation
« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2017, 03:09:31 PM »
Buy what you want all I said is I try to buy US made when I can. Somehow that got interpreted as take out a second mortgage to fill your house with useless crap.


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Re: cooking pan recommendation
« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2017, 06:25:04 PM »
I love cooking and have accumulated some nice items over the years.  My cooking pans fall into three categories:

1.  Cast iron -- I have Lodge pans that literally have been in my family over 150 years (and are still in perfect condition).  In terms of bang-for-the-buck, you can't beat them.  I love that they heat evenly and "hold the heat", and I love that they work on the cooktop OR can be popped into the oven (i.e., for Shepherd's Pie or cornbread).  On the negative side, they are heavy (which is how I came to have them -- as she aged, my grandmother found them too heavy for everyday use), and they must be washed by hand.  I also have two large enamel-covered Lodge dutch ovens, which are wonderful (and beautiful -- one red, one blue -- when I get a small one in green, I'll feel my set is complete)... they have all the positives of plain cast iron,  but I don't know that they'll have the long life of the plain stuff. 

2.  Cuisinart Multi-Clad Pro -- A couple years ago I decided to treat myself to a really good set of pans for everyday use, and after lots of research, this is the set I chose.  I have all my frying pans + deep frying pans ... I still need my saucepans.  These are excellent quality cookware.  Stainless steel is healthy and cleans up easily.  This set contains several layers of other metals inside the stainless steel; if you get this set, be sure to go with Multi-Clad Pro ... the metals inside run up the sides (whereas the slightly cheaper set only has those insets on the bottom).  I've had my oldest frying pans about four years, so I can verify that they hold up well.  I expect these pots will last the rest of my life.

3.  Assorted other stuff -- I have a glass Visions stockpot, which I love for cooking soup; I like being able to see everything ... I have a small non-stick frying pan for eggs ... and a couple other oddities such as a double boiler, an asparagus pot, etc.  These aren't top quality.

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Re: cooking pan recommendation
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2017, 07:47:13 AM »
We have a set of Cuisinart all clad.  Expensive but cook amazingly well (no warping, no dings, no hot spots) and have lasted (and look nearly new) for the last 14 years.

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Re: cooking pan recommendation
« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2017, 09:00:25 AM »
We use Farberware stainless steel, and a Teflon coated pan for eggs. The Farberware we got 37 years ago as a wedding gift and replace the Teflon every 7-8 years or so

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« Reply #38 on: December 24, 2017, 01:33:16 AM »
I use old cast iron and Revere Ware pans. As mentioned, Farberware is also a good option. Very easy to clean. These can be found at thrift stores very cheaply and are usually everywhere. Just make sure they're not too beat to hell- check the bottom of pans to make sure they're relatively flat and not warped with heat and make sure they come with lids. The revere ware pans from the past were well made and will last forever. One can also purchase replacement handles as well.

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Re: cooking pan recommendation
« Reply #39 on: December 24, 2017, 12:46:52 PM »
Le creuset for sauces and bread, wok for stir fry, stainless for pasta and rice, cast iron for everything else.

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Re: cooking pan recommendation
« Reply #40 on: December 24, 2017, 07:09:10 PM »
We love our Matfer Bourgeat carbon steel pans. They are very similar to cast iron, but machine made and much lighter. We also keep some SS pans around for higher acidity dishes.

I think this is the same pan I bought  my  sister last year. I got to cook on it for a week and really loved it.

I want to second the recommendation for high carbon Steele pans. They are basically cast iron but made with modern technology to be lighter. Still seares seasons and last jut as well

Do some research but I think they deserve a place beside cast iron, and are used in most professional kitchns

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Re: cooking pan recommendation
« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2018, 08:23:25 PM »
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We have a set of Cuisinart all clad.  Expensive but cook amazingly well (no warping, no dings, no hot spots) and have lasted (and look nearly new) for the last 14 years.
I bought Cuisinart cookware last year. It was damaged within 8 months. So, it also depends on luck and care of the product.
Yes, I have Copper Chef Cookware now and it's working perfectly for me. I bought this last year after reading this reviews Copper Chef Cookware Reviews 2018: You will love these set.
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Re: cooking pan recommendation
« Reply #42 on: September 12, 2018, 10:33:21 PM »
If you don't want eggs to stick (to anything, but I usually use my cast iron):

1. use enough fat
2. heat it up enough
3. wait till it's hot enough

If you're one of those sickos who likes runny scrambled eggs, all hope is lost and you still have to scrub out a nonstick pan, so use a regular pan anyway because nonstick is creepy.

I don't know why people are so obsessed with eggs sticking or not. It's what they do and they come off with very minimal soaking.

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« Reply #43 on: September 12, 2018, 10:53:38 PM »
i use all clad and love them. Last forever and once you get used to cooking on them stuff doesnt really get stuck to it anymore.

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Re: cooking pan recommendation
« Reply #44 on: September 12, 2018, 10:53:51 PM »
Came here to recommend cast iron. Welp. Guess I don't need to, since it's only been recommended by about 95% of respondents.

Anyway. My cast iron skillet lives on my stovetop and is my go-to for about everything. In general, heavier is better with stovetop pans. Find a nice-feeling stainless pan with a thick base, you'll be fine with that too. For other pots, etc., I've been pretty partial to my Farberware.

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« Reply #45 on: September 12, 2018, 11:14:37 PM »

Reducing our trade deficit should be the number one priority if those in charge actually cared about US jobs.

It is irrefutable that it would fix our ailments here in the US. Half a trillion a year leaves the US because of our trade deficit.

Sorry for the OT...actually it is refutable.  If you can trade for something that costs $90 that would cost you $100 to make yourself, you just created $10 out of thin air.  This is basic economic theory that goes all the way back to Adam Smith and continues on through Keynes, Hayek, and Samuelson.    Cutting trade would make us all poorer. 

Anyway, back to the topic, I am a huge fan of cast iron.  I cook a lot, and I find the cast iron is the pan I'm always reaching for.  That said, modern cast iron pans--while cheap and worth every penny--are sand cast, which leaves a pebbly surface on the face of the pan.  Older pans (available on eBay and such) have a completely smooth face, which makes them as close to non-stick as possible.

I have a modern smooth face pan, which isn't cheap but lasts a lifetime.  Well worth the cost, IMO. 

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Re: cooking pan recommendation
« Reply #46 on: September 13, 2018, 05:44:21 AM »
We love our Matfer Bourgeat carbon steel pans. They are very similar to cast iron, but machine made and much lighter. We also keep some SS pans around for higher acidity dishes.

+1. These are great pans, easy to clean, and have very good non-stick qualities. We have two (small and large). Only issue is that the handle isn't very comfortable. My SO complains about it constantly. But everything else about them is great!