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pstachio

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Cohousing and tiny houses
« on: July 13, 2017, 10:16:06 PM »
Hello weird-lifestyle-inclined Mustachians!

I'm pondering how various community and cohousing arrangements could go great lengths toward the financial and environmental goals of Mustachianism. A FIRE dream of mine is starting or living in a cohousing type community made up of small, Mustachian dwellings, with a central house available for projects, large meals, and meeting with other awesome people.

Are there any Mustachians currently living in a cohousing/coop/intentional community setting? Anyone else sharing this as a dream or goal? Do folks have suggestions on resources?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

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Re: Cohousing and tiny houses
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2017, 11:01:47 PM »
I'd love to live in a tiny house Mustachian compound. I don't see it happening pre-retirement due to my city's archaic bylaws, but post-retirement, who knows. Can someone else put in the effort to start it?

I live in a housing co-op right now, which is kind of cool - everything is managed by volunteer committees, and we have some nice shared amenities. I actually use the common room for our local Mustachian meetups pretty frequently. But there isn't that "synergy" I'd expect in Mustache Town where everyone is kind of paddling the boat in the same direction.
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Re: Cohousing and tiny houses
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2017, 11:24:47 PM »
I'm also in Vancouver (West End) and I hear from my friends who hosted a tiny house for a while that the city may be floating a trial balloon on tiny houses. Like exempting tiny houses from the bylaws for a year and then assess.
Their tiny house people got notice from the city after a complaint. That part of east Van has a lot of people living in RV's etc in the alleys, and they suspect that they stuff (two dirt bikes, big truck that can pull a tiny house) taking up space in the alley might have started to grate on someone's nerves.
Anyway, if you're pro-tiny, now would probably be a good time to call 311 and voice your support for a bylaw trial.

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Re: Cohousing and tiny houses
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2017, 11:07:55 AM »
My post-FIRE fantasies usually include some type of cohousing and/or can dwelling.

I have the following bookmarked http://www.cohousing.org/directory (US based)... Looks like it's based on this http://www.ic.org/directory/intentional-communities-by-country/.

These list co-housing/intentional living communities around US and globe, respectively. I like to go on every few years to see what's popping up and check out existing options in placed I think I'd like living.

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Re: Cohousing and tiny houses
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2017, 02:11:47 PM »
Check out Zappos founder Tony Hsieh's lifestyle:

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/zappos-ceo-lives-trailer-13-things/story?id=32928943

But "under $1000/mo" might be un-mustachian, especially in downtown Las Vegas, where cheap "real" houses and condos abound.

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Re: Cohousing and tiny houses
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2017, 02:52:47 PM »
Communes were tried in the US in the 60's.
I'm pretty sure they all failed.

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Re: Cohousing and tiny houses
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2017, 06:32:04 AM »
  You can pick up a single wide trailer (manufactured home :\ ?) pretty cheap in the rural areas of most states. The do have lots of  such tiny house communities near me, we call them trailer parks. Snark aside, the tiny house movement is an interesting one that could solve a number of problems in HCOL areas but they are only allowed in LCOL areas.
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Re: Cohousing and tiny houses
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2017, 08:17:07 AM »
Hello weird-lifestyle-inclined Mustachians!

I'm pondering how various community and cohousing arrangements could go great lengths toward the financial and environmental goals of Mustachianism. A FIRE dream of mine is starting or living in a cohousing type community made up of small, Mustachian dwellings, with a central house available for projects, large meals, and meeting with other awesome people.

Are there any Mustachians currently living in a cohousing/coop/intentional community setting? Anyone else sharing this as a dream or goal? Do folks have suggestions on resources?

Looking forward to hearing from you

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 That's pretty much a description of a typical RV park, except the shared goals part.

Have to bring your own goals, or home-make them out of  scraps you find around the park.

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Re: Cohousing and tiny houses
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2017, 08:47:49 AM »
My brother and his family lived in "dorm rooms for adults" until moving into SIL's gramma's basement.  It was a very small room with private bathroom and a kitchen sink/microwave.  There were multiple community kitchens, a music room, a "relaxation" room, and a craft room. 

It's my idea of hell, but they enjoyed it.  It allowed them to live in an expensive area and keep the car parked most of the time by walking/taking the bus everywhere.

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Re: Cohousing and tiny houses
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2017, 09:03:28 AM »
  You can pick up a single wide trailer (manufactured home :\ ?) pretty cheap in the rural areas of most states. The do have lots of  such tiny house communities near me, we call them trailer parks. Snark aside, the tiny house movement is an interesting one that could solve a number of problems in HCOL areas but they are only allowed in LCOL areas.

We actually do have trailer parks in SoCal. Some of them are even convenient to public transportation.

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Re: Cohousing and tiny houses
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2017, 04:11:08 PM »
  You can pick up a single wide trailer (manufactured home :\ ?) pretty cheap in the rural areas of most states. The do have lots of  such tiny house communities near me, we call them trailer parks. Snark aside, the tiny house movement is an interesting one that could solve a number of problems in HCOL areas but they are only allowed in LCOL areas.

haha this definitely made me laugh. I live in a manufactured home (in a trailer park) in a suburban HCOL area. And I love it. It's the perfect medium between a super tiny house and a regular house. Everything we need and nothing we don't. Plus less cost, upkeep, utilities, etc vs a larger house. The neighbors and sense of community are fantastic. Every time someone says "tiny house communities seem so cool, what a novel idea!" I literally roll my eyes... :P

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Re: Cohousing and tiny houses
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2017, 08:47:49 PM »
OP  for co housing arrangements, set up, contracts, and how they work in usa, europe, etc., check out this book.  It includes excellent descriptions of how each organization formed itself and planned their communities, and invited others, found land, etc.

(not really about tiny houses, but co housing / condo communities.)

Creating Cohousing
Building Sustainable Communities
By McCamant, Kathryn
   
Book - 2011
334.1 MCC
« Last Edit: August 07, 2017, 05:48:23 AM by Goldielocks »

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Re: Cohousing and tiny houses
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2017, 10:12:23 PM »
I live in a co-op in NYC. My apartment is < 400 sqft. plus a 100 soft terrace. I guess it's about twice as big as the typical tiny house? But it's definitely small by American standards.

But, I suspect this isn't what you're interested in given that Manhattan isn't exactly inexpensive. We paid $685k for the privilege of living in this postage stamp.

As far as community goes, a new guy moved in and we became fast friends with him and his frequently visiting girlfriend. They've even offered to babysit our 8-month-old. About half the building are part-time residents, but it means the building stays pretty quiet, and they're actually subsidizing my hot water and laundry.