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Buying better but way more expensive things...
« on: June 17, 2017, 06:06:01 PM »
I know we all try and get the best deal, and not always the cheapest price, for our dollar.  Lately I've bought two things (well some of one was a gift) that have brought me some satisfaction even though I'm not positive that it really is the most bang for the buck--

Rigid had their cordless tools on sale for Christmas.  Family bought me some, I was going to buy them so I shifted and bought a cordless multitool with all sorts of attachments. Lifetime warranty, even batteries if they were part of a set!  Nice solid tools with good adjustments and plenty of power.  Quick to charge.  Compared to my old ones that cost much less but got replaced every year or two these are awesome.

Splurged on some Duluth firehose workpants.  I'm impressed so far. Lots of pockets and heavy material. The heavy material is used for the front pockets so maybe no more holes like I got in the thin cotton pockets of my jeans. 

Now granted, I bought these all on sale but they still cost way more (3X+) what I normally buy.  I have to admit I am pleased with them.  Now I'm wondering if I "cheaped out" on other things that were worth the premium price.  Anyone think I'm nuts for splurging on these?  What have you purchased that seemed too high a premium price but that you decided later was worth it?

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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2017, 06:16:39 PM »
Magnatiles for the kids.
Macbook Air laptop. We get 6+ years and counting of productive use out of it.
Second hand (pawn shop or auction) SnapOn hand tools.
Nissan LEAF.

That last one I'm not quite 100% sure it was worth the price, but it is a quite nice car and as the guy who turns all the wrenches on our cars, it's been nice to do literally nothing except add windshield washer fluid in 30 months. (I'm about to have to change the wiper blades.)

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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2017, 06:26:28 PM »
- Bought an Imac in 2009 and only upgrade I've needed was increasing the RAM.
- Rockport shoes I buy are more expensive than most but last for years despite walking 4-5 miles a day in them and standing for up to 8 hours a day. Yeah I know they aren't stylish and I don't care.
- Same with the pants and shirts. I hate buying new ones so replace them every few years.

In general most physical things on the market are unnecessary & poor quality. Spending a little more time and money to find a reliable brand is hard but worth it in the long term.

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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2017, 06:29:13 PM »
I personally think knives and shoes are worth spending more money on. I have Shun Ken knives and they are significantly better than the cheaper brands and will last a lifetime I think.

I also spent $600 on a mattress (Tuft and Needle) when I could have bought a $200 one or even cheaper. While $600 is not an "expensive" mattress, it certainly isn't as cheap as I could go. The mattress is worth every penny and my sleep has never been better.

I am on my feet all day, so the Payless shoes are not going to cut it. Birkenstocks (lol) are some of my favorites. :) Again not the most expensive, but I'm spending $100+ vs $20

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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2017, 06:34:53 PM »
I think the general consensus would be that there are things for all of us that are worth the premium for higher quality, especially if it will last dramatically longer.   There was a thread earlier on items that you "buy it for life" (BIFL) that are well worth the premium.  What items are worth the premium depend on what your needs and preferences are, but once you make that choice enjoy it.

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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2017, 08:01:53 PM »
Bikes, never a problem spending on something with so much utility and happiness generation ability. But buy quality and keep long term. Fix stuff when it breaks. Steel or titanium frames that are built to last.

SUV. Regardless of the anti-suv sentiment of MMM, a solid snow and offroad capable vehicle is and almost certainly will remain a part of our family. No problem with the spend here at all, bought a toyota that I expect to still be driving and 200k miles.

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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2017, 08:12:11 PM »
I always try to buy shoes on sale, but I have no problem spending $100+ on a nice pair.  They will run circles around the cheap crap that's available.  Goodness my birkenstocks (close to $200 if I remember correctly) must be 10 years old, and I wear them for at least part of EVERY SINGLE DAY (they are my "inside" shoes).   My Ariat paddock boots cost close to $200 back in ... hmmm... 2002 or so... I'm still wearing them (although they are starting to show their age).  And my beloved Merrell winter hiking boots look almost as nice as they did the day I bought them for 1/2 price at least 4 winters ago.  Any shoe I have paid less than $50 has fallen apart/worn through much too quickly.  I don't have time to shop for shoes!

For clothing, I look for high-quality used. 

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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2017, 08:27:38 PM »
I bought a very very expensive mattress. Several thousand worth. I have a long term back injury and the mattress has changed my sleep completely. I'd tried one at a friend's place when I was baby sitting and it was completely fantastic, so I knew what I was getting. People's mouths drop when they ask how much it was, but considering that it has actually, literally changed my life, I don't regret it for a second. If you don't have constant low level pain, you might not understand. If you do, you'll know just how valuable it is to be rid of it!

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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2017, 08:41:26 PM »
I used to buy cheapish (~$80) leather shoes for work which would last maybe six months as the sole would wear out (and as it was moulded rubber, couldn't be easily repaired).

I then bought a pair of fancypants Italian leather shoes with leather soles for $180 (down from $300) where I could repair the soles where needed. I'm still wearing them almost three years later.

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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2017, 08:54:26 PM »
There are a few things I've spent more than usual on.

Darn Tough socks
Underarmor or Ex Officio underwear
Prana Stretch Zion pants (I don't wear anything else unless I'm working on a car, then it's $20/throwaway-level Wrangler cargo pants)

I'm considering selling my desktop computer and getting a high-end laptop to replace it, but haven't convinced myself it's worth the money yet.

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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2017, 09:17:44 PM »
I have to wear business clothes for work, but outside work, I only wear Carhart pants.

I don't have any pants that aren't cargo pants. If a book can't fit beside the knee, there's no point in wearing pants. While expensive, they last 4 years or more. Couldn't be happier to spend the money on them. I am dismayed any time I touch a pair of pants in a department store these days. You'd think the only advancement in textile technology has been to make progressively thinner material.

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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2017, 09:17:47 AM »
Carhart is a good second to Duluth.  I have some of theirs and would have bought more when I found some on sale but the store was out of my size! 

The Duluth have a pocket at the knees for inserting pads.  I got a discount because the ones I bought had the pocket too small for the pads Duluth sells.  I didn't care--the extra layer makes the knees that much more durable and then I went to the flea market and bought an old exercise mat to cut up for custom sized knee pads if I every care to insert them (which is rare).  The Duluth brand are thicker material and treated to be pretty waterproof.  I don't know how long the waterproofing will hold up.  The inner front pocket material is as thick as the Carhart pant material.  A big thing for me--I use my pockets a lot and often have to sew up holes in them.

My son buys used jeans and sews an extra pocket on to hold his multitool.  Certainly a mustachian solution.  But he is still growing and a starving college student so he is a) not as hard on the jeans and b) at a more frugal point in his life and c) more likely to outgrow the pants.  Unfortunately, Carharts are seldom found at resale shops or garage sales.

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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2017, 11:25:52 AM »
I used to buy cheapish (~$80) leather shoes for work which would last maybe six months as the sole would wear out (and as it was moulded rubber, couldn't be easily repaired).

I then bought a pair of fancypants Italian leather shoes with leather soles for $180 (down from $300) where I could repair the soles where needed. I'm still wearing them almost three years later.

My best dress shoes, which I used to have to wear to work every day are more than 20 years old. I've had the soles re-done on a couple pair. I don't wear them as much, and I keep them in shoe trees so hey stay straight. They are all-leather construction and will certainly outlast me. They are not fancypants Italian, but made here in the US, however the company is most likely long gone.

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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2017, 01:36:46 PM »
I too, am in the camp that believes in buying quality.  I also feel better then I support the local business.  With this, I just ordered a cake for my kid's birthday party from a local bakery.   It cost $50.  I could have gotten a birthday cake from a supermarket for $20, but I elected to spend the extra money because a) the money supports the locally-owned bakery and it it will circulate in the local economy instead of going to the corporate headquarters of the supermarket chain, b) because the bakery puts real butter in its buttercream, and the cake has ingredients I can pronounce.

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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2017, 01:47:26 PM »
I'd say fresh vegetables in season from the farmers market because they taste so incredible, but they're cheaper, not more expensive. I don't get people who say eating healthy is expensive. Not knowing how to cook is expensive.

I'd also say the Concept 2 rowing machine I have, except that I got it half price from Craig's List ($500) and compared to the gym memberships I don't have (along with learning body weight exercises and getting a few weights), it saved me money. Come to think of it, if you can't find one half price like I did, I'd still recommend one if you'll use it. The quality of the machine and the exercise it gives is incredible.
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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2017, 04:25:05 PM »
...Not knowing how to cook is expensive.


I've always thought this is one the of biggest things on saving money/getting high quality food.  Just buying raw foods, even rather expensive ones, at groceries and farmers markets is way cheaper than eating out.  Rally's (a burger chain) offers a 4 for $3 (cheese burger, fries, coke, apple pie) that is perhaps cheaper if you don't do any shopping around for price savings but I think it is the exception rather than the rule.  And eating that every day would probably wind up costing you in terms of health!

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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2017, 05:59:53 PM »
Just bought google mesh wifi for 269. I figure long term high quality internet has some sort of wealth value and is obviously much more convenient.

Also I'm a sys admin so I like the tech :)

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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2017, 06:34:59 PM »
I paid more for better expected longevity on a washer and dryer last month. The customer reviews I read on current models were all dismal, except for one brand: Speed Queen. It seemed everyone who bought Speed Queen loved their washer and dryer, so that's what we got. I think they'll be cheaper in the long run.

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« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2017, 06:40:05 PM »
I don't know about "way more expensive", but in general I think the best value tends to be upper-middle items.  By that, I mean that the cheapest item is usually poorly made and doesn't last ... and the most expensive item typically contains more bells and whistles than we actually need ... so, in general, I think Goldilocks had it right:  The middle item is typically "just right". 

It's true of cars.  I wouldn't buy the cheapest of the cheap, nor would I buy the top-of-the-line luxury car ... but a nice Honda is "just right". 
It's true of kitchen items:  I don't want the $15 Walmart mixer, nor do I need the professional size ... but a standard Kitchen Aid is "just right". 
It's true of clothing:  I don't buy one-season Target clothing, and I don't even recognize designer names ... but Lee jeans fit me "just right" and last at least five years. 

In general, middle-of-the-road is the best bang for the buck.

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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2017, 07:05:12 PM »
I don't buy it.

I feel like these days, price correlates more strongly with features and "feel" rather than longevity. There are some cases where the extra features are worth it and some where they aren't. This is usually subjective.

Law of diminishing returns obviously applies to many examples. A $1K golf club is not five times better than a $200 one. Same with cars, computers, nearly everything. While I have owned Macs and many other Apple products, I buy them because I feel like they're the best possible experience plus they tend to hold their value much better. I don't buy them because I feel like they'll last me longer...(although they are built well).

I'm just not convinced that "buy it for life" is a universally applicable phrase for everything you buy. And that's a highly ambiguous phrase as it is. Everything wears out, plain and simple. You should buy things based on how you intend to use them. You wouldn't buy a cheaply made plastic kayak to go down class VI rapids in the same way you wouldn't buy a $400 laptop to edit 4K video on. You buy for your intents and purposes.

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« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2017, 07:11:32 PM »
I used to buy cheapish (~$80) leather shoes for work which would last maybe six months as the sole would wear out (and as it was moulded rubber, couldn't be easily repaired).

I then bought a pair of fancypants Italian leather shoes with leather soles for $180 (down from $300) where I could repair the soles where needed. I'm still wearing them almost three years later.

^ This.  I have several pairs of really nice shoes that have lasted 8+ years with only a couple of resoles.  Plus they just feel so much better.  I'm finally at the point where I think the repairs will cost a significant portion of the cost for new ones and am therefore shopping high end with no remorse.   

Generally, I have no problem buying higher quality items if I think it will be worth it in the long run or if I get enjoyment out of it.   

Someone on here (I think) once posted a German saying to the effect of:  "I'm too poor to buy cheap things." 

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« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2017, 07:17:15 PM »
My mom always bought the cheapest options -- her favorite line was that it's "just as good."  But sometimes it's not.  Like, say, the Christmas present tabletop pool set that was so cheap it sagged in the middle.  Meanwhile, DH grew up buying name brand everything; the first time he asked me to pick up OJ, and I came home with the $0.49 frozen orange tube, he was not happy. 

Now we look for the "knee of the curve" -- the price point where you get the most value per dollar.  When it's something that doesn't matter, that may be the cheapest one; other times, it's more expensive, but almost never the most expensive. 

One splurge that has been totally worth it is dairy delivery -- the milk is so much better than anything I've ever had.

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« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2017, 08:16:53 PM »
I fought this battle last month when we decided on granite countertops for our kitchen renovation.  Laminate would have been MUCH cheaper but yeah it's laminate.

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« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2017, 08:23:32 PM »
Some things are worth spending money on.

Sometimes I just buy a cheap tool if I know I will only use it a few times.


Sometimes comfort is more important than how long an item will last. Doc Martin shoes can last for decades, but they are not comfortable for me standing all day. Skechers go walk shoes have been a god send to me, but I don't expect them to last for years, just because of the lightweight material.

So I don't think there is any one answer on cost vs quality.

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« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2017, 08:24:43 PM »
I can think of two expensive but worth it items.
SAS shoes- My first pair of sandals lasted over 10 years and were so comfy I hated to see them go.
Staub Cookware- Luckily I found a clearance sale and didn't pay anything close to retail but those pieces cook like a dream and seem indestructible.

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« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2017, 09:24:27 PM »
Speaking of cookware, I still have the Volraith pan set that I bought while in college - that was the early 80s. I added 2 more pans a few years ago, to get a multi sized steamer and double boiler plus the whistling tops that tell you it's boiling. The added items will fit my existing pans as well. Great pans.

Still have the Society china and Oneida stainless from that time,as well a set of Oneida silverware from the 60s. It's so much better than just about anything you can get today.

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« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2017, 09:57:34 PM »
For things that I'm going to use a lot, or are part of my interests/hobbies, I'd much rather buy based on quality vs. price and am willing to pay quite a premium for quality.  Often times things that are 10x as expensive as their cheap competitor will end up costing less in the long run, without even factoring in the low depreciation and high resale value that certain quality goods often have.

Some examples are:
$100 outlier merino wool t-shirt.  I know.. $100 for a plain t-shirt!!!  I pack two of these and have been traveling the world in them.  They still look new and never stink.

$100 manduka yoga mat that i've used 4-7 times a week for the last 8 years and still looks brand new.  Cheap mats get shredded in no time, and are horrible to practice on.

$500 technic turntable, used for 4 years and sold for $600

$700 herman miller chair, bought used, used for 6 years and sold for $650

Camera Lenses.  I've owned too many to list. Buying used premium glass in good condition always almost has 0 depreciation.  Leica glass sometimes even appreciates.

Coffee.  If you haven't gone down this rabbit hole yet, don't.  It's expensive!  But god, it's something i'm willing to pay for and happily craft and drink many cups daily.  I wish I could be happy buying beans from costco and saving money on coffee.. but this is the one place in my budget where I still happily splurge. 

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« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2017, 10:16:47 PM »
I believe if it is an item you will use often, you are better of spending some extra money to get quality. Cheap stuff breaks and you find yourself spending more repairing or rebuying as compared to buying a solid product the first time.

There are plenty of examples above.

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« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2017, 05:26:49 AM »
I'm currently thinking this way about a new beds (mattresses). A few years ago I bought new mattresses at a store - I chose the 2nd cheapest option they had available, they seemed comfortable at the time. Realizing now that they aren't providing great support and aren't that comfortable. But there is such a huge price range, I'm not even sure what's reasonable!

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« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2017, 06:46:36 AM »
Re: Farmer's Markets -- I avoid them because I find the prices a lot more expensive than the local grocery store.  "Non-GMO / organic" has no power over me so I'm quite happy to get what I get at the grocery store and grow the rest myself.

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« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2017, 07:17:04 AM »
In general, I tend to lean towards the higher grade products as they generally perform better and last longer.
Always buy high grade tools and equipment, never the cheap stuff.
Big fan of the Duluth clothing products too, own a bunch of it, also like LL Bean.   Carhart stuff isn't as good as it used to be, but I still like their brown duck coveralls, coats and bibs for winter work.
I like nice fishing equipment, but can't justify purchasing $200+ Loomis and other high grade rods when I tend to bust one occasionally.  I use mid grade rods with high grade reels.
Don't see the value in granite countertops.  Nothing you can do on them that you can't do on Corian or Laminate with a little common sense, for a fraction of the money.
I like heavy duty furniture because it holds up so much better, but it's getting difficult to find.

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« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2017, 07:50:57 AM »
I'm a huge fan of this philosophy.  I generally don't buy that much stuff, so I want the stuff I do buy to last.  When I buy garbage, even when it's cheap, it pisses me off way more than it does to spend the money on stuff that's going to last a long time.  But there's also the perspective of "how much am I going to use this thing?" and if I know the answer is "not much" I'll buy the cheapest adequate solution.  For instance, we bought a nice couch and recliner for our finished basement, because we spend a huge amount of time down there.  On the other hand, our 10y/o $400 sofa in the living room is sagging and terrible, and needs to be replaced, but we will buy something inexpensive because we don't sit in there that often and thus it isn't worth spending a lot of money, probably the same $400 or thereabouts that we spent 10 years ago.

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« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2017, 11:53:40 AM »
I've been thinking about the Big Green Egg. There's a lifetime guarantee, but I don't think I've eaten enough grilled hamburgers in my lifetime to justify the price. And you can only use their name brand products with it.

I could bake a cake with it, but would I? Naw.   

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« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2017, 12:06:56 PM »
This will be my next winter coat, I think:

http://www.patagonia.com/product/womens-tres-3-in-1-parka/28407.html?dwvar_28407_color=BLK&cgid=root#tile-2=&q=3-in-1&lang=en_US&start=1&sz=24

The black one NEVER goes on sale.

I've had my current Patagonia coat since 2008. Still hoping to squeeze 1-2y more out of it. Wear it every day during colder weather, so I'm willing to invest.

Did cheap out on rain pants/coat for my bike commute, but I don't wear those that many days, and not for very long. Those things will probably last 10y anyway.

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« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2017, 12:20:25 PM »
This is something that took a while to embrace even when the dollars-and-cents ROI isn't quite as clear (when it is, well duh, go with the better actual-value product).  Especially when it's related to income.

My GF's photography gear is a good example. 

Her refurb $1100 (would have been $1849 new-new) laptop is way way better at Photoshop than her old 2010-era Thinkpad that could still do it but had a shitty display and was kind of a pain to use.  This means she's more likely to actually edit her photos during work travel when she has downtime.

Her newly-built $1700 desktop at home is probably 50% faster than her old 2011-era machine, and with much fewer stupid wrinkles (like broken USB ports or failing SATA controllers).  She's still "able" to do the same amount of work on it, but it's faster and far more pleasant, which means she *wants* to do more work on it. 

Same for her new-last-fall $3500 camera.  Her old camera "could" produce nearly the same results, but with this one it costs her much less time after the fact and it's more forgiving of errors in-camera.

We're soon upgrading our internet service to 1000mbps down / 250mbps up (fiber).  Necessary? No, but for $20 extra per month she'll be able to upload client photos literally 50 times faster.  Same bits get to the same places, but way less time staring at a progress bar.

So that's about seven grand in equipment where the same "cheaper" versions could probably be had for a third of that and technically be capable of the same thing.  None of these on their own directly allow her to make more money, but it means she can make the same amount of money in less time.  Why work 25 hours a week when you could work 15?  Or, some weeks work that 25 but make more money.

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« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2017, 01:26:23 PM »
We go mostly middle of the road with all our purchases or I wait until I find the perfectly affordable deal on an higher end item, like a mattress, a higher end computer with specific features.

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« Reply #36 on: June 21, 2017, 02:00:23 PM »
Exoficcio underwear and under armor shirts. Two of my non negotiable items that last much longer than buying the cheap crap. And BOYYYYY do they help in this Carolina heat.

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« Reply #37 on: June 21, 2017, 02:19:24 PM »
Interesting topic for what I am going through now with my windows.

I am going to pay about the cost of a low grade vinyl window to have my original wood single pain windows stripped, reglazed, painted, new weatherstripping, cords replaced with bronze chain, etc.

I already have storm windows so the energy efficiency will be the same as a double pain. But these windows just celebrated their 90th birthday and will last longer than the new vinyl windows.

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Re: Buying better but way more expensive things...
« Reply #38 on: June 21, 2017, 03:17:18 PM »
^ This.  I have several pairs of really nice shoes that have lasted 8+ years with only a couple of resoles.  Plus they just feel so much better.  I'm finally at the point where I think the repairs will cost a significant portion of the cost for new ones and am therefore shopping high end with no remorse.   
Sometimes it's not about the cost ... it's about features you need. 

I have a foot condition that is completely manageable ... with very specific shoes, which happen to cost about $100/pair.  No, these shoes don't last longer than average shoes, but what's it worth to walk without pain?  I'll pay. 

I fought this battle last month when we decided on granite countertops for our kitchen renovation.  Laminate would have been MUCH cheaper but yeah it's laminate.
Hate my laminate.  It's been in about five years, and it's all scratched up. 

I'm currently thinking this way about a new beds (mattresses). A few years ago I bought new mattresses at a store - I chose the 2nd cheapest option they had available, they seemed comfortable at the time. Realizing now that they aren't providing great support and aren't that comfortable. But there is such a huge price range, I'm not even sure what's reasonable!
3-4 years ago we bought ourselves a mattress as a Christmas present to one another, and I still lay down every night and feel like I'm melting into the delicious softness as I say, "Ahhhhh".  Definitely a good spend.

I've been thinking about the Big Green Egg. There's a lifetime guarantee, but I don't think I've eaten enough grilled hamburgers in my lifetime to justify the price. And you can only use their name brand products with it.

I could bake a cake with it, but would I? Naw.
Love our BGE, and we bought it with credit card rewards points.  The BGE is all about the accessories, but you can definitely use other brands /other products with it -- some excellent, innovative products are out there. 


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Re: Buying better but way more expensive things...
« Reply #39 on: June 21, 2017, 06:53:46 PM »

Love our BGE, and we bought it with credit card rewards points.  The BGE is all about the accessories, but you can definitely use other brands /other products with it -- some excellent, innovative products are out there.
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I thought if you used non-BGE charcoal it voided the warranty. 

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Re: Buying better but way more expensive things...
« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2017, 01:42:33 AM »
Now I'm wondering if I "cheaped out" on other things that were worth the premium price.  Anyone think I'm nuts for splurging on these?  What have you purchased that seemed too high a premium price but that you decided later was worth it?
Nuts? Absolutely not. I don't think there are any higher priced/premium purchases of quality items that I have made and regretted. On the other hand, there are plenty of cheaper purchases that I have regretted due to poor quality/durability, particularly shoes and clothing.

In terms of maximising value, I tend to buy quality used: for clothing/shoes I tend to be able to get hardly worn/as new at about half price or a bit less. For electronics such as ThinkPad laptops I can get at 3 or so years old at about 20% original price, plus a bit for upgraded components. As others have mentioned, if you buy quality items and later decide to sell them, their value is likely to hold well over time (excluding some clothing etc. that will wear out with normal use). So when I buy quality items I think that it's more of an investment, whereas with cheap items there will be no resale value so the price is a purchase price.

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Re: Buying better but way more expensive things...
« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2017, 05:03:02 AM »
Love our BGE, and we bought it with credit card rewards points.  The BGE is all about the accessories, but you can definitely use other brands /other products with it -- some excellent, innovative products are out there.
I thought if you used non-BGE charcoal it voided the warranty.
Assuming you're in the US, such a tie-in provision is barred federally :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act

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Re: Buying better but way more expensive things...
« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2017, 07:30:40 AM »
Interesting topic for what I am going through now with my windows.

I am going to pay about the cost of a low grade vinyl window to have my original wood single pain windows stripped, reglazed, painted, new weatherstripping, cords replaced with bronze chain, etc.

I already have storm windows so the energy efficiency will be the same as a double pain. But these windows just celebrated their 90th birthday and will last longer than the new vinyl windows.
FWIW, I'd say you're making the right choice on the window front.

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Re: Buying better but way more expensive things...
« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2017, 08:22:13 AM »
I think you should buy *quality* but I don't think that's so evenly matched up with *price*. Some inexpensive things are high quality (or high enough) and some expensive things are junk.

I think that in clothing, a lot of the very expensive stuff, you are paying as much for the branding as for an increase in quality.

Happily, I'm at the point where just about every purchase is discretionary. That means I can think about what will really serve my needs and wait for the right thing to come along.

I did however, just buy a new tv to replace one that overheated and melted. There didn't seem to be much difference, IMO, between the least expensive and the most expensive options, except that the most expensive ones did things that I don't care about.



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Re: Buying better but way more expensive things...
« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2017, 06:14:12 PM »
Tempurpedic mattress - I think when we bought it several years ago, it has 20 or 25 yr warranty. Worth every penny, and would do it again in a heart beat. I know some people do not like it, but we love ours.

 

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Re: Buying better but way more expensive things...
« Reply #47 on: June 23, 2017, 07:49:22 PM »
I bought a very very expensive mattress. Several thousand worth. I have a long term back injury and the mattress has changed my sleep completely. I'd tried one at a friend's place when I was baby sitting and it was completely fantastic, so I knew what I was getting. People's mouths drop when they ask how much it was, but considering that it has actually, literally changed my life, I don't regret it for a second. If you don't have constant low level pain, you might not understand. If you do, you'll know just how valuable it is to be rid of it!

Would you mind sharing the mattress name?

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Re: Buying better but way more expensive things...
« Reply #48 on: June 23, 2017, 08:01:39 PM »
It's easy to cheap out on guns, but the only ones I have pulling nightstand duty are my Glocks and occasionally a tuned Saiga 12. FTF and FTL at the range is one thing, but not when something goes bump in the night!

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Re: Buying better but way more expensive things...
« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2017, 10:30:55 PM »
Kitchen knives. Good ones will last a lifetime and be easy to use. I wound up with Global, could have gotten Shun. And a small German knife for de-boning, sturdier blade but not as sharp.

 

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