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Cottonwood28

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Bike Question: Magna Oasis
« on: July 15, 2013, 06:13:50 PM »
Long shot but does anyone know anything about the Magna Oasis bike? My parents pulled it out of their garage to donate it, saying it needed repairs and they don't ride it. We would really like to try out bike riding and this seems like it could work as a good starter while I build strength and figure out what I would like long term. Only thing is I know nothing about bikes and how much it would cost to rehab this one. They think it needs new brakes, tires, etc. as it has been sitting for quite awhile. Do you think we could get it running for a low cost or not worth it?

Edited to add: Serial number 01TD003262
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Re: Bike Question: Magna Oasis
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2013, 06:42:22 PM »
A quick googling leads me to believe this is a very inexpensive bike, probably around $100 new. It will probably still roll though. Why don't you try filling up the tires and taking it for a ride? Just check that the brakes still work before going very far.

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Re: Bike Question: Magna Oasis
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2013, 08:57:18 PM »
I'll try that this week. We live on a hill though, so overall I need a better bike?

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Re: Bike Question: Magna Oasis
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2013, 09:51:02 PM »
I'd say give it a ride and see how you feel, but if you intend to start commuting by bike I would recommend getting something else. But, this all depends on how much you are enjoying the bike you currently have.

Many new riders that I talk to express a desire to buy a mountain bike, maybe with shocks, but this is a bad idea because, if you buy a mountain bike, it will be harder to ride for any distance and you will be less likely to actually use it. A mountain bike has thick, knobby tires that roll less efficiently on the road and are meant to work on dirt trails. Shocks steal about 15-25% of each stroke on the bike, meaning it is 15-25% more difficult to make the bike move. I'd look into getting a used road or hybrid bike on craigslist.

There are way more knowledgeable people than me on this board and some other boards, too.

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Re: Bike Question: Magna Oasis
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2013, 10:41:30 PM »
I currently don't have a bike but would be using it for errands around town. I would need to be able to pull my son in a trailer and do hills. Our view is great but it takes some work to earn.

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Re: Bike Question: Magna Oasis
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2013, 01:57:16 PM »
Unless it's been sitting upwards of 20+ years, breaks/tyres/etc will be in the same shape they were in when the bike was parked... so, odds are, probably fine. No offence to your parents, but the false memory that "It's no good" develops pretty quickly when you don't really want to dig out the old bicycle and go for a ride.

So what if you live on a hill? You think a more expensive bike will magically whisk you up there?
... okay, yes, yes it will, if you pay thousands of dollars for a fancy electric-assist model. But you're not buying one of those bikes. You're going to take your crappy bike, shift into its lowest gear ratio, you're going to huff, you're going to puff, and... you're going to make it most of the way up that hill! Sorry, but we've got to be realistic here. Give it a couple weeks and you'll be speeding up like nothing. I've always lived on hills; the grade here is such that  in a car, your RPMs double when you pull off the main, flat road, and stay that way for the kilometre or two it takes to get here. People don't want to live here because they're afraid it's too steep for driving up or down in winter. I bike it every damn day. So can you!
Like any vehicle, the frame and the wheels are much less important than the motor. First get the motor working, then see if you need to spend money on the rest.

From googling (is it like this one?) that looks like a fine city bike on the low end. It's the sort of thing I might recommend to a beginning commuter.  As for getting it into shape: inflate the tyres. Do they hold air? Good! If not, you'll need to patch the tubes. A patch kit is only a couple dollars. Make sure you inflate the tyres to their manufacturer's rating, at least. If you have no pressure gauge, don't sweat it; you just want them to feel rock hard. To test the breaks, squeeze both handles to the fullest extent and try and push the bike forward. Does it roll easily, with great difficulty, or only after you break the tyres into a skid? You want one of the second two. Repeat with each brake individually and see if one has more stopping power than the other. If it's reasonably hard to push forward, you're fine! If it rolls easily, make sure that the pads are gripping the rims firmly; if not, tighten the cables. (It should be fairly obvious, but there's guides online for that.) Unless it was ridden tens of thousands of km before it got to you, you don't need to change the break pads. Test the breaks again. Stops better? Good. Now lube up the chain, go for a spin, and move the shifters through their full range. Does it shift into every gear, or at least most of them? If so, good! Enjoy your new bike. If not, clean any accumulated crud off the chain, gears, and dérailleurs, re-lube and try again. If that doesn't work, well, you get to go find a guide on adjusting dérailleurs. Most likely,  all you'd need is to find the adjustment screws and a screwdriver to wiggle them half a turn or so. It's really not hard.
If this paragraph seems like too much work, facepunch. It's (at least!) a hundred dollars worth of bicycle you're getting free, and working with it earns you valuable skills you'd want with any bike, regardless of cost.

"But don't I need a better bike?" -- eventually, the crappy components on a department store bike will begin to fail, and it won't be worth it to replace them all. That takes at least a year of heavy daily use, though; usually more. By that point, you should be more comfortable with bikes and able to decide for yourself what you need (or just want).

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Re: Bike Question: Magna Oasis
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2013, 01:55:29 PM »
Magna is a department store brand.  It isn't worth putting anything more than new tubes and a bit of chain lube on it.  Save the rest of your money for a real bike.

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Re: Bike Question: Magna Oasis
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2013, 02:05:11 PM »
Unless it's been sitting upwards of 20+ years, breaks/tyres/etc will be in the same shape they were in when the bike was parked... so, odds are, probably fine. No offence to your parents, but the false memory that "It's no good" develops pretty quickly when you don't really want to dig out the old bicycle and go for a ride.

My parents are very much like that. I'm lucky I even saw the bike in their driveway as they were going to toss it. They think I'm weird for wanting to use it, but so be it. Free bike! It has probably been over a decade but I plan on trying at least, especially since my neighbor has a pump I can borrow.

So what if you live on a hill? You think a more expensive bike will magically whisk you up there?
... okay, yes, yes it will, if you pay thousands of dollars for a fancy electric-assist model. But you're not buying one of those bikes. You're going to take your crappy bike, shift into its lowest gear ratio, you're going to huff, you're going to puff, and... you're going to make it most of the way up that hill! Sorry, but we've got to be realistic here. Give it a couple weeks and you'll be speeding up like nothing. I've always lived on hills; the grade here is such that  in a car, your RPMs double when you pull off the main, flat road, and stay that way for the kilometre or two it takes to get here. People don't want to live here because they're afraid it's too steep for driving up or down in winter. I bike it every damn day. So can you!
Like any vehicle, the frame and the wheels are much less important than the motor. First get the motor working, then see if you need to spend money on the rest.

You are absolutely right. Until I get out there and put some miles on a bike I have no reason to think I need better.

From googling (is it like this one?) that looks like a fine city bike on the low end. It's the sort of thing I might recommend to a beginning commuter.  As for getting it into shape: inflate the tyres. Do they hold air? Good! If not, you'll need to patch the tubes. A patch kit is only a couple dollars. Make sure you inflate the tyres to their manufacturer's rating, at least. If you have no pressure gauge, don't sweat it; you just want them to feel rock hard. To test the breaks, squeeze both handles to the fullest extent and try and push the bike forward. Does it roll easily, with great difficulty, or only after you break the tyres into a skid? You want one of the second two. Repeat with each brake individually and see if one has more stopping power than the other. If it's reasonably hard to push forward, you're fine! If it rolls easily, make sure that the pads are gripping the rims firmly; if not, tighten the cables. (It should be fairly obvious, but there's guides online for that.) Unless it was ridden tens of thousands of km before it got to you, you don't need to change the break pads. Test the breaks again. Stops better? Good. Now lube up the chain, go for a spin, and move the shifters through their full range. Does it shift into every gear, or at least most of them? If so, good! Enjoy your new bike. If not, clean any accumulated crud off the chain, gears, and dérailleurs, re-lube and try again. If that doesn't work, well, you get to go find a guide on adjusting dérailleurs. Most likely,  all you'd need is to find the adjustment screws and a screwdriver to wiggle them half a turn or so. It's really not hard.
If this paragraph seems like too much work, facepunch. It's (at least!) a hundred dollars worth of bicycle you're getting free, and working with it earns you valuable skills you'd want with any bike, regardless of cost.

"But don't I need a better bike?" -- eventually, the crappy components on a department store bike will begin to fail, and it won't be worth it to replace them all. That takes at least a year of heavy daily use, though; usually more. By that point, you should be more comfortable with bikes and able to decide for yourself what you need (or just want).

I will do all that this week. Thanks for the facepunch. That bike looks close enough to my untrained eyes and nothing is lost trying.