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The amount of crap that American's buy and own is depressing.  One of the stats says over 90% of high school girls favorite past time is shopping. 

http://www.becomingminimalist.com/clutter-stats/



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The minimalists are like MMM but when it comes to stuff. I wish my parents would read their books, they keep so much useless crap, its everywhere in the house....I don't even think they could ever downsize their home with all the crap they keep. They even keep a 1977 tv in the basement that hasn't been used in decades.

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Good list, but a lot of the items are just byproducts of how rich America/Western Europe is.

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Interesting List, but I am concerned about the accuracy of it.  Was reading through and saw Number 18.

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Women will spend more than eight years of their lives shopping

And then thought about it and realize that's a little less than 1/8 of their life, which would equate to about 3 hours every day.  This seemed impossible so I checked the source and what it actually said was this.

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While keeping their families fed and clothed -and indulging in a little retail therapy - the average woman will shop for an astonishing 25,184 hours and 53 minutes over a period of 63 years.


If the average expedition lasted the length of a full working day - from 9am to 5pm - that would be 3,148 days trudging around the shops, or just over eight-and-a-half years.

So, 8 years of 8 hour days.  Which equates to a little more than 2 years of actual years.

Didn't read into any of the others, but I would check out the parent articles to ensure accuracy on any of these stats.

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Interesting List, but I am concerned about the accuracy of it.  Was reading through and saw Number 18.

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Women will spend more than eight years of their lives shopping

And then thought about it and realize that's a little less than 1/8 of their life, which would equate to about 3 hours every day.  This seemed impossible so I checked the source and what it actually said was this.

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While keeping their families fed and clothed -and indulging in a little retail therapy - the average woman will shop for an astonishing 25,184 hours and 53 minutes over a period of 63 years.


If the average expedition lasted the length of a full working day - from 9am to 5pm - that would be 3,148 days trudging around the shops, or just over eight-and-a-half years.

So, 8 years of 8 hour days.  Which equates to a little more than 2 years of actual years.

Didn't read into any of the others, but I would check out the parent articles to ensure accuracy on any of these stats.

Yeah, it includes time grocery shopping to which is kind of dubious. Everyone needs to eat and most people probably spend less time shopping than they would cultivating their own food.

Ultimately it's clickbait. It benefits the proprietor of the website to have people imagining women shoe shopping for three hours a day.

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"There are 300,000 items in the average American home"



"Americans spend more on shoes, jewelry, and watches ($100 billion) than on higher education"


Those two blew me away.   And I was thinking of inventorying my house items.  Would take me a year to inventory!  (I still can't believe or wrap my head around the 300K items)

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On one hand, I like minimalism because I do think that the more crap you own, the more time you spend maintaining it, storing it, blah blah blah, and it just pinwheels. 

On the other, these games about "only own 300 items" or "100 items" or whatever are stupid. 

For one thing, if you were to classify all the stuff I personally own, a large percentage in terms of actual item counts would be tools.  I own a fairly large number of hand, power, etc, tools.  But those tools allow me to be somewhat independant and self sufficient and not have to pay out to others to fix my stuff or otherwise do things that I want or need to be done.  Which to me is sort of a basic tenant of minimalism, that you be somewhat self sufficient.  I certainly am not going to give up a 92-piece socket set or 100-piece bit set in the effort to drive down unit counts of stuff I own; those things are extremely useful (and relatively cheap). 

It's like anything else, all about balance.  Don't buy crap you can't need or can't afford or aren't going to have time for.  But also don't blindly throw away everything or live to an arbitrary number of things because the internet says so. 

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"There are 300,000 items in the average American home"



"Americans spend more on shoes, jewelry, and watches ($100 billion) than on higher education"


Those two blew me away.   And I was thinking of inventorying my house items.  Would take me a year to inventory!  (I still can't believe or wrap my head around the 300K items)

It would be interesting to see what counts as an "item."  My bet is that they are pretty generous based on this language "The average U.S. household has 300,000 things, from paper clips to ironing boards.".  Ream of paper probably counts as 1000 items, A board game counts every little item, etc.

Also, for the Jewelry, watchs and shoes: We spend $99B on higher education, so it's only slightly more and the source was from 2012 so it's highly likely by now that higher education is beating it.  And it isn't too surprising, imo.  You get higher education for 4 years, you get shoes and watches your whole life.

As the other poster mentioned, it's really just overhyped clickbait.

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For one thing, if you were to classify all the stuff I personally own, a large percentage in terms of actual item counts would be tools.  I own a fairly large number of hand, power, etc, tools.  But those tools allow me to be somewhat independant and self sufficient and not have to pay out to others to fix my stuff or otherwise do things that I want or need to be done.  Which to me is sort of a basic tenant of minimalism, that you be somewhat self sufficient.  I certainly am not going to give up a 92-piece socket set or 100-piece bit set in the effort to drive down unit counts of stuff I own; those things are extremely useful (and relatively cheap). 

I'm right with you there in the tools department. Most of them I got for free after my grandfather passed, and although I can't physically use all of them at the same time, it doesn't mean I won't use them in the future.  I do need a better means of organizing them however, but that just equates to a large tool chest rather than many tool boxes. 

Stuff tends to pile up over time if left unchecked.  Amazing how little stuff you really "want" when you aren't engrossed with TV commericals and being bombarded by other advertisements (low information diet).  I'm fairly practical and don't typically use much in a day or week, and I'm surprised how much stuff just got stashed in a drawer or closet somewhere.  It was a great feeling to fill up 8 bags of clothes alone between my spouse and I.   

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"Americans spend more on shoes, jewelry, and watches ($100 billion) than on higher education"

It's a good investment to spend a small fortune on higher education so I can get a high income job and spend a medium sized fortune on a Rolex.

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"There are 300,000 items in the average American home"



"Americans spend more on shoes, jewelry, and watches ($100 billion) than on higher education"


Those two blew me away.   And I was thinking of inventorying my house items.  Would take me a year to inventory!  (I still can't believe or wrap my head around the 300K items)

It would be interesting to see what counts as an "item."  My bet is that they are pretty generous based on this language "The average U.S. household has 300,000 things, from paper clips to ironing boards.".  Ream of paper probably counts as 1000 items, A board game counts every little item, etc.

Also, for the Jewelry, watchs and shoes: We spend $99B on higher education, so it's only slightly more and the source was from 2012 so it's highly likely by now that higher education is beating it.  And it isn't too surprising, imo.  You get higher education for 4 years, you get shoes and watches your whole life.

As the other poster mentioned, it's really just overhyped clickbait.

Sadly, I bet it doesn't count quite as generously as you suggest.  I'm thinking of having gone through my house in efforts to declutter and I continue to surprise myself with how much I have of any given item (clothes to candles to vases).

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10. While the average American throws away 65 pounds of clothing per year

Really?  65 pounds of clothing every year being tossed in the trash?  That seems very strange.  Why wouldn't you give them to Goodwill or something? 
But since most of these types of articles are just trying to make us feel better about ourselves (like reality shows - I might not be perfect, but at least I'm not as bad as THAT person!), I can safely say that not one of these "statistics" is true about me/my family.

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This explains why the "Personal Property" coverage on our homeowners insurance is so ridiculously high. By default it's 70% of the home value, which in our case is $110,000 for a 1,200 sq. ft. townhouse (with basement). I told me wife the other day, "Is it even possible to fit six figures worth of crap in here? I guess they're expecting we buy our furniture from Restoration Hardware or something.

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The minimalist movement actually led me to this site/lifestyle in a roundabout way. And I'll say while some of the books have these 'rules' as a selling point the best ones I've read say that it is about the majority of your possessions being FUNCTIONAL. I think you'd be just fine in the eyes of most minimalists owning tools as long as they are things you actually use instead of buying them because you might need that for a project you might do at some undetermined future date, etc.

On one hand, I like minimalism because I do think that the more crap you own, the more time you spend maintaining it, storing it, blah blah blah, and it just pinwheels. 

On the other, these games about "only own 300 items" or "100 items" or whatever are stupid. 

For one thing, if you were to classify all the stuff I personally own, a large percentage in terms of actual item counts would be tools.  I own a fairly large number of hand, power, etc, tools.  But those tools allow me to be somewhat independant and self sufficient and not have to pay out to others to fix my stuff or otherwise do things that I want or need to be done.  Which to me is sort of a basic tenant of minimalism, that you be somewhat self sufficient.  I certainly am not going to give up a 92-piece socket set or 100-piece bit set in the effort to drive down unit counts of stuff I own; those things are extremely useful (and relatively cheap). 

It's like anything else, all about balance.  Don't buy crap you can't need or can't afford or aren't going to have time for.  But also don't blindly throw away everything or live to an arbitrary number of things because the internet says so.

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The average American woman owns 30 outfits—one for every day of the month. In 1930, that figure was nine (Forbes).

Thirty outfits is a little on the low end for some of my co-workers. I can't even begin to imagine how much they spend on clothing in a year.

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The average American woman owns 30 outfits—one for every day of the month. In 1930, that figure was nine (Forbes).

Thirty outfits is a little on the low end for some of my co-workers. I can't even begin to imagine how much they spend on clothing in a year.

Really depends on how you define "outfit."  I have probably 5-6 pairs of good dress pants, and maybe 15 dress shirts (I get them dry cleaned and so it helps to have a few so you can cover while the cleaner has them...dry cleaning means they last much longer). 

But then I live in a dynamic climate, so we see probably a 100-110* temperature swing summer to winter; you need different kinds of clothes for different seasons.  Sweaters, t-shirts, shorts, jeans...  If you need to dress for different weather throughout the year, you're just going to have more clothes than someone who can wear shorts and a golf shirt to any occasion in SoCal.

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I confess we have too large a house and more possessions than necessary, but 300,000 seems like a lot!

We rarely throw away clothes so 65 pounds a year is the other one that blows me away.

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10. While the average American throws away 65 pounds of clothing per year

Really?  65 pounds of clothing every year being tossed in the trash?  That seems very strange.  Why wouldn't you give them to Goodwill or something? 
But since most of these types of articles are just trying to make us feel better about ourselves (like reality shows - I might not be perfect, but at least I'm not as bad as THAT person!), I can safely say that not one of these "statistics" is true about me/my family.

I'm trying to figure the logistics of that one.  It would take even a frivolous shopper some effort to buy 65 pounds of clothes in a year let alone throw out that much.  My entire wardrobe including uniforms and heavy winter coats probably weighs 200 pounds or so.  And the quote says average, which means enough people are exceeding that number to account for the rest of us who don't buy anything.

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I saw this today, some of the stats seem a little unbelievable.

I really like the minimalist outlook and I find it marries well with some of the MMM philosophy.

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The average American woman owns 30 outfits—one for every day of the month. In 1930, that figure was nine (Forbes).

Thirty outfits is a little on the low end for some of my co-workers. I can't even begin to imagine how much they spend on clothing in a year.

Really depends on how you define "outfit."  I have probably 5-6 pairs of good dress pants, and maybe 15 dress shirts (I get them dry cleaned and so it helps to have a few so you can cover while the cleaner has them...dry cleaning means they last much longer). 

But then I live in a dynamic climate, so we see probably a 100-110* temperature swing summer to winter; you need different kinds of clothes for different seasons.  Sweaters, t-shirts, shorts, jeans...  If you need to dress for different weather throughout the year, you're just going to have more clothes than someone who can wear shorts and a golf shirt to any occasion in SoCal.

This I can understand. I live in the Midwest where a variety of seasonal clothes is a necessity. However, in the case of the coworkers I mentioned, it's very rare to see them wear a skirt, blouse, pants, etc. more than two or three times in a season and yet they still complain that they have nothing to wear.
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