Anyone have personal experience with "Life Leadership" (worried about my Dad)

[foxswimmer]

My Dad recently told me he was starting to get involved with Life Leadership: http://www.lifeleadership.com/

The conversation was awkward. He said at least three times that "it is not a pyramid scheme" but then went on to explain the "team" structure (which sounds a lot like a pyramid). He said he wasn't in it for the money, but then kept coming back to how much money other folks are making that have been involved for a while.

Google searches turn up Life Leadership propaganda, but I did find this older post on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/skeptic/comments/2vv03f/best_friend_getting_sucked_into_the_life/

I am curious if anyone on this forum has had personal experience with Life Leadership (or know someone who has) and would be willing to provide some insight.

Should I be worried about my Dad? I want to have an open mind, but also don't want him to get scammed.

What really got me worried is that this weekend he is driving 10+ hours to Wisconsin for a Life Leadership convention. And by doing so he will miss 2 out of the 4 days that all of his grand kids will be together in the same town for the first time ever.

[Katsplaying]

http://www.culteducation.com/help.html

Pyramid/Ponzi schemes are a variation on cults. If this looks dodgy, it almost certainly is. Check your BBB or state attorney general's office for reports about the organization. Take steps to mitigate financial ruin.

Good luck.

[2lazy2retire]

Should be fine

Absolutely. LIFE Leadership offers a no-questions-asked, 30-day money-back return policy on all of its products.

[Ready2Go]

My brother got involved with this a few years ago.  It does seem a bit like a pyramid scheme,  but in practice my brother just spends a lot of time reading/listening to inspirational type books, and going to conferences where people give speeches about improving their lives. Seems to be mainly middle-aged, middle-class folks looking for some direction in life. Costs him a bit, but there doesn't appear to be any hard sell going on.


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[Insanity]

Believe it or not, some of those groups aren't cults.  They tend to act like a mastermind of allowing like minded people to exchange ideas. 

I have not had experience with any in particular, but I do know from listening to some entrepreneur podcasts they are very helpful in getting people to do very productive things for society.

[druth]

I have some family that has been in it for about a year.  It seems like making the big money is 'just around the corner' all the time.  They also waste a bunch of money on trips to conferences, and on 'inspirational materials'.  I think it's a scam, but I can't see their books so I can't tell you to what extent.  I would say that you should express suspicion but not be too aggressive, but encourage him to keep track of all of his expenses related to LL.  Say it's not a judgement of LL, but just good business sense. 

I suspect if my family were to put together the numbers on all the books and tapes and trips they buy they would realize they aren't making the money they think they are.

[foxswimmer]

Thanks for the feedback thus far ... especially those with personal examples.

I am trying to decide how to approach the subject with him, but agree I don't want/need to be overly aggressive.

Part of me is irked that me and my family will be driving 11+ hours to visit my parents and siblings (one of which is also driving in from out of town) and then I find out my dad won't be there for 2 out of the 4 days of our visit because of the LL conference. And it will be the FIRST time that ALL of his grand kids will be in the same place together. I am just having a hard time wrapping my brain around his priorities ... which got me a bit concerned.