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Anybody grow their own blackberries?
« on: April 27, 2018, 04:47:29 PM »
Tomorrow, I'm planting some blackberry bushes in my backyard, so in a year or two we'll have lots of berries to use for baking and making homemade jam. Does anyone on here have experience with growing blackberries? These plants are semi-erect Triple Crown Blackberry bushes, so they stand up better than the trailing cultivars and they have no thorns, so they should be very easy to harvest.

I read some recommendations about making a wire trellis to train the bushes, but I'm thinking of just using some old plastic trellis that the previous owners of the house left behind so I can save some money. They used it to grow vines, but I think I could weave the canes through the plastic trellis and train it that way.

Anybody with experience know if that would work?

I'm excited about these blackberry bushes, because I used to go into the forest on Hillbilly Mountain when I was a child and pick wild blackberries to eat. They tasted so good and I always picked them at mid-day, so I never had to worry about running into any bears.

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Re: Anybody grow their own blackberries?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2018, 06:48:34 PM »
Not a direct answer to your question but ...

I used to have blackberries in the back yard.

They are very aggressive and will take over.  Every March I would have to hire someone to cut them down several feet and get a burn permit.

So think about containment when planning your garden.

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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2018, 07:49:50 PM »
I don't have an answer for you but I remember picking and eating wild blackberries too.  Fortunately the only wildlife around at the time were rabbits so it was a lot safer for me than it was for you.  I was an adult before I realized that people actually plant blackberries lol.  I guess not everyone can walk out in the field behind their house and pick them.

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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2018, 07:52:10 PM »
Not on purpose ;) They are extremely invasive out here, so they grow everywhere. I'm content to go out and pick them where they go crazy, and put less invasive stuff in my own garden. They're super easy to pick when they grow over water, so a lot of time we'll go out on a boat in the summer and pick from bushes that overhang the water. Thorns are less of an issue then.

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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2018, 08:00:27 PM »
I planned two plants last fall. One is semi-erect with thorns. It gets full sun, and it has a dozen or so berries ripening currently. The other is trailing, thornless with morning sun. No berries, but some new runners. Hopefully next season.

They're both trained to a trellis. I don't think you'll have any problem with a plastic trellis.

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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2018, 08:24:33 PM »
I love blackberries and have blackberries, black raspberries, and raspberries (though the latter keep dying).  They are basically weeds with delicious fruit, so there isn’t much fussing required (which is the only way I have managed to keep them alive).  Any kind of trellis or support is fine - I’ve used poles and wire, and I just tie the canes up with twine every year.  They will grow and shoot runners towards the sun, so either trim back aggressively or prepare for your garden to move over time.  😉

My primary suggestion is to cover the ground with landscape fabric (hard to weed areas covered in canes), and stay on top of trimming out the dead canes (a thicket of thorns makes berry-picking extra fun).  Also, don’t expect them to taste the same as you remember; I haven’t been able to recover that taste from the varieties I found commercially available to plant, but they are still yummy.

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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2018, 08:28:48 PM »
Not a direct answer to your question but ...

I used to have blackberries in the back yard.

They are very aggressive and will take over.  Every March I would have to hire someone to cut them down several feet and get a burn permit.

So think about containment when planning your garden.

Thanks for the advice. I'm planting them next to my backyard utility shed in an area with a stone border. I'm also planning to train them to a trellis to hopefully contain them. I'm been reading a lot about how to prune them to keep the growth under control. As far as I can tell, the trick is to remove the canes after they've fruited, because then they become unproductive. Also, it's important not to let the canes grow too long and touch the ground, because they will put down roots and grow into new plants.

We are planting three blackberry bushes and we plan to keep it a small operation. It'll help that they are thornless, because it will be easier to clear them if they are a problem. It'll be a lot easier to pick the berries too. When I was a kid, I always brought my father's old leather work gloves with me when I went blackberry picking, so I wouldn't get scratched up.

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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2018, 08:36:06 PM »
I have leaned them against all different kinds of supports. Honestly, they are fine without.

I mulch mine with straw to keep out the weeds.

If you wish to propagate many plants for next year, I would space them out a bit, then bend over the tips of the stems, bury them in the soil ( sometimes it helps if they're held in place by a rock) and that will root, creating a whole new plant.  (it's call "tip layering" https://www.extension.purdue.edu/plantpropagation/tip.html  )

At my last house, I planted 3 blackberries that each had 2 stems that I buried and ended up with 6 plants the next year and then doubled them the same way the following year. 

I also added compost to the area I planted and in the spring when they begin to come back.

good luck!

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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2018, 08:55:59 PM »
Heh. To a Pacific Northwest native, it's startling to think of planting blackberries, like on purpose. Most of us have had stand up fights with blackberry thickets. Generally we lose :-)

These are Himalayans, though, with thorns that will go through a boot and stems like iron. I guess there are other sorts. Even the Himalayans are tasty.

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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2018, 09:06:19 PM »
Heh. To a Pacific Northwest native, it's startling to think of planting blackberries, like on purpose. Most of us have had stand up fights with blackberry thickets. Generally we lose :-)

These are Himalayans, though, with thorns that will go through a boot and stems like iron. I guess there are other sorts. Even the Himalayans are tasty.

Wait, our blackberries are stabbier than other people's? Huh. Didn't know that. I totally have had one punch through a leather boot though. And plenty of leather gloves have been lost to them. Tasty though!

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Re: Anybody grow their own blackberries?
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2018, 09:18:04 PM »
Heh. To a Pacific Northwest native, it's startling to think of planting blackberries, like on purpose. Most of us have had stand up fights with blackberry thickets. Generally we lose :-)

These are Himalayans, though, with thorns that will go through a boot and stems like iron. I guess there are other sorts. Even the Himalayans are tasty.

Wait, our blackberries are stabbier than other people's? Huh. Didn't know that. I totally have had one punch through a leather boot though. And plenty of leather gloves have been lost to them. Tasty though!

Yes, the PNW blackberries are Himalayan and very invasive unlike what the OP plans on planting.
Even the Himalayan blackberries are very tasty though - since I used to live in the Seattle area, I can never bring myself to pay for blackberries at a grocery store (they are never as sweet - usually too tart and I'm anchored to the price from the PNW - Free).

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Re: Anybody grow their own blackberries?
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2018, 09:36:41 PM »
Yes, the PNW blackberries are Himalayan and very invasive unlike what the OP plans on planting.
Even the Himalayan blackberries are very tasty though - since I used to live in the Seattle area, I can never bring myself to pay for blackberries at a grocery store (they are never as sweet - usually too tart and I'm anchored to the price from the PNW - Free).

Yes they're invasive, but they're better than the native ones (for eating) and you can't kill them.  For god's sake don't plant them on your own property!  If you want blackberries, find an abandoned lot in your neighborhood and just toss in handful of berries from the sidewalk, and by the end of the following season you'll be able to pick for an hour and not get them all. 

I live about two blocks from a hillside that is just covered in them.  I don't think napalm could get rid of them all.  I could never bring myself to BUY blackberries, like with real money.  That's like buying dandelions for your lawn.

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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2018, 09:38:34 PM »
Heh. To a Pacific Northwest native, it's startling to think of planting blackberries, like on purpose. Most of us have had stand up fights with blackberry thickets. Generally we lose :-)

These are Himalayans, though, with thorns that will go through a boot and stems like iron. I guess there are other sorts. Even the Himalayans are tasty.

When I was choosing a cultivar for my backyard, I read about those crazy PNW blackberry varieties. They remind me a bit of the wild blackberries I picked as a kid. Those just grew naturally in the forest and I shared them with bears, deer, birds, etc. They just took care of themselves.

Triple Crown blackberries were developed somewhere in the South and they are a domesticated strain. No thorns and big, juicy, sweet berries the size of your palm. With three plants, they should be producing about sixty lbs of berries by the third year of growth. Without thorns, though, I'm really going to need to use some netting to keep the birds away from them.

Look at me being all civilized and planting domesticated fruit bushes!

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Re: Anybody grow their own blackberries?
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2018, 09:49:49 PM »
Yes, the PNW blackberries are Himalayan and very invasive unlike what the OP plans on planting.
Even the Himalayan blackberries are very tasty though - since I used to live in the Seattle area, I can never bring myself to pay for blackberries at a grocery store (they are never as sweet - usually too tart and I'm anchored to the price from the PNW - Free).

Yes they're invasive, but they're better than the native ones (for eating) and you can't kill them.  For god's sake don't plant them on your own property!  If you want blackberries, find an abandoned lot in your neighborhood and just toss in handful of berries from the sidewalk, and by the end of the following season you'll be able to pick for an hour and not get them all. 

I live about two blocks from a hillside that is just covered in them.  I don't think napalm could get rid of them all.  I could never bring myself to BUY blackberries, like with real money.  That's like buying dandelions for your lawn.

According to this:
https://anoregoncottage.com/triple-crown-thornless-blackberries/

The Triple Crowns the OP is discussing are quite manageable unlike Himalayans.  I would say one of the biggest problems with controlling Himalayan blackberries is the thorns (and the runners) - with no thorns, I'd have no qualms about clipping as needed.

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Re: Anybody grow their own blackberries?
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2018, 06:23:33 AM »
Blackberries are fantastic in the garden. Just make sure you can mow all the way around them I've seen my bushes sucker 15 feet away from the main bush.

Triple crown is a great variety by the way, one of the best.

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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2018, 06:32:36 AM »
I’m at the edge of blackberry hardiness here and they aren’t doing well. I may rip them out and replace with something else. Raspberries, on the other hand, have done very well once I found a good variety that liked it here.

I wouldn’t bother with a trellis for the more erect ones, it make pruning and weeding more difficult and not gain you much in terms of management.

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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2018, 06:50:14 AM »
Many years ago when a fledgling gardener, on another property, I ignored my gardening books and planted a tiny innocent appearing blackberry crown in one corner of the vegetable garden,a thorny one at that. Then I spent 15 years destroying shoots all over the garden; I became convinced blackberries are eternal,capable of thrusting a foot high shoot from the soil in the 10 minutes I turned my back.
Are you sure your raspberries are dying?  For most types the fruit bearing canes die that year and new ones emerge. I thin out the dead ones in spring; I corral them behind a rope tied on 2 trees and mow canes that pop up in front of that line.
In one brief shining week in July, we can pick 7 different berries. My idea of heaven

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Re: Anybody grow their own blackberries?
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2018, 07:14:26 AM »
Yes, I've grown both thorned and thornless blackberries for years.  They are uber-survivors and need basically no care.  Some varieties sucker so aggressively (10-15 feet away from the parent plant) that I could dig up a dozen or more baby plants per year.  Fantastic if you want to expand the patch or give away plants to friends.  Somewhat a pain in the ass if you are trying to corral them.  You can mow the babies off, but they will keep coming back from the sucker. 

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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2018, 07:31:44 AM »
I'm planning on it in retirement, but we're in Zone 4A, so finding ones that are hardy here is more of a challenge (which is odd, since I've known tons of friends and coworkers who have wild ones at their cabins here in MN and WI). We already have raspberries that are belligerent and numerous, so I'm used to the runners going out 10-15 feet.

We're also planning on setting up some beds for blueberries. My dream is to make some triple-berry port. My first experimental batch of raspberry wine was quite good, so I have hope.

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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2018, 07:43:46 AM »
I have black raspberries at the back of my law as it turns into woods, and they take care of themselves for the most part.  I've just cut out a new or old tree once in a while.

There's a spot back in the woods where there are blackberry bushes.  It takes me 10 to 15 minutes to get to them.  I haven't been back there in a few years, but they didn't appear to be spreading much.  They do have thorns.

When it comes to picking, I like how the large blackberries add up quickly compared to picking the smaller raspberries.  But I prefer eating raspberries.

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« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2018, 07:44:28 AM »
My Mother grew thornless blackberries in her yard years ago. Once they started to bear fruit, they were as big as giant olives! They were beauties. I bought the same variety and planted them at my house and they died. We sold Mom's house when she passed away and the dumb asses who bought the house didn't even know what the bush was and didn't wait to see if something might flower or bear fruit and chopped it down.

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« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2018, 08:04:37 AM »
Another person from the PNW.  I have to battle them constantly!  I plan to be ripped to shreds by the end of next week :(

My mom grows thornless ones though, along with her huge wall of thorns (there when they bought the house).  The thornless are much gentler about pruning.

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« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2018, 09:05:57 AM »
We have a thornless variety that sounds very similar to what you are planting. We like them very much. Very easy to care for.

These are not the sprawling plants others are talking about. These have an underground, shallow crown, where the canes come from. New canes grow every year, but the crown never really spreads out very much (about 2 feet in diameter). If allowed, the canes will grow, reach the ground, and take root, forming another underground crown. Seeds will also fall, and create plants. Both are easy to deal with. I dig them up and start another row, or give them away. I now have 2 1/2 rows of them. Grass grows up to 2 of the rows, while the third row I started is in the garden, which I rototill. I prefer the garden rows, and I am going to start tilling the grass around the other 2 rows starting this year. In 20 years, I have probably given away about 150 plants or so. I could have easily mowed them, or tilled them, but I still see them and go out of my way to save them to give to someone else.

They are a 2-year cane. Year 1 produces a long cane. You will want to trim that cane when it gets about 4 feet tall. Simply make 1 snip, taking off the tip. The piece you take off can vary, based on how late you are. I have taken a couple inches off, all the way up to 1- 2 feet to get the cane to sit about 3 1/2 feet tall (the cane arches, so its length will be about 4 feet).  It will thicken and concentrate the energy on creating side shoots on that cane, which is where the berries will grow. That cane will then produce berries the second year. Some years a lot, others not so much. You will get a pretty good idea of next years yield based on the size and condition of the 1 year canes toward the end of summer.

As the first year canes grow, you will start to see last years canes flower. Those will be the berries. They will turn from green, to red, to black. When they first turn black, they are still very sour. Birds and bugs leave them alone until they turn sweet. It is always a bit of a dance.... sweet berries are often covered in bugs(lady beetles and small black bugs mostly). They still taste good, but the cells the bugs were eating do have a bit of an "old fruit" taste. We have developed a taste for the sour fruit. We actually prefer the taste, and are usually bug free. We have never had a bird problem. I have no idea why (SE Wisconsin). They freeze very well, and I have pulled out 4 year old frozen berries and made great jelly. Made a pretty good wine once, but you need an ice cream pail full for 1 gallon of wine.

When the second year cane is done producing, cut it at the base in fall. After the first freeze it is easier to tell the 2nd year cane (about to be dead), with the first year cane (next years producer). While there is still foliage it is sometimes hard to tell the difference. We have ran out of time and done it in late winter/early spring, also with good results. One bit of advice: never trim them up while there is foliage. The first year shoots are what greens first in spring, and they are VERY delicate. You will destroy next years yield if you are trimming out old cane while breaking off first year canes. You will also destroy the flower buds very easily if you brush up against them, knocking them off and destroying this years fruit.

Have fun and enjoy!

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« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2018, 09:53:20 AM »
I don't think this is what you meant, but here the blackberries grow themselves - so much so that every year, when I come to weed the garden so I can plant stuff in spring, I have to pull yet more expansionist blackberry stems out where they have grown in big arcs and tried to root themselves in the garden bed.

I think I read somewhere that if you cut back the new arcs that grow (before they touch the ground in the new place, preferably), then they grow more berries.

So yeah, watch out for invasiveness. But also, prepare for deliciousness. Mmm, bramble jelly...

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« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2018, 10:09:28 AM »
Look at me being all civilized and planting domesticated fruit bushes!

I'm sure they'll be wonderful, it's just hard for me to fathom dedicating yard space to blackberries when there are acres of wild ones growing within walking distance of my home.

Of course, I say that even though I have an apple tree and four blueberry bushes in my yard despite having abundant free-to-pick alternatives in town.

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« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2018, 11:42:20 AM »
Slight hi-jack: can you tip layer raspberries?

@radram you mentioned you’re also in SE WI, do you happen to know what variety you have? I’ve not liked the ones I planted, if they even made it through this winter.

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« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2018, 08:32:00 PM »
Look at me being all civilized and planting domesticated fruit bushes!

I'm sure they'll be wonderful, it's just hard for me to fathom dedicating yard space to blackberries when there are acres of wild ones growing within walking distance of my home.

Of course, I say that even though I have an apple tree and four blueberry bushes in my yard despite having abundant free-to-pick alternatives in town.

One of the interesting things about talking with people on this forum are the different experiences people have due to living in many different places. Folks from the PNW are immediately horrified at the thought of cultivating blackberries, because their experience with the plant comes from a really invasive form of it that causes havoc. I guess everyone sees things from their own perspective.

It reminds me a bit of how hillbillies always want to cut down as much forest as they can to use the wood to make money and then get angry when flatlanders block them from doing so. In the hillbilly's mind, there is forest everywhere in the entire world, so what's wrong with cutting some of it down to get some cash for your family. To the flatlander who lives in a crowded suburb where all the forests were cut down long ago, the remaining forest is a treasure that has to be protected at all cost.

Everyone sees things in a way that matches their culture and experience.

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« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2018, 10:58:35 PM »
Slight hi-jack: can you tip layer raspberries?

@radram you mentioned you’re also in SE WI, do you happen to know what variety you have? I’ve not liked the ones I planted, if they even made it through this winter.

Sorry, I don't. They were here when I got here.

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« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2018, 07:59:31 AM »
My grandmother grew Triple Crown or something very similar on a simple trellis of metal fence posts and wire - probably electric fence wire judging by gauge. She had more berries than she could handle for 30 years straight.

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« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2018, 08:13:39 AM »
At my old house, I planted Arapaho and another variety I can't recall. They did really well with minimal care and produce a good quantity each year. At my new place, I put in Chester, Ouachita, Prime Ark Freedom, and Triple Crown (all from Double A Vineyards), but it is too soon to tell how they are doing...although the deer seem to really like eating the plants.

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« Reply #30 on: April 29, 2018, 11:27:22 AM »
@furrychickens  yes you can tip layer raspberries

My triple crowns weren't invasive; they do have beautiful large fruit.

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« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2018, 04:38:32 PM »
I don't grow my own, but my neighbourhood is effectively overrun with the things, so I get an abundance of free fruit every summer.  If you do grow them I recommend a sunny spot with lots of water - for maximum tastiness.

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« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2018, 07:20:43 PM »
So far I only tried raspberries and killed them every time. Yesterday I picked up a blackberry at a garden fair in town - I think I'll try it in a different spot in the back forty by the ditch and use one of the pretty Aldi trellises.
It already has blooms and some fruit ripening - maybe I'll have better luck with blackberries.


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« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2018, 07:16:59 AM »
No thorns and big, juicy, sweet berries the size of your palm.
What?!  Do you have really small hands or do these really get to be the size of the human heart?

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Re: Anybody grow their own blackberries?
« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2018, 07:56:24 AM »
Shaking my head at everyone from the PNW giving grief that WTC is planting thornless blackberries. We have a 50' row of thornless blackberries at our house, despite also having tons of wild blackberries on our 8 acres. There's no comparison between the two. I can fill a gallon bucket of the domesticated blackberries in 15 minutes, and every one will be deliciously plump and sweet. It would probably take me two hours of fighting brambles to pick a gallon of our wild berries, and half of them will be quite sour. We still pick the wild ones, because they're there and I hate to see them go to waste, but I much prefer our domesticated berries (which I dug up, for free, from a friends' house).

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« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2018, 09:06:10 AM »
We had wild native blackberries where I grew up and I've also lived in Seattle, so I've eaten both. I think the natives are smaller and sweater, and definitely less thorny/mean than the Himalayans. Where I grew up we used to purposefully propagate the berries in the woods so that our patch would get larger for future years. My first summer in Seattle I was amazed by the berries everywhere, eventually a local told me that we were at war with those berries...

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« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2018, 09:19:56 AM »
I feel bad about raining on your parade, WTC: planting the blackberries is a wonderful idea! I was just amused at the difficulty of rising above one's native preoccupations.

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« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2018, 10:53:51 AM »
You should do it if you enjoy blackberries. I understand other's people's POV. We have a wild blackberry that started growing in our side yard which engulfed and killed a rose bush. I was kind of mad at it. But rather than cutting it down and replanting rose, I'm keeping the blackberry bush, and cut it back every year. They have pretty white flowers in the spring (right now). When the berries come in the kids snack on some of the berries; wildlife eats the rest. And i'm sure whichever ones you plant will be less sour than the wild variety.

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« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2018, 11:18:15 AM »
Heh. To a Pacific Northwest native, it's startling to think of planting blackberries, like on purpose. Most of us have had stand up fights with blackberry thickets. Generally we lose :-)

These are Himalayans, though, with thorns that will go through a boot and stems like iron. I guess there are other sorts. Even the Himalayans are tasty.

Yep. We have a thatch in the front yard that we harvest, plus we walk down to the lake. It is a nasty beast!! My neighbors are aghast I refuse to eradicate it (but we do trim it back, several times a year). Basically, as many blackberries as you are willing to pick you can have here in the NW.

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Re: Anybody grow their own blackberries?
« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2018, 11:21:10 AM »
I'm a southerner, and our native blackberries are pretty aggressive and mean, too, even if not quite as much as the ones in the PNW.  Depending on your climate the work will not be growing them but keeping them controlled.  The only real enemy they seem to have is thick shade. 

As a side note, have you ever tried mulberries?  They're kind of similar. 

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Re: Anybody grow their own blackberries?
« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2018, 11:48:09 AM »
How about boysenberries? Anyone grow those? When I was a kid, they used to put them in yogurt but never see them anymore. I did buy some canned ones recently. They are soft and very, very, very seedy.

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Re: Anybody grow their own blackberries?
« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2018, 12:21:13 PM »
Heh. To a Pacific Northwest native, it's startling to think of planting blackberries, like on purpose. Most of us have had stand up fights with blackberry thickets. Generally we lose :-)

These are Himalayans, though, with thorns that will go through a boot and stems like iron. I guess there are other sorts. Even the Himalayans are tasty.

Yep. We have a thatch in the front yard that we harvest, plus we walk down to the lake. It is a nasty beast!! My neighbors are aghast I refuse to eradicate it (but we do trim it back, several times a year). Basically, as many blackberries as you are willing to pick you can have here in the NW.

Oh yes. The one upside of having neighbors who do zero yard work is a good supply of berries hanging over the property line in the summer. That plus infestations in nearby parks is enough to make lots of desserts and blackberry pancakes.

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Re: Anybody grow their own blackberries?
« Reply #42 on: May 01, 2018, 04:05:10 PM »
My parents grow raspberries because it's the only food-bearing plant they're able to grow successfully. Tomatoes and blueberries whither and die no matter how carefully they tend them, but raspberries always flourish with little effort. Blackberries grow wild like weeds around their neighborhood.

EDIT: That's actually not the only plant they grow. I just remembered they also grow peas, which also are very easy to grow in their area.
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Re: Anybody grow their own blackberries?
« Reply #43 on: May 01, 2018, 04:12:17 PM »
I've already run into my first problem with these blackberry plants. Squirrels have started chewing on them. One is in pretty bad shape. I took some old bird netting and draped it over the plants like a teepee using some metal poles I had laying around, but I'll need to get a bigger piece of netting tomorrow at the store to protect them better. Not a great start to this project.

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Re: Anybody grow their own blackberries?
« Reply #44 on: May 02, 2018, 09:00:19 AM »
I've already run into my first problem with these blackberry plants. Squirrels have started chewing on them. One is in pretty bad shape. I took some old bird netting and draped it over the plants like a teepee using some metal poles I had laying around, but I'll need to get a bigger piece of netting tomorrow at the store to protect them better. Not a great start to this project.

Ugh. Squirrels can be a harbinger of doom to a hopeful gardener. I remember trying to grow potatoes in my backyard at a previous house. No dice - the squirrels dug up and ate all of the seed potatoes before they even had a chance to sprout. Luckily, our garden at this house is fenced, plus we have a dog that keeps them at bay. The bird netting is an  inexpensive defensive tactic. Good luck with it.

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« Reply #45 on: May 02, 2018, 09:14:41 AM »
Yay for blackberries!  We have 8 bushes that we planted 6 years ago.  Here's some of my learnings:
1. Use bird netting.  Birds will spot them at 'just ripe' and pick them before you do.  Every.  Time.
2. I would not recommend plastic trellises- berries will not grow where it's touching something and the weather will eat those trellises alive (we tried that and they lasted 1 season).  I now have wooden stakes with grow wires for training them.  works so much better and doesn't inhibit berry growth

Good luck!

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Re: Anybody grow their own blackberries?
« Reply #46 on: May 02, 2018, 09:24:35 AM »
We built wooden trellises for ours. The dogs were eating them before we could but now they can’t reach them.   We love them but they don’t grow naturally here.

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Re: Anybody grow their own blackberries?
« Reply #47 on: May 02, 2018, 10:15:58 AM »
Yay for blackberries!  We have 8 bushes that we planted 6 years ago.  Here's some of my learnings:
1. Use bird netting.  Birds will spot them at 'just ripe' and pick them before you do.  Every.  Time.
2. I would not recommend plastic trellises- berries will not grow where it's touching something and the weather will eat those trellises alive (we tried that and they lasted 1 season).  I now have wooden stakes with grow wires for training them.  works so much better and doesn't inhibit berry growth

Good luck!

I had hardly ever gotten any blueberries off my bushes then I netted them last year.  It worked like a charm until I got too lax about securing the net after picking.  A mockingbird got in and ate even the green ones because he was trapped.  If it happens this year my blueberry bush will be growing cat food. 

Blackberries seem to be able to easily outproduce the birds, though, at least in the South and in the PNW.

We built wooden trellises for ours. The dogs were eating them before we could but now they can’t reach them.   We love them but they don’t grow naturally here.

My parents have a muscadine vine along the fence, and the dog would actually pick the ones he could reach.  It surprised me that some dogs will pick fruit. 

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« Reply #48 on: May 02, 2018, 10:39:07 AM »
My parents have a muscadine vine along the fence, and the dog would actually pick the ones he could reach.  It surprised me that some dogs will pick fruit.

My strawberry patch went from hero to zero the year after we got a new dog.  This year I'm fencing it.

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« Reply #49 on: May 02, 2018, 02:56:12 PM »
I have also heard (old wives tale? farmer's almanac ?) that planting a mulberry tree around other things with delicious fruits will keep birds away. I guess some birds prefer mulberries to other fruits? Plus, a mulberry tree can produce sooo much, there is enough for you and the birds.