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A Tale of Unemployment
« on: September 19, 2012, 05:11:00 AM »
Less than six months ago I was employed with an organization that I thought I would stay with until I achieved FI. Pay and benefits were good. The work was acceptable. The negatives were tolerable.

But the politics were challenging and, two years into my tenure with the organization, I was laid off. I had received good reviews and hit all my targets. This lay off was political and personal. 

My emotional response was intense because I had not planned for losing employment. After all, I had gone 20 years happily employed with multiple companies. It wasn't on my radar to be let go. And therefore my emotional response was intense. To be honest, I still am not sleeping as I should or feeling right.

I got a new job within a month and am sufficiently happy where I landed, thought the pay is far less. But considering most people's stories of unemployment these days, I know I was blessed to get a new job so quickly and with a nice organization.

However, yesterday it was announced at my new job that one of the sales people was let go. It wasn't really a surprise. His numbers were low and productivity in question. But it was interesting to feel my reaction and see how it impacted others. I wasn't the only one hired by this company after being laid off. I looked particularly at these people when it was announced. I thought they were going to vomit.

The layoff taught me two lessons: 

1) when you work for someone else, there is no security. Don't count on years of employment. Don't make that job a part of a long-term plan because, in management's estimation, you are a temporary line item they want to remove if possible. Psychologically, it's best to be thrilled with each paycheck. This will encourage thriftiness and avoidance of debt.

2) do everything possible to create your own income streams. While a primary job may bring in the majority of the cash, at least in the beginning, you need passive income or a side hustle of some sort. The more the better. 

Even though I am still experiencing a great deal of stress since the layoff, I remind myself to live more in the moment and not count on this job. I focus on my own endeavors a little every day and hope those eventually become profitable.

I wanted to share my experience and what I learned. Maybe you've been through something similar yourself and it encouraged you to view employment in a whole new way. Even though I've always been frugal and focused on FI, I still learned a great deal about myself and where I need to be to sleep at night.

Wishing you all well.

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Re: A Tale of Unemployment
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2012, 06:41:09 AM »
Great advice indeed.  I went through something similar a year ago and while it took me longer to find new work, I finally did but at much less pay like you.  And then it got worse when a few months later I was handed a 33% paycut!  So yes, developing additional streams of income is vital, but very difficult to do; still working on it myself.

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Re: A Tale of Unemployment
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2012, 06:56:19 AM »
Just to add a few thoughts of my own:

1. There are worse things than unemployment! Spend some time imagining them.  Especially if you don't have...

2. Put together an emergency fund, if you don't already have one.  It gives you "unemployment freedom" to not feel like you are forced to accept the first job opportunity you see, but rather, can wait until you find one you actually like!  I believe the unemployment statistic counts this as a separate type of unemployment.

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Re: A Tale of Unemployment
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2012, 08:25:53 AM »
At a previous job, while I was preparing to freelance, I was actually *hoping* for a layoff, since it would mean free money (severance package).

It's probably a worthy goal to get to the point where you can feel that way. Not to hope for a layoff necessarily, but to be at peace with the idea if it happens. After all, it's a decision made for you, which is often easier than leaving a job on your own.

PS - when you work for yourself, there is less security. But at least it's more apparent.

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Re: A Tale of Unemployment
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2012, 12:32:57 PM »
Within the first three years of my career straight out of college, I was laid off, outsourced and marked for offshoring.  That had a huge impact on how I approached my finances.  Ever since then, I have lived on about half my income so i could pay off my stupid student loans and then grow my savings.  I never wanted to have to go through stuff like that again without a financial safety net.  Those early career experiences also sparked my quest for early retirement so I wouldn't have to deal with that kind of shit for the next 40 years.

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Re: A Tale of Unemployment
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2012, 01:19:15 PM »
"...when you work for someone else, there is no security..."

This is true. But it's also true even if you don't work for someone else. Most small businesses fail in their first year, which is to say that working for yourself is no guarantee of income. Your stocks can also tank, or real estate can go bust, or you can get hit by a bus. There is never security.

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Re: A Tale of Unemployment
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2012, 01:40:22 PM »
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There is never security.
Very true - the most secure you can be is to develop a range of capabilities which you can either sell or use to survive. 

But you can always be hit by a proverbial bus of course. 
« Last Edit: September 19, 2012, 10:14:51 PM by JJ »

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Re: A Tale of Unemployment
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2012, 01:46:16 PM »
Thank you for sharing your story; I'm sorry that you had to go through that.  It serves as a good reminder to us to not to keep putting off building up a side hustle.  I, myself am in a term-limited grant position that will probably last one more year--although, like your story shows, even that is subject to change at any time.

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Re: A Tale of Unemployment
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2012, 06:09:16 AM »
Psychologically, it's best to be thrilled with each paycheck. This will encourage thriftiness and avoidance of debt.

I completely agree. I've had a stable job with the same organization for three years now, but we've been slowly but steadily downsizing during that same period. I'm sorry that you had to go through a layoff to earn this experience, but I'm glad that you've landed a steady job since then. Also, have you developed any additional income streams?

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Re: A Tale of Unemployment
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2012, 09:54:11 AM »
I'm sorry you had to go through that turmoil, I know how hard those emotions can be.  By all external appearances, my career could be viewed as privileged, easy, lucky, and highly successful.  What most people would never guess is that along the way I was:

1) Given a pay freeze, even though I was considered and rated a top performer by my company, because the company was having a bad year--I was told "your reward for top performance is that you keep your job"
2) Laid off by said company the following year which I would chalk up to power and political changes beyond my control, again despite top performer status
3) Given a pay *cut* at another company, just a few months after being hired--I successfully fought that by arguing that the ink was hardly even dry on my offer letter, but that again meant no raise.
4) At another company, fired 4 months after being hired, rehired immediately (by my replacement, so essentially demoted), and then a year and a half later fired again (after my replacement was also fired).
5) Had a contract position end due to lack of budget with no new contract or job in sight.

Now, I *do* still consider myself lucky and privileged to have had the opportunities I've had.  I also rarely complain, mention or even think about all of those setbacks and challenges.  The emotions were often difficult at the time though, especially the firings which were in my opinion highly unjustified.  It was very hard emotionally to be suddenly without a job, with two babies and a stay at home mom to support.

I was able to land a good job pretty quickly after each of these events though, and I'd chalk that up to developing very marketable skills.  I also chose to enter a field where my position would be a revenue producer, the core of the company's business, rather than something that would be viewed just as a cost, a necessary evil to be reduced whenever possible.  They cannot easily outsource my job offshore.  I've gotten the top possible performance rating for the last two years and likely to repeat this year, and at the company that laid me off I had the top performance rating 5 years straight leading up to that layoff.

The bottom line for me--I agree that there is no real job security today.  You work for yourself, even if you are an employee.  There are a lot of things beyond your control.  Your career lives and dies based on what you have to offer.  I have now worked for five different companies over 20 years, and I am anything but a job hopper--I was with one company for 8 years, I've only quit twice, and one of the companies I quit, I rejoined and I'm still there today.

FI is a great thing and something I very much want to achieve.  I would *looooove* to retire and never have to work again.  I'm not quite there yet.  Until you reach FI, I think it's critical to make and keep yourself marketable, have skills that people want, have stories to tell that make you desirable to new employers, become a top performer.  It is not only going to provide more job security (and I would define that as the ability to get a replacement job quickly), but it will also very likely speed your journey to FI.

Emergency funds and low spending are also great, 100% with you on that.  Things will go wrong, very few people live a 100% charmed life.  Take on the boy scout motto--be prepared.
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Re: A Tale of Unemployment
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2012, 10:08:26 AM »
"There is no financial security".   Seems like the cup half-full rather than a truism to me.  If you said there was not guarantee of good health, well, then I would agree.   There is no job security also seems like a reasonable proposition to me - although for sure there is more ability to manage your skill development for work than to control ill health.

Perhaps it is a matter of odds.  If you work hard in North America and save where you can and don't spend on stuff you don't need and learn to invest, well, the chances of falling into a truly insecure position financially are really low. So low that I don't spend any time worrying about this.  In Canada, we have a social safety net for the truly destitute and additional disability benefits for those who are disabled long-term.  Yes, it is living very low on the scale, but it is probably what some folks on here do live on.  Many countries do not have this.

So, I prefer to approach money and savings and investments with the notion that, yes, FI creates additional security, but the risks to financial security if you focus on them are much more controllable than others.