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"Breadwinning" is bad for your health
« on: August 19, 2016, 09:17:01 AM »
This article only lightly touches on Mustachian ideas near the end.  Basically, escaping gender roles for earnings (men are breadwinners etc...) is better for men's health.

I think we all know the best way to escape it.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/08/winning-bread-ravages-the-male-body/496334/

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Re: "Breadwinning" is bad for your health
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2016, 10:09:43 AM »
Interesting. Dh has been home with our kids for almost the years now, while I work full time. For us and our family, it's an awesome set up. We are all much happier. But I know we are in a tiny minority.

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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2016, 11:15:48 AM »
I think the important thing about that article is how it brought up that anxiety and stress are the real opponents. I don't think it's necessarily the 'fault' of gender identity but rather an overall societal push to provide things WAY outside the necessities of life. If you don't need to make $500k/yr to support your life, you certainly don't need an anxiety inducing, stressful job.

I think it's up to each couple to determine who is going to contribute what, and the line should be drawn mindfully with each person's health and happiness in mind, not with perception of what 'they' expect.

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Re: "Breadwinning" is bad for your health
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2016, 01:32:46 PM »
I'm kinda 'avin a giggle at this here artickle cause it's really obvious that what's going on has nothing to do with the magugligle gender roles but rather most people don't make enough money by themselves. So the men who are the only wage earner feel bad and sad all day. But in the (small number of) families where only the woman works it's because she does make enough. Where's my Nobel Prize Obama

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Re: "Breadwinning" is bad for your health
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2016, 01:53:43 PM »
This article only lightly touches on Mustachian ideas near the end.  Basically, escaping gender roles for earnings (men are breadwinners etc...) is better for men's health.

I think we all know the best way to escape it.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/08/winning-bread-ravages-the-male-body/496334/
Yeah.  Marry a rich woman.

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Re: "Breadwinning" is bad for your health
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2016, 03:01:11 PM »
Good article. Most couples I know that are highly stressed are the ones where one person makes much more than the other or one stays at home. Todays society expects couples to both earn outside the home and fairly equally, when that doesn't happen is when stress is introduced. On the other hand my wife stays at home raising three wonderful kids while I bring home the bacon and things are pretty good.

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Re: "Breadwinning" is bad for your health
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2016, 03:35:45 PM »
The notion of a stay-at-home husband who isn't unemployable, emasculated, or a lazy man-child is relatively new in American pop culture.  Our culture is still playing catch up with the economy.  The idea that men "have to" work and women "get to" work are rooted in a long-gone economy where a middle class family could rely on one stable income and women were expected to stay home. 

Once most families found it necessary to have two adults in the marketplace the culture has started to shift, but it still expected the men to have the higher paying job. 

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Re: "Breadwinning" is bad for your health
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2016, 04:22:36 PM »
I think the important thing about that article is how it brought up that anxiety and stress are the real opponents. I don't think it's necessarily the 'fault' of gender identity but rather an overall societal push to provide things WAY outside the necessities of life. If you don't need to make $500k/yr to support your life, you certainly don't need an anxiety inducing, stressful job.

I think it's up to each couple to determine who is going to contribute what, and the line should be drawn mindfully with each person's health and happiness in mind, not with perception of what 'they' expect.

Well put. Stress is a well-documented killer.

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Re: "Breadwinning" is bad for your health
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2016, 08:23:29 PM »
I only read part of the article because this is a no brainer for me.
As a secure and confident man, I am not intimidated in the least by highly educated or high earning women.
It is quite the opposite, as I am attracted to intelligent and ambitious women.
There is nothing emasculating about staying at home and raising the kids or working part time. This is 2016 and the economy rewards individuals and couples who are flexible and creative with their careers. The way you make money does not define who you are. If you are married to a lawyer, doctor, pharmacist, anesthesiologist, or other high earning profession then it is a financially viable option to save money on childcare and have the other parent stay home, regardless of their gender.

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Re: "Breadwinning" is bad for your health
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2016, 10:46:11 PM »
Yeah.  Marry a rich woman.

Rich or high earning potential. Sugar mommas are awesome. Highly reccomend.