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« Reply #850 on: January 01, 2016, 02:22:16 PM »
Hi everyone, day1 went pretty well despite a few challenges.  Leftovers for breakfast, made and took a veggie omelet on our adventures for lunch and made roast chicken and vege for dinner. I feel great pretty much straight away and the metallic taste is back. Took the kids to the aquarium on a rainy day with thousands of others. The cafe offerings were terrible - kids lunchboxes for $9 with juice, crisps, chocolate fish and a white bread sandwich.  No thanks.  Glad I brought enough snacks to keep us going. Feels great to just avoid the holiday treats still hanging around.  There really is something about removing some of the decisions in our lives. Have cooked up lots of roast vege and ground meat with no flavours that will last me a couple of days. Thanks for the parsley salad idea, caoineag, it was awesome.  I finished it up for breakfast with ground beef and chilli sauce. I downsized my portions by about a third yesterday and didn't get ravenously hungry so will keep that up. Have a family lunch today and will take a salad with ground beef and some nuts to keep me happy. Hope all is well with everyone.  Thanks for the tip about whole30 recipe fb page, mum22boys, I need some more inspiration. Ks

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« Reply #851 on: January 01, 2016, 04:52:59 PM »
Happy 2016 everyone!

Day one is going well for us. Had coconut buzzed coffee and a nice Frittata for breakfast using up a bunch of meat and veggies my sister made for her NY party last night.  Stopped on the way home to pick up a bunch of veggies. Am glad it is only Friday, gives us the weekend for some food prep :)

I also took some measurements this time around, so it'll be easier to track that progress. 

So glad it looks like there are a few of us in this time around :)


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« Reply #852 on: January 01, 2016, 06:47:27 PM »
Day 10 here. Still no cravings and the appetite control is good. Though poor hubby nearly had to start over. I warned him just in time that we can't actually taste the milk solids toasted up when we make ghee because right now we are making ghee to remove said milk solids. He hadn't actually connected the dots between the two and had been planning to try them because he hadn't tasted them before. Fortunately, ghee is the only thing made from non-compliant ingredients in the house and lasts forever so that shouldn't be an issue in the future. Its things like this that make me dread anything requiring 100% perfection.

Hubby was very pleased though that he cooked two different items tonight for supper and both turned out well. I have been cooking up a storm to keep us well fed and he wanted to make dinner for me in order to contribute. He had his own grocery list and recipe cards for today. It was very sweet.

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« Reply #853 on: January 01, 2016, 09:20:21 PM »
Phew, caoineag, that was a close call. I nearly had one today when I was given the wrong coffee at lunch. Looked suspiciously frothy so asked hubby to check and sure enough,  I had been given the flat white and he had my long black. But it was very sweet of our lunch hosts to google whole30 and make a delicious lamb salad for me. Lots of brownie points won there. My planned lunch will now become dinner -lovely, a night off cooking!  Feeling awesome. One of our hosts is a sugar/ carb addict who drinks juice/soda because she hates the taste of water - and she's a nurse. She's in her 50's and starting to worry about her health so she peppered me with a thousand questions.  She's always been very slim so was surprised that she was interested but I guess you never know what people eat and drink behind closed doors!  She even admitted to bags of lollies/candy in the car that she snacks on every trip which I guess could be a couple of times a day. I think I gave her lots to think about. She knows she needs to do better as I bet she sees plenty of diet related horrors through her work. Some unhelpful comments from hubby reiterated that he is not feeling in a supportive mood but at this point I just don't care - I'm doing this for me. Have a great day everyone,  Ks

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« Reply #854 on: January 02, 2016, 11:55:33 AM »
Happy 2016 everyone!

Day one is going well for us. Had coconut buzzed coffee and a nice Frittata for breakfast using up a bunch of meat and veggies my sister made for her NY party last night.  Stopped on the way home to pick up a bunch of veggies. Am glad it is only Friday, gives us the weekend for some food prep :)

I also took some measurements this time around, so it'll be easier to track that progress. 

So glad it looks like there are a few of us in this time around :)

Hey! I'm still here, have been off-the-net mostly. Transgressed on Christmas Day as planned, and popped up to The Number That Shall Not Be Named.

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- 45 miles bike riding since Christmas, hoping to get to 100 miles by next week,
- DW is joining me on the shorter rides and making incredible progress,
- Since Christmas day, we've gone hardcore. New numbers will be achieved!
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« Reply #855 on: January 02, 2016, 11:57:59 AM »
The Season of Insanity Continues it's Endless Cycle:

- The Weight Watchers, Nutri-System and local gym ads abound on TV. Oprah bought into Weight Watchers and is on the commercials now. Must be some good money in it!
- Big increase in ads for what I call "fake health foods" like yogurt and Olive Garden
- OMG, there's pizza ads every five minutes

We made no resolutions here - there's nothing to make. We went back to our preferred lifestyle and are very happy. Being strict is also DELICIOUS!
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« Reply #856 on: January 02, 2016, 12:27:23 PM »
Nice to hear from you, Faraday!

Things are going well, The plan today is to use some coupons, sales and gift certificate hubby got from work for Christmas to buy some good ground beef. We have a pretty good supply of other meats but beef is really expensive here, and most of my other meat is not in a "quick" to use form. 

My food prep plans for the day are bake off some sweet potatoes, make some mashed rutabaga, and maybe make a stew?

The only downside is we are back to struggling with what to make Hubs for breakfast. He's not big on the coconut buzzed tea - he likes everything black. So besides breakfast, getting enough good oil in him is a challenge too.

He has been doing really well for breakfasts lately, so I think we'll keep up with what he has been doing (even though it is not strictly whole 30 approved due to the idea of SWYPO) I have been making Flax pancakes which is basically just ground flax, coconut oil, coconut milk, baking powder and egg with a bit of warming spices and vanilla. He usually has these with a little bit of homemade no-sugar applesauce and some almond butter.  The plus side is these heat up in toaster oven really well, so when he is up at 5:00 to get ready for work, I don't have to get up and make a full breakfast he will enjoy less. 

I also justify it because he is eating a lot of healthy foods that he would otherwise have a hard time eating. So as long as the nutrients get in him, and they are all compliant, and surprisingly low-carb, I'm not going to worry about it :)

He is getting some external motivation though, he ran into one of the guys he has done project work with but works out of another part of the plant, haven't seen him in three or so months and the other guy asked if he was losing weight, cuz he looks great! His response has been "I've been cutting out sugar" and going deeper into it if anyone is curious to know more.

How is everyone else doing?


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« Reply #857 on: January 02, 2016, 12:41:31 PM »
I've been vegan 6 years and did a little research on whole 30 when my gf told me she'd be doing it for January. I'm in it to cut out alcohol and sugar, but would find it extremely difficult to work a plan that excludes nuts, seeds, legumes, soy, and gluten. I found a modified grocery list but think I can manage without gluten and limiting processed isolated soy sources. Following this thread.

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« Reply #858 on: January 02, 2016, 01:12:37 PM »
I've been vegan 6 years and did a little research on whole 30 when my gf told me she'd be doing it for January. I'm in it to cut out alcohol and sugar, but would find it extremely difficult to work a plan that excludes nuts, seeds, legumes, soy, and gluten. I found a modified grocery list but think I can manage without gluten and limiting processed isolated soy sources. Following this thread.

Welcome, surething22! You do not need to cut out nuts and seeds to do a whole 30 - Unless they show up as being a problem food for you.  There are also vegetarian/vegan suggestions for doing a  "Veg" Whole 30 http://whole30.com/2015/06/veg-whole30/

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« Reply #859 on: January 02, 2016, 02:54:14 PM »
Welcome surething22.

Great to have you back Faraday.

Today I stocked up at Costco. Now I have a happy pantry full of tuna, tomatoes (fresh, diced, and fire roasted), marinara sauce, salsa, nuts, olive oil, and fruit.  Today I'm making the spicy tuna cakes from NomNomPaleo and chicken fajitas, which I'll eat over my braised cabbage that I still have left. Oh, I'm also cooking up my turkey breakfast sausage, which I'll use with my eggs each morning for the week.  I'm also going to make mayo, and then some yummy deviled eggs!  I can't believe that I've never made deviled eggs while on the Whole30...I. LOVE. THEM.  Excited to get the homemade mayo done and eat those lovely eggs. Tomorrow I'm going to make the chocolate chili from Well Fed (I think it's in the Whole30 book took).

This time around I'm going to write down the food I eat each day. I want to try and get into a 3-month cycle where I can reuse the menus each 3 month. I'm sure I'll have some repeats of menus, but I know it will be easier for me to stick with it if I have a plan for my menus.

Looking ahead in my calendar, this coming week I have a birthday lunch for a friend from work. Normally I would give an excuse to not go, but I won't with this lunch because she's a good friend. I have no idea what restaurant we are going to so I'm a little concerned. I'll have to just play it by ear and see what I can find to eat.

Oh a side note....I finally had time over the holidays to get my pictures from my camera saved to my laptop. My boys had taken a picture of me while on our vacation this summer. I wanted to cry. It was taken after my first Whole30 in July. I've lost more weight since then, but it was still hard to look at. It was a great motivation to never go back there again.  I'm actually thankful for these little reminders that I need to change, and WANT to change.

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« Reply #860 on: January 02, 2016, 05:47:02 PM »
I've been talking to my wife about doing this again (had the second post in this now huge thread! haha).

I'd like to do a longer trial of it because I really think that food affects my overall energy. I'd like to isolate that to what food does it.

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« Reply #861 on: January 02, 2016, 06:18:01 PM »
Day 11 today. For lunch I suddenly decided I was on strike for cooking. I had plenty of things I could cook and quickly, but I was still on strike. First time since starting the Whole 30 but I had done research ahead of time on what restaurants would be safe (because I know that my greatest enemy is my impulsive nature) so I turned to my husband and asked which restaurant he wanted to hit. We decided to go with the one we trusted most to keep the cheese off our salad and had a glorious steak salad. Given restaurant portions, tea and a few pieces of fruit (if that) will be supper but so worth it and kept me from breaking the diet. I knew at some point I was going to have to contend with me wanting to eat out but was surprised how little warning I had before it hit. Funny part was no cravings, just suddenly decided I DID NOT WANT TO COOK (this apparently included microwaving anything already prepared or just eating some raw veggies).

*Sigh* Knew I would be fighting my own impulsive nature eventually, was just amazed that it took this long. I even know what triggered it. Hubby was hungry and I was starting to get there but I was ready to start my list and head out the door. I don't like being delayed (yes, I know it took longer to go to a restaurant and eat but clearly I allow for that because I like the experience of eating out).

This is why I prepared for this for 2 months. I knew at some point I would have to eat in places that were rife with bad choices and still have to make good ones. Good news is the impulse now satisfied should be tame for a little while and we have plenty of things to make in the future. I do have a number of restaurants that are safe to eat meals at but I really want to stay away from restaurants as much as I can because the risk of breaking compliance is much much higher there (I can make the right choices, but restaurants aren't always perfect in their cross contamination of items).

On a more positive note, I am making a lot of progress on my fitness goals again and was impressed at my length of run this morning so the energy levels are back up.

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« Reply #862 on: January 02, 2016, 09:27:12 PM »
Oh a side note....I finally had time over the holidays to get my pictures from my camera saved to my laptop. My boys had taken a picture of me while on our vacation this summer. I wanted to cry. It was taken after my first Whole30 in July. I've lost more weight since then, but it was still hard to look at. It was a great motivation to never go back there again.  I'm actually thankful for these little reminders that I need to change, and WANT to change.

I was building a new media center PC today (well, it's new software, old hardware) and came across an old selfie of me, a head-shot with my head and shoulders. Of course I've seen plenty of my old pics, but right now, right after the holidays, I know exactly what you mean: a great motivation never to go back there again. More, a great TERROR of ever going back there again, because back there lies sickness and pain that I just can't ever deal with again...
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« Reply #863 on: January 02, 2016, 09:44:00 PM »
I empathise with the horrible photo experiences. Every time I have started a diet it has been because of a photo that made me see the truth of my situation.  Our wedding photo is sitting on Mils shelf and every time I see it I see happiness and my fat. Makes me sad to think I couldn't be slim for my wedding day (nearly 10 years ago) but I honestly tried using the good old whole grains, low fat approach and ended up fatter than when I started.  Feeling fortunate that I have the recipe now for not being 'fat and forty'. Day 3 has gone well for me. I felt more tired than everyone else after a 2 hour hike but nothing serious.  Leaving the house of xmas cake tomorrow for my parents house again. Only there for three days before heading home but bracing myself for the usual food/emotional bullshit that I enjoyed over Christmas. By Friday I'll be home in my own bed with my own food and my own kitchen and I CAN'T WAIT!!

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« Reply #864 on: January 03, 2016, 02:08:23 PM »
Caoineag - A big part of the whole 30 is getting to know yourself, your habits, beliefs, limitations. I would consider the fact that you knew you tend to be impulsive sometimes and planned for it as a success!

Day 3 here. I have to admit to having my sleep go for a shit over the holidays, and I'm not back on track yet, so feeling a little tired and out of it. It is amazing how much sleep affects things!

Didn't make it to the store yesterday, made a big pan or roasted root veggies. Last of the beets from the garden. Thought they would last a while - ended up eating em all for dinner.

The plan for today is to make up a compliant  a taco salad.

Hubs spent some time yesterday looking through and marking recipes. This is a big help, he has been frustrated, he feels like he can't help out as much because most of what he is comfortable making is "comfort" food that we can't eat.  Hopefully we'll find some good recipes :)

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« Reply #865 on: January 03, 2016, 08:50:02 PM »
Basically doing primal over here.  I have to go back to work tomorrow, so I've got yogurts, veggies, soups and egg salad all ready to go. 

I really needed this time off to decompress, apparently, and it's making eating the right things easier.  There's a quart of vanilla Haagen Daz in the freezer from our Christmas day pie extravaganza.  At first I was going to throw it out, but OTOH, I am completely untempted by it, so I've left it there in case DH wants it when he gets home.  Of course, not wanting to eat ice cream is easier when the daytime highs are like 20F.  Feeling like I've got a pretty good balance right now where I'm happy with what I'm eating, but don't have to spend the mental energy on being super strict, so I'm able to turn more attention to exercise.  Have walked/ran about 14 miles and done one strength workout in the last four days.  I signed up for a race on the 23rd, so that should be good motivation to hit the road even if it's dark or cold (I draw the line at dark + icy).


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« Reply #866 on: January 04, 2016, 02:04:24 AM »
Starting a Whole30 in the morning with my daughter :-) Apparently I am not yet capable of flying on my own steam after my Whole60 from mid-October to mid-December. I definitely succumbed to the siren song of The Season of Insanity. SO STUPID!
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« Reply #867 on: January 04, 2016, 07:53:36 AM »
Happy you are joining us 1967mama!

I hear you about the Siren Song of the Season of Insanity. I'm speculating, but I think one of the reason whole 30 works is it takes away a lot of the decision making. When something is not allowed, it is not allowed. When you aren't on it, you have to examine and weigh  every single food choice you make. I wasn't aware of how many of those choices come up in a day, it is exhausting! With willpower being a finite resource, it's no wonder it can be so tough!

I found I was okay with the big, obvious stuff - but I still struggled with the smaller seemingly less bad decisions (A little cheese here, a little cream there, an insignificant (or sometimes significant bit of sugar)) but it does all add up and compound! I think the fact that wheat/gluten is on the "can't have" list still that makes it easier for me. I wouldn't want to have to be making decisions about that stuff.

Today is day 4, I don't really notice the days anymore, which is a major shift from the first Whole 30 where every single day seemed momentous :)  I did finally sleep well last night and have a full night of sleep. We'll see how the energy levels are throughout the day.

I think the key to success for this round will just be keeping a wide variety of veggies prepared and ready to go so I'm not starting from scratch every time I want to cook.  I made some extra onions, peppers and zucchini when I made Taco salad last night, so that should help. Today I'm going to make some more roasted veggies, some flax cakes for hubbies lunch, and ...well not sure about dinner.

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« Reply #868 on: January 04, 2016, 08:46:13 AM »
I've been talking to my wife about doing this again (had the second post in this now huge thread! haha).

I'd like to do a longer trial of it because I really think that food affects my overall energy. I'd like to isolate that to what food does it.

Common ender and wife!  Join the fun!  I'll likely go into February too, so you'll have good company even if you start a little later.

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« Reply #869 on: January 04, 2016, 04:01:23 PM »
Hi everyone, swick you are so right about the burden of decision making. Life seems easier on whole30 because while I'm still surrounded by bad food, it's all a no, which makes it easy. I'm having a fun summers day at the cricket with my family.  Packed my egg salad, nuts and grapes. I don't have a lot of compliant food available but we're heading home tomorrow so I'll survive.  Hope everyone well. Ks

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« Reply #870 on: January 05, 2016, 07:51:49 AM »
How is everyone doing today?

I'm very disappointed that Hubs woke me up right before I was about to dig into a  homemade dream scone piled high with sliced raspberry and whipped cream. Very curious how it would have tasted.

In waking life, food has been pretty good though.

Yesterday:
Breakfast - I had a coconut buzzed coffee, Hubby had monkey bowl with homemade applesauce
Lunch - I had duck eggs with turkey bacon, sauteed peppers, onion, zucchini, salsa and avocado. Hubs had left over Taco Salad
Dinner - Mashed rutabagas with roasted garlic, hamburger patties and Carnival Squash.

Today:
Breakfast - Currently drinking a glass of hot lemon water, will follow up with coconut buzzed coffee or tea. Hubs had flax pancakes with apple sauce, almond butter and some coconut cream.
Lunch - Probably some sort of veggie/egg dish for me, Hubs took leftover taco salad filling on some roasted sweet potatoes and a side of rutabagas.
Dinner - Ragu with zoodles.

Tomorrow:
Breakfast - Same as above
Lunch - Leftovers from dinner or using up various veggies we have.
Dinner - Danish Duck (filled with apples and prunes) and some sort of veggies. I also came across an interesting recipe for preserved lemon roasted potatoes. Probably a bit healthier than the traditional caramelised potatoes!

One thing I have to be very aware about is drinking enough water, I keep thinking I am getting enough but my body disagrees with me.

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« Reply #871 on: January 05, 2016, 11:59:09 AM »
Hi everyone, swick you are so right about the burden of decision making. Life seems easier on whole30 because while I'm still surrounded by bad food, it's all a no, which makes it easy.
+1 - So agree Swick and KiwiSonya! I'm realizing more and more that I'm an all/nothing personality, at least with food. It's so easy to just say NEVER, then "once in a while" because the "once in a while" turns into every day. 

I'm on day 5 and so glad to be back to eating on Whole30. Agree with Swick's comment from a few posts back too. This is getting easier and easier.  It really has become my new normal for eating and once I'm committed, it's not hard, as long as I have time to plan to do my batch cooking. The struggle is how to merge this new normal with my all/nothing personality with my reality that life happens and cheats will sometimes be unavoidable.

Last night I slept so good, until my son crawled into bed with me.  That's never a good thing for my sleep....he moves way too much and wakes me up. But, I just can't send him back to bed after a nightmare. Guess I'll deal with being a little tired today.

My meals this week have been:

Breakfast (all week)- Scrambled eggs with turkey breakfast sausage, using some avocado oil
Lunch (all week) - braised cabbage with onions and carrots, spicy tuna cakes with homemade mayo (LOVE these with the mayo on them, who knew?)
Supper - Chicken fajitas over cabbage with pico and guac
      OR    - Chocolate chili from Well Fed, this is really good chili

Occasionally I'll add either a banana, cherry tomatoes, or apply with almond butter to one of my meals if I'm still hungry.

I've noticed that I need to do better with getting more healthy fats, especially at breakfast. I like avocado and guac, but I don't LOVE it, so unless I'm having Mexican food, I'm not naturally drawn to eating it. My backup has been nuts, specifically macadamia and pistachios. Having the homemade mayo again has also helped with some more fat options. 

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« Reply #872 on: January 05, 2016, 03:00:34 PM »
Agree with the comments about strict being easier.  This is my 3rd W30 (started this round on Jan 4th, so day 2) and I'm going for the W90 this time if not longer. 

I've got some plans in May where I want to be able to drink and relax on the cheese but given my past history with rebounding from W30 to Doritos for dinner I'm going to try and just make it how I eat going forward.  This year make the time off W30 the time constrained exception. 

They now say it takes 66 days to form automatic/habitual behavior and that's what I want eating like this to be.  I know to be successful you have to plan ahead and learn how to say no which I am but my hope is a W90 changes that to my default behavior setting.



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« Reply #873 on: January 05, 2016, 03:27:12 PM »
Mom22boys - Getting enough fat in the morning for me was a struggle until I started blending up some coconut oil and coconut milk into my morning beverage (works with coffee and tea) Now I find it satiating enough that I am putting off making real food till lunch time, not sure if that is a good thing or not?

I hear you about merging a "new normal" with the all or nothing personality type! This will be my journey too. I always use to wish life would be so much better if it were easy to redirect the "all or nothing" mentality to say eating really well or exercise, but it seems to be a little gremlin much more interested in doing what is not best for me.

CryingInThePool - What would you say were your biggest challenges going off your other Whole 30's that made you rebound to Doritos for dinner?

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« Reply #874 on: January 06, 2016, 04:00:40 PM »
Biggest challenge and what I'm hoping to fix by going to W90 was the idea that after the 30 days is up I can eat what I want again. 

Not saying on day 33 it was Doritos for dinner but a slow slide after its over from reintroducing cheese and rice to a month later when I didn't plan ahead just saying 'Oh i don't have time I'll just grab some chips and eat in the car'.    This will be my 3rd whole 30 and I loved results of both of previous ones;  I just need to make the changes permanent and not let there be long lapses between W30s. 


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« Reply #875 on: January 06, 2016, 04:31:39 PM »
Cryinginthepool - That is exactly what happened to me after my Whole60, with the Season of Insanity (Christmas, etc).  I am back on another Whole30 and am feeling So. Much. Better.  I think I can do ok with reintroducing healthy foods such as rice and trace sugar, etc but it was when the Christmas treats rolled out that I broke. Sugar addiction has been a very hard thing for me to break.

Today I have eaten the following:

Breakfast - 2 eggs and a giant handful of spinach, nuked. 1 banana.

Lunch - can of tuna with Whole30 mayo and celery

Snack - smoothie made of coconut milk, banana, pineapple, date, papaya == very indulgent and sweet but hit the "sweet" spot for me

Dinner - beef stew bubbling away in the oven with 4 lbs of my delicious grass fed beef. Also, bone broth going in the crockpot from last night's chicken and roasted vegetables. 

Plan for later snack - monkey bowl or apples with almond butter

Lots of tea today. Stopped caffeine by 1pm, but my goal is noon.

So simple yet so satisfying.




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« Reply #876 on: January 07, 2016, 12:44:15 AM »
Hi all, I have survived a twelve hour journey with hubby and small kids. It is great to be home after three weeks, as lovely as our summer holiday has been. Eating has been pretty monotonous this week -so many eggs for breakfast,  lunch and sometimes dinner and raw nuts - will go easy on both of these for the next week. Am excited about the prospect of hitting the food markets tomorrow.  It will probably be expensive because I have been deprived of food autonomy for the past 3 weeks but I don't really care. The cupboards are very bare and I want them to be bountiful and given it is mid summer here that shouldn't be hard. Last night I had to sit through Sugar vs Fat (or the other way around) a BBC "documentary" where twin doctors tried different extreme diets - one high sugar/carb and the other high fat/protein (no fruit, vege, grain). Both lost weight but high fat guy lost 2kg muscle over the month and lost cognition and exertion tests compared to high sugar. My parents were I think trying to tell me they are worried about my eating regime. Problem is, I have a science background and the whole thing was a bogus and completely unscientific study, no controls,  sample size of 2. Tried to communicate this but I don't think they got it. They pretty much believe anything on the tv so I gave up and went to bed. I've given up explaining myself to anyone. Exhausted so off to bed for one of those delicious "sleep like I'm dead" sleeps that I get on whole30. Keep up the good work everyone.

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« Reply #877 on: January 07, 2016, 07:33:24 AM »
Day 7 is off to a fabulous start.  I'm feeling a little light headed, so I'm going to eat more nuts today because I think I may need a little more sodium.

Swick - I appreciate the idea with the coconut milk.  Unfortunately (or fortunately?) I don't like coffee or tea at all. Can't stand it. I love the smell, hate the taste.  Unless of course are huge amounts of chocolate added to them, which kinda defeats the purpose.  :-) Instead I've been trying to have more avocado oil with my scrambled eggs each morning. The good news is that I'm feeling satisfied until the next meal, so I maybe shouldn't worry about it too much.

CryingInThe Pool and 1967mama - totally my life too. I think we're stuck in the old 'diet' mentality, which is that I'll eat this way for a while and then after I lose my weight/feel better/whatever the improvement is....THEN I'll go back to my old way.

Something else that kinda hit me last night is that while I have/had a bad relationship with food, a big part of the issue for me is just plain laziness. Yes, my name is mom22boys, and yes, I am lazy sometimes. That's when I get in trouble.  I get in this bad pattern of not wanting to cook, plan, etc and that just feeds the issues with food. I'm not saying it's bad to be lazy for a day here or there because something we just need a break. My problem is I get into a rut of laziness for an extended period of time.  This is something I've been working on. Part of it is definitely an emotional response to stress, crap around me.

I just want to say again how much I love this group. It's really made me more aware of myself and is helping me improve every day.  Have a great day everyone!

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« Reply #878 on: January 07, 2016, 11:06:42 AM »
Mum22boys, 1967mama and Cryinginthepool, I share the "this diet is a temporary thing" problem too. We can work through it together.  I think that is one of the difficulties about whole30 - it is not designed to be a permanent thing and they don't really give you enough guidance to come up with your own permanent plan afterwards.  I think this is why everyone seems to do a whole 30, drift for a bit,start to feel crap and then do another one. I envisage a life time eating plan that looks like whole30 plus whatever I can tolerate in the dairy department (which might be a bit of goats cheese) plus the occasional planned in advance truly delicious treat (not a daily whatever I can find that is sweet). But first I need to get rid of the excess weight and whole30 is good for that. Have a great day everyone. Ks

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« Reply #879 on: January 07, 2016, 04:06:17 PM »
Awesome insights, everyone!

I got totally thrown off my game last night. Didn't sleep a wink till about 6:30 this morning. Apparently spending 12 hours yesterday in a not very ergonomically correct position whilst exasperating my carpel tunnel with a shitty keyboard was not the best of ideas. But I wanted to get my inbox to zero damnit! 12733 messages later....ugh never again!

Besides being in too much pain to sleep I was THIRSTY like stupidly thirsty, I'm fairly certain I have been getting enough water under normal circumstances but it seemed like no matter how much I drank it wasn't enough. Wondering if there are some toxins being released and my body is crying to get them flushed out? Didn't have any more salt than normal. Weird.

Yesterday for Dinner I made a duck stuffed with fennel and prunes, roasted potato and onions and mashed rutabaga.

Mom22boys - I totally hear you about the laziness kicking in, it seems like eating Whole 30 just makes more dishes and requires more thought/planning/cooking time.  All my fall backs are easy grain based stuff. Yes there was stressful weeks were we survived on Panini's (and really enjoyed it) Taking out the super quick bread-based stuff makes it all seem more daunting sometimes. Also, eating good makes a lot more dishes!

KiwiSonya - Did you do your shop? Happy to be back at home? Sounds like those "Doctors" in the documentary already had drawn their own conclusions before they started filming. I always tend to say "follow the money" Who sponsored the documentary, how did they get paid?  There are tons of great documentaries on how bad sugar is for you! The fact that anyone can deny it these days just blows my mind.

I definitely agree that the problem with the Whole 30 is what happens next. It does kinda feel like we are all meant to find our own way afterward.

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« Reply #880 on: January 08, 2016, 03:14:02 AM »
Hi swick, your meals always sound so exotic and delicious. Have you been in the food business? I love being back home and back to my favorite food shop. I was more rushed than I'd like but still managed to stock up on deliciousness. Lunch was salmon on slaw and I marinated pork belly in coconut aminos and chinese five spice with green beans and new potatoes with ghee. Boysenberries for dessert.  Yum. Zero eggs consumed today to make up for the past weeks overdose.
Sorry to hear you are having trouble sleeping and managing water, Swick. Is your zero email objective part of a bigger declutter.
Regarding the "documentary", I find since joining MMM I have become more questioning and a lot less accepting of "received wisdom". Everywhere I look people are doing what is expected with often disastrous personal consequences.
Bedtime now.  Take care everyone. Ks

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« Reply #881 on: January 09, 2016, 11:55:43 AM »
Hi Everyone! Happy Saturday! How is everyone doing?

We are still in the process of removing non-compliant ingredients from our cupboards. Apparently I missed some "Garlic Salt" that happen to have modified food starch AND sugar in it. How did I know? I saw it out on the counter, hubby had used it on some squash he roasted. Ahh well, he'll still eat it, he's not being as strict whole 30, mainly coming along for the ride on this round :)

Going to do some more veggie prep this weekend so we have building blocks ready to go in the fridge.

Hi swick, your meals always sound so exotic and delicious. Have you been in the food business?

Not officially :) My Dad ran a kitchen, my mom use to own a catering business and I have been cooking since I was about 6.  I decided at a very young age I didn't want to do it for a living, would take all the fun out of it. But I definitely come from a family of foodies, which has made this whole transition really interesting. On the one hand, my mom has been great about wanting to change her own eating and we are all very experimental and comfortable trying new things.

On the other hand, it means that so so so many of our traditions and memories and life revolve around food.  Not to mention the habit of  feeding people and showing love through food. I really miss making my own bread and pasta and some of those more Meditative cooking tasks...I sure don't get the same satisfaction from peeling veggies :)

I'm also having to start from scratch my list of "Impress" dishes,  these are the dishes I know I can make with very little notice and completely wow someone. If anyone has any suggestions for these types of dishes that would be awesome!


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« Reply #882 on: January 11, 2016, 01:01:51 AM »
Hi everyone!

I'm happy to report that my 3rd Whole30 is going great and is pretty uneventful. Its funny when not eating crap starts to feel like normal.  Like today, when we were on a 3+ hour drive with the fam, I packed some cooked chicken, hardboiled eggs, celery, oranges, bananas and Lara bars. And last night, when everyone was eating candy, I had a banana and a medjool date ... MMMMMM! Even little things like tea, without milk and honey, has now become normal for me.

I am now at my smallest size since 2008. From here on in, I will need new clothes (from the thrift or consignment store) because nothing else in my closet is small enough. Pinch me ... am I dreaming??


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« Reply #883 on: January 11, 2016, 04:43:23 PM »
Any whole 30'rs able to join us for Camp Mustache 2016?  Would be totally awesome to meet any of you in person! Tickets went on sale today and I imagine they will sell out pretty quick. http://campmustache.com/

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« Reply #884 on: January 12, 2016, 01:36:22 AM »
Gee, I'd LOVE to attend camp MMM but I don't think my hubby would be up for it :-/

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« Reply #885 on: January 12, 2016, 07:35:00 AM »
Gee, I'd LOVE to attend camp MMM but I don't think my hubby would be up for it :-/

He could spend some quality time with the kids and you could come?

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« Reply #886 on: January 12, 2016, 02:12:28 PM »
I'm considering it but as usual by the time my calendar is clear enough to commit I'm sure it will be sold out.  I already have a 2 week vacation planned in May so I need to prioritize.  Though based on the location it could be in my backyard so maybe I'll just stumble upon it by accident.

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« Reply #887 on: January 12, 2016, 10:21:10 PM »
I did a grocery run tonite and was pleasantly surprised when I looked up at what I'd unloaded from my cart! (Bread for kids sandwiches) Ironic to see all those chocolate bars staring down my healthy groceries. Fuhgeddaboudit!


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« Reply #888 on: January 13, 2016, 11:40:29 AM »
I also would love to attend Camp Mustache.  Just don't think it's in my budget for this year.  The boys and I are planning a big trip to see my brother and his family in the next 1 to 1 1/2 years, so I'm saving up my miles and CC points to pay for that.  After all, I don't want to use my hard earned cash. :-)

I've been having fun this time around looking for and trying new recipes.  This week I made a double batch of Sunday night stew from the Pioneer Woman.  I just left out the Worcestershire sauce and sugar, and viola, yummy stew.  It was a hit with my boys too. Bonus is that half is in the freezer for next month.  Here's the recipe if anyone is interested. I would have made some mashed potatoes (NOT following her recipe) but that's hard to do on a weeknight with two starving boys who want to eat.right.now. Instead I replaced the turnips with potatoes.

http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/sunday-night-stew/

My grocery spending this month has me a little bummed, but then I remembered that I froze a huge batch of beef stew and also chocolate chili from last week, so that made me feel a little better. I'll recoup the savings next month.

I'm also going to try this one, likely next week, if I can find compliant buffalo sauce (without having to ship from Tessemaes)
http://paleomg.com/buffalo-chicken-pasta/

Any other new good recipes?

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« Reply #889 on: January 13, 2016, 02:06:42 PM »
**Bored**Restless**Resentful

Okay, I bet you can tell by the title of this post that the Honeymoon stage is over for me.

It's day 13 of this whole 30, but really, just over 4 months for this new, reformed way of eating. I am struggling.

I have no desire to eat. The kitchen chores seem more chore like because I'm not really getting any satisfaction from the process of making and eating food.  There is no joy and anticipation. I am making food, it tastes good while I am eating it, but I could take it or leave it (and I am making good food, I just have no interest in it) I think if there were some non-people soylent green I would be all over it. A nutritional block of cardboard tasting vitamins/minerals and essentials? Sure I'd be down for that. I've been feeling rather numb about everything for the last week or so. It's taking a lot of mental energy as well, because I know this isn't normal, or I sure as hell don't want it to be!

It's like you spend years and years getting a high from your food, years of emotional satisfaction, joy and anticipation about treats and meals and such. Not to mention the physiological feel good chemical hits and dopamine. Now food is pretty much just sustenance and a source of stress. It's easy to dismiss all the time planning, shopping, cooking and cleaning when you really get enjoyment or that high from doing it...lately it has all been drudgery.

As a result, I have been feeling like crap, probably not eating enough (I think my weight loss has stalled because my body thinks I'm never going to eat again) There is just zero interest.

So wondering if anyone has any thoughts, similar challenges, ideas for a protein powder that would be whole 30 compliant (yeah, I know that is breaking the rules) Really, I'm just looking for ways to get the nutrients in without a lot of hassel while I figure out other ways to replace that joy and satisfaction I use to get from food.

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« Reply #890 on: January 13, 2016, 03:42:46 PM »
Hey Swick, I was feeling that way too.  I think it was part of a larger case of burn-out, but yeah, I usually enjoy the creative process of cooking and it had lost all it's joy.  While going to Soylent might be a little extreme, I think there's some merit in just cooking a bunch of basic stuff and taking the creativity out of the process for a week or two.  Maybe cook a turkey or a bunch of hardboiled eggs or whatever and prep salad stuff and just plan to eat the same way for a  week.  I took some time off from creating meals and just kind of ate ingredients for about a week - cans of sardines, pieces of fruit, baby carrots and that kind of thing.  Then use the saved time on finding something to replace the joy you were getting from food with some other sort of activity (maybe something you already do, but could take some time to appreciate it more?)  Basically, find out what can fill that void, hopefully in a healthy, productive way?

On protein powder - there is plain eggwhite powder without any additives.  That should be technically compliant even if it's not an "optimal" choice. 

On an un-mustachian note, I just bought a sous vide immersion circulator, and that is rekindling my joy in the kitchen, or at least reducing the burden of food preparation.  So far I've made steaks, salmon, hardboiled eggs, and tonight will be pork loin and beets. 

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« Reply #891 on: January 13, 2016, 04:30:31 PM »
Seconding what horsepoor said about 'filling the void'.   I've hit a related stage before too when I unexpectedly had some free time but I'd already planned ahead on meals; suddenly I didn't have any appetite at all.  Once healthy food was readily available and I had a surfeit of time it was all unappealing.   I felt almost bored which seems crazy yet proof that unhealthy eating had moved into the hobby stage.

Don't really have any advice on the substitute nutrients topic but perhaps similar to the FIRE mania/burnout that first hits when you discover ERE/MMM you need to balance your life with activities that remind you why you are on this path?

When similar feelings hit me I'd pick up the phone and call my elderly relatives to say hi.  Or grab a book that I kept meaning to get to and read until I was hungry.  Go for a walk or start researching travel locations.  Now that I'm also in the Language challenge I'd probably go to Duolingo and do a bunch of Spanish exercises.

Best of luck- just remember moods change :)

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« Reply #892 on: January 14, 2016, 11:50:27 AM »
How are you feeling today Swick?  I was thinking about your post a lot last night.  During the holidays, I feel like I was in a similar situation.  I labeled by mindset as 'laziness' and you're feeling more of the 'Boredom'. Obviously these aren't the same, but I think there is a lot of overlap in this.  Kinda like a mid-life crisis where people are in need of a change (hopefully a good one :-)) and that triggers different emotions and actions.

Do I have an answer?  Nope.  :-) But, like CryingInThePool said, moods change. It's another challenge for us to think about how to get past this time and back to feeling like ourselves, but hopefully better.  Looking back, I was definitely not eating things I should be during the holidays, but I think that was kinda a blessing in disguise. I'm not saying this is for everyone, and I'm definitely not saying that I should go back to that eating all the time, but it was a good break. Maybe I'm finally shifting from 'Normal is to eat crappy and then take a break by eating good' vs 'Normal is to eat good and then take a break by eating crappy'??? I kinda feel like I'm rambling, and maybe don't make sense!  LOL

I think horsepoor had some great advice. Maybe you don't want to eat all-out bad like I did, but just eat simple for a while.

Hoping today has been better and tomorrow even better!

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« Reply #893 on: January 14, 2016, 01:21:34 PM »
Thank you for your ideas, suggestions and thoughts horsepoor, CryingInThePool and Mom22Boys.

It's been an interesting retrospection. I think what ti comes down to is without all the various highs and lows and associated emotions/chemical hits I'm feeling like I'm just existing.

Now I know it is not all diet related, we haven't had sun for a couple of weeks and I'm feeling the SAD, also we went grocery shopping and I think that triggered a lot of it. beyond the stupid high prices for produce right now, our store missed a shipment and there was basically no produce everything was gone except their processed crap. We picked through what was left and I was grumbling that we got 4 unripe bananas when we could have gotten a whole box of cereal for the same price of $2.00. Sometimes, I can understand why people who eat the Standard American Diet do it.

I hope you are having fun with your sous vide horsepoor :) I think your suggestion of having the building blocks ready to go and taking some of the creativity out of it is a good idea. I'll definitely do that for the weekend. Think a big batch of Kalua pork is in order.The weekdays are always tougher because I have to think about dinner in relation to hubby's lunches as well.

Filling the void - yes this is where I am at now. I'm also realizing the downside to working from home is I'm just not getting the social interaction and stimulation that I need - even as an introvert :)

CryingInThePool - Took your advice and started figuring out how I can get down to visit my grandma end of February. She's 95. Also started planning camp mustache, it does give us something to look forward to. Although even that is a little depressing with the state our CDN dollar is in right now!

Mom22Boys - Mid-life crisis is a great way to put it this too shall pass :) I did end up breaking the spirit of whole 30 by making some Keto "dinner buns" http://healinggourmet.com/healthy-recipes/keto-paleo-dinner-rolls/ and they actually did help, not so much for the taste but the act of mixing fours, making dough, and the smell that comes with baking. I think I miss that the most.

One odd thing I have noticed is what I crave more than the taste in a lot of cases is the smell.  Used the buns to sop up the lemon sauce from this paleo chicken: http://www.jaysbakingmecrazy.com/2016/01/06/paleo-lemon-butter-chicken/ didn't have any fresh lemon so used lime juice and some preserved lemon. Turned out really good.

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« Reply #894 on: January 18, 2016, 11:48:44 AM »
Alright kids.
I'm back.
And you know what?
I'm gonna actually do this thing for real. Well with a few stipulations because I still don't like to cook meat. ;) But more or less for real.
I toyed with it briefly, got off track, and then bounced on and off the healthy eating wagon for the last month. And you know what? I feel shitty.
And I don't want to feel shitty. So I'm going to do this thing. A whole 30 days. I don't know if it's going to stick beyond that, but I am, right here right now, committing to a 30 day experiment.

Do I get my super secret handshake and badge now? ;P

In all seriousness, this is a big deal for me. I have a binge-eating-bad-food problem (not like, clinically binge eating or anything, but I over-indulge when I have a "treat yo' self" mentality going on, and it's unhealthy, and I don't like feeling out of control) that needs to end ASAP, and I need to determine what food sensitivities I've got going on. I know I have a milk/lactose issue (since age 17, thanks genetics!) but I'm also 90% sure I have a soy sensitivity, which is either new or was mascaraing as something else...

Basically, I've got some learning to do...

That said, some of the language here makes me uncomfortable. I don't like the world "complaint." It makes me think of cults. This isn't some set of rules I'm imposing on myself that I should feel deeply guilty and shameful if I fail to follow. It is a set of guidelines that I'm following, by choice, to make myself feel better and to understand myself. :) So that will be taken out of my vocab and replaced with "X isn't what I'm eating right now."

Anyhow, hello again. :)
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« Reply #895 on: January 18, 2016, 12:17:53 PM »
Wow. After reading all the way through this thread, in preparation for a non-failed version of the Whole30, I'm ready to comment for support and words. I am currently on Day -4 (starting this Saturday). I tried to start it last week, and actually spent 4/5 weekdays eating completely compliantly, but my addiction to cigarettes coupled with my love of wine and cheese (not necessarily together, just two things I really like) made that a bust pretty quick. I decided that I will read through this thread (which has been awesome btw), and then tomorrow draft up a meal plan for the entire 30 days. This won't be as difficult as it sounds, as with the exception of my lunches, me and the other half only cook 3X/week.

So really, the reason I am here is for like minded folk to provide face punches and a place to process nutrition based writings. As of December 2013, my diet/lifestyle switched to primarily primal. Even with dairy, and occasional legumes, I wound up losing a ridiculous amount of weight. When I reintroduced craft beer (I'm in Colorado...come on now) and combined that with a year long struggle with alcohol, I ballooned. I still ate well, and determined that lifestyle pretty much cut out the major issues in my life, but I drank any benefits away and adjusted to that new and unhealthy lifestyle. So the Whole30 (for me), is primarily as it is designed...a reset. Cut out everything and move on to there. I'm a little bit more freaked out about the eventual re-intro, just in case I have to actually weigh something I love (which is all that I eat) against potential negative side-effects that I never tested for. I know what mostly works for me, but if something else works in addition, I'll have to do a cost-benefit-analysis. Obviously beer is stupid for me, so hopefully I'll continue to make steps in that direction. Oh, plus I'll have quit smoking. I'll wait to get started, but I'll be pretty damn happy to do it.
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« Reply #896 on: January 18, 2016, 12:44:34 PM »
Yo, high five Joradanreed. I think we're on the same course-correct path here...

Re: beer. I feel ya. I really fucking like beer. It's not even the alcohol content for me, I just actually *like* beer. Finding things that are interesting to drink but not objectively terrible for me is... a new quest. :/
Tea is the obvious answer, but what about those days when you want something fizzy? Is soda water acceptable? Soda water with a lemon or some ginger in it or something??

Something that stuck with me off the Whole30 website that I think will be important to remember is that what we eat? It's a choice. It should be a conscious one, not a passive one. :)
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« Reply #897 on: January 18, 2016, 01:31:06 PM »
I don't like the world "complaint." It makes me think of cults. This isn't some set of rules I'm imposing on myself that I should feel deeply guilty and shameful if I fail to follow. It is a set of guidelines that I'm following, by choice, to make myself feel better and to understand myself. :) So that will be taken out of my vocab and replaced with "X isn't what I'm eating right now."

Anyhow, hello again. :)

Welcome, Orvell and jordanread!

A not on the term "Compliant" yeah, I don't really like it either...but there are so many people on this thread at different places on the Whole30 and following different but similar courses and it was getting sort of confusing following who was doing what - so if we mention "complaint" that means that it fits within the parameters and is allowed on the "Whole 30" it is the term they use for what is acceptable during the time you are on the whole30.

I totally hear you on the beer, that was the sad part of finding out about my gluten/wheat issue. I freakin love the taste of beer. Christmas almost killed me when my family was breaking into bottles of my favorite seasonal Chestnut Ale.

 I might try it to see if it has the same effect as eating wheat, but I have to do it after this current round of Whole 30 and when I can afford to spend a couple of days in bed if it does.

Orvell - We have a soda stream and had fizzy water on occasion during our Whole 30 - Pop has never been an addition/problem food for us and it sure adds some variety!

Looking forward to hearing how you guys are doing. We are all here for you!


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« Reply #898 on: January 18, 2016, 01:36:11 PM »
I don't like the world "complaint." It makes me think of cults. This isn't some set of rules I'm imposing on myself that I should feel deeply guilty and shameful if I fail to follow. It is a set of guidelines that I'm following, by choice, to make myself feel better and to understand myself. :) So that will be taken out of my vocab and replaced with "X isn't what I'm eating right now."

Anyhow, hello again. :)

Welcome, Orvell and jordanread!

A not on the term "Compliant" yeah, I don't really like it either...but there are so many people on this thread at different places on the Whole30 and following different but similar courses and it was getting sort of confusing following who was doing what - so if we mention "complaint" that means that it fits within the parameters and is allowed on the "Whole 30" it is the term they use for what is acceptable during the time you are on the whole30.

I totally hear you on the beer, that was the sad part of finding out about my gluten/wheat issue. I freakin love the taste of beer. Christmas almost killed me when my family was breaking into bottles of my favorite seasonal Chestnut Ale.

 I might try it to see if it has the same effect as eating wheat, but I have to do it after this current round of Whole 30 and when I can afford to spend a couple of days in bed if it does.

Orvell - We have a soda stream and had fizzy water on occasion during our Whole 30 - Pop has never been an addition/problem food for us and it sure adds some variety!

Looking forward to hearing how you guys are doing. We are all here for you!

Thanks for the welcome Swick!!
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Re: Whole-30 Started as a challange, now an awesome group. Want to join us?
« Reply #899 on: January 18, 2016, 02:22:21 PM »
Thanks for the welcome (again, in my case), Swick!
Now a nitty gritty question:
Is there a difference between the carbonated water your Soda Stream makes, and the club soda/soda water I buy at the store?
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