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« Reply #1950 on: February 01, 2017, 11:02:02 AM »
WAY TO GO ON FINISHING WHOLE 30 MONKEYMIND!!!!

Sorry I missed you, hard to keep track of where everyone is!

Thanks sooooo much swick for all your support and your delicious recipes! I didn't have anyone here physically to do whole30 with me this month. You all were my major support! Thank you. :)

You are most welcome! Major props for not having an in-person support network and making it, that is hard to do! Also, I love this thread and everyone who contributes. I love the positivity and motivation, sharing and real-ness. THANK YOU!

Thank you!!!

I love all of my whole30 recipes, and I'm betting they're going to go into regular rotation in my house after we're done.  I'm wondering if we're going to be mostly whole30 just because it's easy to do now.  For example, my favorite recipe has been a chicken curry that I've made literally every Sunday this month to prep for lunches and even had to make it a few more times during the week because I was craving it.  I could eat it every day and I probably will still make it for lunches.

While I have found it frustrating at times and mourned the loss of being able to do all the traditional baking stuff I use to love, I have found so many good staple recipes and stretched myself in different ways because of the limitations. Being able to and willing to experiment is important in keeping up with whole food eating long term!


I'll see what the scale says tomorrow but, regardless of what it says, this month has been a major success. Without question, I just feel better eating in a conscious and healthy way.


This is AWESOME :D


Yesterday was the first work day evening in about 2 years that I stayed up until 10:30, just working on projects, playing with the dogs, and reading at home. I'd been going to bed between 6 and 9, usually 8, and sleeping 10-12 hours. Today I feel just as energetic and excited to get home to finish painting. I'm hoping this new found energy is here to stay. Maybe it's a result of kicking the sugar habit, getting past grief, and letting a few grains back into my diet.

Will keep you all posted.

This is great, Cookie, it sounds like you have had a great reset and a new lease on life. Hope the energy sticks with you and you get to enjoy those evenings!

Cookie, isn't it lovely to easily choose an option other than "eat all the cake!" Good for you.

BabyShark, NICE! 9.4 pounds is nothing to sneeze at. Good for you! I'm with you, I hate to have to count calories and record every little thing religiously. I lost just over ten pounds without weighing, measuring, or counting anything. Yay!

Two things of interest (to me anyway) today... First, last night for dinner, I had roasted sweet potatoes - Whole30 but not something I've been eating. I woke up in the middle of the night with a terrible headache. Gone now but it was awful for a bit. Coincidence? I don't know yet.  Second, I reintroduced coffee with cream this morning (starting with dairy).  I haven't had coffee for something like 25 days. Immediately afterwards, instead of feeling energized and awake from the caffeine, I was ready to take a nap. I'm feeling fine now but, for about two hours, I just wanted to curl up in my warm cozy bed.

I'm going to try a glass of milk later today too, but I'm much more excited about the Whole30 approved ham hocks and collard greens I'm making for dinner.

Interesting on both the sweet potato and coffee. If you haven't been having sweet potato (which is pretty high in sugar) that may have been enough to overload your system? It might be something you will have to experiment to get a clearer idea - although if you don't generally eat them, not really any point in including them in your diet simply because they are whole 30.

Let us know how the milk reintro goes!

Day 24 here, keeping things pretty simple. Hubby's work and sleep schedule is all out of wack which has been hard for both of us. I too have been cheating this time around with the scale. I'm still losing but it is super slow compared to the past, which is to be expected I've gone down from an Obese BMI to well within the normal range. Thinking I'm at the point where diet alone has done about as much as it is going to do so I have to start upping my exercise again. Which I haven't been doing because it is too damn cold :)

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« Reply #1951 on: February 01, 2017, 08:04:27 PM »
Well, made it through with minimum non-compliant foods (we allowed rice and beans on ours, but no alcohol, wheat, or sugar). Here's my weight graph from 2016 with the result of our January Whole 30.

Philociraptor, where do you track your weight?

And also did anybody have any issues with bruising more easily on Whole30?

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« Reply #1952 on: February 01, 2017, 08:13:55 PM »
Philociraptor, where do you track your weight?
We have a Withings scale that automatically syncs to the app.

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« Reply #1953 on: February 02, 2017, 06:38:33 AM »
https://anovaculinary.com/easy-homemade-sous-vide-egg-bites/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=paid+social&utm_campaign=conversions+us&fbaid=6065160547840

In case anyone has an immersion circulator.  Totally making these when I get home.

DC grocery prices are killing me, so I broke down and bought beans and rice the other day.  Doing well at keeping sugar, wheat and processed stuff out of the house though.

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« Reply #1954 on: February 02, 2017, 07:29:43 AM »
Philociraptor, where do you track your weight?
We have a Withings scale that automatically syncs to the app.

Ahh ok.  I really like the pink!

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« Reply #1955 on: February 02, 2017, 09:39:49 AM »
Congrats to everybody who finished!

Orvell - Your comments were so insightful, that's EXACTLY what I've been thinking/feeling about not having carbs and alcohol to lean on during Whole30.

swick - Oh man I never thought of using the salt and pepper wing technique on thighs...totally doing that next week.

Wins:
Yesterday was my Day 30, yay!
Today is post-W30 Day 1, and so far I've had a compliant breakfast and packed a compliant lunch. Planning to eat a bit of super fancy chocolate later though :) It's really a specific chocolate craving, I haven't struggled with sugar cravings since my first W30 I think.

We survived the long weekend in SoCal on the W30. It involved a lot of RxBars, Larabars, Chomps - not as many veggies, and definitely didn't fit the meal guide, but we completed our first Spartan Sprint! We ate at In-n-Out twice, but I was still a little sad to miss out on the amazing Asian food (we don't get quite the same selection in Ohio...) Even though LA is generally Paleo/Primal/Vegan/etc friendly, I still hit a low point the evening before our trip while I was researching restaurants. I looked at Mediterranean places, and called one to ask about ingredients -- turned out they cook ALL their meat in soybean oil. I truly hate being the picky person asking what's in everything, and requesting special modifications. Texas Roadhouse, where we did post-race lunch, was actually really easy - dry steak, dry sweet potato, dry steamed veggies - we brought our own ghee and added salt at the table. The In-n-Out staff was completely friendly and accommodating, but still took a couple tries to get our order right.

Challenges:
Over the last couple days I've been talking to fiance about how we want to handle diet/food going forward. He actually mentioned that he's been feeling really good (no GI issues during runs), and he's wary about adding things back in. For me this is the tough part, trying to find balance.

Fiance and I agreed to keep mostly eating this way for now. One issue is that his dearest wish is to have his favorite breakfast (bacon, eggs, potatoes) every day, but bacon has a pretty high $/protein ratio. Of course if I buy the bacon with sugar, and bulk potatoes/eggs it's cheaper (for some reason my potatoes always sprout really quickly though)... a significant contributor to the January grocery spend bump is fiance eating all meals from home instead of at his work cafeteria. He doesn't understand my frustration and anxiety as the person who does all the shopping/cooking, because I feel like IT'S ALL UP TO ME (health and $).

Superbowl Sunday also coming up, I'm planning to bring meatballs and maybe a veg tray - I'll eat non-compliant things as well, but don't want to go whole-hog. Tomorrow (Friday) I have two alcohol-involved events, but need to pace myself because my tolerance goes super-low after a month of skipping it.

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« Reply #1956 on: February 02, 2017, 06:38:43 PM »
Congratulations rawr237!  Good luck navigating the reintroduction phase.  As you said, balance is key.  You can do it!

Day 30+2.

I tested milk yesterday - half&half in my coffee and two cups of milk through the day.  I would say I felt only a very slight difference in digestion.  I don't feel sick or unwell, no gas or bloating or anything, just not as "clean" as I've been feeling, if that makes any sense.  I'm now back to the plan for two days.

Next was going to be yogurt - it's straining now after I made it overnight - but a new and very rare opportunity came up that I'm going to take advantage of instead.  I'll be going out of town over the weekend and we've got plans to go to a favorite German restaurant.  I'll be using that as my next "test".  I'm fully prepared to feel like hell after that, but I'm still looking forward to the treat.  I will then go right back on the plan until I have "normalized" and then will start reintroducing food types again after that - starting with fermented dairy.

Two silly things I've noticed over the past month...

First, I have a fingernail that has been split for literally years.  I have tried a million things to fix it over this time: seal it, cover it, clip it, protect it, strengthen it,  EVERYTHING! but, over and over, it would continue to re-tear and cause me problems.  One month of Whole30 CURED it - the split is gone - the nail is whole!  That's silly, but it's huge.  I have hated that stupid nail.  I'm so tickled at that totally unexpected improvement.

Second, I have had the hiccups more in the past month than I've had in the past 3 years.  I've probably had hiccups at least 30 times in 30 days, sometimes several times a day.  They come on randomly, with no association to food or drink, and they last anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes. Though annoying, it's a small price to pay for health improvement.  It's so weird.

Challenge: I'm trying not to feel too smug.  My WeightWatcher friend was complaining that, yesterday, she spent a third of her daily points on 4 Nutter Butter cookies.  She did this as she looked up the points for the "healthier" gummy fruit snacks she bought as today's treat.  She was astounded that the gummies COST 5 POINTS!!!  FOR WHAT!!!  I tried to offer a sweet, juicy, zero point tangerine instead but she declined.  Man, was that tangerine good!

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« Reply #1957 on: February 02, 2017, 09:27:03 PM »
WAY TO CRUSH YOUR WHOLE 30 RAWR237!!!


Wins:
Yesterday was my Day 30, yay!
Today is post-W30 Day 1, and so far I've had a compliant breakfast and packed a compliant lunch. Planning to eat a bit of super fancy chocolate later though :) It's really a specific chocolate craving, I haven't struggled with sugar cravings since my first W30 I think.

We survived the long weekend in SoCal on the W30. It involved a lot of RxBars, Larabars, Chomps - not as many veggies, and definitely didn't fit the meal guide, but we completed our first Spartan Sprint! We ate at In-n-Out twice, but I was still a little sad to miss out on the amazing Asian food (we don't get quite the same selection in Ohio...) Even though LA is generally Paleo/Primal/Vegan/etc friendly, I still hit a low point the evening before our trip while I was researching restaurants. I looked at Mediterranean places, and called one to ask about ingredients -- turned out they cook ALL their meat in soybean oil. I truly hate being the picky person asking what's in everything, and requesting special modifications. Texas Roadhouse, where we did post-race lunch, was actually really easy - dry steak, dry sweet potato, dry steamed veggies - we brought our own ghee and added salt at the table. The In-n-Out staff was completely friendly and accommodating, but still took a couple tries to get our order right.

Challenges:
Over the last couple days I've been talking to fiance about how we want to handle diet/food going forward. He actually mentioned that he's been feeling really good (no GI issues during runs), and he's wary about adding things back in. For me this is the tough part, trying to find balance.

Fiance and I agreed to keep mostly eating this way for now. One issue is that his dearest wish is to have his favorite breakfast (bacon, eggs, potatoes) every day, but bacon has a pretty high $/protein ratio. Of course if I buy the bacon with sugar, and bulk potatoes/eggs it's cheaper (for some reason my potatoes always sprout really quickly though)... a significant contributor to the January grocery spend bump is fiance eating all meals from home instead of at his work cafeteria. He doesn't understand my frustration and anxiety as the person who does all the shopping/cooking, because I feel like IT'S ALL UP TO ME (health and $).

Superbowl Sunday also coming up, I'm planning to bring meatballs and maybe a veg tray - I'll eat non-compliant things as well, but don't want to go whole-hog. Tomorrow (Friday) I have two alcohol-involved events, but need to pace myself because my tolerance goes super-low after a month of skipping it.

BADASS WIN!!!! And I totally hear you about the frustration and anxiety about balancing meal prep/time/$ when you are the one doing it all. What has really helped is having a couple of meals in the freezer for those days it just all gets too much.


Two silly things I've noticed over the past month...

First, I have a fingernail that has been split for literally years.  I have tried a million things to fix it over this time: seal it, cover it, clip it, protect it, strengthen it,  EVERYTHING! but, over and over, it would continue to re-tear and cause me problems.  One month of Whole30 CURED it - the split is gone - the nail is whole!  That's silly, but it's huge.  I have hated that stupid nail.  I'm so tickled at that totally unexpected improvement.

Second, I have had the hiccups more in the past month than I've had in the past 3 years.  I've probably had hiccups at least 30 times in 30 days, sometimes several times a day.  They come on randomly, with no association to food or drink, and they last anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes. Though annoying, it's a small price to pay for health improvement.  It's so weird.

Challenge: I'm trying not to feel too smug.  My WeightWatcher friend was complaining that, yesterday, she spent a third of her daily points on 4 Nutter Butter cookies.  She did this as she looked up the points for the "healthier" gummy fruit snacks she bought as today's treat.  She was astounded that the gummies COST 5 POINTS!!!  FOR WHAT!!!  I tried to offer a sweet, juicy, zero point tangerine instead but she declined.  Man, was that tangerine good!

The nail thing is odd but awesome! The hiccups have me totally stumped.

I too struggle with my WW friends, I keep thinking they are fundamentally missing the point - and becoming dependent on learning points instead of how to eat real, healthy food encourages yoyo-ing. I find it frustrating to hear "well if I skip breakfast and lunch, I can have pizza for dinner!" It allows you to develop unhealthy and unsustainable habits.

I love the no tracking, no calorie counting aspect of whole 30, it gives you time and energy to really focus on what you eat and why you eat it and I think that creates thinking and habit shifts.
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« Reply #1958 on: February 02, 2017, 09:50:43 PM »
Day 26...

Whatever nastiness was going on last week has left me.  I'm currently avoiding a few suspect foods... artichokes, peppers, acorn squash, and a few others.  I went from feeling amazing and a ridiculously good mood to miserable.  GI issues, fibro issues, general feeling of blah.  I also had a cold though.  These things could have been related.

I'm planning on extending a couple more weeks, much to the disappointment of the lunch-goers at work.  I still haven't gotten back to feeling amazing, and that's what I want my baseline to be when I start re-intro.

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« Reply #1959 on: February 03, 2017, 02:15:07 AM »
Just curious...

Has anyone on this thread gone the no-egg no-nightshade route?
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« Reply #1960 on: February 03, 2017, 06:29:51 AM »
So, I still snack all day, every day, though on different things. While I'm at work. However, the biggest shift for me has been that when I get home, I have dinner. And that's it. I can go to bed and go to sleep and not have to get out of bed to go eat. I used to have a bowl of cereal ~1 hour after dinner. And then more snacks/food later! Last night, my wife made some chicken, corn and butternut squash. It wasn't a big meal (well I did eat an entire HALF of one squash...)

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I'm also really far along on my financial software web application rewrite - it's software I started in 2003 in ancient code (classic ASP aka VBScript + T-SQL), that I've tweaked over the years. It's still very fiddly - i.e. I have to change source code sometimes because I added some new data that needs to behave differently. I have to add four "weekly" reminders (placeholders) to approximate the behavior of my "monthly" reminders in the forecasting. Anyway, on Saturday, I wrote the authentication portion. Lots of code (encryption, user and sign-in management) I didn't need to and ended up deleting, but it was good for learning. Now we're up to Thursday evening, and I've got instant AJAX forecasting working... *drool* Cannot wait until it's ready to import the data from the old software. Still have a lot of interface work, and a lot of reporting to write - at least what it does now, and then I have some new functionality I plan on adding!

The point of the above is... working on web apps at home is something I used to do a lot, but haven't done much at all in many years. Over the past few years, I've worked on ~3-4 freelance projects. I've dabbled with some of my own projects, but generally got tied up in that "day one, login" crap and then gave up. So... this is a big difference! I've made huge progress on a project in six days.

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« Reply #1961 on: February 03, 2017, 10:24:18 AM »
Just curious...

Has anyone on this thread gone the no-egg no-nightshade route?
Yup.  My GF and I did a full run of AIP paleo with a very gradual reintroduction.  Eggs and nightshades in particular weren't issues for us.  Just mainly milk for her, and almonds and wheat for me.

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« Reply #1962 on: February 03, 2017, 06:45:52 PM »
And another just curious question:

I'm sick right now. Hopefully I'll avoid that once I start, but I work in a school, so... germs. Anyway, the only foods I can keep down right now are far from compliant. Outside of broth, which I haven't tried today but assume I could handle, what are your go-to sick foods?
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« Reply #1963 on: February 03, 2017, 07:00:45 PM »
And another just curious question:

I'm sick right now. Hopefully I'll avoid that once I start, but I work in a school, so... germs. Anyway, the only foods I can keep down right now are far from compliant. Outside of broth, which I haven't tried today but assume I could handle, what are your go-to sick foods?

Fell better! Egg drop soup is good, or plain scrambled eggs, cooked squash or sweet potatoes, and heck, if you are having trouble with food because you are sick, smoothies are definitely an option. Getting good nutritious food in you so you can fight off the germs is more important than following the strict letter of the whole 30 law.

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« Reply #1964 on: February 03, 2017, 07:03:35 PM »
Thanks. :)
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« Reply #1965 on: February 04, 2017, 10:58:47 AM »
Happy Saturday, Everyone!

How is everyone doing? What are your wins and challenges?

WIN:  I did a test batch of this oatmeal substitute this morning, sauteed some apples and raisins in the pot first, YUM!

Ya'll know how much of a struggle breakfasts can be. I love the fact that you can make a mix of the dry ingredients ahead of time! I used ground flax instead of whole seeds, and recommend it. Also awesome for eating up our pantry challenge :)

http://www.paleostateofmindblog.com/blog/grain-free-oatmeal

'nother win: I tried on some shorts I bought on steep end of clearance last year, hoping for a bit longer warm weather in which to wear them. That didn't happen. I bought two sizes one just about fit and one was too small by a fair amount. I slipped into the smaller ones easily today :) Now if only there weren't so much blowing snow or I had somewhere warm to wear them! Ahh well :)

Challenge: It is snowing heavily and we have no desire to go to the store, soo...going to continue with the eat up the pantry challenge. I said because it is Saturday and we have time at home, we could have breakfast for breakfast, lunch, and dinner :D
The real challenge will be figuring out veggies. We do have a cauliflower and a Squash I need to use up.

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« Reply #1966 on: February 05, 2017, 03:39:01 PM »
I've done a bad job of updating the Whole 30 thread, but on the bright side I did a great job completing the actual Whole 30! Wrapped up on Jan. 30th and have reintroduced dairy (whole milk, cheese) this week with no complications. I didn't have a tough time with it other than some headaches around day 3-4 and I think I felt a little guilty about coming around just to say "Everything is awesome!"

Over the month I slowly realized there wasn't much from my diet that really got cut other than dairy, white rice, oats, and beer. The major thing was all the convenience foods I learned it's okay to say no to, even when it's free -- office lunches, doughnuts, birthday cakes, etc. Normally I'm all about free food and taking extras home so I had to re-train myself (and my office informant network) over the last month. My wallet took more of a hit in January, but it's worth it for my health.

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« Reply #1967 on: February 05, 2017, 03:46:45 PM »
Day5
I'm doing a whole 30 to see if it helps my alopecia since nothing else has really helped.  I may do the AIP whole 30 after the first 30 days if i don't see any improvement; but man, i thought the normal whole 30 was strict?! AIP blows it out of the water!

Just curious...

Has anyone on this thread gone the no-egg no-nightshade route?
Yup.  My GF and I did a full run of AIP paleo with a very gradual reintroduction.  Eggs and nightshades in particular weren't issues for us.  Just mainly milk for her, and almonds and wheat for me.
What did you eat on the AIP?  I look at the suggested diets and they seem a little ridiculous!

Does anyone else feel ridiculously tired when they are starting?  I've been sleeping at least 9hrs at night since day 1 and all I want to do today is take a nap...  I haven't worked out in three days!


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« Reply #1968 on: February 05, 2017, 04:14:49 PM »
Does anyone else feel ridiculously tired when they are starting?  I've been sleeping at least 9hrs at night since day 1 and all I want to do today is take a nap...  I haven't worked out in three days!

I bookmarked this link from somewhere back in the thread, I don't want to comb through 40 pages to figure out who posted it (but thanks!). It sounds like you're right on track based on the timeline:

http://whole30.com/2013/08/revised-timeline/

In my first round of Whole 30 I was lifting and running regularly 4-5x per week and found I had to up my carb intake to beat the fatigue. If you exercise regularly and the fatigue doesn't pass you may want to examine that.

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« Reply #1969 on: February 05, 2017, 06:23:49 PM »
One of the things I'm hoping will get better is my fatigue. Should be fun!

I'm still eating down the non-compliant stuff. I should be thoroughly sick of pasta by March 1st.
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« Reply #1970 on: February 05, 2017, 10:03:26 PM »
What did you eat on the AIP?  I look at the suggested diets and they seem a little ridiculous!
I don't know what sort of "suggested diets" you're looking at, but AIP isn't too difficult.  The main issue with it is that you absolutely definitely need to make 100% of everything from scratch with zero chance for fuckup.  It gives you slightly more leeway than Whole30 in the sugar department as it does allow very small amounts (<1tsp/day of honey/maple syrup/etc).  Eggs and black pepper are by far the most limiting eliminations.  There are a bunch of AIP recipes out there, and barring that, plenty of paleo-type recipes that are AIP compliant or very close to it with minor modifications.  Also, no butter so make sure you have a good source of tallow and/or lard.

Some things we ate on AIP:
http://enjoyingthisjourney.com/aip-beef-tacos/ (this is pretty much the best thing I've ever eaten)
http://autoimmunewellness.com/hawaiian-salmon/
http://www.primalpalate.com/paleo-recipe/autoimmune-paleo-orange-teriyaki-meatballs/
http://www.grazedandenthused.com/single-post/2016/03/21/Instant-Pot-Maple-Tamarind-Ribs-PaleoAIP
http://www.grazedandenthused.com/single-post/2016/09/26/20-minute-Turkey-Gravy-PaleoAIPWhole30
http://cleaneatingveggiegirl.com/2016/01/12/aip-paleo-avocado-turmeric-chicken-salad/
http://autoimmunewellness.com/oven-roasted-rainbow-carrots-with-orange-glaze/
http://enjoyingthisjourney.com/aip-greek-salad/
http://www.grazedandenthused.com/single-post/2014/08/04/PeachGlazed-Mini-Meatloaves-AIP-Friendly
http://eatbeautiful.net/2015/11/08/lemon-ginger-salmon-paleo-gaps-aip/
http://autoimmunewellness.com/bistro-chicken-salad-garlic-thyme-vinaigrette/

Plus simple stuff like baked bone-in skin-on chicken thighs (lemon, salt, and garlic), lazy steam-in-the-bag vegetables, fruit snacks (as in fruit-as-a-snack, not actual fruit snacks), meatloaf (no breadcrumbs or eggs), simple salads with just romaine, chicken breast, and basic homemade dressing, baked sweet potato fries, coconut milk smoothies, etc.

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« Reply #1971 on: February 07, 2017, 06:39:18 PM »
Checking in. I'm 1 week post.  I've reintroduced milk (I may or may not be sensitive, the jury's still out) and, this weekend, I thoroughly enjoyed a non-compliant German dinner of schnitzel and spaetzle. No immediate side effects but I was a little tired and I had a 2 day long headache.  I'm just not sure if that was due to the food or circumstances.  Totally worth it!  What I didn't do is drink beer or eat a cream puff the size of my head. 

I'm feeling so much better sticking with whole foods that I'm actually finding it a little hard to be willing to try other things.  It's just easier not to.  This is not the problem I was expecting to have.

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« Reply #1972 on: February 07, 2017, 08:04:23 PM »
I'm feeling so much better sticking with whole foods that I'm actually finding it a little hard to be willing to try other things.  It's just easier not to.  This is not the problem I was expecting to have.

That can happen :) Eating whole, good foods can definitely make you not want to go back, which is a good thing, but still a good idea to continue with the reintro :)

Yesterday was "fail" day - we met up with family for bowling, and I didn't bring snacks. Ended up eating a bag of pretzels (wheat!) from a vending machine. We went to Applebee's, and I ordered salmon, broccoli and fries "with no dairy." The broccoli was delicious... I can't help but think they put butter on them (and I must have denied it while eating them...) I also realized this morning that the beef jerky I've been happily chowing on is made with soy sauce (wheat!) so I'm going to have to find some new things to eat.

Just got to get back on the horse, Neo! How are you doing today?

Today is day 30 for us, we celebrated with steak, roasted cauliflower and roasted squash, sooo good!

We don't really have any plans to do a reintro (yeah I know, despite I keep telling everyone to!) But we already have the data. I imagine tomorrow will be very much like today. Am looking forward to having some popcorn on the weekend though :)

How is everyone doing? What are your successes and challenges?

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« Reply #1973 on: February 08, 2017, 06:25:05 AM »
What did you eat on the AIP?  I look at the suggested diets and they seem a little ridiculous!
I don't know what sort of "suggested diets" you're looking at, but AIP isn't too difficult.  The main issue with it is that you absolutely definitely need to make 100% of everything from scratch with zero chance for fuckup.  It gives you slightly more leeway than Whole30 in the sugar department as it does allow very small amounts (<1tsp/day of honey/maple syrup/etc).  Eggs and black pepper are by far the most limiting eliminations.  There are a bunch of AIP recipes out there, and barring that, plenty of paleo-type recipes that are AIP compliant or very close to it with minor modifications.  Also, no butter so make sure you have a good source of tallow and/or lard.


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http://enjoyingthisjourney.com/aip-beef-tacos/ (this is pretty much the best thing I've ever eaten)
http://autoimmunewellness.com/hawaiian-salmon/
http://www.primalpalate.com/paleo-recipe/autoimmune-paleo-orange-teriyaki-meatballs/
http://www.grazedandenthused.com/single-post/2016/03/21/Instant-Pot-Maple-Tamarind-Ribs-PaleoAIP
http://www.grazedandenthused.com/single-post/2016/09/26/20-minute-Turkey-Gravy-PaleoAIPWhole30
http://cleaneatingveggiegirl.com/2016/01/12/aip-paleo-avocado-turmeric-chicken-salad/
http://autoimmunewellness.com/oven-roasted-rainbow-carrots-with-orange-glaze/
http://enjoyingthisjourney.com/aip-greek-salad/
http://www.grazedandenthused.com/single-post/2014/08/04/PeachGlazed-Mini-Meatloaves-AIP-Friendly
http://eatbeautiful.net/2015/11/08/lemon-ginger-salmon-paleo-gaps-aip/
http://autoimmunewellness.com/bistro-chicken-salad-garlic-thyme-vinaigrette/

Plus simple stuff like baked bone-in skin-on chicken thighs (lemon, salt, and garlic), lazy steam-in-the-bag vegetables, fruit snacks (as in fruit-as-a-snack, not actual fruit snacks), meatloaf (no breadcrumbs or eggs), simple salads with just romaine, chicken breast, and basic homemade dressing, baked sweet potato fries, coconut milk smoothies, etc.


Thank you so much!
I borrowed "Practical Paleo" from a friend.  In the book, they discuss AIP and have suggested meal plans. I think I was having a temper tantrum with myself. "I don't want to up eggs and spicy foods when I've already have no sugar, wine, bread...".
This first week on the whole 30 really hasn't been bad at all which makes the AIP seem much more realistic for me.

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« Reply #1974 on: February 08, 2017, 02:00:42 PM »
Ahhhh dairy. I missed it and I'm seeing no negative affects so far back on it. Beans were another story, but don't we all get a little GI action with those?

I've reintroduced almost everything at this point, albeit a bit faster than I was hoping. A weekend vacation expedited me into grains territory and dairy at the same time. But now I've stopped grains again and kept dairy up which gives me some data. The single biggest surprise was when I shared a chocolate sundae with my family. About 40 minutes later I was pissy for no good reason and it led to a small fight with my husband. It's not really a treat if it makes you feel bad is it?

I'm giving keto a try now to see where that takes me since I have found that I enjoy high fat foods and I feel more full.

I experienced a small skin break out after my weekend of overindulgence which makes me want to blame it on either grains or my blood sugar bouncing around. I think another month would help me pin this down.

But for now, while I have no vacations or temptations coming up, I'm cutting carbs and going high fat. Whole30 really was an amazing reset.

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« Reply #1975 on: February 09, 2017, 07:34:16 AM »
Here's my menu for the first two weeks:

Week 1:
Breakfasts:
Steak
Squash soup
Snacks:
Nuts
Fruit
Lunches:
Avocado tuna salad
Chicken avocado salad (greens, jicama, carrots, olives, apples, etc.)
Dinners:
Chicken tangine with stir-fried greens
Oven-baked cod with spring vegetables

Week 2:
Breakfasts:
Stir-fry
Turnip and sweet potato hash
Snacks:
Fruits, veggies, and almond butter
Lunch:
Avocado tuna salad
Salad with chicken and/or salmon
Dinner:
Lemon salmon, salad side
Pot roast -- haven't decided on side. Possibly mashed turnips.

I generally have a variety of two things for each meal/week so I don't have to eat the same thing two days in a row but I also don't have to buy a ton of different ingredients.

If I need a dessert, I can have a fruit smoothie or a frozen banana or something similar.
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« Reply #1976 on: February 09, 2017, 08:41:03 AM »

I'm giving keto a try now to see where that takes me since I have found that I enjoy high fat foods and I feel more full.

You are quite lucky to not have any adverse reactions to dairy, if I could handle it, I'd have gone full keto a long time ago. I think someone was doing Keto without dairy, but I would find it way too restrictive.

Mezzie - Looks like a good plan! I will say though:


If I need a dessert, I can have a fruit smoothie or a frozen banana or something similar.


Part of the idea is to break cravings and habits, and (Whole 30 police here) they don't want you "drinking" your food.  Just figure I should mention it because lots of bloggers and people who do whole 30 tend to include smoothies, that's got to be a choice you are going to make or not.

Dinner last night was pretty simple, sausages with roasted cauliflower, squash and cabbage. Definitely starting to be a challenge with finding edible looking greens in the store right now, I'm over winter. This morning I got up and took my damn Vitamin D (I swear if I was on a medication I'd have to take every day or I'd die, I'd last a week!)

Oh on that note - take a look at any vitamins and supplements to make sure they are compliant!

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« Reply #1977 on: February 09, 2017, 10:24:25 AM »

If I need a dessert, I can have a fruit smoothie or a frozen banana or something similar.


Your menu looks amazing! I too made smoothies the first 3 weeks as a dessert substitute. It took me that long to truly kick the craving for something after dinner. What got me over the hump was eating dinner leftovers when I felt that craving. It was a little weird feeling at first to essentially have a second, smaller dinner, but it worked for me. Now I don't crave a dessert, I crave dinner leftovers or a spoonful of cashew butter.

In a non-mustachian moment I ordered lard, tallow and duck fat online yesterday so I can experiment with different healthy fats in my cooking. It's pricey, but everything is pasture raised from this supplier: http://fatworksfoods.com/

In other news, I busted my ACL on the ski slopes over the weekend. Yet one more reason to gain control over inflammation and work on building strength in my legs and glutes. Sigh. Getting old is tough on soft tissue.

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« Reply #1978 on: February 09, 2017, 10:37:00 AM »

In other news, I busted my ACL on the ski slopes over the weekend. Yet one more reason to gain control over inflammation and work on building strength in my legs and glutes. Sigh. Getting old is tough on soft tissue.

aww bummer :( Hope you are not out for too long!

Duck fat is all sorts of amazing! Occasionally frozen ducks go on sale here, and I always stock up because the amount of just fat I can get off one bird works out to about 1/4 of the cost of buying just the fat - and all the meat and stock I get from it is an extra bonus :)

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« Reply #1979 on: February 09, 2017, 02:16:46 PM »
I only have dessert cravings during PMS, and not every month, but they're rather intense when I do get them. I figure it's best to be prepared with something satisfying that fits. I did read the no-dessert thing in the book (and what seemed to be a rather vitriolic rant against banana pancakes :p), but if I'm doing this to find out if I can live with less pain, I see no reason to torture myself the one or two days during this experiment that I may actually feel unsatisfied.

I wouldn't be able to have much of a smoothie anyway as I am sensitive to coconut milk and hate almond milk. We're talking 4-6oz tops.
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« Reply #1980 on: February 09, 2017, 02:42:14 PM »
It'll be interesting to see how this eating style affects cravings and hormonal goings on for you.

It's hard to get that data after only a month, but I know for certain even small amounts of sugar have a HUGE impact on mine. I use to be the lose three full days a month curled up in a ball type of pain, huge (suicidal) mood swings. Not sure if it is the lack of sugar for those things or just getting more nutrients in general, but these days I get barely any pain or mood dips - but if I have an increase in sugar and they all come back.

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« Reply #1981 on: February 11, 2017, 08:30:05 AM »
So today is day 11. The last several days I've been feeling great; exhaustion is gone, back to working out regularly.  My skin for once looks amazing.  Ppl that don't know I am on the whole 30 have been complimenting my skin.  I have been feeling soooo great that I made the mistake of stepping on the scale today.... I HAVE GAINED 2 LBS!!!
What am I doing wrong??

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« Reply #1982 on: February 11, 2017, 09:11:38 AM »
I doubt you're doing anything wrong. You mentioned getting back into working out regularly. If I take even a week off, I can gain up to 2-4 pounds just in water retention when I start working out again. (I enjoy it because it looks like my muscles got bigger even though it's 100% water retention.) I also fluctuate +/-2 pounds over the course of a month and about 6 pounds over the course of a day depending on what I have for dinner. Two pounds at a random check doesn't really tell you anything.

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« Reply #1983 on: February 12, 2017, 07:31:31 PM »
I'm almost two weeks into reintroduction and I've definitively determined that I am sensitive to milk.  I seem to do OK with cheese but plain old fresh milk does not agree with me.  I'm going to try yogurt tomorrow.  We'll see how that goes.

I made garlicky sauteed beet greens with roasted beets and balsamic vinegar (and I added some goat cheese since I'm reintroducing cheeses).  Delicious!  That was dinner.  At the end of this week I'll be throwing caution to the wind and testing out wheat and gluten with homemade pizza for a special occasion meal, but I'll be right back on the horse after that.

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« Reply #1984 on: February 13, 2017, 08:48:03 AM »
Day 19. Bathroom woes continue. This was actually one of the worst nights (gas, bloating, etc). Worried that EGGS are my problem, as they've been a constant (every day breakfast) throughout, and yesterday I had 2 hard-boiled eggs at lunch. I thought maybe coconut oil, but I actually had very little yesterday.

I just responded in your other thread that it might be the coconut oil...why don't you try a couple of days without eggs?

This is a good breakfast I have been making: http://www.paleostateofmindblog.com/blog/grain-free-oatmeal I've been doing ti with sauteed apples and raisins. Super yum.

I'm almost two weeks into reintroduction and I've definitively determined that I am sensitive to milk.  I seem to do OK with cheese but plain old fresh milk does not agree with me.  I'm going to try yogurt tomorrow.  We'll see how that goes.

I made garlicky sauteed beet greens with roasted beets and balsamic vinegar (and I added some goat cheese since I'm reintroducing cheeses).  Delicious!  That was dinner.  At the end of this week I'll be throwing caution to the wind and testing out wheat and gluten with homemade pizza for a special occasion meal, but I'll be right back on the horse after that.

Crappy about the milk, it seems to be a bad one for so many :( But if you can tolerate cheese well,t hat would be AWESOME, your beets sound delish!

I doubt you're doing anything wrong. You mentioned getting back into working out regularly. If I take even a week off, I can gain up to 2-4 pounds just in water retention when I start working out again. (I enjoy it because it looks like my muscles got bigger even though it's 100% water retention.) I also fluctuate +/-2 pounds over the course of a month and about 6 pounds over the course of a day depending on what I have for dinner. Two pounds at a random check doesn't really tell you anything.

Focus on the fact that you're feeling great. :)

+1 to all of this :) One of the reasons you are not supposed to weigh yourself during whole 30. Weight can fluctuate wildly, especially if you are detoxing. Much better to go with non-scale measurements to keep on track.

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« Reply #1985 on: February 13, 2017, 09:33:49 AM »
I'm almost done with all the GF pasta, nearly done with the butter and soy milk, and I just put some beans in the crockpot. This grocery trip I'm only buying compliant items with the exception of eggs (one month without them will be long enough). I'm going out to breakfast with my husband on a rare morning we're both off (thank you, Lincoln); I've decided not to hold back when he wants to eat out this month since there will be two months of saying no.

I've frozen some emergency compliant foods for quick emergency meals: chicken, broth, etc. I'll continue doing that so I'm not stuck.

I think my GF flours should keep for the reintroduction phase, so I'm not eating those down. I'm just going to put them way in the back of the pantry.

Just over half a month to go. I want to make my Week 3 & 4 menus and shopping lists for each week before the start day.

It's warming up, so I'll mostly want to eat fruits and veggies anyway.
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« Reply #1986 on: February 13, 2017, 07:52:29 PM »
Dropping in. DH and I, but not the kids, are going to take a stab at this starting Feb 14. We have one more day of non-compliant lunches that we want to eat up first. We've never done this before but we have dialed back sugar and caffeine consumption recently.

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« Reply #1987 on: February 13, 2017, 08:07:20 PM »
Dropping in. DH and I, but not the kids, are going to take a stab at this starting Feb 14. We have one more day of non-compliant lunches that we want to eat up first. We've never done this before but we have dialed back sugar and caffeine consumption recently.

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« Reply #1988 on: February 14, 2017, 05:15:57 AM »
Landlady, I'm wishing you a speedy recovery.

Mezzie, I'm so impressed with your preparation and organization. I was nowhere near as ready as you'll be.

Neo, I hope you quickly find the offender and get back to normal. Kudos for sticking with it even through these challenges.

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« Reply #1989 on: February 14, 2017, 07:38:51 AM »
Dropping in. DH and I, but not the kids, are going to take a stab at this starting Feb 14. We have one more day of non-compliant lunches that we want to eat up first. We've never done this before but we have dialed back sugar and caffeine consumption recently.

Welcome, Mongoose! Let us know if there is anything we can do to support you!

I meant Feb 15. This feels like a looming cliff. Chocolate and I have a very dysfunctional relationship. I don't even like the taste...ugh. Tomorrow...

We're still pretty budget restricted so I foresee lots of less expensive vegetables, omelets, and homemade soups. That is my biggest concern...grocery spending can't rise. Oh, and I can't do coconut oil as I have a weird reaction to it.

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« Reply #1990 on: February 14, 2017, 10:37:30 AM »

I meant Feb 15. This feels like a looming cliff. Chocolate and I have a very dysfunctional relationship. I don't even like the taste...ugh. Tomorrow...

We're still pretty budget restricted so I foresee lots of less expensive vegetables, omelets, and homemade soups. That is my biggest concern...grocery spending can't rise. Oh, and I can't do coconut oil as I have a weird reaction to it.

This had me concerned when I read it in the UFF thread. Overall, if you eat this style longer term, the prices even themselves out as you learn what you do and don't like, where you can source ingredients and such, and the money saved because you tend to eat out less, also, I have spent WAYWAYWAY less on medical stuff, and I'm in Canada. Unfortunately, those savings aren't immediate, even if they are lasting.

But if you are on a really tight budget, it can get tricky.  Larger sizes of meat are your friend, doing a whole chicken at a time, a big pork roast Nomnom Paleo's Kahlua pork is a favorite, and I never bother using the bacon.

I don't know where you live, but checking out liquidation stores for veggies can net some good deals. Tami gets all her organic fruits and veggies for pennies at a liquidation place because they may be imperfect or only good for a day or two longer. We don't have anything like that around here and I get so jealous seeing her hauls :)

We tend to bulk up a lot with sweet potatoes as they are filling and fairly cheap. Eating "in season" still helps a lot. Also being adaptable with the recipes you are making. 

Everyone! Time to share your tips! How do you keep eating costs down while doing whole 30??

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« Reply #1991 on: February 14, 2017, 10:48:03 AM »
Ah yes. The ugly food section. I have that in every grocery store, and it's only bit me in the ass once. I always try new things, and the Asian Market in my area had bittermelon in the ugly food section. Um, it turns out those things are disgusting...and surprisingly bitter. :)

And using squash type thing as a base is a great way of making food go longer. We use baked Mexican Squash (and plantains sometimes too) put through a food processor to thicken up curries. It makes it go a lot farther, and then you don't need stuff like rice to bulk it up.

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« Reply #1992 on: February 14, 2017, 11:07:16 AM »
Everyone! Time to share your tips! How do you keep eating costs down while doing whole 30??
Cheap meats, cheap produce, cheap cooking fats, cheap spices.  Minimize anything else.  Minimize or don't buy any specialized fancy stuff (almond flour, cashew butter, etc.)

Cheap meats come from picking out what tends to be cheaper (bone-in chicken thighs, ground pork, beef liver, etc.), and adapting with/stocking up during sales.  For chicken, go skin-on, bone-in.  It tastes better, and you get a lot more calories for your dollar.

Cheap produce comes from the same mindset, but also shopping in-season and remaining adaptable.  Make cheaper vegetables more often.  Eat lots of cabbage, onions, and carrots.  Only buy berries and the like when they are cheap (that usually means they're more fresh, too).  Buy the greens in heads or bunches and cut it up yourself (those pre-cut/pre-washed salad mixes are usually rather silly when you run the numbers).  Be more selective about fruit in general; fruit is expensive.  Blackberries might be on sale for $0.99 with the raspberries right next to them for $4.99 (witnessed this yesterday).

Cheap cooking fats come from buying in bulk and sourcing correctly.  If you can find a source of local beef suet or pork back fat, you can render your own tallow or lard really easily and super cheap (like 20% the cost of buying it).  Olive oil and coconut oil are stupid cheap at Costco.

Cheap spices come mostly from buying in bulk.  Figure out what you use the most of and find those in bulk.

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« Reply #1993 on: February 14, 2017, 12:30:50 PM »
I doubt you're doing anything wrong. You mentioned getting back into working out regularly. If I take even a week off, I can gain up to 2-4 pounds just in water retention when I start working out again. (I enjoy it because it looks like my muscles got bigger even though it's 100% water retention.) I also fluctuate +/-2 pounds over the course of a month and about 6 pounds over the course of a day depending on what I have for dinner. Two pounds at a random check doesn't really tell you anything.

Focus on the fact that you're feeling great. :)

Thanks! Makes me feel better:)
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« Reply #1994 on: February 14, 2017, 03:43:56 PM »
Thanks for the suggestions. We might not do the "official" thing as I understand it and eat until full and end up restricting portions if we have to. We have double the grocery budget that we did a little over a year ago so this feels extravagant to us....except we are already 100% gluten free and my kiddos have appetites (and not even close to being teenagers.....AACK!). We can get inexpensive olive oil and that is what we cook with already.

I feel fairly confident that we can get in a lot of eggs (we only by local, pastured due to intolerance to bulk processed/stored eggs). And I'm not going to try to go with grass-fed or pastured meats this time around. Those are very pricey around here. But we have good sources of relatively inexpensive meats plus a fully stocked meat freezer. I get queasy if I eat very much meat or eggs at once though. Not sure what's up with that. And we looooovvveeee veggies! I seriously just adore steamed, stir-fried, and baked veggies. Hopefully the desire for those will last the whole month.

We haven't been spending any on medical so (un)fortunately, no savings there...but an improved diet should save over the long term. And we rarely eat out either. We'll get it figured out though.

Thanks again...tomorrow is Day 1 (cringes at the thought of no chocolate).

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« Reply #1995 on: February 14, 2017, 04:53:55 PM »
Luckily potatoes are W30 approved now.

A baked potato topped with a meat sauce can be a pretty nice dinner. Make it a "taco" potato with ground beef and salsa, etc.

Cabbage is cheap this time of year, and very versatile. I like to simply roast it on a sheet pan with oil, salt and pepper.

Roast large amounts of veggies at a time to save on electricity as well.

Use more cooking fat than usual to increase calories in your veggie dishes.  Capture fat from meat to use for other cooking - example, put veggies under a chicken in the oven so they capture the drippings.

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« Reply #1996 on: February 14, 2017, 07:03:06 PM »
Ah yes. The ugly food section. I have that in every grocery store, and it's only bit me in the ass once. I always try new things, and the Asian Market in my area had bittermelon in the ugly food section. Um, it turns out those things are disgusting...and surprisingly bitter. :)

And using squash type thing as a base is a great way of making food go longer. We use baked Mexican Squash (and plantains sometimes too) put through a food processor to thicken up curries. It makes it go a lot farther, and then you don't need stuff like rice to bulk it up.

Oh, and Baba Ganoush for eggplants (which were in the ugly food section last week! 2lbs/$1 of Philippine Eggplant).

I LOVE bittermelon, but you do need to know how to prepare it. Bittermelon soup is my go-to comfort soup. Sooooo good!
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« Reply #1997 on: February 15, 2017, 10:23:12 AM »
Ooooo! They added potatoes? My month is looking up. Potatoes are cheap and easy. Thanks!

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« Reply #1998 on: February 15, 2017, 08:45:19 PM »
Day 1: as usual when I try to do something for myself, everything else seems to explode. I got "breakfast" of eggs and sweet potatoes at 1:30 pm and dinner of chicken and vegetables at 9 pm. I hope this won't be a trend for the next 4 weeks. I did manager to get some groceries, mainly more vegetables. Hopefully I'll have time soon to cook up a batch.

I read wanna chocolate at a beer...long, hard day, but I'm persisting (yeah...woohoo...1/30 of the way?),

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« Reply #1999 on: February 17, 2017, 05:36:22 AM »
Day 2 was awful. Headache, starving...staggering along. I'm pretty sure that the kids gave me their cold/flu.. Hopefully this will improve.