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« Reply #350 on: October 26, 2015, 01:25:27 PM »
Loved the fried potato salad recipe,  Ketchup, thanks for sharing. Was a bit exotic for the kids but hubby and I wolfed down the rest. I have been making big batches of my food and offering it to the family first before bringing out other options.  My 3 year old wolfed down a double serving of monkey bowl, my meat reluctant 5 year old who is currently sprouting before my eyes ate about 500g of slow cooked lamb leg with moroccan spices and preserved lemon. Had plans for the leftovers but guess not! Hubby enjoyed his compliant breakfast of fried potatoes, bacon and eggs, saying he felt very satisfied.  Well, compared to a bowl of cornflakes you would, wouldn't you. Day 13 and I'm feeling great.  Caught up on missed sleep by sleeping like the dead for a couple of nights. Feeling energetic so will get lots done today. Noticed belt on tightest hole and bra looking decidedly empty. Need to pysche myself up for some clothes shopping. Have a great day everyone. Ks

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« Reply #351 on: October 26, 2015, 03:01:03 PM »
Swick - So happy for your husband. In my very limited experience (Day 18) the early successes are so very motivating and more success build up! I love Bragg's -- but yes, I know its not compliant. I'm delighted with the taste of coconut aminos. I have some avacado oil to try out too.

Kiwisonya - I'm going to make a monkey bowl right now, since you just reminded me about them! Yum! Three cheers for new clothes!

I've yet to find a bacon that doesn't have junk in it. I do have 2 sides of grass-fed, hormone free beef coming later this week and am so excited for that! Big $$$$ but I'm pretty fussy about meat; always have been.

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« Reply #352 on: October 27, 2015, 08:04:30 AM »
I do have 2 sides of grass-fed, hormone free beef coming later this week and am so excited for that! Big $$$$ but I'm pretty fussy about meat; always have been.

2 Sides?!?! That's like...a whole cow! I'm jealous you have that much space, mmm tasty cow! I have lamb coming which I am pretty excited about.

SO it seems like for us, the cheapest protein source we have found is....duck! I can get a package of (crappy) ground beef at the store, or I can buy a whole duck for the same price (how does that even work?) granted it is a little less meat, but we also get about a cup and a half of duck fat and a couple of quarts of really good bone broth from each duck.  This is a dangerous realization :D

I've been getting out and walking every day, even when I don't feel like it, even when the weather isn't the greatest, hey if I can get use to the rain, maybe when the snow comes it will be a nice change? I do feel myslef getting stronger and faster so that is pretty cool.

Your lamb sounds AMAZING Kiwisonya! Sounds like you are having some fun and success with converting your family slowly to a better way of eating, way to go!

SO...we have lots of people who haven't updated in a while! How is everyone doing? What are your successes, challenges and experiences?


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« Reply #353 on: October 27, 2015, 09:36:11 AM »
Thank you for sharing sausage recipes, they both sound easy to prepare AND delicious! My two main criteria;)

I'm not sure if I mentioned this, but I tried a serving of full fat yogurt over the weekend and after about an hour, my stomach was cramping and bloated. I also had trouble sleeping that night and my allergies were acting up too. I thought full fat yogurt would be a good dairy to try, but apparently the kind I had (Fage) had 8 grams of lactose in it!

However, I did make wings with butter instead of ghee on Sunday and that went fine. Stomach was a tad rumbly, but nothing like the effects of the yogurt.  I will be trying some aged cheese on Thursday and will report back on how that goes.  I was nervous about reintroducing things, but realized I would much rather do it now, in a controlled setting, versus being out and about somewhere.

I'm also testing the waters with a clean-eating version of keto. It's going pretty good so far, and I've dropped a couple more pounds since the end of my W30.

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« Reply #354 on: October 27, 2015, 09:48:47 AM »
Thanks for the update, Liz!

Interesting that yogurt would have such an effect. Darn. That doesn't bode well for me re-introducing it! I was thinking it couldn't possibly be as bad as the milk we tried!

So far we have introduced Buckwheat and Quinoa successfully.  Will probably try to re intro something else this weekend, not sure what yet.

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« Reply #355 on: October 27, 2015, 11:10:24 AM »
Hi Swick and Gang!

I have some very exciting news! The size 14 jeans I bought in Fall 2009 fit me this morning! I had a miscarriage in January 2010 and was pregnant again in July 2010 with my last child so I know for a fact that I haven't worn them more than 3x. They aren't ridiculously tight either. Snug but definitely the way you'd buy them. I can't even believe this is happening to me!!!!! So I started out 19 days ago barely fitting my size 18 clothes and am now comfortably fitting size 14's? I am scale free so I won't know for sure whAt I've lost until
I get to the end of this first whole30.

Last night, I was getting ready for bed And my face looks noticeably thinner. I went to show my husband. He said, "Other people who don't know you're doing Whole30 are going to start to notice!" I don't even look like the "me" I've come to know these last few years.

I have houseguests coming Wedneaday and Thursday nights but I will be cooking and in control of
The food so it shouldn't be a problem. I have 2 chickens out thawing for our first dinner and am considering burgers on the grill for the 2nd night.

Husband just sent me this text:

"You are amazing!! So happy and VERY proud of you"

Does it get any better than that?!

Have a great day, everyone! Off to enjoy my poached eggs:-)
Sorry for the typos - iphone

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« Reply #356 on: October 27, 2015, 11:28:22 AM »
Hi Swick and Gang!

I have some very exciting news! The size 14 jeans I bought in Fall 2009 fit me this morning! I had a miscarriage in January 2010 and was pregnant again in July 2010 with my last child so I know for a fact that I haven't worn them more than 3x. They aren't ridiculously tight either. Snug but definitely the way you'd buy them. I can't even believe this is happening to me!!!!! So I started out 19 days ago barely fitting my size 18 clothes and am now comfortably fitting size 14's? I am scale free so I won't know for sure whAt I've lost until
I get to the end of this first whole30.

Last night, I was getting ready for bed And my face looks noticeably thinner. I went to show my husband. He said, "Other people who don't know you're doing Whole30 are going to start to notice!" I don't even look like the "me" I've come to know these last few years.

I have houseguests coming Wedneaday and Thursday nights but I will be cooking and in control of
The food so it shouldn't be a problem. I have 2 chickens out thawing for our first dinner and am considering burgers on the grill for the 2nd night.

Husband just sent me this text:

"You are amazing!! So happy and VERY proud of you"

Does it get any better than that?!

Have a great day, everyone! Off to enjoy my poached eggs:-)
Sorry for the typos - iphone

YAY! This whole post makes me so happy :) Awesome job 1967mama, it is so fantastic that you are getting results and appreciation from your hubby for all the major changes you have been making!

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« Reply #357 on: October 27, 2015, 12:53:30 PM »
Hi everyone,  1967mama, I am so excited for you. It does feel a bit weird (in an awesome way) that our bodies can respond so fast given the right fuel. Weight gain is generally a slow and steady affair but to wake up looking different due to losing weight is a foreign experience. Go you! And what a fabulous hubby, you're a lucky lady.
Swick, yay for duck. I love duck but it is pricey in NZ. I treated myself to a pack of duck fat so I can make the best ever roast potatoes -drooling!
I put my skinniest jeans on this morning to find that they are baggy. Yay! One thing that hasn't come right yet are my sinuses. But I think I may have a sinus infection rather than my usual allergies. Trying a few saline rinses before going to the dr. Can't properly taste my food which is a real bummer as everything looks scrumptious. Rushing to get kids out the door but will check in again later. Ks

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« Reply #358 on: October 27, 2015, 01:47:04 PM »
Today is day 30 for me.

Non-Scale Victories
  • Went from a nicely fitting size 36 waist to lose 34 waist. I might have a rebound coming out of keto, so I'm hoping the 34's stick around
  • Face obviously thinner
  • Sleeping well. I'm another insomniac
  • Learned ketosis won't kill me!
  • Fasted 36 hours last weekend, and felt nominal hunger. Interesting datapoint
  • Lost 4cm on chest, 6cm on waist, 0.5cm on thigh. Pleased

Scale Victory: 160 --> 152 lbs. I'm still overweight for my height, but I'm very close to a 'normal' BMI.*

I have some mandatory fun tonight, at a bar. I'm going to have some beer tonight, even though it's jumping the gun$ by 12-ish hours. I'm just so goddamn tired to explaining ketosis, and why 'one little cheat' really will ruin my data. Plus, don't want to stand out as weird in front of the CO, his CO, and (possibly) a three star admiral. Yipes!

*If you're into BMI. It's certainly a problematic measurement scale. Yet, I still have a visible gut, so I don't think it's totally wrong.
$Though, I think I could justify this down to 2 hours. Because, it starts after dinner on day zero, right? Eh? Right??

Now I have to go change into my fancy fucking uniform, and attend a career fair. Look out people, I look fiiiiine!

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« Reply #359 on: October 27, 2015, 02:04:22 PM »
1967mama - That is AWESOME! And you're not even done yet! Very cool. And your husband sounds like a keeper:)

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« Reply #360 on: October 27, 2015, 02:08:36 PM »
Way to Go Sailor Sam!!!
Hope you have an amazing time tonight, and don't pay for it too much tomorrow :) Those are some pretty awesome results!

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« Reply #361 on: October 27, 2015, 02:31:59 PM »
Congratulations,  Sailor Sam! Amazing results -6cm from your waist is huge! Enjoy yourself tonight,  you deserve it.

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« Reply #362 on: October 28, 2015, 12:53:28 AM »
Sailor Sam!

Congratulations! Bet you will FEEL fine in that fancy uniform too! That's a lot of cm to lose -- so impressive! You rocked it!

BMI - You know, for me it's fairly accurate also. My weight feels super healthy when I am one tick inside the healthy BMI range for my height and that was my body's own set point weight in my early adulthood, before kids. It is crazy to think that I'm 70+ lbs over that weight. That is the weight of my 8 year old son and I'm carrying that around with me 24/7/365?! Ack. No wonder I felt like crap all the time!

Your cheat - I would be interested to know how you feel in the coming days. I'm hitting day 20 tomorrow so I'm just 10 days behind you. Still waffling on whether to go immediately into a second whole30 or whether to take a few days off.

Hope you enjoyed your evening. I get what you mean about not wanting to stand out. We had 2 higher ups at our table at that fancy gala I had to go to in my first week of whole30. I started my whole30 again the next day and haven't looked back since.

Cheers, Sailor Sam. You're a real inspiration!




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« Reply #363 on: October 28, 2015, 09:39:38 AM »
Congrats Sailor Sam on finishing the Whole 30! What an accomplishment.

I've seen a bit of a drop in the scale this week. That's encouraging. I'd been maintaining my weight for ~2 weeks even though I've been very compliant. I'm guessing after so many weeks of being on plan there was some fat/water re-calibration going on.

I need to take pictures and measurements to have a different way to stay accountable!

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« Reply #364 on: October 28, 2015, 12:10:47 PM »
Hi Genevieve,  the scales aren't the best way to track your progress as they really only illustrate the water balance going on in your body. It goes up, down and all around as your body gets used to it's new food supply. It can be depressing and off putting which is why they tell you not to weigh yourself during whole30. While not a fine measurement you will notice your clothes getting looser, your face getting thinner and your energy levels getting better.  These seem to be more consistent improvements to measure your progress against.  Day16 today -bring on the tiger blood. I have a busy day running around with 20 preschoolers. Last night I survived our Playcentres AGM with wine and nibbles. A few pieces of pineapple and a few grapes from a cheese platter felt like a treat and I really didn't want anything else.  Filled my wine glass with water and no one noticed. It feels great to have the resolve to stick with this even in the face of temptation that in the past I would have caved to. And you know a switch has occurred in my brain- I'm not making these decisions because I don't want to have to start again. I'm doing it because that food makes me feel crap and I want to continue to feel good. Oh to have control over my eating -probably for the first time since my early teens. Wow! Have a healthy,  happy day everyone.

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« Reply #365 on: October 28, 2015, 12:29:02 PM »
Hi Genevieve,  the scales aren't the best way to track your progress as they really only illustrate the water balance going on in your body. It goes up, down and all around as your body gets used to it's new food supply. It can be depressing and off putting which is why they tell you not to weigh yourself during whole30. While not a fine measurement you will notice your clothes getting looser, your face getting thinner and your energy levels getting better.  These seem to be more consistent improvements to measure your progress against. 

Seconded! I weighed myself fairly often when I started Keto but eventually I had to stop when I got down into areas of "finer weight control". The scale IS good for signaling dehydration, but if it's bad enough for the scale to see it, you aren't paying attention.

It's even worse when you try fat fasting. (Whole30 folks can safely ignore this term... :-) ) Fat fasting will dehydrate the hell out of me and I think I'm losing weight but feeling like crap. Net result is nothing.

I have one friend who weighs every day. Screw that. I weigh maybe every other week now.
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« Reply #366 on: October 28, 2015, 01:53:08 PM »
I weigh about once a week but try not to take too much stock in the number ~ I took some pictures at the beginning of my Whole30, and I need to take some more pictures now to do a comparision!

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« Reply #367 on: October 28, 2015, 02:32:39 PM »
Kiwisonya - That
Was a great description of why you aren't tempted by the sweets and treats and cheese and such - that describes me to a tee! What a victory over food!

Genevieve - I was totally addicted to weighing myself every day before I did the Whole30. I am still working to break those chains but haven't weighed myself since the end of week one. I'm on day 20 now. A few pages ago, SailorSam posted a super article on why the scales lie. It was very helpful to me. I would repost it here but I'm on an iphone at present. I am
Committed to only weighing myself once every 30 days.

I had a really awesome sleep last night. I love that feeling! I just need to string
Several of those together now!

This may be tmi -- but suffice to say I've found my scalp is now 98% healthy. This has been a problem for me for many years.

Have a great day everyone!



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« Reply #368 on: October 28, 2015, 03:26:52 PM »
I've been struggling a bit with the scale thing. In my first whole30 I was mostly good about not weighing myself, but in the week between whole30's my living situation/location shifted and now the scale is just too convenient at the gym. I have not lost weight yet from this one, and have been noticing how much it is messing with my brain to weigh in too frequently. It really, really does not matter that I weigh the same as I did last week. I have resolved to ignore the damn scale.

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« Reply #369 on: October 28, 2015, 03:44:39 PM »
I like the data from weighing in. I don't get obsessive about it. It is what it is. But it does help me keep track of long term trends. Eventually the small moves on the scale add up to something one way or the other.

But I know Whole30 says no weighing so kudos to you all that are abstaining.

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« Reply #370 on: October 28, 2015, 11:03:38 PM »
You can do it, Botanist! I'm feeling a release of the pressure valve about the scale. The more days that tick by without weighing myself, the more I'm noticing all the other great things happening to my body and in my mind. Each day or two, I'm noticing something new! It's amazing and exciting!

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« Reply #371 on: October 29, 2015, 02:34:01 AM »
Help, advice needed on kicking the sugar habit.  Found myself mindlessly snacking on the kids fruit leftovers (big problem hating waste but using myself as the garbage can). Anyhow this set off a raging sugar craving which led me to eat yep, more fruit. Stayed away from the dates but probably had 4 servings of fruit today. Growing up in a fruit bowl area I have probably always eaten too much fruit (like 6 pcs a day) and it has only been very recently that I realized to my embarrassment that this is not a healthy habit. I guess to slay the sugar dragon I need to stop the fruit for the remainder of whole 30 at least. The fact that I am fighting myself over this indicates that fruit is a problem food for me and I would be better to abstain.  But geez, then I'm going to actually have to deal with life's problems instead of stuffing my face. Can't see myself stuffing my face with carrots when I've yelled at the kids. Anyone hear me, got any thoughts?  Ks

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« Reply #372 on: October 29, 2015, 08:07:23 AM »
KiwiSonya - you recognized a trigger for you both in the fruit and the circumstances. That is a great step!
 A few thoughts:
Not wanting to waste food = you becoming essentially a human garbage can. Do your kids see you always clearing their plates? Is this something you want to be modeling for them (Especially if you have a girl)? I think conversations around food and learning how to listen to your body are super important. Serving less food to start and teaching kids how to listen to their bodies and take more if they need it is a better strategy then wasting food or feeling like they (or you!) have to clean everything off their plates.

Are your fruit sugar cravings emotional, physical or psychological? It sounds like you need to develop some other self-care routines or alternatives. Especially if they are triggered by such things as yelling at the kids. Deep breathing exercises are a great way to find your center any time, anywhere. Also creating space in a situation, sometimes it takes saying "I'm upset about this situation. I need  to take a few minutes out"  Step away and do some deep breathing.

One thing I have found really helpful is I have gotten into a habit of asking myself "why am I eating?" every time I put something in my mouth. It is a couple of second check-in to how I am feeling. If the answer is anything other then "I am physically hungry" I take a minute and some space to examine my feelings and see if food is indeed the solution I am looking for.

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« Reply #373 on: October 29, 2015, 08:30:03 AM »
KiwiSonya ~ Since I'm trying out the keto thing, I've pretty much cut out fruit and I've noticed that my Sugar Dragon has gone down even more.  I think cutting out fruit for the rest of your W30 as a temporary measure is a great idea, and then you can figure out what makes you feel the best once you are done. Consider it an experiment of sorts:) Also, what types of fruit are you eating? I know for me, apples, strawberries, and melon fruits taste incredibly sweet, while raspberries are more tangy to me, and I am less likely for me to eat the whole freaking box. And swick makes some great points, as usual. Just recognizing a trigger is a great step, and shows that you are in-tune with your way of eating and reactions, etc.

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« Reply #374 on: October 29, 2015, 09:58:36 AM »
Your cheat - I would be interested to know how you feel in the coming days. I'm hitting day 20 tomorrow so I'm just 10 days behind you. Still waffling on whether to go immediately into a second whole30 or whether to take a few days off.

Tuesday I ended up eating a tootsie roll bite, and a mini-brownie at the recruiting event. My social function got postponed, so I didn't end up drinking any alcohol. I started the day prepared to come out of ketosis, so I spent the afternoon treating myself to some higher glycemic index vegetables. Despite the vegetables and the candy, I was still in ketosis at bedtime that night. I was surprised, but pleased.

Yesterday was my mandatory fun, and it was actually pretty enjoyable. I ordered a highly anticipated burger and fries for dinner, and had a few beers. I ended up leaving half the fries because I was full. I've done such things before, but all previous moments of french fry abandonment came from a place of discipline. Yesterday I simply didn't want any more, so I stopped eating. I really enjoyed the lack of drama.

Stopped on the way home to get some Halloween candy for the trick-or-treaters, and I ate 4 fun-sized pieces*. They tasted okay, but not amazing, and I definitely some stomach pain after eating them. I appreciate that data point. I'm not particularly drawn to sugar, so the memory of the pain should be enough to stop any stray cravings for candy.

Moving forward, I envision a 10 day cycle. So, 10 days of clean$ eating, with some sort of IF thrown in. Then a 3-5 days for anything I happen to be craving. Thirty days is good for discipline and resolve, but the cycle is too extended for my psyche. I get angry and depressed by day 20 because my goal has become such a lengthy trudge. It stops being about the food in any kind of way, and becomes about sticking the 30. Probably not the best method for me, so I'm not going to use it.

*had to sample each type that came in the combo pack! Otherwise things would be unbalanced.

$I'm loathed to use that word to describe eating, since it's become a semi-sanctimonious nonsense word. Restricted diet is also troublesome because the public sees the phrase restricted as horrific, and possibly due to an eating disorder. I try to explain that my avoidance is due to allergies, but folks just roll their eyes and tell me that dairy allergies don't exist. Then I get lectures about mental health, which I don't take with very much grace. I find it all very complicated. Does this happen to anyone else?

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« Reply #375 on: October 29, 2015, 10:04:17 AM »
Hi all! 

I am jumping in with you on this crusade.  I did a Whole 30 challenge last spring and felt really good while doing it.  I lost a little weight and generally felt good.   

The thing that I really noticed was that I felt better emotionally.  I had fewer highs and lows and just seemed calmer.  With the darker days lately, the winter blues are creeping in and I really don't want to go down that dark path. 

And I seriously need something to focus on during this season of baked goods and candy!  All of that sugar and bread makes me blue, blue, blue.  Those sugar highs and lows are brutal on my stability. 

Started today well with eggs, spinach and some avocado.  Tasty and filling.  Well, mostly filling.  Close enough. 

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« Reply #376 on: October 29, 2015, 11:28:58 AM »
Welcome ruthiegirl!  Did you officially start today? 

SailorSam - Congrats on the strong finish!  I have to admit that I was so tempted by the chocolate bars that I bought yesterday for Halloween.  But, I didn't give it! The thing that helped me through it was mefla's manifesto on the upcoming season.  Sounds like you had a good learning experience from partaking.  :-)  That's what it's all about.  Learning and adjusting.

Kiwi - Totally laughed when I read your comment about stuffing your face with carrots.  I agree with all the other comments, and your idea to cut out the fruit for the rest of the time.

As for that darned scale!  Get rid of it! I'm also not a huge fan of BMI.  Two examples of why.....about 10 years ago I was around 170 lbs, which is smack in the middle of the overweight category for my BMI. But, I felt FAN.TAS.TIC, and from what others said, I also looked fantastic. I was running about 30 miles a week, lifting weights, and kept active (ALL pre-kids :-)).  I couldn't give a rat's ass what my BMI was at that time.  Another example...I have a female friend who is an MMA fighter.  She's my height, and literally doesn't have an ounce of fat on her.  I would have put her in the 120-130 lbs range.  One day she told me what she weighted.  She was 155!  I was shocked!  I would have never put her at that weight.  And guess what, at 155 she was officially in the overweight category for BMI. Bull!

My point to this long paragraph is get over the numbers, whether it's weight or BMI!  Just so you know, I'm also preaching to myself, because I've been brainwashed for years into caring about this, and it's still a daily struggle for me.  But, I'm getting better. I even helped to type this out, as a reminder to myself.

Reintro update - I've decided to add back in rice this weekend. We'll see how it goes!  :-)

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« Reply #377 on: October 29, 2015, 11:59:40 AM »
The thing that helped me through it was mefla's manifesto on the upcoming season. 

In the interest of full disclosure, I changed my screen name to "Faraday". There were two new folks who joined, with names amazingly close to "mefla" (a nonsense word I made up, thinking "Surely no one else will get close to that, right?") One of the two is even geographically close to me, which surprised me even more....

I felt a little sad leaving the name behind and I don't mean to cause confusion, but here I am.
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« Reply #378 on: October 29, 2015, 12:56:28 PM »
Thanks for the sage advice everyone, you're awesome.  Love the idea of asking 'why am I eating?' - I'm sure there are a ton of possible reasons none of which involve hunger. And I know this as I've been like this since I was a teen. I remember asking a friend how she knew how much to eat to keep trim.  Her reply was something like 'I eat when I'm hungry and stop when I'm full. Coming from a plate clearing household that was the first time I had ever heard someone articulate that and I've spent the past 20 years trying to implement this without success (mainly I think because of the addictive nature of carbs). But here's my chance to sort out these fucked up habits once and for all. I agree it's bad for my kids because I learned it from mine. Will try no fruit, asking why I am eating and a bit of deep breathing and will see how I go. Have also found brushing my teeth when I want food for the wrong reasons to be helpful. Thanks everyone.  Ks

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« Reply #379 on: October 29, 2015, 01:27:19 PM »
I don't know about you guys, but my sensation of hunger is much different now that I'm eating this way. I don't get the huge hunger pains and the mental crash of must have food. Instead my stomach starts to feel empty and at some point I realize I probably should eat.

Have you guys found that your experience of hunger has changed?

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« Reply #380 on: October 29, 2015, 03:01:55 PM »
I don't know about you guys, but my sensation of hunger is much different now that I'm eating this way. I don't get the huge hunger pains and the mental crash of must have food. Instead my stomach starts to feel empty and at some point I realize I probably should eat.

Have you guys found that your experience of hunger has changed?

Absolutely! That is definitely one of things I noticed during the Whole30 (and now). No more getting "hangry." :-)

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« Reply #381 on: October 29, 2015, 04:18:04 PM »
I don't know about you guys, but my sensation of hunger is much different now that I'm eating this way. I don't get the huge hunger pains and the mental crash of must have food. Instead my stomach starts to feel empty and at some point I realize I probably should eat.

Have you guys found that your experience of hunger has changed?

YES! Now, let me confess: doing keto vs Whole30, I used to experience "hanger" to a dramatic degree. But my experience of both hunger and satiety are more consistent, more understandable, more reasonable than before. I follow a kind of "schedule" now that is predictable and my energy levels are much more consistent than before.
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« Reply #382 on: October 29, 2015, 05:12:59 PM »
The thing that helped me through it was mefla's manifesto on the upcoming season. 

In the interest of full disclosure, I changed my screen name to "Faraday". There were two new folks who joined, with names amazingly close to "mefla" (a nonsense word I made up, thinking "Surely no one else will get close to that, right?") One of the two is even geographically close to me, which surprised me even more....

I felt a little sad leaving the name behind and I don't mean to cause confusion, but here I am.

Aww I'm so glad you are back  - whatever the name. I was just thinking this morning that I miss mefla and should send a pestering PM for having abandoned us and leaving us all desolate. Guess I get to cross that off my to do list :D
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« Reply #383 on: October 29, 2015, 06:36:04 PM »
The thing that helped me through it was mefla's manifesto on the upcoming season. 

In the interest of full disclosure, I changed my screen name to "Faraday". There were two new folks who joined, with names amazingly close to "mefla" (a nonsense word I made up, thinking "Surely no one else will get close to that, right?") One of the two is even geographically close to me, which surprised me even more....

I felt a little sad leaving the name behind and I don't mean to cause confusion, but here I am.

Aww I'm so glad you are back  - whatever the name. I was just thinking this morning that I miss mefla and should send a pestering PM for having abandoned us and leaving us all desolate. Guess I get to cross that off my to do list :D

I'd go nutso without the forums. I'm in that phase of working toward FIRE where you've gotten rid of all the bad stuff and you are accumulating good stuff, but it's not happening fast enough. I think Pete calls it the "boredom" phase? I just want to hurry up and get to my number and get the house paid off. So I keep telling myself:

DON'T PANIC AND KETO ON.... :-)
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« Reply #384 on: October 30, 2015, 02:27:19 PM »
I'm happy to report that I survived 2 days of houseguests while remaining Whole30 compliant.  Dinner the first night was 2 chickens done in the oven with seasonings and 2 pans of roasted vegetables with olive oil, salt, pepper and rosemary. I also made a pot of brown rice for the rest of the family and the company.

The 2nd night, we had burgers on the grill. Since they were premade patties, they had fillers and such, so I thawed and ate a piece of mahi mahi instead. I did 2 pans of fries from a bag in the oven and for myself, I cut up a cooked red potato and fried it in a little clarified butter and added spices.  I also made coleslaw with Whole30 mayo and added salt, pepper and mustard. Everyone loved the coleslaw -- little did they know! haha

Thawing some salmon for dinner and planning for extra fish for the weekend for quick leftovers for me to eat.

I'm really enjoying everyone sharing their successes and challenges. It really helps!

I'm on Day 22 of my first Whole30. I feel like a bit of walking is helping accelerate things -- my clothes are starting to fit (things I haven't been able to wear!)


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« Reply #385 on: October 30, 2015, 09:24:24 PM »
I'm happy to report that I survived 2 days of houseguests while remaining Whole30 compliant.  Dinner the first night was 2 chickens done in the oven with seasonings and 2 pans of roasted vegetables with olive oil, salt, pepper and rosemary. I also made a pot of brown rice for the rest of the family and the company.

The 2nd night, we had burgers on the grill. Since they were premade patties, they had fillers and such, so I thawed and ate a piece of mahi mahi instead. I did 2 pans of fries from a bag in the oven and for myself, I cut up a cooked red potato and fried it in a little clarified butter and added spices.  I also made coleslaw with Whole30 mayo and added salt, pepper and mustard. Everyone loved the coleslaw -- little did they know! haha

Thawing some salmon for dinner and planning for extra fish for the weekend for quick leftovers for me to eat

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« Reply #386 on: October 31, 2015, 04:34:35 PM »
My daughter and I and my 2 little boys got out for a nice, brisk walk at the seaside today. The fresh air and exercise did me good.

Breakfast was 2 eggs with peppers and onions fried up in clarified butter. Lunch was leftover salmon and Greek salad made without feta cheese. Snack just now was an apple dipped
in almond butter. There were a few cups of tea thrown in there too.

I'm sleeping better when I'm cutting myself off decaf tea after 12 noon. Awesome for a life-long insomniac!

This weekend I've been reading Gut by Giuliani Enders. Fascinating and eye-opening. I can't believe how much I've been abusing my poor insides all these years:-(

Feeling so good these days. So is my daughter. It's a lovely thing to do this together. 

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« Reply #387 on: October 31, 2015, 11:20:43 PM »
You're doing so great 1967mama and wonderful to have your daughter doing it too. This way of eating is pretty much automatic now.  I don't even look at other foods even when serving them to my boys. Big challenge next weekend when we are going tent camping for two nights. Will use your excellent guidelines to get me through.  Can't even remember what day I'm on now, will have to check on the calendar! I haven't been great at eliminating fruit but have found fruit to be less of a problem with meals -none as snacks as that seems to set me off. Hope you're all doing well. Ks

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« Reply #388 on: November 01, 2015, 01:50:09 AM »

Kiwisonya - Thanks so much! I'm looking forward to the day when it becomes automatic to eat this way. 

In other news, I fit into my daughter's jeans today! (they are too big for her now)

Mind = Blown!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #389 on: November 01, 2015, 10:06:10 AM »

Kiwisonya - Thanks so much! I'm looking forward to the day when it becomes automatic to eat this way. 

In other news, I fit into my daughter's jeans today! (they are too big for her now)

Mind = Blown!!!!!!!!!!

Existential crisis for the clothier Not Your Daughter's Jeans in 3, 2, 1, now.

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« Reply #390 on: November 01, 2015, 12:17:09 PM »
Completely NOT Whole30, but on Friday I made the Fathead pizza crust (http://www.ditchthecarbs.com/2015/04/23/fat-head-pizza/) with aged mozzeralla. Happy to report that it was great and I had no stomach problems, etc. after eating it. I was worried about reintroducing cheese after the yogurt issues, but it went as well as could be! I'm not planning on making the pizza often since I want to try to stick to the W30-style eating most often, but it might be once or twice a month option in my household.:)

I hope everyone had a wonderful Halloween and weekend! Happy November 1st!

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« Reply #391 on: November 01, 2015, 02:41:26 PM »
Sailor Sam - That's awesome! Ironically, I have numerous pairs of Not Your Daughter's Jeans that are too big for me! I have 2 pairs that are a little smaller and I'm waiting a few more weeks to try those on.

Am I the only one who is so glad that Halloween has come and gone? I wasn't terribly tempted by the candy but it might have been nice to have a Mars bar and a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup, or twelve!

For breakfast, my daughter surprised us and made eggs with onion and red bell pepper bits and spices in muffin cups and baked them. They were delicious! We also had a sliced tomato and a leftover sausage patty that I made last night. I felt like I was having a deluxe breakfast at a fancy hotel. So good.

After breakfast, my husband and I went for a 45 minute walk in the rain. I am finding I'm not so out of breath on the hills and can actually carry on a somewhat breathy conversation. Feels awesome!

Lunch was a green smoothie (we have these rarely, maybe once a week - I know they are frowned upon) with loads of lettuce, coconut water, a date and a banana. I made another batch of Whole30 mayo and had a can of tuna with some bits of cut up celery and the mayo ... mmmm!

Sitting with a mug of Raspberry and Pomegranate herbal tea and settling in by the fire to read more of Gut which I mentioned upthread. Fascinating read.

Have a lovely Sunday, everyone!

(and welcome back Faraday!)

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« Reply #392 on: November 01, 2015, 03:24:53 PM »
Halloween has also made it to NZ although still not especially widespread.  We had fun dressing up in sheets and pretending to be ghosts up and down our street. The treats were mostly marshmallows or cheap made in China sweets that I don't find at all tempting. Do expect to feel a pang of regret next weekend when we toast marshmallows over a campfire though but will take pineapple and give that a whirl in the flames. Had to take myself off to the doctor this morning as my sinuses are terrible and I now have antibiotics, probiotics and more antihistamines to take. I was hoping whole30 would cure my seasonal allergies but it hasn't happened yet and I now have a sinus infection.  Still, I don't feel bad, just having to blow my nose every 2 mins which is a pain. This afternoon I'm taking my youngest son to the pools with some friends.  Not ashamed to be seen in my swimsuit although far from a bikini body. Take care everyone. Ks

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« Reply #393 on: November 01, 2015, 09:11:46 PM »
Am I the only one who is so glad that Halloween has come and gone? I wasn't terribly tempted by the candy but it might have been nice to have a Mars bar and a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup, or twelve!

Made it ok here, no problems. Although I'm eyeing a keto Reese's cup recipe on ruled.me for the wife unit.

I've been taking pictures of the crazy Oreo and other kinds of seasonal displays that are getting stood up in grocery stores and Wal-Mart. Makes me good an mad to see them. Nothing like good 'ol seething anger to reinforce your willpower!

BTW: If anyone's interested, we tried "Honeycrisp" apples and they are remarkable. Also 'effing expensive at nearly $3/lb at Wal-mart, but lordy they are good.

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That sounds like an excellent variation on these:
http://www.ruled.me/jalapeno-popper-egg-cups/
I think I want to try that recipe twice, once with the jalapenos and once with your variation, the onion and red bell pepper bits and spices.  DW and I are looking at doing a crustless quiche too...

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« Reply #394 on: November 02, 2015, 11:20:11 AM »
Faraday, I think you will like your breakfast poppers more than mine due to the addition of bacon and cheese!

I'm on day 25 of my first Whole30 today. I'm kind of glad my end date falls on a weekend so I won't be quite as busy and can take note of any unusual symptoms as I add back 1 food group. I'm leaning towards adding grains (excluding wheat), but I also can hear dairy products calling my name...hmmm.

I still plan to jump right back into another Whole30 within a day or two. I still have much weight to lose to be healthy and I know I've had great success this first round, even though I haven't stepped on the scale since sometime in week 1 (at that point, I'd lost 4.8 lbs already, well at least by the scales. Probably mostly water weight but exciting nonetheless!)

My sweet little 8 year old boy made me a sliced apple and almond butter for breakfast to surprise me. I couldn't say no, even though I was looking forward to eggs today.

My adult daughter couldn't wait to go to work today to tell the ladies who are pooh-poohing Whole30 that she is wearing jeans she bought in 2012 AND her mom is wearing her old jeans!! YAY!

Lunch will be a salad with tuna and W30 mayo and dinner is a meat spaghetti sauce.  My daughter and I will be having zoodles (zucchini noodles done with a carrot peeler) -- I couldn't believe how delicious they were. I've started the sauce this morning so it will simmer all day in the crockpot. The addition of 1/2 cup of applesauce cuts the acidity of the tomatoes. In the past, I've always added about 1/4 cup of white sugar to a big pot of sauce ... ewwww!

That reminds me, last night I bought a Happy Planet smoothie in a bottle at the grocery store to share with my daughter as a treat (they are compliant). I had some in the car and when I got home, I said to my daughter, "That was too sweet ... said your mom, NEVER!" Wow! I'm not sure I've ever uttered those words!

Have a great day everyone! How was your weekend?


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« Reply #395 on: November 02, 2015, 11:39:12 AM »
Liz - Good to know that the mozza pizza crust didn't affect you, there is some hope for me!

KiwiSonya - Sorry you are still having issues with your Seasonal Allergies. Hoping you get back to feeling normal soon! Good job on not being tempted by the Halloween Candy! I'm happy to say that I didn't find it even remotely tempting too!

1967mama - It is so awesome to hear how you and your daughter are doing, and that your family is supporting you! So awesome to have your son make you a nice breakfast. He is picking up good habits by the behaviour you are modeling, keep it up! A great big shout out to your daughter too! Hope she has lots of fun with her co-workers today, who knows, maybe one or two of them will be inspired to join in.

Have a HUGE (4kg) batch of Khalua pork in the crockpot. Have been so busy that meal prep has been sliding and definitely feeling like we need to make sure we are getting more greens in. It has been a bit of a shock to the system going from our Garden and CSA veggies back to the expensive and not nearly as tasty store ones. Been feeling a little uninspired.

We are still on the plan, just trying to decide what we should be introducing next. Planning on a US weekend trip with my mom and sister on the 14th, so need to reintro a couple of things before then, just to see how I'm feeling so I have some kind of benchmark.  Planning to eat mostly on plan, but not going to sweat it if I try something that isn't, as long as it is done with consious intent.

That's really what it all comes down to and I think Whole 30 gives you the space and structure to get into the habit of thinking of life that way.

There are quite a few people on the boards who don't budget at all, they buy whatever they want - they just do it with conscious intent. It is not something I ever thought could work (I love my budget) but now I understand the idea behind it a whole lot better and could see it working at some point in the future.

Hubs actually announced yesterday that he is going to start a "Media Whole 30" Becuase he is tired of wasting time on video games and random internet surfing.  He has noticed, especially with doing the whole 30, that playing games/wasting time doesn't make him feel any better they are the nutritionally void (addictive) junk food of the whole 30 in his life. He doesn't have room for them in his life anymore. Call me shocked. I think it is awesome!


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« Reply #396 on: November 02, 2015, 01:15:27 PM »
Hubs actually announced yesterday that he is going to start a "Media Whole 30" Becuase he is tired of wasting time on video games and random internet surfing.  He has noticed, especially with doing the whole 30, that playing games/wasting time doesn't make him feel any better they are the nutritionally void (addictive) junk food of the whole 30 in his life. He doesn't have room for them in his life anymore. Call me shocked. I think it is awesome!

I'm having this problem too. But what makes it tough for me is that I'm constantly reading/researching GOOD things: these forums, ebikes, bicycles, finance, keto/Whole30/ruled.me. Even the shop manuals for my car are online and not printed any more.

I think I need to set a time of day after which I shut the computer off and walk away. 8pm, maybe?

swick, has your DH said how he intends to accomplish his "Media Whole 30"?
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« Reply #397 on: November 02, 2015, 01:16:58 PM »
KiwiSonya - Great job with Halloween, and staying away from the junk!  I was tempted for about 2 seconds by a York peppermint patty (love mint + chocolate), but the temptation passed really quickly. Crap....I was really hoping for you that your allergies would just disappear with the Whole30.  It could be possible that you need longer?  I'm just thinking about other things like gluten, and how that can take quite a while for it to get out of your system. Wishing you the best and feel better soon!

1967mama - You're almost there!  Whooppp, whoppp!  I was thinking about you the other day, as I put on my jeans and they are HUGE!  I think it's time to retire those jeans.  I'm well into my next size smaller, and even those are getting big. Also, I don't want to bum you out, but I will tell you that my weight lose has slowed WAY down.  I'm pretty close to fully compliant and lost about 4 lbs in October.  I have to admit that I was bummed after weighing my self (even after my 'ignore the numbers' post), since I also have about 50 lbs to lose. But, I got over it quickly, and just reminded myself about good I'm feeling, and how much better my clothes are fitting.  Don't get discouraged if this also happens to you.  :-)

Swick  - YES!  Love your hubby's label of 'Media whole 30' for cutting out the electronic distractions. You have a great way with words, and described it perfectly. I've been having a similar 'fight' with myself to cut the Dish cord. There's so much junk on TV now, but there is just that one or two shows that make me keep it.  But....I just ordered an antenna to see what I get OTA, so I'm taking my first step to also cutting the cord (at least for PAYING for that cord).

Yesterday I had my first brown rice in TWO months!  I also had it again for lunch today. So far I feel a little more bloated, but not too bad.  I'm still trying to determine whether it's bloating, or just being full.  I only had about 1/2 cup of rice with each meal, because I wanted to make sure I wasn't stuffing myself.

Hope everyone has another great week and month of eating well!

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« Reply #398 on: November 02, 2015, 02:33:47 PM »
Hubs actually announced yesterday that he is going to start a "Media Whole 30" Becuase he is tired of wasting time on video games and random internet surfing.  He has noticed, especially with doing the whole 30, that playing games/wasting time doesn't make him feel any better they are the nutritionally void (addictive) junk food of the whole 30 in his life. He doesn't have room for them in his life anymore. Call me shocked. I think it is awesome!

I'm having this problem too. But what makes it tough for me is that I'm constantly reading/researching GOOD things: these forums, ebikes, bicycles, finance, keto/Whole30/ruled.me. Even the shop manuals for my car are online and not printed any more.

I think I need to set a time of day after which I shut the computer off and walk away. 8pm, maybe?

swick, has your DH said how he intends to accomplish his "Media Whole 30"?

His idea is evolving and he's trying to figure out the best way to do it. We don't have TV so that is easy.

What it basically comes down to is being very conscious about what he is doing. He's tied to the computer for much of the day at work and also uses the internet for loads of "good" research and such, like you, Faraday. The problem with the "good" research is it can become a time sink and a waste of time - but it is "excusable" because you "are doing something productive" or at least your brain thinks you are and it is easy to believe. This is the SWYPO of the Media whole 30 :)

So it is training yourself and finding that balance and being able to know when you are really, truly doing something productive or you should be doing something else.

To give you an idea, this was the email he sent me at Lunch from work:
"Iíve checked my e-mail once today at 12:05, which is fine. Iíve caught myself once clicking on a non-essential webpage, and checked myself 3 times before clicking anything, but so far so good."

As far as video games, he doesn't want to play them this month. He bundled up his game boy (which he sometimes uses to relax, more often than not it is one more battle/stage/whatever before bed which turns into getting to bed late) and put it in a box in the closet and wrote on the outside of the box: "You get to choose how you spend your time. Do you REALLY want to be wasting it on this?"

He's going to be limiting computer time in the evenings to working on specific projects (he's made a huge list of things he enjoys and wants to get done) or researching specific things he has pre-decided. Again, it's about figuring out how to use the internet as a tool instead of feeding an addiction, loneliness, boredom or some other reason.

This is something he shad said multiple times he would like to do and has never had the follow through, Which is exactly what I (and we) can say about our diet changes. How that we know it is possible and we have this success behind us, I think the results are going to be awesome :)

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« Reply #399 on: November 02, 2015, 04:17:23 PM »
Hubs actually announced yesterday that he is going to start a "Media Whole 30" Because he is tired of wasting time on video games and random internet surfing. I think it is awesome!
I'm having this problem too. swick, has your DH said how he intends to accomplish his "Media Whole 30"?

His idea is evolving and he's trying to figure out the best way to do it. We don't have TV so that is easy.

I'm going to try setting a "shutdown by" time of 9pm. I'll try it the rest of this week, to see how it works out.

swick, how about I start a new thread on this topic rather than polluting the Whole30 thread - if I do, will you contribute with the results DH gets? I'm truly interested in this topic, as I'm starting to lose too much real-world time in the online world...
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