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« Reply #1100 on: February 05, 2016, 09:58:52 AM »
I bought two pairs of SIZE 10 JEANS last night!! Yes, I'm yelling!!!! I've been in 18's for at least 18 years!

One of my ESL students brought us a 3 1/2 pound bag of mini chocolates yesterday. Thanks a lot! Hahha! Since I had just finished my 3rd Whole30 I thought I could handle one or two. About 10 later, I was at home and feeling soooo tired, presumably from getting up early and teaching. I laid down for a bit but couldn't sleep. I forced myself back downstairs to do some mom things. Another hour went by and I went up to bed to lay down again. This second time I was analyzing how much sleep I got last night, etc when I had an ah-ha moment....it was the stupid freaking chocolate that was making me feel foggy and tired!! My tiger blood came back another hour later and I was buzzing around here like a busy littl bee!

I was happy to tell my husband my realization -- that I finally feel like this is a lifestyle for me and not a diet. I still have a long way to go (50lb) but I'm 40+ lbs down so well on my way. My days will be Whole30 with just a loosening of some of the rules. I took a photo of my favourite breakfast for you all yesterday! have a great day everyone -- we've got this!

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« Reply #1101 on: February 06, 2016, 04:03:23 PM »
Hey, my friends! :)) Day 19 here.
How is everyone's weekend going?

I am heading off to a (laaaaate in the game) holiday party, and planning to pre-game my food situation, and bring Oro-friendly snacks. It's all about preparation, right? :) Available food will include: cupcakes, cheese, crackers, waffles, cookies, cookie dough, beer. No thanks!

In other news, I have a confession to make.
Whole30 says not to weigh or measure yourself during the duration of your game. >__>; Well. I cheated. But I was looking down at my cookie pouch, and had convinced myself it was BIGGER. That somehow I was getting FATTER despite eating the best I've eaten in the last... god, probably year.
So I got out the measuring tape. I'd taken a measurement of hips, thighs, bust, and waist on Jan 3rd. I was going to start getting more exercise then (half succeeded...) and wanted a baseline.
You'll notice I don't have a measurement for my cookie pouch on that list (and in case anyone's wondering, that's that lovable (gerrr) balloon of fat that sits right below my belly button.)

Turns out I've lost half an inch off my hips, one and a half inches off my waist, and half an inch of my thighs. I'll take it!

Conclusion: My cookie pouch is likely not diminished, but also likely not larger either. My frame of reference just shrunk!

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« Reply #1102 on: February 06, 2016, 05:16:14 PM »
The first week is in the books!

Remembering childhood days of Jello I tried a new tactic--I nuked half a mugful of the coconut/almond milk, whisked in the tablespoon of gelatin, then added more milk to cool it down.  SUCCESS!  No lumps or grit, and it tasted like borderline hot cocoa, rich and creamy but with way fewer calories.  I'm not a coffee drinker but this makes a nice breakfast beverage and afternoon snack.

Tomorrow is food prep day.  More vanilla/cinnamon almond milk, chopping up cauliflower for "rice" in my Cuisinart since a local store was having a good sale on fresh heads. 

I had to work overtime this morning, which means that my supervisor arrives bearing either donuts or bagels.  Today it was bagels. Fortunately she's not pushy with them.  They were from Panera Bread anyway, which means they were bread donuts rather than real bagels. 

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« Reply #1103 on: February 08, 2016, 03:06:01 AM »
Week 1 finished!  I didn't do terribly well this weekend - I did stick to the program, but ate way too many dates (that I bought to use in a red cabbage salad).  But all in all, I'm slowly getting used to it.  I cooked a bunch of things yesterday so I have all my meals planned and prepared for the week :-)

BTW, I am not seeing any improvement at all in my nasal congestion after one week with no dairy...



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« Reply #1104 on: February 08, 2016, 09:53:36 AM »
It's premature, since I haven't hit my 30 days yet, but there is a reason for that.

Lessons Learned From My First Attempt At A Whole30

  • Sugar is in everything - One of the things that this opened my eyes to was the fact at how surprising reading the labels on things can be. Sugar seems to be added to everything, even most Curry Pastes. While I only eat trace amounts regularly (haven't even used my bag of sugar in over 2 years), I still ingest a surprising amount. When I track my food intake using MFP, I have it set up to only look at Macronutrient proportions, and sugar isn't on there. May have to keep an eye on that.
  • Pork Belly is amazeballs - I am a huge advocate and fan of bacon, and have discussed wanting to attempt to cure my own pork belly into delicious bacon. However, until I started this, we hadn't looked too deeply into it. While shopping for interesting foods to keep the Whole30 interesting, we found a regular and delicious supply of it at our local asian market. We'd been there before, and bought stuff, but never looked at the pork belly. Even though I haven't cured my own bacon yet, I've made some new meals with pork belly as the meat. It's cheaper than bacon, and the way we've cooked it provides at least 4 different textures and flavors.
  • Curry paste is easy and delicious to make - This started with the vindaloo pork belly. Heating up seeds and peppercorn, mixing it with garlic and oil, makes for an amazingly flavorful and flexible paste. I've used it as a mix with hash, a marinade/rub, or to mix in with meat and veggies. We've done it a few times, and we'll continue to make it regularly. I still haven't made a huge batch to store and use as we will, but part of that is because I have a really small mortar/pestle. It's on the list though.
  • Clarified butter might be mandatory - Since I get the majority of my calories from fat, and specifically from grass-fed butter, the lack of this during the Whole30 made it a bit difficult to sate my appetite. I didn't make clarified butter this time (and I haven't actually ever done it), but I most certainly will next time.
  • Salads need to be a more regular part of my diet - I absolutely love salads, but they haven't been a regular part of things. We usually do a meat and a veggie side. We've started doing more, even though the other half isn't a fan of delicious chef salads like I am. She likes a touch of sweetness, so we've been experimenting with cabbage, fruit, tomatoes, and mild onions (like scallions or green onions). I think she's coming around to the idea of having a salad with almost every meal (at least on weekends). It's more cost effective than meat, and stretches the meals when I have like 3 of them.


So I'm only on day 14 or something like that, but I'm temporarily throwing in the towel. I'm personally having too many issues with smoking and drinking. Technically, I never had a fully successful day to either one (or both) of those issues. I'm taking a step back for a bit, and working on a few other things. Things like working out, quitting smoking, and getting the booze under control. Once I'm at a less volatile base line, I am going to try it again, and I'm going to try to get the other half to do it with me. I need to start bringing in some money as well, and the next one will be planned a hell of a lot better (with less limitations on cost). It was interesting while it lasted, and I learned some things that I will stick with, but for now, I'm reverting back to my primal lifestyle. I'll go back to lurking on this thread, and jump back in when I restart. I hope there is a lot that other people learn from this. I didn't even stick with it, and learned a lot. Just remember, it's temporary, it's a dietary reset, and it's a learning experience.
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« Reply #1105 on: February 08, 2016, 12:02:35 PM »
It's premature, since I haven't hit my 30 days yet, but there is a reason for that...

Good effort JR. If you're used to using lots of butter, clarifying some is a must. It also tastes amazing on everything. Cool insights on the pork belly and curry paste. I've tried my hand at pork belly once and didn't do it so well, did you follow a recipe or just wing it? Going to have to try making our own curry paste, we have a big mortar and pestle that my mom gave us when I moved out. Best of luck getting everything else settled.

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« Reply #1106 on: February 08, 2016, 11:16:26 PM »
Starting Whole30 #4

Hi everyone,

I started my Whole30 journey in October 2015 and have strung 4 together with a week or so off in between, and have lost 41 pounds and dropped from a size 18 to a size 10. However, I have yet to have a proper reintroduction phase. Unfortunately, each time I have jumbled more than one food group together, feel lousy, and go back onto another Whole30.

Whole30 #3 ended February 4th, 2016 and I would call it a success. My goals for Whole30 #4 include: less snacking, less fruit/more vegetables, more substantial protein servings at lunch and dinner, less juice/more water, less Larabars and dates, more healthy fats, NO SCALE! I find it interesting that I even want to refine my Whole30'ing process. Before discovering Whole30, I didn't care one bit about what I ate, and ballooned up to 70+ pounds over my ideal weight after 2 injuries and surgeries.

I feel like I have my life back, for sure, but I don't yet feel like I've got this! So the fine tuning is hopefully getting me closer to being able to ride my own bike without training wheels. I'm still dealing with my sugar dragon (small s, small d) and so I think that all the fruit, fruit juice, Lara bars and dried fruit are feeding that addiction.

jordanread - Congratualtions on your accomplishment and all the best to you as you attempt to overcome other issues in your life. Jump back in anytime!

ziziPB - Congrats on finishing week 1. I've read that it can take 2 weeks to clear the system of dairy (back in my breastfeeding days when I had a baby that was reacting poorly to the dairy proteins in my milk). YMMV Swick?? Maybe you have more info on this??Don't give up!

MandalayVA - That's smart to have a food prep day. I haven't done that before. Do you meal plan too?


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« Reply #1107 on: February 09, 2016, 04:06:43 AM »
1967mama, #4!  That's impressive!  Your plan and goals sound great.

I am definitely not giving up - I want to go the full 30 days.  I prepped and planned my food for the week on Sunday.  I typically do that anyway, because when I work I'm usually too tired to cook properly.  I like coming home to a dinner waiting in the fridge or freezer.  This time I also prepared my breakfasts (I made a big egg frittata with veggies and sausage that I portioned for the week) and cooked and portioned my lunches (roasted butternut squash, sweet potatoes and beets with curried turkey - sounds weird but tastes great!).  I'm still eating a lot of fruit but limited to fresh this week.  No dates for me this week (they definitely wake up my Sugar Dragon :-).  As to the nasal congestion, I think I actually have a cold so it may be hard to tell. 



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« Reply #1108 on: February 09, 2016, 04:33:32 AM »
Excellent job, Mama! 

I don't really plan meals since for the most part they're fairly simple.  I did branch out on Sunday by making meat loaf for dinner (here's the recipe, without the dairy, of course:  http://www.marksdailyapple.com/lasagna-meatloaf/, leftovers are awesome) and an "Italian sauce" with ground chicken, mushrooms and marinara sauce, which will go on top of cauliflower "rice."  I'm having that tonight since I have an appointment and that can be heated up quickly. 

As another person who treated her body like a toxic waste dump rather than a temple, I'm surprised that I haven't had any clutching moments.  The only sweet things I have are the almond milk, which isn't really sweet at all but just has the nice hint of vanilla and cinnamon, and an apple with my weekday lunches.  I don't really have a sweet tooth but I'm intrigued by Larabars.  One might have come in handy on Saturday when I was hungry but running errands.  I don't think I'd keep a stash, though.

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« Reply #1109 on: February 09, 2016, 08:29:38 AM »
It's great to read everyone's experiences! Jordanread, you have my salute for trying to kick some nasties to the curb. You can totally do it.

I'm on my Day 21

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I had a less than perfect morning. I was feeling kinda shitty in the gut for the first time in a looong time, and I was pretty grumpy about that. But then I took the world's largest poop. So I forgive my body for being grumpy about having all that waiting at the zoo exit doors. ;) Now I'm feeling fab.
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I'm slowly getting prepped for my long weekend away from my kitchen. I made some home-made larabars (dates and cashews smashed together and rolled out) and stuck 'em in the freezer, picked up a bag of apples, and tossed some on-sale (due to expiration dates coming up) guacamole single-serve packets in the freezer too. I've got eggs to hard boil, and a plan to make up a nice big batch of tuna salad. I'm ready to defeat this potential hurtle!

Meanwhile I'm eating up some seriously delicious soup. Carrot and sweet potato = orange deliciousness.
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« Reply #1110 on: February 09, 2016, 09:27:07 AM »
Hi all, popping back in to say hello and WOW, you're all doing really well! MandalayVA, I need some of that meatloaf in my face like, right now! Will definitely be making that this weekend.

So it's pancake day over here in the UK - I debated making them with bananas and eggs, but decided it's too SWYPO-y for me (and would lead to "well, I have to put golden syrup on them, right?!") so I have made myself some fish with sweet potato and broccoli, and have made my husband a stack of pancakes with fruit and chocolate spread. I think I deserve wife points for that!!

1967mama, congrats on finishing so many whole30s, and on your change of mindset :) I think dates and Nakd bars (Larabar UK equivalent) are definitely my sugar substitutes, so have really tried to stop eating them. Something that has worked for me is herbal tea - ymmv, but I find it keeps my cravings in check until they pass.

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« Reply #1111 on: February 09, 2016, 11:23:58 AM »
Good effort JR. If you're used to using lots of butter, clarifying some is a must. It also tastes amazing on everything. Cool insights on the pork belly and curry paste. I've tried my hand at pork belly once and didn't do it so well, did you follow a recipe or just wing it? Going to have to try making our own curry paste, we have a big mortar and pestle that my mom gave us when I moved out. Best of luck getting everything else settled.

The first two times we made it, we followed a recipe. Specifically, the Vindaloo Pork one and the 3 hour pork belly. I was a bit skeptical of the 3 hour one, since it cooks dry. It made the skin super crispy and delicious, and was surprisingly juicy. So overall they were both successful. I got the idea of the curry paste from the Vindaloo pork, and kind of winged it from there.

jordanread - Congratualtions on your accomplishment and all the best to you as you attempt to overcome other issues in your life. Jump back in anytime!

Jordanread, you have my salute for trying to kick some nasties to the curb. You can totally do it.

Thanks for the well wishes everyone. I'll be back, and lurk in the meantime. :)
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« Reply #1112 on: February 09, 2016, 08:48:09 PM »
Still lurking periodically but wanted to share that zoodles (zucchini noodles) are wonderful for anyone debating whether to try them. I have a spaghetti salad recipe that I love except for the whole pasta thing and kept debating what to do about the pasta since pasta and I are mortal enemies (spikes my blood sugar, doesn't keep me full, etc). I had been getting the proportions of veggies to pasta higher and higher but still had pasta so I tried zoodles as a replacement. The zoodles are wonderful. Glad I went with that instead. They don't get soggy either. At least not in my salad (think zesty italian dressing and your choice of cut veggies together with the zoodles, currently zoodles, cauliflower, broccoli, cucumber, olives and tomatoes). Oil and vinegar dressings seem to act to preserve the crunchiness of raw veggies for days on end. I like it so much that I am making it on a regular basis as a side dish (also great over a bed of spinach). Both my husband and my work friend say they prefer the version with the zucchini noodles to real pasta and I think its much better as well.

I think the best way to describe our current eating style is how many vegetables can I eat in one day. Sugar, grains, dairy and food additives are still extremely limited and will remain so. As a result, I will probably wander onto this thread every once and awhile. Hope everyone is doing well.

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« Reply #1113 on: February 09, 2016, 09:04:18 PM »
One awesomely healthy side that is very easy to make is a handful of spinach heated and wilted with a little feta cheese on top. I don't really like spinach but the feta makes it pretty tasty. Throw that next to a couple eggs, half an avocado, some salsa and there's lunch.
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« Reply #1114 on: February 10, 2016, 12:16:06 AM »
Still lurking periodically but wanted to share that zoodles (zucchini noodles) are wonderful for anyone debating whether to try them.

How many folks here have invested in some sort of vegetable spiralizer? I have been using a carrot peeler for our zoodles (had them tonight with a fabulous meaty spaghetti sauce with tons of veggies in it - onion, garlic, bell peppers, celery and spinach).

If you're using one, what brand did you buy? is it worth the $$$? is it easy to use? is it easy to clean?

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« Reply #1115 on: February 10, 2016, 04:35:10 AM »
I really like spaghetti squash as pasta substitute.  It's easy and the taste and texture is great.  Just roast and scoop out. 



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« Reply #1116 on: February 10, 2016, 04:38:20 AM »
I will have house guests Sunday into Monday morning and need to feed them a light lunch on Sunday, dinner on Sunday and breakfast on Monday.  I think I have dinner figured out but any ideas for things to serve that I could also have for lunch and breakfast?



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« Reply #1117 on: February 10, 2016, 06:11:47 AM »
Still lurking periodically but wanted to share that zoodles (zucchini noodles) are wonderful for anyone debating whether to try them.

How many folks here have invested in some sort of vegetable spiralizer? I have been using a carrot peeler for our zoodles (had them tonight with a fabulous meaty spaghetti sauce with tons of veggies in it - onion, garlic, bell peppers, celery and spinach).

If you're using one, what brand did you buy? is it worth the $$$? is it easy to use? is it easy to clean?

I use a mandoline to make zucchini into noodles. Works fine for me, plus I can use it for other things. I think mine is OXO that I got for like $10 at Target.
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« Reply #1118 on: February 10, 2016, 06:26:55 AM »
One awesomely healthy side that is very easy to make is a handful of spinach heated and wilted with a little feta cheese on top. I don't really like spinach but the feta makes it pretty tasty. Throw that next to a couple eggs, half an avocado, some salsa and there's lunch.

You can't have dairy on Whole30.  :D

I have an OXO julienne peeler to make zucchini and squash noodles.  'Tis awesome.  I paid about six bucks for it at Bed Bath and Beyond a few years ago.

And I totally blame 1967mama for my trip to the market yesterday to seek out Larabars.  They are delicious.  I CANNOT HAVE THEM IN MY POSSESSION.

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« Reply #1119 on: February 10, 2016, 07:10:47 AM »
One awesomely healthy side that is very easy to make is a handful of spinach heated and wilted with a little feta cheese on top. I don't really like spinach but the feta makes it pretty tasty. Throw that next to a couple eggs, half an avocado, some salsa and there's lunch.

You can't have dairy on Whole30.  :D

I have an OXO julienne peeler to make zucchini and squash noodles.  'Tis awesome.  I paid about six bucks for it at Bed Bath and Beyond a few years ago.

And I totally blame 1967mama for my trip to the market yesterday to seek out Larabars.  They are delicious.  I CANNOT HAVE THEM IN MY POSSESSION.

:) Some people are in the re-intro phase. Some people don't follow Whole30 to the letter but still enjoy the general lifestyle and community.
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« Reply #1120 on: February 10, 2016, 07:26:00 AM »
Still lurking periodically but wanted to share that zoodles (zucchini noodles) are wonderful for anyone debating whether to try them.

How many folks here have invested in some sort of vegetable spiralizer? I have been using a carrot peeler for our zoodles (had them tonight with a fabulous meaty spaghetti sauce with tons of veggies in it - onion, garlic, bell peppers, celery and spinach).

If you're using one, what brand did you buy? is it worth the $$$? is it easy to use? is it easy to clean?

We have one. Search "spiralizer" on Amazon.com, best seller with 4500+ reviews, $30. Definitely worth it, very easy to use, not too difficult to clean with a brush, but a sponge would be useless. We haven't purchased a spaghetti squash since the day we got it.

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« Reply #1121 on: February 10, 2016, 07:28:59 AM »
Still lurking periodically but wanted to share that zoodles (zucchini noodles) are wonderful for anyone debating whether to try them.

How many folks here have invested in some sort of vegetable spiralizer? I have been using a carrot peeler for our zoodles (had them tonight with a fabulous meaty spaghetti sauce with tons of veggies in it - onion, garlic, bell peppers, celery and spinach).

If you're using one, what brand did you buy? is it worth the $$$? is it easy to use? is it easy to clean?
I have this one .  Love it.  I MO the spiral cut vegetables hold their shape better and don't stick together as much as straight cuts, so they're easier to mix with sauces and prettier too.  It's very easy to clean and easy to use.  If you're making veggie noodles for your whole crew I think it would be worth it.  I see they have a 5 blade one now for the same price.  They are kind of big and clutter though, so I wouldn't recommend if space is athe a premium in your kitchen.

ETA, actually, this is the one I have, but they seem pretty much  identical http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AW3B5MM/ref=twister_B00PUEIQAW?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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« Reply #1122 on: February 10, 2016, 07:45:52 AM »
Hi Everyone!

Wow missed a lot over the past couple of days!

1967 mamma - We have a spiralizer that we got from my mom (she picked it up from the thrift store) apparently they are a pretty common item, so might be worth looking out for? I'm not sure of the brand maybe a paderno? but we like it, makes for much curlier noodles.

Awesome update and for going into your next Whole 30! We are at very similar stages (18 down to 10 and 40+ lbs lost) It is a super good feeling to be getting back to healthy, isn't it?

ZiziPB - Eggs would be the obvious choice, maybe over a nice hash? Or if you want to go super fancy you could make Eggs Benny and have the English muffins on hand for them and use a bed of veg for yours.

RE Dairy: - It took a couple of weeks to clear for me, partially is that there was a lot of gunk in my system that needed to be cleared out as well.  YMMV as far as  it goes, you might not notice a HUGE difference until you do reintro and it all comes flooding back. But one way or another, by the wend of Whole 30, you will be able to either adapt to the reality that it might be dairy or cross it off your list of possible causes.


Caoineag - Great to hear from you! I love the idea of zucchini pasta salad! I am definitely going to have to try!

Jordanread - Thank you for sharing your results thus far. What I have come to realize, having to undo a lot of damage that i have done, is getting back to healthy is more of a marathon than a sprint.  Even if you put a hold on doing the whole 30, please still use us a support if you need to :)

Spuggy - Great job on resisting pancake day!

Orvell - Good luck on your trip, it sounds like you are totally prepared to rock it Whole 30 Style!

I'm just trucking along. Don't think I want to start another strict Whole 30 at this point. Am eating about 99% (or more) Basically eating whole 30 at home and if we happen to go out and there are rice noodles in my Pho, I'm not going to worry about it. Am traveling at the end of the month to visit my extended family, who are all great cooks but have some of the worst food habits I have ever seen. THAT will be interesting!






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« Reply #1123 on: February 10, 2016, 09:12:03 AM »
One awesomely healthy side that is very easy to make is a handful of spinach heated and wilted with a little feta cheese on top. I don't really like spinach but the feta makes it pretty tasty. Throw that next to a couple eggs, half an avocado, some salsa and there's lunch.

You can't have dairy on Whole30.  :D

I have an OXO julienne peeler to make zucchini and squash noodles.  'Tis awesome.  I paid about six bucks for it at Bed Bath and Beyond a few years ago.

And I totally blame 1967mama for my trip to the market yesterday to seek out Larabars.  They are delicious.  I CANNOT HAVE THEM IN MY POSSESSION.

:) Some people are in the re-intro phase. Some people don't follow Whole30 to the letter but still enjoy the general lifestyle and community.

Ah, my mistake. It is still very tasty though :)

I don't consider feta cheese dairy...but then again we consider bacon to be a vegetable ;)

Makes all those "vegetarian" meals quite tasty!!!

On a more serious note I've found that yogurt and cheese and cream are much better tolerated for me than milk. When introducing food back into the diet I would break up dairy into multiple groups, with milk separate.
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« Reply #1124 on: February 10, 2016, 09:16:38 AM »
On a more serious note I've found that yogurt and cheese and cream are much better tolerated for me than milk. When introducing food back into the diet I would break up dairy into multiple groups, with milk separate.

So much this. Milk was by far the worst for me, and the effects seem to last a whole bunch longer. It is definitely worth it to split up the diary in your reintro! It helps you develop a baseline and expectations for how it will affect you. I don't sweat it if something I'm eating out may have a bit of butter or cheese in it, but I want it to be really worth it if I am going to have any ill effects at all.

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« Reply #1125 on: February 10, 2016, 12:01:16 PM »
Hey gang,

Thanks for the awesome tips on spiralizers. I will be considering this purchase over the next few weeks.  I had forgotten about spaghetti squash, actually, so I may pick a few up and try that again. Last time I made it, I overcooked the squash and it was yucky:-/

Day 1 of my 4th Whole 30 went terrifically well! I ate 3 meals, plus an afternoon snack. That was a real change for me. I didn't realize how much extra food I was eating via snacking. At 3pm, I had a monkey bowl, and it tasted awesome! I was truly hungry, as in I could eat boiled fish and broccoli hungry!

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« Reply #1126 on: February 10, 2016, 01:34:46 PM »
I totally just had a light bulb moment... I don't like cold food.  I never have. I just haven't really thought about it before.

I've always had crappy circulation, always have cold hands and feet, my body temp is over all slightly lower than normal. When I get sick my body temp usually goes down not up.

I've never really equated it to influencing food choices and appetite, but it does. I love fresh veggies and salad and stuff in the summer. But winter, when I'm already cold, I have no desire to eat them. Ditto for smoothies, drinks with ice, or really anything that isn't at least warm. I'm contemplating this as I am forcing myself to eat some cucumber slices with some Babaganoosh. I LOVE the flavors...but I have no desire to eat them. I think this is why it's been a struggle for me lately. 

It's kinda random, not really helpful to anyone I just thought it was rather interesting :)

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« Reply #1127 on: February 10, 2016, 01:46:04 PM »
Hit send too early -- kids needed chow!

MandalayVA - sorry for enabling a desire for Larabars in you :-/

I went to the dentist for a cleaning this morning, and the hygienist was blown away by the health of my gums! She said that the tissue is similar to the tissues inside of you - your intestines, your liver, etc and so if your gums are healthy, apparently your inisides are healthy also. I was delighted! Benefit #482 of Whole30. She has a fair bit of weight to lose herself and wanted the website to check it out! yay!

Additionally, she hasn't seen me since July and as I walked in, she said, "You're glowing! Have you lost weight?" ::cue balloons and confetti dropping from the ceiling:: She was the first person outside my circle of family and friends to notice! I'm so psyched!

This was the perfect thing to happen to me on Day 2 of my 4th Whole30!

ETA: Hygienist just called me to say that everyone in the office noticed that I was happy and glowing! What a sweetie! I told her she made my day! She also turned 49 last month like me, and said she is excited to go home and read all about Whole30 and hopes I will see less of her next visit <wink>. How neat is that?! Maybe I have my first non-family convert? 1967dad and 1967daughter are totally on board!
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« Reply #1128 on: February 10, 2016, 02:11:10 PM »
Interesting, Swick!  Have you ever experimented with yang (warming) foods?  Can't seem to paste a link on my phone, but they seem to be mostly paleo.

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« Reply #1129 on: February 10, 2016, 02:20:26 PM »
I totally just had a light bulb moment... I don't like cold food.  I never have. I just haven't really thought about it before.

I've always had crappy circulation, always have cold hands and feet, my body temp is over all slightly lower than normal. When I get sick my body temp usually goes down not up.

I've never really equated it to influencing food choices and appetite, but it does. I love fresh veggies and salad and stuff in the summer. But winter, when I'm already cold, I have no desire to eat them. Ditto for smoothies, drinks with ice, or really anything that isn't at least warm. I'm contemplating this as I am forcing myself to eat some cucumber slices with some Babaganoosh. I LOVE the flavors...but I have no desire to eat them. I think this is why it's been a struggle for me lately. 

It's kinda random, not really helpful to anyone I just thought it was rather interesting :)
I totally understand this. 10000%

Salads for me in the winter are all but impossible. I've been enjoying wilting my greens just *slightly*; enough that they're warm, but it's still sort of 'salad-like' ?? Same with my fried egg + greens in the morning. I let the egg and greens sit for a few minutes so nothing is cold. XD The only way I could do smoothies in the winter was after I'd walked to work and my internal body temp was up from the exercise (and it was so much warmer inside than out, it tricked my internal thermometer, too)

:) Might be worth not trying to force yourself to eat something you're not into.
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« Reply #1130 on: February 10, 2016, 02:43:30 PM »
In the same vein as Swick's comments on noticing the preference for warm foods vs. cold foods, I am soooo freaking cold this winter! I've lost some of that insulating layer of fat! Yay!

My mom has been knitting me big, thick infinity scarves out of warm, non-scratchy wool and they are really helping. Also, socks, slippers, undershirts and copious amounts of hot tea are helping to keep me warmish. This is soooo unusual for me! I've always been the one in the room that is too warm while everyone else is freezing!

I can't wait to see what happens this summer because I'm always too hot and loathe the heat! hahah!


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« Reply #1131 on: February 10, 2016, 05:38:39 PM »
Interesting, Swick!  Have you ever experimented with yang (warming) foods?  Can't seem to paste a link on my phone, but they seem to be mostly paleo.

Are you trying to stay keto (unrelated question)

I am familiar with the Chinese Medicine beliefs, it's not something I have actively looked into myself, but looking at a list I do tend towards more yang foods. Thanks, horsepoor!

Also, I'm not really trying to specifically stay in keto, I haven't really been tracking one way or the other.

Will definitely try your heated greens Idea, Orvell.

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« Reply #1132 on: February 10, 2016, 06:33:09 PM »
Swick - If you're ok with microwaving, I nuke my huge handful of spinach for 1 minutes while my eggs cook. The bit of water left on it from rinsing it seems to provide enough moisture to steam it. The way I used to do it before I discovered the microwaving piece was after the eggs were 3/4 cooked, I plopped a handful of spinach on top and put a lid on it to wilt it a bit. Then I flipped it out of the pan so the egg landed on top of the spinach and steamed it a little more.

We had an avocado emergency today! The ones I bought at a store I don't usually frequent tasted awful! My wonderful son went out to Walmart and got me a mesh bag of them ... and noticed that they were cheaper to buy in the bag than buying them loose .. hopefully raising a future mustachian!

I've got a spatchcocked chicken in the oven and loads of yellow potatoes baking underneath:-) Yum!

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« Reply #1133 on: February 10, 2016, 07:04:54 PM »
Still lurking periodically but wanted to share that zoodles (zucchini noodles) are wonderful for anyone debating whether to try them.

How many folks here have invested in some sort of vegetable spiralizer? I have been using a carrot peeler for our zoodles (had them tonight with a fabulous meaty spaghetti sauce with tons of veggies in it - onion, garlic, bell peppers, celery and spinach).

If you're using one, what brand did you buy? is it worth the $$$? is it easy to use? is it easy to clean?

I use a mandoline to make zucchini into noodles. Works fine for me, plus I can use it for other things. I think mine is OXO that I got for like $10 at Target.

+1, I have a OXO mandolin and one of the attachments turns veggies into spaghetti. Didn't have to buy anything, just had to use that attachment (we actually had it for other reasons). I think spaghetti squash is great for anything requiring hot pasta but for cold pasta, the zoodles are fantastic because they also have a little crunch (hate soggy food).

Swick, I sympathize on cold food in the winter. Salads were never a thing I could eat in the winter. Since work is always too warm, its fine to eat cold things there but at home if I get too cold, I want boiling hot food. I have actually done better with this during this winter but the stair climbing I have been doing seems to keep my body temperature up because of all the muscle needing to be built and repaired. Running on the other hand seems to require something scalding hot to eat afterwards. Go figure.

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« Reply #1134 on: February 10, 2016, 09:41:20 PM »
I'm back. My food choices have been pretty poor for the last couple months, though I have been very careful to not eat wheat. I am going to start my third whole30 tomorrow.

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« Reply #1135 on: February 10, 2016, 11:58:19 PM »
Welcome back Botonist! I just started again yesterday so we will be going along around the same pace.

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« Reply #1136 on: February 11, 2016, 04:10:40 AM »
Welcome Botanist!  Good to have another person joining us.

It's day 11 for me.  Doing fine on the program, except that now I have a full blown yucky cold with a lot of congestion and a bad cough.  I haven't been sick in years so I'm not sure if the timing is a coincidence or my body is telling me something.  Needless to say that I have no idea if not eating dairy affects my chronic nasal congestion or not ;-)

I've been drinking what seems like gallons of hot tea in the last couple of days - it helps with the misery of the cold.  Any food I eat tastes a bit off, so my normally hearty appetite seems subdued.  But I did crave a sweet treat last night in the worst possible way.  I had some walnuts instead...



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« Reply #1137 on: February 11, 2016, 04:13:59 AM »
Hello, and welcome to Day 12!  (old school Canadian comedy reference)

Still doing well and keeping the Larabars in check, LOL.  I've also discovered cashew milk, which I will try to make this weekend.  I'm going to try flavoring it with an apple and cinnamon and see what happens. 

Like 1967mama  I also had eggs and spinach for breakfast today, the spinach being left over from last night's dinner (grass-fed NY strip steak cooked rare, mmm).  Chicken thighs, green beans and an apple for lunch; a pork shoulder steak and broccoli for dinner.

Sorry you're sick, Zizi, keep up with the tea, you're doing great!

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« Reply #1138 on: February 11, 2016, 02:41:55 PM »
Swick, I sympathize on cold food in the winter. Salads were never a thing I could eat in the winter. Since work is always too warm, its fine to eat cold things there but at home if I get too cold, I want boiling hot food. I have actually done better with this during this winter but the stair climbing I have been doing seems to keep my body temperature up because of all the muscle needing to be built and repaired. Running on the other hand seems to require something scalding hot to eat afterwards. Go figure.

Yep, I hear you. I also work from home, and try to keep the heat as low as possible, so I'm sure that has a lot to do with it as well. My limbs tend to get cold and stay cold. Like if I go for a walk, I'll be fine. As soon as I come in, I'll have cold legs for the rest of the day and it takes forever to warm up enough to sleep. I am definitely the "warmth appropriator" in our house :)

1967mama We don't own a microwave, I keep tossing around the idea of getting one, it would cut down on a lot of the food prep/dishes eating this way seems to create. Not sure where I would put it though!

Welcome back, Botanist :)

ZiziPB - Sorry to hear you aren't feeling well. Hope you recover quickly and are kind to your body in the meantime!

MandalayVA - Great to hear you are doing well! Sounds like you have some good meals to look forward to!

Things are trucking along here. I made a surprisingly tasty curry with Ma Ploy Tamarind Curry paste, ground beef, cauliflower and coconut milk.

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« Reply #1139 on: February 12, 2016, 06:49:49 AM »
I am still miserable from my cold.  Cooked chicken soup early this morning so that I can have it for lunch (and dinner, most likely).  Otherwise doing all right.  I thought I would miss coffee badly, but I'm actually very happy with my morning black tea with lemon.  The second week so far has been much easier than the first.

Oh, and I decided to serve Nicoise salad for lunch when my guests arrive on Sunday.  I have some really good Italian tuna packed in olive oil, great free-range eggs from Costco and some nice olives, just need to get the rest of the ingredients tomorrow.



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« Reply #1140 on: February 12, 2016, 11:13:16 AM »
I have found a countdown app for my phone so that I don't lose track of what day I'm on. Kinda fun!

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« Reply #1141 on: February 13, 2016, 08:11:47 AM »
Feeling better today, so I went grocery shopping before the cold and wind pick up in the afternoon.  The forecast calls for -8F tonight! 

Had to get some stuff to feed my friends over the weekend so I ended buying things like cheese, crackers, bagels, deserts, etc.  And a bottle of wine.  I am determined to stick to the Whole 30 so I'm planning to make dishes I can eat for the most part and just skip the items I can't.  I think it will be OK.



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« Reply #1142 on: February 13, 2016, 07:51:42 PM »
Ive been having a horrendous diet for the majority of 2016 so far, so now I'm serious about getting back on track. I won't be going full paleo, but will eliminate processed foods, sugar, dairy, and wheat.

So today I had:

-Hot lemon water with cayenne and ginger
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« Reply #1143 on: February 14, 2016, 06:31:09 PM »
I survived a 3 day convention while out of town and living in a crowded hotel room, all the while staying on the Whole30 track! I think I need a ribbon for that...
I didn't eat amazing or interesting food. And my god I am fucking food exhausted today. But I did it. Amid a land of Cheetos and pizza and freely available junk food and danish, I ate hardboiled eggs, greens, fruits, and tuna salad that I stashed in a portable cooler.

Thank you to everyone for the ideas on portable Whole30 foods. :))
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« Reply #1144 on: February 15, 2016, 06:00:33 AM »
Orvell, great job!  It's not easy to stick to it when there is lots of tempting non-compliant food around you.

I had weekend guests at the house but since I was the host I was in control of the food :-)  I served a Whole30 compliant lunch (Nicoise salad) and dinner (roasted pork tenderloin with red skin potatoes, braised red cabbage and roasted broccoli).  I served desert but skipped it myself (except for a couple of mandarin oranges).  For breakfast we had scrambled eggs, compliant chicken sausage and bread/bagels, so it was easy enough for me to not have any carbs.  All in all, a success.  Day 15 today!



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« Reply #1145 on: February 15, 2016, 06:26:05 AM »
I survived a 3 day convention while out of town and living in a crowded hotel room, all the while staying on the Whole30 track! I think I need a ribbon for that...

Will this do?



Zizi, glad that handling your weekend guests went so well!

Day 16 for me--past the halfway point!  I made vegetable beef soup for work lunches and cashew milk, which contrary to reports does need to be strained.  I had some cashews left over so I made cashew cream.  SO.  GOOD.  I ate about three spoonsful before mixing it into some creamy Italian salad dressing I made on Saturday with what was left of the avocado mayo.  When I initially made it I put in too much vinegar, but the cashew cream smoothed it out considerably. 

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« Reply #1146 on: February 17, 2016, 04:16:55 AM »
Day 17 for me.  Just two weeks left of the program.  I have been craving sweets for the last couple of days - I think it's my PMS talking ;-)  Otherwise doing well.  Eating this way has become pretty automatic by now.  Not feeling any benefits of it yet but I'm putting it down to the cold (most of it gone but some congestion and cough still lingering). 



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« Reply #1147 on: February 17, 2016, 06:29:52 AM »
Zizi you're on fire! :D

Today is my day 29. It has been an interesting journey. My sad poops have come back, but I'm experimenting again to get them to go the fuck away. It's so hard to determine cause. Was it period-body-shenanigans? Was it dates acting as prunes? Was it not enough veg? All very possible. SCIENCE. We'll get there in the end. :)

I had a super uncomfortable conversation with one of my bosses-from-afar yesterday. I went to an award ceremony for my Actual Boss where she was honored by an organization for executive leadership. Cool! It also meant lots of free booze and deserts, of which I did not partake. Boss-from-afar basically heckled me? It was not comfortable. I had given my drink tickets to a colleague, and Boss-from-afar was teasing me if colleague was an alcoholic who begged them off me. "Did he have the shakes? Hahah!!"
Who the fuck thinks that's a funny joke topic? I'm 50% sure Boss-from-afar now thinks I'm pregnant too, because ~why else wouldn't a woman drink~

*grumble-grumble*

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« Reply #1148 on: February 17, 2016, 08:06:30 AM »
Glad to hear you are starting to feel better Zizi!

Way to Go Orvell! You are almost there! Have you thought about a plan for your re-intro? Way sucky about the boss-from-afar. What an ass hat. At least he isn't your immediate boss. We gave away our drink tickets for Hubby's staff Christmas party and no one really batted an eye, it is pretty clear that what we have been doing has been working for us.

 For me, it was huge, I'm definitely on the introverted side of the social scale and the idea of getting through a big social event and making that much small talk usually requires at least a little liquid courage. The fact I could do it without was really eye opening for me.

We've had a week of poultry thus far. Roasted a duck on Sunday, had paleo lemon chicken on Monday and yesterday threw the leftover chicken into a quick crockpot butter chicken sauce. Gearing up to leave  for a week and a half so trying to make sure Hubs has enough food options. He has said the hardest part of this process for him is he doesn't really know what to cook as all of his standbys are carb/grain based. He is learning though :)

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« Reply #1149 on: February 17, 2016, 08:53:58 AM »
Hello! I would like to join this little group :) I registered just for this thread, actually, even though I've been lurking for months.  I started Whole30 on Ash Wednesday (even though I am not religious).  I had mad headaches for 4 days, but now I'm on a roll.  My biggest beef about the whole thing is that food is so boring to me right now.  All the social interaction that goes with eating with friends is gone, and I've been short on time and interest this week so basically having the same foods as I had last week.  I would love a breakfast idea that isn't apple and almond butter or eggs, because I don't love eggs, but I've eaten them a few mornings.  Other mornings is the apple or leftovers...