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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1350 on: September 28, 2017, 08:39:56 PM »
Congrats Daisy. I'm so glad you made it!



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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1351 on: September 28, 2017, 09:00:54 PM »
Congrats Daisy. I'm so glad you made it!

Thanks for keeping us accountable Freedom17! It was a big help.

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1352 on: September 28, 2017, 09:11:05 PM »
These are two of my FIRE theme songs I will be singing all day tomorrow.

'm not sure if I can get away with doing the "what a feeling" dance on my way out, but I will try!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILWSp0m9G2U

Freedom!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yljbcRu3tiU

Too funny!

Some years ago I was working in a very poor 3rd world African country and one of the locals working for us was doing their best to get us tossed off our contract.  They lied, they back-stabbed, they even hired a truck to come to my house and take away the generator so I wouldn't have electric power much of the time.  (Stopped them on that one!)

Government wouldn't let us fire them once we realized what was going on because the gov didn't know who to trust, them or us.   The other local staff was scared to death of them because they were very vindictive and would be put in charge if we were out of the picture.

And then they got cocky and overplayed their hand...

And we were not only allowed to fire them, we were instructed to by the government.

I played this song the whole damn day.   I think I enjoyed it more with each play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js





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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1353 on: September 29, 2017, 06:32:34 AM »
I get other comments like "I wish I could do that", "wow not everyone can do that", "must be nice". I answer all with, "well I planned for it for a long time".

Congrats!!

I used the same reply. I also had a few comments of "you're so lucky" that annoyed me probably more than they should have. Saying "I wish I could do that" or whatever at least sort of acknowledges that I DID something and didn't just "luck" into my situation.
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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1354 on: September 29, 2017, 07:12:41 AM »
These are two of my FIRE theme songs I will be singing all day tomorrow.

'm not sure if I can get away with doing the "what a feeling" dance on my way out, but I will try!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILWSp0m9G2U

Freedom!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yljbcRu3tiU

Congrats, Daisy, and thanks for sharing your songs. 

"It's good to be free" and "Don't be afraid of your freedom!"

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1355 on: October 01, 2017, 12:14:32 PM »
It is done!

I felt pretty weird the last week, second guessing and all of that. But as I said before, I know the future work they had for me wasn't what I wanted, so I am at peace with my decision. I had a mix of excitement and dread all week. The last day was different, kind of melancholy and anti-climactic. I liken it to high school or college graduation. It was bittersweet, but time to move on to other things in my life. A successful chapter has now ended, but the book is only halfway through.

I found out someone who could have probably FIRE'd a while ago and loves to hike and bike and had been dreaming of moving to California to do all this was recently diagnosed with a fatal cancer and probably won't make it. He's in his 50s. A fellow coworker told me this story as my last conversation out the door, and it really cemented it all. This other guy will probably never get to enjoy the fruits of his labor because he kept hesitating with his decision.

I saw everyone around me so "busy" or at least they were playing along to look like they were busy. Even at my goodbye lunch, some could only stay a short while to go back to their lunchtime meetings...on a Friday! Oh well, I am so happy to not have to be in those situations. Although I would usually try to reschedule any meetings planned during lunchtime because I think that is ridiculous.

I've had so many people confess to me that they wish they could do what I was doing. Some seem to even have the money for it, but say they don't know what they would do with so much time on their hands. One lady said she was also waiting for a severance package and I told her that I had asked about that and there are none on the horizon and she should just make up her mind, but she was worried she would be bored. Oh well, I tried. She did ask for a lot of advice so I hope it works out for her.

Now off to CMC to celebrate!
« Last Edit: October 01, 2017, 12:17:57 PM by Daisy »

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1356 on: October 01, 2017, 12:32:11 PM »
It is done!

I felt pretty weird the last week, second guessing and all of that. But as I said before, I know the future work they had for me wasn't what I wanted, so I am at peace with my decision. I had a mix of excitement and dread all week. The last day was different, kind of melancholy and anti-climactic. I liken it to high school or college graduation. It was bittersweet, but time to move on to other things in my life. A successful chapter has now ended, but the book is only halfway through.

I found out someone who could have probably FIRE'd a while ago and loves to hike and bike and had been dreaming of moving to California to do all this was recently diagnosed with a fatal cancer and probably won't make it. He's in his 50s. A fellow coworker told me this story as my last conversation out the door, and it really cemented it all. This other guy will probably never get to enjoy the fruits of his labor because he kept hesitating with his decision.

I saw everyone around me so "busy" or at least they were playing along to look like they were busy. Even at my goodbye lunch, some could only stay a short while to go back to their lunchtime meetings...on a Friday! Oh well, I am so happy to not have to be in those situations. Although I would usually try to reschedule any meetings planned during lunchtime because I think that is ridiculous.

I've had so many people confess to me that they wish they could do what I was doing. Some seem to even have the money for it, but say they don't know what they would do with so much time on their hands. One lady said she was also waiting for a severance package and I told her that I had asked about that and there are none on the horizon and she should just make up her mind, but she was worried she would be bored. Oh well, I tried. She did ask for a lot of advice so I hope it works out for her.

Now off to CMC to celebrate!

Congratulations!! That's a huge step. It's interesting hearing about the range of emotions leading up to your exit from your job.

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1357 on: October 01, 2017, 05:41:10 PM »
It is done!


Now off to CMC to celebrate!

CMC...where I used to live that was the acronym for California Men's Colony, a state prison. You heading there to do some celebrating? ;)
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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1358 on: October 02, 2017, 04:29:51 AM »
Congrats Daisy. I'm so glad you made it!

Thanks for keeping us accountable Freedom17! It was a big help.

Yes, the support on this thread was a great help to me as well!

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1359 on: October 02, 2017, 12:22:05 PM »
My FIRE (aka Lay-Off) date is fast approaching.   I have always considered myself a pretty self motivated person, but for the last year+ I've been suffering from a lot of burn out, and it feels like my brain has been rotting for a while.  I'm excited about FIRE, and also a little nervous that I won't be able to shake this funk, and will find myself wasting this incredible new opportunity.  So this weekend I spent some time writing down things I want to prioritize in daily life with my new found free time, as well of lists of one-off things I can fall back on if I find myself feeling bored and unmotivated.  I was pleasantly surprised, and reassured, to find that I had 4 pages (typed) of ideas.  I realized that the first couple of months will be extremely busy while I complete some renovations on my primary residence and turn it into a rental, while simultaneously planning a move.  I'm hoping that the physical and scheduling demands of the first couple of months will set me up to find a new rhythm, and that when things finally settle down around the first of the year, I can begin feeling actually retired without the same brain-rot I'm feeling currently from sitting at a computer all day.

For anyone who's interested, here's a few of the items on my list that may have some general appeal to those looking to make the most out of FIRE. 

     Take down time/relaxation during the week, so that weekends can be spent doing fun things with the kids.
     Kid Activities: Play Dates, Hiking, Park, Pool, Volunteering, Cooking Together, Weekend Camping Trips, Art Projects, Local Activities
     Find local volunteering opportunities for myself
     Check out the local community college for continued education and/or elective type classes that look interesting
     Meal Plan & Bulk Grocery Shopping (ya'll may already be doing this, but it's one of the things my job has kept me from finding time for)
     Find and try new recipies
     Setup weekly Massage-Time with SO while kids are at school
     Local Day Trips to do on special occasions (Like Tuesday)
     Creative Projects like music, crafts & building
     Deferred Maintenance/Organization/Deep Cleaning on the house & yard
     Long term domestic and international travel aspirations
     Exercise Plan, including being generally more active in daily life, hiking (dug), gym or community classes if interested, youtube videos

As I mentioned, the specifics of each of these topics filled up the better part of 4 pages for me.  Do/did any of you come up with similar outlines before or after FIRE that you'd like to share?
     
     

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1360 on: October 03, 2017, 10:20:48 PM »

For anyone who's interested, here's a few of the items on my list that may have some general appeal to those looking to make the most out of FIRE. 

     Meal Plan & Bulk Grocery Shopping (ya'll may already be doing this, but it's one of the things my job has kept me from finding time for)
     Find and try new recipies
As I mentioned, the specifics of each of these topics filled up the better part of 4 pages for me.  Do/did any of you come up with similar outlines before or after FIRE that you'd like to share?
     
   

Lol,  I have spent time online looking for ideas how to freeze carrots.  I apparently have 25lbs ready to be put up for future.   I think I was a bit more excited about the time and opportunity to do this than I realized.

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1361 on: October 05, 2017, 07:34:25 AM »
Crazy few weeks here. I was activated by the ANG for Irma, went straight into a week of training for my day job (why not, made $800 in mileage and per diem, and got out of the office for five days), and now we're frantically trying to clean up for inbound family this weekend/next week, then a road trip for a wedding next weekend.

I was going to give notice last week but boss was on a weird schedule and decided not to come in Friday, and is on leave this week. I'm planning to throw my hat over the fence today by informing his appointed stand-in this week and following up by phone with him.

Last day is holding at December 15th. It's the middle of a pay period, and I have leave to burn, so my official last day could be the 23rd, or even later, but we'll be in Argentina from the 18th on. :O
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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1362 on: October 06, 2017, 03:05:19 PM »
Can't decide on how to resign?  Here's an idea... haha
https://twitter.com/_youhadonejob1/status/916292575736270848

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1363 on: October 06, 2017, 03:28:56 PM »
Brilliant!
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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1364 on: October 18, 2017, 11:45:58 AM »
I wasn't in the list, because my decisions are a bit too fleeting to have a commitment, but I did it - quit at around 120% my lean costs at the end of September - Iíll still probably do some consulting gigs but entirely on my terms now. It's been a busy few weeks since!
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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1365 on: October 18, 2017, 12:37:08 PM »
I did it - quit, around 120% lean FIRE at the end of September - Iíll still probably do some consulting gigs but entirely on my terms now.

Congrats!!!

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1366 on: October 18, 2017, 02:23:59 PM »
Here's a little report on a few observations from my "retired" life so far. I'm 8-1/2 month in so far.

Not only did I retire, so did my SO. And then we sold almost everything we owned and let our apartment lease go. Became nomadic and have been dividing our time between domestic/international travel and also hanging around near our family (Portland OR). Meaning, I'm not only in the first year of FIRE (a big adjustment) I'm also in the early stages of a complete life change (a huge adjustment). And did I mention that we're first-time grandparents this year too?

We plan on continuing this lifestyle for the next year or so and then will assess to see if it's a lifestyle we want to continue. I miss having a home base (psychologically) but don't miss having to take care of property/dwelling (financially). We haven't figured out a sweet spot yet.

One thing that is clear to us, and that is that we are spending too much time together. Part of that is because we're traveling around, part is because we are in small-ish rentals, and part is because we haven't been diligent enough about managing time/activities to avoid it. Way too much togetherness doesn't make for a happy romance (in my experience). We are changing this up as we go forward.

Another thing that was bothering me was that I felt too "floaty" around time and task management. Because many days don't have appointments or set activities, I was just kind of wandering through time (I have stoner friends who love this, but it just isn't for me). Part of that was a decompression period of course, and was necessary. But my natural inclination is to manage time and feel on top of it. So I now start each day with a planner and a calendar and can "see" the next weeks and months more clearly. This has made a big difference to my peace of mind.

I realize none of this is revolutionary or new on this forum, but it's all new to me!

Oh, and a third thing - I am soooooo glad I made the decision to step off the work treadmill. The other day I was on Facebook and saw some pictures of my former workplace. There were my co-workers (many of whom I loved) and my boss, and they were hosting a chamber of commerce meet-and-greet event. After shuddering and throwing up a little in my mouth, I scrolled on by so I didn't have to see it anymore. It really confirmed my decision that I needed to be done with that career.
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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1367 on: October 18, 2017, 03:55:24 PM »
I did it - quit, around 120% lean FIRE at the end of September - Iíll still probably do some consulting gigs but entirely on my terms now.

Congratulations!!

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1368 on: October 18, 2017, 03:59:54 PM »
It is done!

I felt pretty weird the last week, second guessing and all of that. But as I said before, I know the future work they had for me wasn't what I wanted, so I am at peace with my decision. I had a mix of excitement and dread all week. The last day was different, kind of melancholy and anti-climactic. I liken it to high school or college graduation. It was bittersweet, but time to move on to other things in my life. A successful chapter has now ended, but the book is only halfway through.

I found out someone who could have probably FIRE'd a while ago and loves to hike and bike and had been dreaming of moving to California to do all this was recently diagnosed with a fatal cancer and probably won't make it. He's in his 50s. A fellow coworker told me this story as my last conversation out the door, and it really cemented it all. This other guy will probably never get to enjoy the fruits of his labor because he kept hesitating with his decision.


Congratulations! I'm so sorry about your friend. It was similar stories from people I knew that motivated me to leave while I still could enjoy the time had left in life (and we never know how much we have left).

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1369 on: October 18, 2017, 04:13:42 PM »

One thing that is clear to us, and that is that we are spending too much time together. Part of that is because we're traveling around, part is because we are in small-ish rentals, and part is because we haven't been diligent enough about managing time/activities to avoid it. Way too much togetherness doesn't make for a happy romance (in my experience). We are changing this up as we go forward.

I was worried about this happening to us, but so far it has not been the case. However, we did not move and we still live in the same house. I spend several hours upstairs writing and he spends several hours writing downstairs so we have plenty of alone time. Also we have always had our own bedrooms, which also gives us some alone time. So it may be that we are better fixed to deal with lots of time in the same dwelling. It was agony when I was working long hours because not only did I not see my husband during the day, I didn't see him at night either because we were in our own rooms. Our relationship really suffered from that period. Now it all works out.

Another thing that was bothering me was that I felt too "floaty" around time and task management. Because many days don't have appointments or set activities, I was just kind of wandering through time (I have stoner friends who love this, but it just isn't for me). Part of that was a decompression period of course, and was necessary. But my natural inclination is to manage time and feel on top of it. So I now start each day with a planner and a calendar and can "see" the next weeks and months more clearly. This has made a big difference to my peace of mind.

This was a problem for me as well, alone with needing to schedule my own time since I was so used to reacting to other people's schedules. It took several interactions of scheduling techniques until I finally settled on a Bullet Journal (which I love!) and small notebooks that are always at hand to record notes.



Oh, and a third thing - I am soooooo glad I made the decision to step off the work treadmill. The other day I was on Facebook and saw some pictures of my former workplace. There were my co-workers (many of whom I loved) and my boss, and they were hosting a chamber of commerce meet-and-greet event. After shuddering and throwing up a little in my mouth, I scrolled on by so I didn't have to see it anymore. It really confirmed my decision that I needed to be done with that career.

Oh, yes! The same for me. I have stepped away from my co-workers for a while because I cannot deal with how they are being treated. However, the person who was given half my job left soon after saying that it was too much for anyone to do in normal hours. I feel a certain amount of pleasure at this. When I left, my director said, "Our impression is that you don't really do much here. Other people can absorb your work easily." (At the time I was working 80-100 hour weeks and still falling behind).  As I recall, I said something like, "OK, that's your problem to deal with then. Good luck." Apparently I am capable of a little bit of schaudenfreude.

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1370 on: October 21, 2017, 01:58:20 AM »
I'm getting close to my third month of retirement so figured now is a good time for a quick update.

Life has been great but super busy. Lots of travel, hiking, gym, time with the family and a little consulting on the side.

I've recently gotten back into sailing which has been fantastic. Here's a pic from last weekend.



This was a short hike to the government sailing center where they rent boats for $2.60 an hour. Perfect!





And finally the view that greets me every day from my apartment. What's not to love?



Hope you're all having as much fun as me!
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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1371 on: October 21, 2017, 09:41:34 AM »
$2.60/hr!! Sweet deal!!!

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1372 on: October 21, 2017, 10:44:12 AM »
$2.60/hr!! Sweet deal!!!

Yeah, that would be so cool to "have" a boat for so little money per use, and then just return it when done. IMHO that's just about the only way to own a boat...
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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1373 on: October 21, 2017, 10:51:35 AM »
I'm getting close to my third month of retirement so figured now is a good time for a quick update....

Hope you're all having as much fun as me!

Freedom17, your post made me smile. Great pics, and an appealing sense of freedom. I'm still in OMY limbo, having gone back to work after taking an unpaid personal leave this summer. I'm still not quite ready to quit my job -- and my health insurance -- so I probably will end up Class of 2018 instead. But I swear if anyone at work even looks at me funny, I'll kick that gig to the curb, so it could still happen this year.

I work part-time at a job I mostly enjoy, so I guess I'm basically in transition -- though I have been for years. I'm just finding it hard to make that final leap.

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1374 on: October 21, 2017, 10:05:27 PM »
Another gorgeous day!



For those still holding out come join us!



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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1375 on: October 22, 2017, 12:03:55 AM »
I gave notice. Two more weeks and I'm out! I'm celebrating with 70 of my closest friends at Camp Mustache Canada. (She says as she sits alone in the cafeteria at 2AM, eating Doritos. Alone.)

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1376 on: October 22, 2017, 12:59:20 AM »
Congrats MonkeyJenga!


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JoJo             (at 43)                    OMY
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UnleashHell      (at 49)                    OMY
RedmondStash                                OMY
Jim2001                                     OMY

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1377 on: October 22, 2017, 08:53:37 AM »
I gave notice. Two more weeks and I'm out! I'm celebrating with 70 of my closest friends at Camp Mustache Canada. (She says as she sits alone in the cafeteria at 2AM, eating Doritos. Alone.)

Hooray! So what's the official last day then (we have you listed at Nov 30th, but I don't think that's right anymore).
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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1378 on: October 22, 2017, 07:17:57 PM »
The completion rate among the group really is quite amazing to me - given all the surprises the world can and does throw at you, to see this much adherence to the plan is quite surprising. 10 more weeks to finish us off!

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1379 on: October 22, 2017, 08:28:22 PM »
I gave notice. Two more weeks and I'm out! I'm celebrating with 70 of my closest friends at Camp Mustache Canada. (She says as she sits alone in the cafeteria at 2AM, eating Doritos. Alone.)

Yay! Congratulations!

The completion rate among the group really is quite amazing to me - given all the surprises the world can and does throw at you, to see this much adherence to the plan is quite surprising. 10 more weeks to finish us off!

Is that really the best phrasing? 

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1380 on: October 22, 2017, 08:33:40 PM »
I gave notice. Two more weeks and I'm out! I'm celebrating with 70 of my closest friends at Camp Mustache Canada. (She says as she sits alone in the cafeteria at 2AM, eating Doritos. Alone.)

Yay! Congratulations!

The completion rate among the group really is quite amazing to me - given all the surprises the world can and does throw at you, to see this much adherence to the plan is quite surprising. 10 more weeks to finish us off!
Is that really the best phrasing?

yes, as it has similarities to porn flicks.  AKA happy endings :-)

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1381 on: October 22, 2017, 11:13:58 PM »
I came

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« Reply #1382 on: October 23, 2017, 08:30:49 AM »
The completion rate among the group really is quite amazing to me - given all the surprises the world can and does throw at you, to see this much adherence to the plan is quite surprising. 10 more weeks to finish us off!

I'm dyin' here but I'm still on track, just barely.
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« Reply #1383 on: October 23, 2017, 09:44:52 AM »
I gave notice. Two more weeks and I'm out! I'm celebrating with 70 of my closest friends at Camp Mustache Canada. (She says as she sits alone in the cafeteria at 2AM, eating Doritos. Alone.)

Yay! Congratulations!

The completion rate among the group really is quite amazing to me - given all the surprises the world can and does throw at you, to see this much adherence to the plan is quite surprising. 10 more weeks to finish us off!
Is that really the best phrasing?

yes, as it has similarities to porn flicks.  AKA happy endings :-)

LOL! I had thought it sounded more like bang! bang! you're dead.

The completion rate among the group really is quite amazing to me - given all the surprises the world can and does throw at you, to see this much adherence to the plan is quite surprising. 10 more weeks to finish us off!

I'm dyin' here but I'm still on track, just barely.

We are rooting for you Zephyr!

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« Reply #1384 on: October 23, 2017, 10:00:04 AM »
I gave notice. Two more weeks and I'm out! I'm celebrating with 70 of my closest friends at Camp Mustache Canada. (She says as she sits alone in the cafeteria at 2AM, eating Doritos. Alone.)

Yay! Congratulations!

The completion rate among the group really is quite amazing to me - given all the surprises the world can and does throw at you, to see this much adherence to the plan is quite surprising. 10 more weeks to finish us off!
Is that really the best phrasing?

yes, as it has similarities to porn flicks.  AKA happy endings :-)
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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1385 on: October 23, 2017, 02:43:59 PM »
Is anyone else sleeping a lot post-FIRE? I've stopped running around doing all the things so much and have been sleeping at least 10 solid hours each night lately. I'm enjoying it, but feeling a little guilty and nervous that I'm going to make it a habit and spend my FIRE asleep, wasting all the time I have. Is it just catching up on sleep? Decompression? Or am I a lazy lethargic fucker who will waste the next 10 years in bed?!

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« Reply #1386 on: October 23, 2017, 02:58:53 PM »
When i quit the first time in 2004 Cookie it took about 6 months for my body and mind to adjust .

i think it's entirely normal, you now own the time of your life and don't have to rent it out .

In my experience soon you'll wonder how you ever managed to fit work into your life . 

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« Reply #1387 on: October 23, 2017, 03:03:58 PM »
Is anyone else sleeping a lot post-FIRE? I've stopped running around doing all the things so much and have been sleeping at least 10 solid hours each night lately. I'm enjoying it, but feeling a little guilty and nervous that I'm going to make it a habit and spend my FIRE asleep, wasting all the time I have. Is it just catching up on sleep? Decompression? Or am I a lazy lethargic fucker who will waste the next 10 years in bed?!
I know I'm sure as fuck GONNA sleep a lot. I'm not sleeping for shit right now, with so much on my mind, and I'm building up a massive deficit. First day out of here I plan on making up for lost time.
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« Reply #1388 on: October 23, 2017, 03:06:28 PM »
Is anyone else sleeping a lot post-FIRE? I've stopped running around doing all the things so much and have been sleeping at least 10 solid hours each night lately. I'm enjoying it, but feeling a little guilty and nervous that I'm going to make it a habit and spend my FIRE asleep, wasting all the time I have. Is it just catching up on sleep? Decompression? Or am I a lazy lethargic fucker who will waste the next 10 years in bed?!

The first three months after leaving my job I slept non-stop. I slept at night and I napped in the afternoon. Eventually I stopped napping. It took a few more months before my body settled into a routine that seems to work for me. I now sleep about 6-7 hours a night and then nap in the afternoon if I need it (once or twice a week). I think I was just running a huge sleep debt in those first few months. That may be the same for you. And if not, enjoy sleeping! You earned it.

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« Reply #1389 on: October 23, 2017, 03:10:10 PM »
When i quit the first time in 2004 Cookie it took about 6 months for my body and mind to adjust .

i think it's entirely normal, you now own the time of your life and don't have to rent it out .

In my experience soon you'll wonder how you ever managed to fit work into your life .

Thanks for the response! I am hoping the extra sleep thing is temporary because as much as I am enjoying it, there are still so many hobbies to get to!

I already wonder how I used to fit work into life. There are so many things I still don't feel like I have time to do, but that's largely because I'm sleeping so much this week AND because I am spending a lot of time with my family, at nieces and nephews sports games, slumber parties, or just hanging out with them. Went to a concert with my mom this weekend, a walk with my brother and his gf yesterday evening, helped my other brothers gf move on Friday. Before I just wouldn't have had the time. I'm even discovering I am starting to get enough energy back to be interested in dating again! That's exciting.

I know I'm sure as fuck GONNA sleep a lot. I'm not sleeping for shit right now, with so much on my mind, and I'm building up a massive deficit. First day out of here I plan on making up for lost time.

The first three months after leaving my job I slept non-stop. I slept at night and I napped in the afternoon. Eventually I stopped napping. It took a few more months before my body settled into a routine that seems to work for me. I now sleep about 6-7 hours a night and then nap in the afternoon if I need it (once or twice a week). I think I was just running a huge sleep debt in those first few months. That may be the same for you. And if not, enjoy sleeping! You earned it.

Oh good, not just me! Metta I hope that's the case for me too. 6-7 hours plus a nap on occasion sounds ideal. :)

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« Reply #1390 on: October 23, 2017, 03:21:00 PM »

Oh good, not just me! Metta I hope that's the case for me too. 6-7 hours plus a nap on occasion sounds ideal. :)

I hope so too! Two months into FIRE I was using my awake time to look up "Symptom Excessive Sleeping", I was so worried about it. But it all settled down. It just took longer than I thought it should.

One thing I didn't mention is that I do quieter things the two hours before I sleep (reading, writing, yin yoga, etc.). My body doesn't seem to like being pushed hard in those last hours of my wakefulness and since my time is my own now, I allow for that. I exercise and do serious cleaning in the morning and early afternoons rather than at night. I schedule stressful things (being tech support for my mother, for example) for the afternoon.

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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1391 on: October 23, 2017, 04:14:36 PM »
Is anyone else sleeping a lot post-FIRE? I've stopped running around doing all the things so much and have been sleeping at least 10 solid hours each night lately. I'm enjoying it, but feeling a little guilty and nervous that I'm going to make it a habit and spend my FIRE asleep, wasting all the time I have. Is it just catching up on sleep? Decompression? Or am I a lazy lethargic fucker who will waste the next 10 years in bed?!

I logged 10 hours last night, but that only happens now every few weeks or less. Clearly you need those hours (for now).
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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1392 on: October 23, 2017, 04:15:11 PM »
Is anyone else sleeping a lot post-FIRE? I've stopped running around doing all the things so much and have been sleeping at least 10 solid hours each night lately. I'm enjoying it, but feeling a little guilty and nervous that I'm going to make it a habit and spend my FIRE asleep, wasting all the time I have. Is it just catching up on sleep? Decompression? Or am I a lazy lethargic fucker who will waste the next 10 years in bed?!

I've always slept 9 hours a night. Isn't that the normal healthy requirement?

One thing I will say, so far retirement has been exhausting! I think I've been doing way too much. I'm going to dial things back a notch once the current round of sailing courses wraps up.
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Re: Target FIRE: 2017
« Reply #1393 on: October 23, 2017, 09:38:24 PM »
Friday was my last day, guys!  And today was my first Monday post-FIRE.  It felt more like vacation than retirement because it was also my birthday and my whole family and I were in an Airbnb on staycation with my best friend from out of town.  I really can't wait for tomorrow!  Maybe it will start to sink in soon.

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« Reply #1394 on: October 23, 2017, 10:17:45 PM »
Friday was my last day, guys!  And today was my first Monday post-FIRE.  It felt more like vacation than retirement because it was also my birthday and my whole family and I were in an Airbnb on staycation with my best friend from out of town.  I really can't wait for tomorrow!  Maybe it will start to sink in soon.

Congrats Kay-Ell!



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« Reply #1395 on: October 24, 2017, 05:01:38 PM »
Congratulations MonkeyJenga and Kay-ell!!! Makes me feel good to read about people getting freed from their indentured servitude.

Iíve been sleeping a normal amount but have been watching way to much streaming tv and movies. I think that is my method of decompression. Iím finding it difficult to be consistently motivated to do productive things. Iím trying to get myself into a routine where everyday I do some cooking, some chores, play music, exercise a bit, meditate, and learn something new or work on a project. Iíve managed to cook consistently but that is about it. Some days I exercise and some days I donít. Same with the rest of the goals. I worry that Iím wasting my retirement on Netflix. Iím hoping Iíll be able to get it together and start making progress on some of these other retirement goals.

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« Reply #1396 on: October 25, 2017, 08:33:26 AM »
Iíve been sleeping a normal amount but have been watching way to much streaming tv and movies. I think that is my method of decompression. Iím finding it difficult to be consistently motivated to do productive things. Iím trying to get myself into a routine where everyday I do some cooking, some chores, play music, exercise a bit, meditate, and learn something new or work on a project. Iíve managed to cook consistently but that is about it. Some days I exercise and some days I donít. Same with the rest of the goals. I worry that Iím wasting my retirement on Netflix. Iím hoping Iíll be able to get it together and start making progress on some of these other retirement goals.

Thanks for this post, SF.  This is something I'm contemplating as my downshifting time approaches.  I know I need time to decompress, and that deep down I'm a driven person who will get involved with things that are good for me, my family, and my community.  I want to develop routines that include all the good things I never have time for while working full-time, and I want to start out "right" so that I can develop and maintain good habits that encourage health and happiness.  But I'm worried I'll just get lazy, lose motivation, and not accomplish things that are important to me.  That I might develop bad FIRE habits early and then not reach life goals. 

From what I've read from others, there is not much to worry about.  Decompression is a phase, and one that ends in a relatively short time given the span of a normal human life.  You just can't see how short it is when you are in it.

I'd be interested to hear thoughts from other recent grads on decompression and good habits/routines right out of the gate.

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« Reply #1397 on: October 25, 2017, 09:32:57 AM »
I’ve been sleeping a normal amount but have been watching way to much streaming tv and movies. I think that is my method of decompression. I’m finding it difficult to be consistently motivated to do productive things. I’m trying to get myself into a routine where everyday I do some cooking, some chores, play music, exercise a bit, meditate, and learn something new or work on a project. I’ve managed to cook consistently but that is about it. Some days I exercise and some days I don’t. Same with the rest of the goals. I worry that I’m wasting my retirement on Netflix. I’m hoping I’ll be able to get it together and start making progress on some of these other retirement goals.

Thanks for this post, SF.  This is something I'm contemplating as my downshifting time approaches.  I know I need time to decompress, and that deep down I'm a driven person who will get involved with things that are good for me, my family, and my community.  I want to develop routines that include all the good things I never have time for while working full-time, and I want to start out "right" so that I can develop and maintain good habits that encourage health and happiness.  But I'm worried I'll just get lazy, lose motivation, and not accomplish things that are important to me.  That I might develop bad FIRE habits early and then not reach life goals. 

From what I've read from others, there is not much to worry about.  Decompression is a phase, and one that ends in a relatively short time given the span of a normal human life.  You just can't see how short it is when you are in it.

I'd be interested to hear thoughts from other recent grads on decompression and good habits/routines right out of the gate.

If anything my experience has been the opposite. I've been so busy in retirement. I often joke that I need a vacation from retirement :)

Between parenting, sailing, travel, learning guitar, going to the gym daily and some consulting work I've taken up on the side its been flat out. I guess the good thing is I can always dial back, which I intend to. On the other hand I keep discovering new things I want to get involved with, for example I just wrapped up a sailing course and realized I can learn windsurfing in the same center which seems like a blast. However having spent 8 hours a day sailing for the last 6 days I'm physically exhausted. Now that I start to think about it I want to get back into hiking now that the weather is cooling down, and have always wanted to learn Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu as well.

Anyway, overall I would say that there is a huge world out there with all sorts of amazing things to do. I wouldn't worry about getting lazy, just make sure you stay active and engaged.
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« Reply #1398 on: October 25, 2017, 11:45:22 AM »
Is anyone else sleeping a lot post-FIRE? I've stopped running around doing all the things so much and have been sleeping at least 10 solid hours each night lately. I'm enjoying it, but feeling a little guilty and nervous that I'm going to make it a habit and spend my FIRE asleep, wasting all the time I have. Is it just catching up on sleep? Decompression? Or am I a lazy lethargic fucker who will waste the next 10 years in bed?!

I've always slept 9 hours a night. Isn't that the normal healthy requirement?

One thing I will say, so far retirement has been exhausting! I think I've been doing way too much. I'm going to dial things back a notch once the current round of sailing courses wraps up.

9 hours sounds fine, especially since you are so active while not sleeping!

I had said 10 hours minimum, but it's usually more. I slept 14 hours last night. A friend brought up a good point. Winter is approaching again and I'm far enough north that daylight hours are getting quite short. Luckily the weather has been quite warm and until last night it hadn't snowed yet(after last night there are about 5-6 inches of sopping wet inches of heavy snow), but the lack of daylight alone can make one sink a little deeper into hibernation mode.

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« Reply #1399 on: October 25, 2017, 11:56:40 AM »
Thanks for the congrats, y'all! Nov 2 is my last day.

At CMC, I raised this laziness worry in the post fire session. I'm going to travel for a few months before looking for a paid gig in politics. I worried that I would be too addicted to my afternoon naps to get back into a job. The group helped me realize my time off isn't going to be lazy, it's going to be full of all the things I want to get a job doing. Plus, I have the power to shape my job schedule to my needs.