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Re: Strength & Fitness 2017
« Reply #350 on: February 04, 2017, 03:21:37 PM »
My wife and I spend $240/month on our (private powerlifting) gym membership and I don't regret a single penny. Making myself fitter, stronger, and better looking, not to mention the associated health benefits, increase in happiness, and good friends made from a supportive community? Can't imagine a better bargain.

If you make use of what you're paying for, I see fitness as the one area where it's hard to overspend.
Oof! Kinda a dream! I'm sure that's a great gym - when I had classpass for $79/month, I really enjoyed access to high-end gyms. I am business startup phase right now and living entirely off my 12 hour a week W2 job (around $18,000 a year) so a high-end gym is off the table for me (especially with health care costs) but in the future, I'd like to have the kind of wealth where high-end fitness makes sense. At the moment, I'm strongly contemplating going back to fitness coaching as a side hustle to get access to the nice fitness studio (Barre3).

I think it's easy to have fitness as another luxury as there's a point at which you are just buying a higher quality version of something that delivers similar results (for example at $40,000 car instead of a $30,000 car because of nicer seats + infotainment system), but that doesn't mean it's a bad choice if it aligns with your values. I believe there are no bad choices in budgeting if they are made consciously, in line with your values, without consumer debt.
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« Reply #351 on: February 04, 2017, 04:17:47 PM »
My husband came into the marriage with an exercise bike and weight bench, plus we both had bicycles.

I don't really like the cycle in place thing or the bench. I bought some dumbbells, a chinup bar, a couple kettlebells and one of those big balance balls for indoor stuff and they are all ideal for me.

I tried a crossfit gym membership - that was horrible - expensive, and while I understand coaches are trying to push their clients, it was counterproductive for me. The "coaching" just pushed me past my natural limits and led to short term injuries that temporarily incapacitated me. I had stuff like muscle fatigue to the point where I was home alone one night and had to strategize how to get up off the floor because I wasn't able to push up with legs or arms and had even pulled muscles in the palms of my hands. I was rolling around the floor in a ball trying to figure it out, thinking I might be trapped on the floor til my husband came home. So stupid. I quit the gym the next day.

My $$ weakness when it comes to fitness has turned out to be blinging out my bike and self with gear. Homemade, when possible, but I love good headlights, tail lights, reflectors, reflective jackets, pogies, fleece tights, helmet covers, ugh.

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Re: Strength & Fitness 2017
« Reply #352 on: February 04, 2017, 04:56:59 PM »

No worries Lagom, I 100% agree with all that you're saying and I didn't mean to imply anything wrong with gym membership if it came off that way (of course as you note a gym membership that goes unused is a waste, but certainly not the case here).  I've also considered it mainly for form coaching and if/when expand to serious barbell lifts will likely do some form of formal coaching.

I think it's great that there's lots of different goals on here with overall point of getting stronger/healthier so can learn new options.

I'm mainly "home gym curious" and may expand--in particular next thing I want is a dip station (which I may make).

No worries, I didn't take it that way :)

Just wanted to offer my own thoughts on spending $ for fitness. I actually have thought quite a bit about how I would construct a home gym. In my opinion, while expensive it's still often worth (eventually) buying a barbell set, and something of relatively high quality, almost regardless of your fitness goals. I would also probably slowly accumulate dumbells and maybe a kettle bell or two. Bands are probably worth the investment as well, imo. My thought if I ever do this is to invest in a few critical things upfront and then give myself a budget (say $20-50/month) to slowly add to the gym until it had everything I ideally would want. The problem for me is that my minimum upfront costs would be pretty huge.

There's also a lot you can DIY, as you've indicated. I've even seen homemade squat racks, though the idea makes me nervous personally. A sled is another fantastic implement to help with both strength and conditioning that I would personally recommend for most fitness goals.

Oof! Kinda a dream! I'm sure that's a great gym - when I had classpass for $79/month, I really enjoyed access to high-end gyms. I am business startup phase right now and living entirely off my 12 hour a week W2 job (around $18,000 a year) so a high-end gym is off the table for me (especially with health care costs) but in the future, I'd like to have the kind of wealth where high-end fitness makes sense. At the moment, I'm strongly contemplating going back to fitness coaching as a side hustle to get access to the nice fitness studio (Barre3).

I think it's easy to have fitness as another luxury as there's a point at which you are just buying a higher quality version of something that delivers similar results (for example at $40,000 car instead of a $30,000 car because of nicer seats + infotainment system), but that doesn't mean it's a bad choice if it aligns with your values. I believe there are no bad choices in budgeting if they are made consciously, in line with your values, without consumer debt.

+1 to the bolded.

Our gym is definitely a luxury expense! It is also pretty much our only one. We never go out to eat, share a car (and both work full time), etc. because spending more on those things would not bring enough happiness to be worth it. I do agree with your premise on overspending creep. It's why I don't pay for one on one coaching, for example. But it would be almost impossible to replicate everything else I get, given my goals, without spending thousands on a home setup. We are definitely lucky to be able to afford this gym option :)
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Re: Strength & Fitness 2017
« Reply #353 on: February 04, 2017, 05:01:08 PM »
My husband came into the marriage with an exercise bike and weight bench, plus we both had bicycles.

I don't really like the cycle in place thing or the bench. I bought some dumbbells, a chinup bar, a couple kettlebells and one of those big balance balls for indoor stuff and they are all ideal for me.

I tried a crossfit gym membership - that was horrible - expensive, and while I understand coaches are trying to push their clients, it was counterproductive for me. The "coaching" just pushed me past my natural limits and led to short term injuries that temporarily incapacitated me. I had stuff like muscle fatigue to the point where I was home alone one night and had to strategize how to get up off the floor because I wasn't able to push up with legs or arms and had even pulled muscles in the palms of my hands. I was rolling around the floor in a ball trying to figure it out, thinking I might be trapped on the floor til my husband came home. So stupid. I quit the gym the next day.

My $$ weakness when it comes to fitness has turned out to be blinging out my bike and self with gear. Homemade, when possible, but I love good headlights, tail lights, reflectors, reflective jackets, pogies, fleece tights, helmet covers, ugh.

I definitely suggest anyone considering crossfit research it extensively and make sure the coaches at their gym are well trained in how to modify exercises and programming based on the needs of clients. I would also hesitate to join any crossfit gym that doesn't harp on form or that uses many, if any AMRAP types of workouts, especially with technical or heavy lifts (e.g. cleans or deadlifts).

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Re: Strength & Fitness 2017
« Reply #354 on: February 04, 2017, 08:07:57 PM »
I wouldn't call barbells and weights expensive -- usually 50-75 cents/lb. on Craigslist. When we quite the gym(s) a year and a half ago, we were paying 2x$40/month for Gold's, and 1x$50/month for a power/Olympic box. I bought a cheapish bench/lat pulldown/situp combo with a bar and some weights, some more weights and another bar at 50 cents/lb. from a metal working shop, and a treadmill for $50 from a neighbor who was moving. Total investment, about $350. My wife really wanted a spin bike, and paid $400 for one, which I though was overpriced, but agreed to the purchase. The bike is setup in my home office, and I use it 3-4 times/week, so it has been worth it. All that equipment was paid for within six months of no gym fees, and so we have saved over $1500, and have much easier access to the equipment.

Update on my fitness efforts: I worked out for 12 straight days, and on the 13th day, injured myself during my workout. It wasn't an ordinary injury, but a flying log from a misplaced maul strike whacking my knee. My planned lower body workout was cancelled. This adds an additional wrinkle to the upcoming challenge of diet and exercise due to a business trip. I had planned to take advantage of whatever better food options I can, and to do double workouts today and tomorrow, followed by a workout/day Tuesday-Friday. I expected to gain a temporary pound or two because of increased food and drink consumption, but to mitigate the increase by continuing to work out.

My modified plan is to do upper body and abs only, with some swimming as long as I can stand it. If my knee feels better toward the end of the week, I'll resume lower body and bike/treadmill work. Any other ideas for non-impact cardio? A heavy bag maybe? Pushups to exhaustion?

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« Reply #355 on: February 04, 2017, 10:44:23 PM »
I wouldn't call barbells and weights expensive -- usually 50-75 cents/lb. on Craigslist. When we quite the gym(s) a year and a half ago, we were paying 2x$40/month for Gold's, and 1x$50/month for a power/Olympic box. I bought a cheapish bench/lat pulldown/situp combo with a bar and some weights, some more weights and another bar at 50 cents/lb. from a metal working shop, and a treadmill for $50 from a neighbor who was moving. Total investment, about $350. My wife really wanted a spin bike, and paid $400 for one, which I though was overpriced, but agreed to the purchase. The bike is setup in my home office, and I use it 3-4 times/week, so it has been worth it. All that equipment was paid for within six months of no gym fees, and so we have saved over $1500, and have much easier access to the equipment.

Update on my fitness efforts: I worked out for 12 straight days, and on the 13th day, injured myself during my workout. It wasn't an ordinary injury, but a flying log from a misplaced maul strike whacking my knee. My planned lower body workout was cancelled. This adds an additional wrinkle to the upcoming challenge of diet and exercise due to a business trip. I had planned to take advantage of whatever better food options I can, and to do double workouts today and tomorrow, followed by a workout/day Tuesday-Friday. I expected to gain a temporary pound or two because of increased food and drink consumption, but to mitigate the increase by continuing to work out.

My modified plan is to do upper body and abs only, with some swimming as long as I can stand it. If my knee feels better toward the end of the week, I'll resume lower body and bike/treadmill work. Any other ideas for non-impact cardio? A heavy bag maybe? Pushups to exhaustion?

Agree that a reasonable barbell and weights setup can be a relatively affordable option for many, just not powerlifters :)

Knee injuries suck. Heavy bag isn't a bad idea imo. Based on what I am surmising are your goals, once you feel up to it I would also consider heavy sled pulls as an excellent option. Even with a high volume strength program, you can mix them in liberally as they have little to no impact on recovery while providing excellent conditioning benefits. Not that taxing on the knees either as long as they aren't too messed up.
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Re: Strength & Fitness 2017
« Reply #356 on: February 05, 2017, 03:57:14 PM »
I'd better get in on the S&F thread this year before it's too late. Since I missed January let's just say I'm 91.67% committed to these goals for 2017:

1. Sub-21:00 5k. My race best is just over 24 minutes back in 2014. I haven't done any running since September of last year but I know I was doing 5k in the 22-23 minute range while training for Hood to Coast.

2. 20 pull ups. It seems like a good round number.

3. 2x bodyweight deadlift. Not a huge number but I'd never picked up a barbell until a couple of years ago (and immediately fell in love) and this is a nice signpost on the road to my ultimate goal of 3x BW. The deadlift is my favorite.

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« Reply #357 on: February 05, 2017, 04:12:59 PM »
I had to search it out, but I found the picture I posted of our home gym. We've added another set of bumper plates since then, and swapped the small speakers for a bigger speaker/amp set up. Also added a white board on the back wall. I'll re-take a photo at some point, but not right now =) Hmm, we also added a rack with a speed rope and some elastic bands on the back wall... okay, I really do need to take a new photo sometime!

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« Reply #358 on: February 05, 2017, 05:03:01 PM »
Love that giant board that says "YES!" Braken_Joy.  Pretty cool motivation.

January Update:

Goals:
--9 strength training days, minimum target was at least 10 :(
--Sleep rules followed ~87% of time, goal was 95%+
--Strength data going up:  doing chin ups unassisted now and horizontal BW rows which are both improvements.  Also was increasing handstand against the wall planks.
--No injuries :)

Wins:
--Didn't let tradeshow trip completely throw me off training.  Trained less than desired, but could have been a lot worse.  Man I hate tradeshows...I can walk all day long, but standing still all day kills me. 
--Hung really dark shades to help with sleep!
--Started meditating, not a lot, but it's a start.

Challenges:
--Sleep...missed multiple days even when I did follow the good sleep rules mentioned earlier in the tread.  Unfortunately this made me miss more excersize days that I wanted to.  To start helping combat this I split my workout in two this weekend and approximately did front/back split sat & sun do do something active on both days (also because I couldn't complete a full workout on either day).  Any workout is better than no workout!  Think I'm finally getting back on track post trade-show.

Next steps:
--Start up normal workouts again next week--I'm actually taking Tuesday off specifically to not stare at computer too much and have energy to work out.
--Continue increasing strength and continue reading and meditation to calm + sleep.
--Should have a big update in the next couple of months work wise if all goes as planned that I'll have to figure out a few things fitness-wise, but excited to do so.


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Re: Strength & Fitness 2017
« Reply #359 on: February 05, 2017, 05:06:11 PM »
Love that giant board that says "YES!" Braken_Joy.  Pretty cool motivation.

Glad my photo shop skills are on point ;) Sadly, it doesn't actually exist. Instead it's a big utility sign of what to do in a power outage, and thus reveals where I live. I want to get an actual "YES" though, that would be way cooler.
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« Reply #360 on: February 06, 2017, 08:01:31 AM »
I had to search it out, but I found the picture I posted of our home gym. We've added another set of bumper plates since then, and swapped the small speakers for a bigger speaker/amp set up. Also added a white board on the back wall. I'll re-take a photo at some point, but not right now =) Hmm, we also added a rack with a speed rope and some elastic bands on the back wall... okay, I really do need to take a new photo sometime!

http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/journals/roughest-mustachian-on-the-nicest-block/msg1216817/#msg1216817
Also! Forgot to post my home gym as previously requested.



That is one badass squat rack! I wonder how much weight it could hold? Any ideas?

I guess it just serves people of a very specific rack height. Do you also have a rack for benching? Or is there another cut-out in the wood to rack the barbell at your bench rack height?

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« Reply #361 on: February 06, 2017, 08:12:30 AM »
I had to search it out, but I found the picture I posted of our home gym. We've added another set of bumper plates since then, and swapped the small speakers for a bigger speaker/amp set up. Also added a white board on the back wall. I'll re-take a photo at some point, but not right now =) Hmm, we also added a rack with a speed rope and some elastic bands on the back wall... okay, I really do need to take a new photo sometime!

http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/journals/roughest-mustachian-on-the-nicest-block/msg1216817/#msg1216817
Also! Forgot to post my home gym as previously requested.



Nice rack! I keep looking for bumper plates at a reasonable cost, but nothing yet. I'm hoping one of the 39 crossfit boxes in a 10 minute radius from me will go out of business so I can grab some for cheap.

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« Reply #362 on: February 06, 2017, 08:35:36 AM »
I had to search it out, but I found the picture I posted of our home gym. We've added another set of bumper plates since then, and swapped the small speakers for a bigger speaker/amp set up. Also added a white board on the back wall. I'll re-take a photo at some point, but not right now =) Hmm, we also added a rack with a speed rope and some elastic bands on the back wall... okay, I really do need to take a new photo sometime!

http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/journals/roughest-mustachian-on-the-nicest-block/msg1216817/#msg1216817
Also! Forgot to post my home gym as previously requested.



That is one badass squat rack! I wonder how much weight it could hold? Any ideas?

I guess it just serves people of a very specific rack height. Do you also have a rack for benching? Or is there another cut-out in the wood to rack the barbell at your bench rack height?

Why thank you. DH has put up 405lbs on the rack, pretty often. (that was as high as we could go with the first set of weights, lol. He does 405 for yoke walks). We built it Fall of 2015. Height is pretty specific, but luckily DH and I are about the same height (he's actually 2" shorter, but I just duck under a bit further for my squats). Our 6'2" friend who would workout with us when we lived in Portland looked quite silly trying to use it. We do *not* have a seperate cutout for bench height. Although my BIL bought us a bench for Xmas (gift to himself lol, he uses the gym sometimes), so we're going to build either an add on or a separate rack set for that. Just haven't yet. So far, we just do overhead work and skip the bench, lol.

I had to search it out, but I found the picture I posted of our home gym. We've added another set of bumper plates since then, and swapped the small speakers for a bigger speaker/amp set up. Also added a white board on the back wall. I'll re-take a photo at some point, but not right now =) Hmm, we also added a rack with a speed rope and some elastic bands on the back wall... okay, I really do need to take a new photo sometime!

http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/journals/roughest-mustachian-on-the-nicest-block/msg1216817/#msg1216817
Also! Forgot to post my home gym as previously requested.



Nice rack! I keep looking for bumper plates at a reasonable cost, but nothing yet. I'm hoping one of the 39 crossfit boxes in a 10 minute radius from me will go out of business so I can grab some for cheap.

Thank you! Lol. Our first bumper plate set we got through Wright. The second was through Again Faster. Wright we got during the crossfit games sale in 2015, when shipping was free. Again Faster we got on Black Friday this year, again free shipping. They never go on a big sale, but if you buy the sets they work out to the best price, and the biggest thing is getting the free shipping deals- otherwise it's like $75-150 to ship it to Oregon from Ohio or wherever they all are, haha.

We were hoping for a crossfit box closeout. We had originally tried to see if we could order through them at warehouse pricing, since I have a friend who she and her husband own a box, but they were prepping for regionals and she was on nights, so that fell through and we got tired of waiting.
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« Reply #363 on: February 06, 2017, 09:16:32 AM »
We were hoping for a crossfit box closeout. We had originally tried to see if we could order through them at warehouse pricing, since I have a friend who she and her husband own a box, but they were prepping for regionals and she was on nights, so that fell through and we got tired of waiting.

I knew there was something relevant here. Is this the kind of box you are referring to? http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/04/27/nicer-legs-and-some-new-carpentry-skills-for-only-15-bucks/
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« Reply #364 on: February 06, 2017, 09:21:08 AM »
We were hoping for a crossfit box closeout. We had originally tried to see if we could order through them at warehouse pricing, since I have a friend who she and her husband own a box, but they were prepping for regionals and she was on nights, so that fell through and we got tired of waiting.

I knew there was something relevant here. Is this the kind of box you are referring to? http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/04/27/nicer-legs-and-some-new-carpentry-skills-for-only-15-bucks/

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« Reply #365 on: February 06, 2017, 09:39:26 AM »
We were hoping for a crossfit box closeout. We had originally tried to see if we could order through them at warehouse pricing, since I have a friend who she and her husband own a box, but they were prepping for regionals and she was on nights, so that fell through and we got tired of waiting.

I knew there was something relevant here. Is this the kind of box you are referring to? http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/04/27/nicer-legs-and-some-new-carpentry-skills-for-only-15-bucks/

Haha, good link but no. Like Cromacster said, the 'box' is the gym itself. Sometimes when gyms close they'll post everything online for way cut down prices, and that can be a great time to grab equipment.

We may build a jump box at some point, but it's not on the summer 'to build' list AFAIK.
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« Reply #366 on: February 06, 2017, 09:59:52 AM »
We were hoping for a crossfit box closeout. We had originally tried to see if we could order through them at warehouse pricing, since I have a friend who she and her husband own a box, but they were prepping for regionals and she was on nights, so that fell through and we got tired of waiting.

I knew there was something relevant here. Is this the kind of box you are referring to? http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/04/27/nicer-legs-and-some-new-carpentry-skills-for-only-15-bucks/

Haha, good link but no. Like Cromacster said, the 'box' is the gym itself. Sometimes when gyms close they'll post everything online for way cut down prices, and that can be a great time to grab equipment.

We may build a jump box at some point, but it's not on the summer 'to build' list AFAIK.

Sweet. I just learned something. Previously, I knew that you are supposed to talk about crossfit, I knew that WOD means Workout Of the Day. Now I know what gyms are called.
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« Reply #367 on: February 06, 2017, 10:28:08 AM »
We were hoping for a crossfit box closeout. We had originally tried to see if we could order through them at warehouse pricing, since I have a friend who she and her husband own a box, but they were prepping for regionals and she was on nights, so that fell through and we got tired of waiting.

I knew there was something relevant here. Is this the kind of box you are referring to? http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/04/27/nicer-legs-and-some-new-carpentry-skills-for-only-15-bucks/

Haha, good link but no. Like Cromacster said, the 'box' is the gym itself. Sometimes when gyms close they'll post everything online for way cut down prices, and that can be a great time to grab equipment.

We may build a jump box at some point, but it's not on the summer 'to build' list AFAIK.

Sweet. I just learned something. Previously, I knew that you are supposed to talk about crossfit, I knew that WOD means Workout Of the Day. Now I know what gyms are called.

If you actually do want to learn more/get a feel for the competitions, there's a documentary on netflix called 'fittest on earth' that I enjoyed. If nothing else, it really pumps you up for a workout. =P
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« Reply #368 on: February 06, 2017, 10:30:51 AM »
We were hoping for a crossfit box closeout. We had originally tried to see if we could order through them at warehouse pricing, since I have a friend who she and her husband own a box, but they were prepping for regionals and she was on nights, so that fell through and we got tired of waiting.

I knew there was something relevant here. Is this the kind of box you are referring to? http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/04/27/nicer-legs-and-some-new-carpentry-skills-for-only-15-bucks/

Haha, good link but no. Like Cromacster said, the 'box' is the gym itself. Sometimes when gyms close they'll post everything online for way cut down prices, and that can be a great time to grab equipment.

We may build a jump box at some point, but it's not on the summer 'to build' list AFAIK.

Sweet. I just learned something. Previously, I knew that you are supposed to talk about crossfit, I knew that WOD means Workout Of the Day. Now I know what gyms are called.

If you actually do want to learn more/get a feel for the competitions, there's a documentary on netflix called 'fittest on earth' that I enjoyed. If nothing else, it really pumps you up for a workout. =P

That's what ANW does for me. Or Battles of the Bars, or any Al Kavadlo montage (not the ask Al's...his hey hey hey gets annoying).
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« Reply #369 on: February 06, 2017, 11:09:55 AM »
I had to search it out, but I found the picture I posted of our home gym. We've added another set of bumper plates since then, and swapped the small speakers for a bigger speaker/amp set up. Also added a white board on the back wall. I'll re-take a photo at some point, but not right now =) Hmm, we also added a rack with a speed rope and some elastic bands on the back wall... okay, I really do need to take a new photo sometime!

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Nice rack! I keep looking for bumper plates at a reasonable cost, but nothing yet. I'm hoping one of the 39 crossfit boxes in a 10 minute radius from me will go out of business so I can grab some for cheap.

Yeah that looks great! How stable do you find it? Do you have to be gentle about walking in 400lbs, or does it put up with a bit of horizontal force?
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« Reply #370 on: February 06, 2017, 11:25:12 AM »
Haven't really been keeping track, but have been getting after it! Checked out the boulders near Prescott with my lady the other day.



Had a nice long hike in Sycamore Canyon

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« Reply #371 on: February 06, 2017, 11:47:15 AM »
I had to search it out, but I found the picture I posted of our home gym. We've added another set of bumper plates since then, and swapped the small speakers for a bigger speaker/amp set up. Also added a white board on the back wall. I'll re-take a photo at some point, but not right now =) Hmm, we also added a rack with a speed rope and some elastic bands on the back wall... okay, I really do need to take a new photo sometime!

http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/journals/roughest-mustachian-on-the-nicest-block/msg1216817/#msg1216817
Also! Forgot to post my home gym as previously requested.



Nice rack! I keep looking for bumper plates at a reasonable cost, but nothing yet. I'm hoping one of the 39 crossfit boxes in a 10 minute radius from me will go out of business so I can grab some for cheap.

Yeah that looks great! How stable do you find it? Do you have to be gentle about walking in 400lbs, or does it put but with a bit of horizontal force?

It definitely tolerates a surprising amount of horizontal force.
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« Reply #372 on: February 06, 2017, 12:36:13 PM »
So due to a few reasons (venting and focusing among other things), I hung up a punching bag, and decided to use it as a warm up.
Boxing isn't a thing I'm really interested in, at least not in and of itself, but since I have the stuff, I might as well try it out.
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So the playlist I used is this one (this is subject to change, because I don't want to iterate versions of the list on youtube).

Here is v1 song list (not links)

  • DVBBS & Dropgun - Pyramids (ft. Sanjin)
  • Armin van Buuren - Ping Pong
  • Deorro - Bailar
  • R3hab vs Skytech & Fafaq - Tiger
  • R3HAB & KSHMR - Karate
  • Shakira - Dare (La La La)

So I messed up the first song. It's good, but I really wanted the build up from Dierro's Five Hours...I just picked the wrong mp3. So I listened to the first minute while I got set up, and then started punching lightly, and speeding up a bit. I'm glad I remembered how to wrap my hands, because the supporting muscles in my wrist aren't strong enough to handle the shock of repeated hits like that. I've never been a boxer, but I used to play around on a bag. I finally got the jabs and crosses up to beat about 1:00 from the end of the first song. Ping Pong started, and I was able to stay in a stance, switching to make sure I'm being even. Holy crap! At this point, I was beginning to sweat, and feel the muscles in my back understanding that they were working out. Heart rate was up, and I was really embracing the punching with the beat idea. And then the next song came on. Bailar is a fun song, but it was really hard to maintain my stance. My stance shifted to some weird combination of salsa fighting. And then tiger came on, and I made it about 90 seconds in. At that point, since I was using this as a warm up, I stopped, and did my regular Convict Conditioning workout. Fun stuff, but more to learn. I do think that the bag is going to be a good daily thing, or something that is more high intensity cardio that allows me to clear my mind. I'm glad I set it up. It was a good warm up.
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« Reply #373 on: February 06, 2017, 06:43:38 PM »
Managed a 2 mile run today after work.  My ankle is really taking its time healing, but is getting better steadily. I was on my feet several hours Saturday and walked about 10 miles over the weekend. I did feel it getting fatigued towards the end of the day, but it recovered completely by the next day.  It was doing some funny popping on the run today, but felt pretty good. Will probably try to run again on Friday.  The two mile run seemed about right, I just need to keep at it.  I tend to talk myself out of it because 2 miles isn't "worth it," but it is.

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« Reply #374 on: February 07, 2017, 07:02:10 AM »
Managed a 2 mile run today after work.  My ankle is really taking its time healing, but is getting better steadily. I was on my feet several hours Saturday and walked about 10 miles over the weekend. I did feel it getting fatigued towards the end of the day, but it recovered completely by the next day.  It was doing some funny popping on the run today, but felt pretty good. Will probably try to run again on Friday.  The two mile run seemed about right, I just need to keep at it.  I tend to talk myself out of it because 2 miles isn't "worth it," but it is.

What happened to your ankle?

On Saturday my ankle spontaneously got really swollen and sore after some regular walking (not more than 20 minutes). It was like it got sprained. But I didn't roll it or anything. It was really weird. I used to sprain this ankle as a child fairly often. It isn't sore anymore but still swollen.


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« Reply #375 on: February 07, 2017, 11:21:07 AM »
Started PT for my right shoulder today. My family Dr thinks I have tendinosis, but the DPT hasn't seen my MRI yet and I trust his expertise in this area more, so we'll see. I just know the shoulder's been hurting on and off for years. Currently I can't do most pushing movements, so full pushups are out. It also hurts when I try to run. Something about the swinging motion is super painful after 5-10 minutes. I want to get this addressed before I do something really dumb like tear my rotator cuff.           

Today the PT did a range of motion evaluation, dug into some tight spots and had me stretch. I have a list of stretches to do 2x per day, plus he wants me to ice at least once per day. They want to see me 3x per week for 2 weeks, then maybe 2x per week for another 2 weeks. Each visit is costing me $50, so if I need all 10, it will be $500, plus the $500 I've already spent getting the MRI and diagnosis. Bleh.

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« Reply #376 on: February 07, 2017, 06:32:22 PM »
A bit late but here's my overall and very simple fitness and health goals for 2017:

- Increase my flexibility, endurance and muscle strength to do the follow yoga move: press headstand and the splits.

I usually train 3x a week but with very little improvment months after months. I've always wanted to do the splits but couldn't see real results even with trying everyday. I bought a Cody bundle (pure flexibility) and boy I was training wrong ! Hoping to see some progress as I'm now flexing all of my body instead of focusing on only a few parts.

 I'm also doing PIIT28 1.0, it's actually the only fitness program I didn't got bored off for now. I did it once in dec 2016 but I didn't followed the schedule as I was too sore/tired. Back to the normal schedule now ! So my goal right now is to train 6x/week with PIIT28 and substitute with weight training if I want to spice things a bit. Then do Pure Flexibility 5x/week as a cooldown.

frugalwitch, I've got you add to the participant tracking post. There are also some links about just the splits in the resource post (although it may be the 2016 legacy resources, which is one comment down).

Welcome to the gauntlet.

Did people actually get into the front splits with the link from the resource post? I took a look, and I do virtually ALL of those stretch exercises daily at yoga (which I've been doing consistently for almost a month now). I feel like I'm very slowly getting closer to front splits, but it seems crazy to say you could get there in 30 days by just doing a few of those stretches a day. I'd say maybe I could get them in six months? Perhaps progress on that front isn't linear, though.

My knees have been hurting a bit, and I came to the realization that while practicing front splits and I'm trying to challenge myself to go lower, I'm hyperextending my knee instead of making my hamstring muscle do the stretch, so I've been more aware of that and trying to keep a tension/bend in my front knee. Same with when I stand in a wide straddle and fold forward; I'm getting my gains toward the floor at the expense of my knees. Whoops! Now that I realize I'm doing it hopefully I can knock it off and let my sore ligaments heal.

Sorry I didn't reply to this earlier. I have to hit up Zikoris, who hasn't popped in here yet, because I think that she is the one who pointed at that. I could be wrong, and just getting her mixed up with someone else due to her benchmark photo. I'll harass her to get in here, but I know she's been pretty busy. Regardless, she is the one who comes to mind when it comes to questions about splits.
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« Reply #377 on: February 07, 2017, 06:39:20 PM »
Started PT for my right shoulder today. My family Dr thinks I have tendinosis, but the DPT hasn't seen my MRI yet and I trust his expertise in this area more, so we'll see. I just know the shoulder's been hurting on and off for years. Currently I can't do most pushing movements, so full pushups are out. It also hurts when I try to run. Something about the swinging motion is super painful after 5-10 minutes. I want to get this addressed before I do something really dumb like tear my rotator cuff.           

Today the PT did a range of motion evaluation, dug into some tight spots and had me stretch. I have a list of stretches to do 2x per day, plus he wants me to ice at least once per day. They want to see me 3x per week for 2 weeks, then maybe 2x per week for another 2 weeks. Each visit is costing me $50, so if I need all 10, it will be $500, plus the $500 I've already spent getting the MRI and diagnosis. Bleh.

Hope you feel better soon. I have a nagging shoulder too and have been putting off getting seen for it but it might be time.

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« Reply #378 on: February 08, 2017, 01:04:34 PM »
Started PT for my right shoulder today. My family Dr thinks I have tendinosis, but the DPT hasn't seen my MRI yet and I trust his expertise in this area more, so we'll see. I just know the shoulder's been hurting on and off for years. Currently I can't do most pushing movements, so full pushups are out. It also hurts when I try to run. Something about the swinging motion is super painful after 5-10 minutes. I want to get this addressed before I do something really dumb like tear my rotator cuff.           

Today the PT did a range of motion evaluation, dug into some tight spots and had me stretch. I have a list of stretches to do 2x per day, plus he wants me to ice at least once per day. They want to see me 3x per week for 2 weeks, then maybe 2x per week for another 2 weeks. Each visit is costing me $50, so if I need all 10, it will be $500, plus the $500 I've already spent getting the MRI and diagnosis. Bleh.

Hope you feel better soon. I have a nagging shoulder too and have been putting off getting seen for it but it might be time.

Yeah, I'm hoping this prevents worse injuries in the long run. The really dumb thing is if I had invested $200 in better desk ergonomics and improved my working habits I probably would not have this issue at all.

What finally tipped me over the edge in getting a diagnosis was shoveling 4 or 5 yards of topsoil and moving it around my yard. The pain was bad enough to keep me awake at night, even after 3 ibuprofen. I thought I had torn something.

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« Reply #379 on: February 08, 2017, 03:14:26 PM »
A bit late but here's my overall and very simple fitness and health goals for 2017:

- Increase my flexibility, endurance and muscle strength to do the follow yoga move: press headstand and the splits.

I usually train 3x a week but with very little improvment months after months. I've always wanted to do the splits but couldn't see real results even with trying everyday. I bought a Cody bundle (pure flexibility) and boy I was training wrong ! Hoping to see some progress as I'm now flexing all of my body instead of focusing on only a few parts.

 I'm also doing PIIT28 1.0, it's actually the only fitness program I didn't got bored off for now. I did it once in dec 2016 but I didn't followed the schedule as I was too sore/tired. Back to the normal schedule now ! So my goal right now is to train 6x/week with PIIT28 and substitute with weight training if I want to spice things a bit. Then do Pure Flexibility 5x/week as a cooldown.

frugalwitch, I've got you add to the participant tracking post. There are also some links about just the splits in the resource post (although it may be the 2016 legacy resources, which is one comment down).

Welcome to the gauntlet.

Did people actually get into the front splits with the link from the resource post? I took a look, and I do virtually ALL of those stretch exercises daily at yoga (which I've been doing consistently for almost a month now). I feel like I'm very slowly getting closer to front splits, but it seems crazy to say you could get there in 30 days by just doing a few of those stretches a day. I'd say maybe I could get them in six months? Perhaps progress on that front isn't linear, though.

My knees have been hurting a bit, and I came to the realization that while practicing front splits and I'm trying to challenge myself to go lower, I'm hyperextending my knee instead of making my hamstring muscle do the stretch, so I've been more aware of that and trying to keep a tension/bend in my front knee. Same with when I stand in a wide straddle and fold forward; I'm getting my gains toward the floor at the expense of my knees. Whoops! Now that I realize I'm doing it hopefully I can knock it off and let my sore ligaments heal.

Those stretches look like good progressions, I would definitely hold them for much longer though. I was recommended 3 minutes by the doctor who led my anatomy lesson in my yoga teacher training. Here is a good article that goes into the science: http://web.mit.edu/tkd/stretch/stretching_2.html#SEC13

"One of the reasons for holding a stretch for a prolonged period of time is that as you hold the muscle in a stretched position, the muscle spindle habituates (becomes accustomed to the new length) and reduces its signaling. Gradually, you can train your stretch receptors to allow greater lengthening of the muscles."

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« Reply #380 on: February 08, 2017, 04:05:34 PM »
A bit late but here's my overall and very simple fitness and health goals for 2017:

- Increase my flexibility, endurance and muscle strength to do the follow yoga move: press headstand and the splits.

I usually train 3x a week but with very little improvment months after months. I've always wanted to do the splits but couldn't see real results even with trying everyday. I bought a Cody bundle (pure flexibility) and boy I was training wrong ! Hoping to see some progress as I'm now flexing all of my body instead of focusing on only a few parts.

 I'm also doing PIIT28 1.0, it's actually the only fitness program I didn't got bored off for now. I did it once in dec 2016 but I didn't followed the schedule as I was too sore/tired. Back to the normal schedule now ! So my goal right now is to train 6x/week with PIIT28 and substitute with weight training if I want to spice things a bit. Then do Pure Flexibility 5x/week as a cooldown.

frugalwitch, I've got you add to the participant tracking post. There are also some links about just the splits in the resource post (although it may be the 2016 legacy resources, which is one comment down).

Welcome to the gauntlet.

Did people actually get into the front splits with the link from the resource post? I took a look, and I do virtually ALL of those stretch exercises daily at yoga (which I've been doing consistently for almost a month now). I feel like I'm very slowly getting closer to front splits, but it seems crazy to say you could get there in 30 days by just doing a few of those stretches a day. I'd say maybe I could get them in six months? Perhaps progress on that front isn't linear, though.

My knees have been hurting a bit, and I came to the realization that while practicing front splits and I'm trying to challenge myself to go lower, I'm hyperextending my knee instead of making my hamstring muscle do the stretch, so I've been more aware of that and trying to keep a tension/bend in my front knee. Same with when I stand in a wide straddle and fold forward; I'm getting my gains toward the floor at the expense of my knees. Whoops! Now that I realize I'm doing it hopefully I can knock it off and let my sore ligaments heal.

Those stretches look like good progressions, I would definitely hold them for much longer though. I was recommended 3 minutes by the doctor who led my anatomy lesson in my yoga teacher training. Here is a good article that goes into the science: http://web.mit.edu/tkd/stretch/stretching_2.html#SEC13

"One of the reasons for holding a stretch for a prolonged period of time is that as you hold the muscle in a stretched position, the muscle spindle habituates (becomes accustomed to the new length) and reduces its signaling. Gradually, you can train your stretch receptors to allow greater lengthening of the muscles."

Makes sense.  I'll start sticking around in the yoga room after class to hold the hamstring stretches for longer when my muscles are already warm - I'm only about 2-3 inches off of the ground, so I think I can get there soon!

Grumpy complaint about the new instructor who just took over evening classes - when I was in wheel last week, she put her hand on my shoulder blades to push them farther up, even though I was already stretched as far as was comfortable, and my entire left arm went numb almost immediately and was intermittently numb and tingly for the next two days (I assume a nerve was compressed or something).  I don't mind at all when instructors gently help me improve my form, but physically moving my body farther than it should go - especially when I'm in a pose that makes it hard to resist the correction - is Not Cool.

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« Reply #381 on: February 08, 2017, 04:10:21 PM »

Grumpy complaint about the new instructor who just took over evening classes - when I was in wheel last week, she put her hand on my shoulder blades to push them farther up, even though I was already stretched as far as was comfortable, and my entire left arm went numb almost immediately and was intermittently numb and tingly for the next two days (I assume a nerve was compressed or something).  I don't mind at all when instructors gently help me improve my form, but physically moving my body farther than it should go - especially when I'm in a pose that makes it hard to resist the correction - is Not Cool.

I would definitely say something to her! I give lots of hands on adjustments in lots of poses, but I make sure I know the student first before giving a big deepening assist. We can't feel what you feel so hearing whether or not an assist worked for you or didn't is good feedback for us. I would bring it up before your next class with her if possible. It's always nice to hear when an assist felt good too.

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« Reply #382 on: February 08, 2017, 04:27:15 PM »

Grumpy complaint about the new instructor who just took over evening classes - when I was in wheel last week, she put her hand on my shoulder blades to push them farther up, even though I was already stretched as far as was comfortable, and my entire left arm went numb almost immediately and was intermittently numb and tingly for the next two days (I assume a nerve was compressed or something).  I don't mind at all when instructors gently help me improve my form, but physically moving my body farther than it should go - especially when I'm in a pose that makes it hard to resist the correction - is Not Cool.

I would definitely say something to her! I give lots of hands on adjustments in lots of poses, but I make sure I know the student first before giving a big deepening assist. We can't feel what you feel so hearing whether or not an assist worked for you or didn't is good feedback for us. I would bring it up before your next class with her if possible. It's always nice to hear when an assist felt good too.

In the moment, I did give a pretty sharp "NOPE!" but could probably explain to her in a little more detail what the exact problem was. :) I was more than a little cranky about it though (sometimes yoga seems to bring my Moods to the fore, like they're being physically wrung out of all the places I've been hiding them), so I just left that class quickly. Now that I've had a chance to chill, I'll mention it to her.

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« Reply #383 on: February 09, 2017, 07:39:31 AM »
In the moment, I did give a pretty sharp "NOPE!" but could probably explain to her in a little more detail what the exact problem was. :) I was more than a little cranky about it though (sometimes yoga seems to bring my Moods to the fore, like they're being physically wrung out of all the places I've been hiding them), so I just left that class quickly. Now that I've had a chance to chill, I'll mention it to her.

The mood thing happens to me as well. I think "physically wrung out" is a good way to describe it.

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« Reply #384 on: February 09, 2017, 07:58:03 AM »
In the moment, I did give a pretty sharp "NOPE!" but could probably explain to her in a little more detail what the exact problem was. :) I was more than a little cranky about it though (sometimes yoga seems to bring my Moods to the fore, like they're being physically wrung out of all the places I've been hiding them), so I just left that class quickly. Now that I've had a chance to chill, I'll mention it to her.

The mood thing happens to me as well. I think "physically wrung out" is a good way to describe it.

Isn't that part of the point?
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« Reply #385 on: February 09, 2017, 09:04:19 AM »
In the moment, I did give a pretty sharp "NOPE!" but could probably explain to her in a little more detail what the exact problem was. :) I was more than a little cranky about it though (sometimes yoga seems to bring my Moods to the fore, like they're being physically wrung out of all the places I've been hiding them), so I just left that class quickly. Now that I've had a chance to chill, I'll mention it to her.

The mood thing happens to me as well. I think "physically wrung out" is a good way to describe it.

Isn't that part of the point?

It certainly can be, but a lot of people don't expect it. They get surprised when they suddenly feel sad or angry during class for "no apparent" reason. I've had yoga bring up tears for me, but generally I have minimal emotional stirrings or I just finish happy and  feeling "better."

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« Reply #386 on: February 09, 2017, 09:30:58 AM »
Running a half marathon this weekend. I've been running in mostly 20-30 degree weather, frequently colder, sometimes with snow. Weather for the half is currently calling for 60-65 degrees during the race (high of 72 for the day) with a 60% chance of rain. So that should be fun. I've been putting in the miles since my pain issue on my last truly long run, but no hard workouts. So I really don't know what the half will bring, my overall mileage tells me I will complete fine, but the lack of hard effort runs and lingering tightness in my left glute area after some runs tells me I should probably take it easy and just focus on marking another state off my list.

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« Reply #387 on: February 09, 2017, 09:40:37 AM »
Managed a 2 mile run today after work.  My ankle is really taking its time healing, but is getting better steadily. I was on my feet several hours Saturday and walked about 10 miles over the weekend. I did feel it getting fatigued towards the end of the day, but it recovered completely by the next day.  It was doing some funny popping on the run today, but felt pretty good. Will probably try to run again on Friday.  The two mile run seemed about right, I just need to keep at it.  I tend to talk myself out of it because 2 miles isn't "worth it," but it is.

What happened to your ankle?

On Saturday my ankle spontaneously got really swollen and sore after some regular walking (not more than 20 minutes). It was like it got sprained. But I didn't roll it or anything. It was really weird. I used to sprain this ankle as a child fairly often. It isn't sore anymore but still swollen.


My horse bucked me off rather spectacularly at the end of August, and apparently my left foot was the first thing to slam into the ground.  I thought it was just a normal sprain, but apparently was a little more involved than that, based on how long it's taking to truly heal.

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« Reply #388 on: February 10, 2017, 11:15:12 AM »
Y'all! I need some advice about programming when I have lots of simultaneous goals.

Right now, according to my data tracking, I spend 8.5 hours a week doing "work out" type activities, not including bike commuting. I also spend 4 hours a week work-trading at the hot yoga studio, which does get me free yoga, but I also do it for the networking for my business. But wouldn't do it if it didn't save me $89/month on yoga. So about 12.5 hours a week on fitness-y things.

My 30th birthday is July 7th, and I'm working on a ton of goals related to that. I'm having trouble keeping on top of all of them without just spend all my free time at the gym. I feel like they should be compatible, can you help me figure out a way to do this? Current goals:
  • Get my splits - this has proved incredibly challenging for me (thanks hamstrings of steel) - and it seems I need to spend 40+ minutes a day stretching deep stretches to achieve this, which eats into cardio/lifting time
  • 100 hours of yoga this calendar year (at 11 hours) - so 2-3 hours a week
  • Choreograph & master a dance for my 30th birthday (let's say 4 hours a week of practice in the next couple months)
  • Train for/run a half-marathon (in the past, it's taken me running 4 times a week, ~45 minutes, averaged out)
  • Lift my bodyweight (116lbs) for deadlift & backsquat, 100lbs for bench press (that's seeming less likely) - maybe 30 minutes, 3 times a week of lifting?
  • 100 continuous pushups (at 77 right now) -??? Takes me 3 minutes a day to do MAX pushups usually
Total time per week, estimate: 16.2 hours + 4 hours of yoga shift

So, is the answer to drop some goals, increase my gym time, or find a way to make more goals double up?


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« Reply #389 on: February 10, 2017, 11:20:45 AM »
Climbing at a commercial gym the other day, didn't keep track of the v-points. Did a ton of v4-5 problems, flashing about half of them. Couldn't get up any v6-7 problems. Got on the rings for the first time in a long time, found out that I can still do a muscle up so that's pretty cool :)

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Re: Strength & Fitness 2017
« Reply #390 on: February 10, 2017, 11:25:50 AM »
Current goals:
  • Get my splits - this has proved incredibly challenging for me (thanks hamstrings of steel) - and it seems I need to spend 40+ minutes a day stretching deep stretches to achieve this, which eats into cardio/lifting time
  • 100 hours of yoga this calendar year (at 11 hours) - so 2-3 hours a week
  • Choreograph & master a dance for my 30th birthday (let's say 4 hours a week of practice in the next couple months)
  • Train for/run a half-marathon (in the past, it's taken me running 4 times a week, ~45 minutes, averaged out)
  • Lift my bodyweight (116lbs) for deadlift & backsquat, 100lbs for bench press (that's seeming less likely) - maybe 30 minutes, 3 times a week of lifting?
  • 100 continuous pushups (at 77 right now) -??? Takes me 3 minutes a day to do MAX pushups usually
Total time per week, estimate: 16.2 hours + 4 hours of yoga shift

So, is the answer to drop some goals, increase my gym time, or find a way to make more goals double up?

I have no idea where to start with that many divergent goals. I think your best option is to pick one or two that are your highest priority and work on them until you achieve them. Once you reach a level where you can, for example, deadlift your body weight, it will require much less time investment to maintain that level and you can prioritize something else.

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Re: Strength & Fitness 2017
« Reply #391 on: February 10, 2017, 11:34:28 AM »
I have no idea where to start with that many divergent goals. I think your best option is to pick one or two that are your highest priority and work on them until you achieve them. Once you reach a level where you can, for example, deadlift your body weight, it will require much less time investment to maintain that level and you can prioritize something else.
Yea, that was sort of my thought. The only goal that takes a ton of time commitment and kinda goes against the others is the half-marathon goal, which I've done a dozen times in the past couple years. I just keep coming back to it because it's an easy accomplishment with a clear training schedule. The other advantage, is outside of my daily bike commute, it's the easiest thing to make sure I get enough cardio.

I think the problem is I like fitness too much & have too high of standards after being a high-level competitive athlete for so long, so I have trouble focusing on one thing (unless it's figure skating, which obviously is way too expensive to be mustachian.) Just "be fit" ends up feeling like not setting the bar high enough.
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« Reply #392 on: February 10, 2017, 11:37:49 AM »
I have no idea where to start with that many divergent goals. I think your best option is to pick one or two that are your highest priority and work on them until you achieve them. Once you reach a level where you can, for example, deadlift your body weight, it will require much less time investment to maintain that level and you can prioritize something else.
Yea, that was sort of my thought. The only goal that takes a ton of time commitment and kinda goes against the others is the half-marathon goal, which I've done a dozen times in the past couple years. I just keep coming back to it because it's an easy accomplishment with a clear training schedule. The other advantage, is outside of my daily bike commute, it's the easiest thing to make sure I get enough cardio.

I think the problem is I like fitness too much & have too high of standards after being a high-level competitive athlete for so long, so I have trouble focusing on one thing (unless it's figure skating, which obviously is way too expensive to be mustachian.) Just "be fit" ends up feeling like not setting the bar high enough.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing about the goals being difficult to double up on. My initial thought was something along the lines of cross training. Maybe a really uppity dance so that it's cardio too?

Also, are you doing these all separately? I know it doesn't matter so much as far as the actual time goes, but I was thinking that the yoga (unless it's just the shift), the running, and the pushups could all be used as a warm up to your lifting. And I would think that you could reduce the time stretching if you do them after your workout, when you are all warmed up.
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« Reply #393 on: February 10, 2017, 11:43:18 AM »
I have no idea where to start with that many divergent goals. I think your best option is to pick one or two that are your highest priority and work on them until you achieve them. Once you reach a level where you can, for example, deadlift your body weight, it will require much less time investment to maintain that level and you can prioritize something else.
Yea, that was sort of my thought. The only goal that takes a ton of time commitment and kinda goes against the others is the half-marathon goal, which I've done a dozen times in the past couple years. I just keep coming back to it because it's an easy accomplishment with a clear training schedule. The other advantage, is outside of my daily bike commute, it's the easiest thing to make sure I get enough cardio.

I think the problem is I like fitness too much & have too high of standards after being a high-level competitive athlete for so long, so I have trouble focusing on one thing (unless it's figure skating, which obviously is way too expensive to be mustachian.) Just "be fit" ends up feeling like not setting the bar high enough.

I can get your deadlift to 135 in a few months while you train for whatever cardio you want. Benefit of being a deadlift specialist is I've seen all the training programs. What's your current max? What equipment do you have access to?

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« Reply #394 on: February 10, 2017, 11:51:04 AM »
Also, are you doing these all separately? I know it doesn't matter so much as far as the actual time goes, but I was thinking that the yoga (unless it's just the shift), the running, and the pushups could all be used as a warm up to your lifting. And I would think that you could reduce the time stretching if you do them after your workout, when you are all warmed up.
I usually combine 30 minutes of cardio/running on treadmills followed by 30 minutes of stretching on the mats, or 10 minutes of warmup cardio + 20 minutes of lifting or bodyweight strength + 30 minutes of stretching.  If I hit a class, I get 60 minutes of cardio/strength and then I do 15 minutes of stretching.

The stretching eats up so much time and feels so "passive", but I would put getting my splits back as my #1 fitness goal. Which is silly because it's just for personal accomplishment reasons (doesn't make me healthier) but fuck it. I want it. I've been working at it so goddamn long.

I haven't started choreographing and practicing the dance at all yet, beyond taking 5:30AM dance cardio class which is totally not at all the same as West Coast Swing. Maybe it's better I don't count that as a fitness goal, and just a hobby.

Unfortunately, the yoga is far from my house (but across the street from my 2-day-a-week office) and is just at a hot yoga studio with no other ability to do anything else. Which is why I thought I would go 5 days a week, but I've been averaging 2. Gotta fix that so the 16 hours/month of work trade make some sense - now that we appear to be done with snowstorms making commuting hard, I'll be endeavoring to get that up.

I can get your deadlift to 135 in a few months while you train for whatever cardio you want. Benefit of being a deadlift specialist is I've seen all the training programs. What's your current max? What equipment do you have access to?
Very curious about this. Current one rep max is 91.5lbs. 3x5 is 88.5lbs. I have access to normal barbells & weight plates, kettlebells, hand weights, and all the MegaGym weight machines I totally ignore,  plus a smith machine that unfortunately doesn't go down far enough for deadlifts. I don't have a lifting partner so it's hard to find someone to spot me though (matters less for deadlifts, I guess, but matters for benching).
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Re: Strength & Fitness 2017
« Reply #395 on: February 10, 2017, 12:09:16 PM »
  • Get my splits - this has proved incredibly challenging for me (thanks hamstrings of steel) - and it seems I need to spend 40+ minutes a day stretching deep stretches to achieve this, which eats into cardio/lifting time
  • Lift my bodyweight (116lbs) for deadlift & backsquat

These goals seem contradictory. I'm not expert, but if you have "hamstrings of steel" training deadlift and backsquat are going to make them more steely.

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« Reply #396 on: February 10, 2017, 12:15:32 PM »
Also, are you doing these all separately? I know it doesn't matter so much as far as the actual time goes, but I was thinking that the yoga (unless it's just the shift), the running, and the pushups could all be used as a warm up to your lifting. And I would think that you could reduce the time stretching if you do them after your workout, when you are all warmed up.
I usually combine 30 minutes of cardio/running on treadmills followed by 30 minutes of stretching on the mats, or 10 minutes of warmup cardio + 20 minutes of lifting or bodyweight strength + 30 minutes of stretching.  If I hit a class, I get 60 minutes of cardio/strength and then I do 15 minutes of stretching.

The stretching eats up so much time and feels so "passive", but I would put getting my splits back as my #1 fitness goal. Which is silly because it's just for personal accomplishment reasons (doesn't make me healthier) but fuck it. I want it. I've been working at it so goddamn long.

I haven't started choreographing and practicing the dance at all yet, beyond taking 5:30AM dance cardio class which is totally not at all the same as West Coast Swing. Maybe it's better I don't count that as a fitness goal, and just a hobby.

Unfortunately, the yoga is far from my house (but across the street from my 2-day-a-week office) and is just at a hot yoga studio with no other ability to do anything else. Which is why I thought I would go 5 days a week, but I've been averaging 2. Gotta fix that so the 16 hours/month of work trade make some sense - now that we appear to be done with snowstorms making commuting hard, I'll be endeavoring to get that up.

I can get your deadlift to 135 in a few months while you train for whatever cardio you want. Benefit of being a deadlift specialist is I've seen all the training programs. What's your current max? What equipment do you have access to?
Very curious about this. Current one rep max is 91.5lbs. 3x5 is 88.5lbs. I have access to normal barbells & weight plates, kettlebells, hand weights, and all the MegaGym weight machines I totally ignore,  plus a smith machine that unfortunately doesn't go down far enough for deadlifts. I don't have a lifting partner so it's hard to find someone to spot me though (matters less for deadlifts, I guess, but matters for benching).

What's your sticking point with deadlifts? I'll write up a couple of options my wife used to go from 105 to 235 in about 6 months while dropping bodyfat.

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Re: Strength & Fitness 2017
« Reply #397 on: February 10, 2017, 12:27:00 PM »
What's your sticking point with deadlifts? I'll write up a couple of options my wife used to go from 105 to 235 in about 6 months while dropping bodyfat.
Honestly, not having a program I love and not having a training partner. I was doing great when I had small group lifting classes, but they're too pricey for me. I've been getting better, but at ~2lb/month which is slower than I'd like.


These goals seem contradictory. I'm not expert, but if you have "hamstrings of steel" training deadlift and backsquat are going to make them more steely.
I'm so curious about this. The reason I think it was possible was that I was REALLY FUCKING STRONG when I was a figure skater (leg press using machine 400lbs when I was 100lbs, bench press 150lbs, do double axels and triple lutzes which require insane explosive strength) but I could also lift my foot above my head and hold it there, dive down into the splits, and do upside-down splits while rotating in the air. I had to stretch a ton, but it didn't seem to interfere with my explosive strength. I stretched about an hour each day back then, plus ballet 3 times a week and pilates. And obviously, 20-25 hours of figure skating on-ice.

But maybe that's because I was under 20 years old. Maybe it's just not possible to deadlift body weight and do splits and be 30.
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« Reply #398 on: February 10, 2017, 12:28:36 PM »
Also, are you doing these all separately? I know it doesn't matter so much as far as the actual time goes, but I was thinking that the yoga (unless it's just the shift), the running, and the pushups could all be used as a warm up to your lifting. And I would think that you could reduce the time stretching if you do them after your workout, when you are all warmed up.
I usually combine 30 minutes of cardio/running on treadmills followed by 30 minutes of stretching on the mats, or 10 minutes of warmup cardio + 20 minutes of lifting or bodyweight strength + 30 minutes of stretching.  If I hit a class, I get 60 minutes of cardio/strength and then I do 15 minutes of stretching.

The stretching eats up so much time and feels so "passive", but I would put getting my splits back as my #1 fitness goal. Which is silly because it's just for personal accomplishment reasons (doesn't make me healthier) but fuck it. I want it. I've been working at it so goddamn long.

I haven't started choreographing and practicing the dance at all yet, beyond taking 5:30AM dance cardio class which is totally not at all the same as West Coast Swing. Maybe it's better I don't count that as a fitness goal, and just a hobby.

Unfortunately, the yoga is far from my house (but across the street from my 2-day-a-week office) and is just at a hot yoga studio with no other ability to do anything else. Which is why I thought I would go 5 days a week, but I've been averaging 2. Gotta fix that so the 16 hours/month of work trade make some sense - now that we appear to be done with snowstorms making commuting hard, I'll be endeavoring to get that up.

I can get your deadlift to 135 in a few months while you train for whatever cardio you want. Benefit of being a deadlift specialist is I've seen all the training programs. What's your current max? What equipment do you have access to?
Very curious about this. Current one rep max is 91.5lbs. 3x5 is 88.5lbs. I have access to normal barbells & weight plates, kettlebells, hand weights, and all the MegaGym weight machines I totally ignore,  plus a smith machine that unfortunately doesn't go down far enough for deadlifts. I don't have a lifting partner so it's hard to find someone to spot me though (matters less for deadlifts, I guess, but matters for benching).

What's your sticking point with deadlifts? I'll write up a couple of options my wife used to go from 105 to 235 in about 6 months while dropping bodyfat.

I also feel like it's important to note that MonsterMonster is an itty bitty human being, so 135lbs is pretty significant for her size. =)
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« Reply #399 on: February 10, 2017, 12:30:16 PM »
I also feel like it's important to note that MonsterMonster is an itty bitty human being, so 135lbs is pretty significant for her size. =)
I mean, I'm giant compared to my figure skating days, but yes,  I weigh 117 after I've eaten an entire pot of pasta.
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