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« Reply #50 on: December 27, 2016, 07:12:17 PM »
Glad to see so much enthusiasm for this topic.  My alcohol consumption probably peaked last week with the holiday season, but has been nil the last few days.  Also, most of last week's drinking did not involve any actual expenditure and was covered by family at various dinners and gatherings.

I've built up a nice reserve of alcohol from various Christmas gifts and I am hoping that this will last me until the end of February 2017.  My 'home-made' wine should be ready by the second week of January and I am hoping that batch will push my reserves to at least April 2017.  I'm going to try and drink everything I have in my apartment before I venture out to purchase new alcohol.  I'm also going to be pretty ruthless about turning down opportunities to drink out at bars with my friends and colleagues. 

And I fully agree with the above posts that aside from the financial angle, there are serious health benefits to reducing or eliminating alcohol consumption.  I'm not at the point yet where I am ready to quit entirely, although it is something that I have often thought about, but I am going to resolve not to 1) Be hungover at work any day in 2017; and 2) Limit my drinking on work nights to one drink.

With full disclosure I used to do this regularly....that being having a few drinks during the week.  You sound like alcohol is part of your social scene right now and I get it.  I was a big drinker at your age. 

Why not just cut the non social drinking completely? 
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« Reply #51 on: December 28, 2016, 07:04:23 AM »
Just in case anyone need any extra help, for the young folks who haven't developed a real problem yet but just want to stay in control:  http://www.moderation.org/

For people who have already lost control but don't want to join the cult commonly known as AA:  http://www.smartrecovery.org/

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« Reply #52 on: December 28, 2016, 05:33:24 PM »
Glad to see so much enthusiasm for this topic.  My alcohol consumption probably peaked last week with the holiday season, but has been nil the last few days.  Also, most of last week's drinking did not involve any actual expenditure and was covered by family at various dinners and gatherings.

I've built up a nice reserve of alcohol from various Christmas gifts and I am hoping that this will last me until the end of February 2017.  My 'home-made' wine should be ready by the second week of January and I am hoping that batch will push my reserves to at least April 2017.  I'm going to try and drink everything I have in my apartment before I venture out to purchase new alcohol.  I'm also going to be pretty ruthless about turning down opportunities to drink out at bars with my friends and colleagues. 

And I fully agree with the above posts that aside from the financial angle, there are serious health benefits to reducing or eliminating alcohol consumption.  I'm not at the point yet where I am ready to quit entirely, although it is something that I have often thought about, but I am going to resolve not to 1) Be hungover at work any day in 2017; and 2) Limit my drinking on work nights to one drink.

With full disclosure I used to do this regularly....that being having a few drinks during the week.  You sound like alcohol is part of your social scene right now and I get it.  I was a big drinker at your age. 

Why not just cut the non social drinking completely?

To clarify, I don't usually drink alone now in any event.  Almost all my drinking is social drinking, usually out, which is what drives up the costs.  And many work nights I don't drink at all, but the issue is that sometimes, due to social gatherings or events with clients, I can overdo it on a work night, which has deleterious impacts not only on my health and wallet, but also on my productivity the following day.

In 2017 I hope to encourage my friends to come over to my apartment for beverages as opposed to spending money out, which often leads to ancillary costs such as Uber rides and food.

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« Reply #53 on: December 28, 2016, 06:03:57 PM »
Makes sense.  I am still on the fence about cutting it out completely to get in better shape.  I already rarely have any in the house.  Not a big leap to go dry for a few months and see how it feels.
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« Reply #54 on: December 28, 2016, 07:08:46 PM »
I stopped drinking over two years ago. I never bothered lying when people asked me why. At first it was to save money, and I figured I could still participate in open-bar type events. But that turned out to be inadvisable, so I cut it off completely. I lost a little weight and started sleeping better. Cutting out coffee around the same time helped with the sleep too.

I've gotten into a couple conversations about early retirement from this, and I never want to deny myself the chance to talk about that!

Hey, virtual high five! I have to admit I get the weirdest reactions when I tell people I stopped drinking alcohol and coffee.  Stopping one seems to be acceptable but both is down right heresy.

The next thing I tried to reduce/cut out was processed sugar.  I was OK for about two months and did well over Thanksgiving but then people kept giving us chocolates and other sweets.  It was in the house for about a week until I caved in.  I'm not eating half a boxes in a day but I definitely fell of the wagon.  I need to start giving them away somehow.

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« Reply #55 on: December 28, 2016, 07:16:28 PM »
You are totally bad ass mxt0133!  Quitting both is a major feat and I agree you are swimming completely against the 'adulting' current.  I don't think that is even a word...yet.

I hear you on the sugar fix.  When there are free donuts in the office sometimes I've been known to eat 2 or even 3.  It's terrible.  I re-gifted chocolate I received at the office for a house get together...good riddance. 
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« Reply #56 on: December 28, 2016, 07:57:50 PM »
I stopped drinking over two years ago. I never bothered lying when people asked me why. At first it was to save money, and I figured I could still participate in open-bar type events. But that turned out to be inadvisable, so I cut it off completely. I lost a little weight and started sleeping better. Cutting out coffee around the same time helped with the sleep too.

I've gotten into a couple conversations about early retirement from this, and I never want to deny myself the chance to talk about that!

Hey, virtual high five! I have to admit I get the weirdest reactions when I tell people I stopped drinking alcohol and coffee.  Stopping one seems to be acceptable but both is down right heresy.

The next thing I tried to reduce/cut out was processed sugar.  I was OK for about two months and did well over Thanksgiving but then people kept giving us chocolates and other sweets.  It was in the house for about a week until I caved in.  I'm not eating half a boxes in a day but I definitely fell of the wagon.  I need to start giving them away somehow.

Wow!  Congratulations on getting off the coffee train!

I have been trying to quit coffee for awhile now for health reasons.  Unfortunately, it seems to cause hives/acne and my skin to get blotchy.  Nonetheless, despite this powerful motivator I haven't quite been able to shake it.  I have powerful physical symptoms of caffeine withdrawal whenever I go off it.  Fortunately, I always drink coffee at home or at the office, so my financial cost is miniscule. It also helps that I'm not into anything but plain black coffee/espresso.

I find that alcohol is actually easier for me to cut back on as I primarily drink due to social reasons, I don't have cravings for alcohol at all.  If I were to go into the woods for a week for example without anyone, I wouldn't have any problems not drinking alcohol.  However, I often physically crave a cup of coffee (or more often these days an espresso.)

Luckily, sugar has never been my thing and I pretty much avoid all sweets and drink my coffee black. 

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« Reply #57 on: December 28, 2016, 10:21:03 PM »
The physical dependency was my primary motivation for quitting coffee.  I went on a fast for two days and had most awful caffeine withdrawal headaches.  I got over it in about a two weeks and never looked back.  I'm pretty sure I can have a cup or two and not get into the habit, but it's come to a point where I don't event want it because of the cost compared to water.

For alcohol, cost was the main reason but also trying to break the social programming/advertising that alcohol is needed to have a good time.  I used to be a social drinker.  But then after having kids I didn't get to out as often so I started drinking at home because I associated alcohol with being social. I really didn't like where that was leading to.  For me the social expectation was harder to overcome than any physical cravings for alcohol. 

My advice would be to take it one day at a time.  No one will think any less of you if you don't have a drink.  If you have to, come up with a fake excuse like I lost a bet and have to stay sober for a month, until you get comfortable saying the truth.

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« Reply #58 on: December 28, 2016, 10:36:50 PM »
The physical dependency was my primary motivation for quitting coffee.  I went on a fast for two days and had most awful caffeine withdrawal headaches.  I got over it in about a two weeks and never looked back.  I'm pretty sure I can have a cup or two and not get into the habit, but it's come to a point where I don't event want it because of the cost compared to water.

For alcohol, cost was the main reason but also trying to break the social programming/advertising that alcohol is needed to have a good time.  I used to be a social drinker.  But then after having kids I didn't get to out as often so I started drinking at home because I associated alcohol with being social. I really didn't like where that was leading to.  For me the social expectation was harder to overcome than any physical cravings for alcohol. 

My advice would be to take it one day at a time.  No one will think any less of you if you don't have a drink.  If you have to, come up with a fake excuse like I lost a bet and have to stay sober for a month, until you get comfortable saying the truth.

Thanks for explaining your reasoning.  It's exactly the same as mine. 

Quitting coffee is not hard.  3 cups...2 cups...1 cup...0.5 cup...quit.  Do this over 2 weeks and you will not experience the headaches which are horrible. 

I sleep better quitting coffee as MJ pointed out.  I also implemented a better sleep regime.  I go to bed at 10 PM and get up at 6 AM as a routine.  Keeping the sleep pattern helps. 

Both alcohol and coffee are associated with social situations.  I've switched to decaf for those situations because I'm not willing to give up the interactions.  Once in a while I just have a hot water with lemon. 

I can now walk into the kitchen without going to the coffee maker.  I feel more awake now then when I had coffee. 

I'm old enough now that I don't care what people think if I don't drink alcohol.  I'm a work in progress. 
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« Reply #59 on: December 29, 2016, 08:24:50 AM »
I've limited my coffee consumption to two hours of the day:  5:00 to 7:00 a.m.  The rest of the day I have green tea.

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« Reply #60 on: December 29, 2016, 01:34:31 PM »
I've never been a coffee person (I can't stand the taste of it), but I was seriously addicted to diet coke for years. The caffeine addiction was actually secondary, but it was totally an issue too. I somehow managed to quit drinking diet coke completely right around June of this year. Cold turkey. I had horrible headaches for several days, but it passed in about 3-4 days. For me/us, drinking alcohol is more of a habit situation. You get to a point where you're programmed that when you do X you have a drink. Like when you're celebrating, or when you're depressed, or when you're watching football, etc. So for me, it's more about breaking those automatic habits than anything else. I have similar problems with eating junk food. It's triggered by situations. 

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« Reply #61 on: December 29, 2016, 02:45:08 PM »
I've never been a coffee person (I can't stand the taste of it), but I was seriously addicted to diet coke for years. The caffeine addiction was actually secondary, but it was totally an issue too. I somehow managed to quit drinking diet coke completely right around June of this year. Cold turkey. I had horrible headaches for several days, but it passed in about 3-4 days. For me/us, drinking alcohol is more of a habit situation. You get to a point where you're programmed that when you do X you have a drink. Like when you're celebrating, or when you're depressed, or when you're watching football, etc. So for me, it's more about breaking those automatic habits than anything else. I have similar problems with eating junk food. It's triggered by situations.

This book helped me identify my triggers and develop strategies to avoid or modify my reactions to those triggers.  Also knowing that will power is limited helped me feel less guilty about being weak or lacking self-control in those situations.

I hope it helps you change the habits you want to break.

https://www.amazon.com/Power-Habit-What-Life-Business/dp/081298160X

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« Reply #62 on: December 29, 2016, 03:06:41 PM »
I've never been a coffee person (I can't stand the taste of it), but I was seriously addicted to diet coke for years. The caffeine addiction was actually secondary, but it was totally an issue too. I somehow managed to quit drinking diet coke completely right around June of this year. Cold turkey. I had horrible headaches for several days, but it passed in about 3-4 days. For me/us, drinking alcohol is more of a habit situation. You get to a point where you're programmed that when you do X you have a drink. Like when you're celebrating, or when you're depressed, or when you're watching football, etc. So for me, it's more about breaking those automatic habits than anything else. I have similar problems with eating junk food. It's triggered by situations.

This book helped me identify my triggers and develop strategies to avoid or modify my reactions to those triggers.  Also knowing that will power is limited helped me feel less guilty about being weak or lacking self-control in those situations.

I hope it helps you change the habits you want to break.

https://www.amazon.com/Power-Habit-What-Life-Business/dp/081298160X

That looks great!  This forum, and MMM, truly is the best.  I'll be checking this out of my local library as soon as I finish up some other holiday reading I committed to.

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« Reply #63 on: December 31, 2016, 07:24:27 AM »
I'm only mildly impressed by the amount of thread drift. Need more foam in this coffee/alcohol discussion.
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« Reply #64 on: January 01, 2017, 03:33:10 PM »
Alright folks.....here is my anti-Mustachian wall of shame final summary of my alcohol consumption/spend in 2016.  All figures are in Canadian dollars:

Total estimated spend in 2016: $2,754.70 (FUCK).
Total estimated drink consumption, which was much higher than initially reported due to a spreadsheet error: 581 drinks

Note that my definition of "drink" is essentially a pint of 4-5% beer, one glass of wine, or one shot.  This figure is a bit of an inexact estimate as I would sometimes add 0.5 of a drink or more for particularly alcohol heavy beers (i.e. I count an 8% IPA as two drinks).

To put this spend and consumption into context, it is the equivalent of:
  • Just under 4 months' rent;
  • 2.25 work weeks;
  • A kick-ass 2-week (or more) vacation to Colombia or some other country in South America;
  • 1.59 drinks every single day (time to cut back not just cost but also quantity);
  • Approximately $230 a month, which using MMM's method of calculating the value of an expense over a 10 year period (multiply by 173), will add up to $39,790 out of my pocket by 2026.

 

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« Reply #65 on: January 01, 2017, 04:10:35 PM »
Really impressed that you are calculating the true costs.  The main thing is wanting to change.  How hungover today?  I was completely dry last night. 
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« Reply #66 on: January 01, 2017, 04:21:46 PM »
Really impressed that you are calculating the true costs.  The main thing is wanting to change.  How hungover today?  I was completely dry last night.

Haha, moderately hungover, but not as bad as past years.  I left the party at 12:30 AM and was asleep by 2:00 AM. 

I also used alcohol that was gifted for Christmas so there was no additional spend.

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« Reply #67 on: January 01, 2017, 04:53:09 PM »
how many of you are starting your joyless january today? - aka alcohol free? caffeine free?

im considering it. definitely not purchasing any drinks in restaurants or pubs, but i also kind of want to see if i can go through the month without drinking.

i had a fairly tame NYE last night. 2 coffees with baileys before i went out (with the goal of staying awake til midnight, or even *gasp* 1am). then i had 3/4 bottle of wine at a party. i got tired/bored so actually came home at 11pm and went to bed. LOL! im only 31. in my defence, i had some really wild party days from 16-25.

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« Reply #68 on: January 03, 2017, 06:44:38 AM »
i'm alcohol free for the next 8 months or so b/c my wife is pregnant.  going on 3 weeks now. 0 booze.  we used to go thru a case of wine and a six pack or 2 of beer a week.  which is about 50 dollars a week savings.  Projected savings over 9 months = 2k.
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« Reply #69 on: January 03, 2017, 07:04:48 AM »
I stopped drinking over two years ago. I never bothered lying when people asked me why. At first it was to save money, and I figured I could still participate in open-bar type events. But that turned out to be inadvisable, so I cut it off completely. I lost a little weight and started sleeping better. Cutting out coffee around the same time helped with the sleep too.

I've gotten into a couple conversations about early retirement from this, and I never want to deny myself the chance to talk about that!

Hey, virtual high five! I have to admit I get the weirdest reactions when I tell people I stopped drinking alcohol and coffee.  Stopping one seems to be acceptable but both is down right heresy.

The next thing I tried to reduce/cut out was processed sugar.  I was OK for about two months and did well over Thanksgiving but then people kept giving us chocolates and other sweets.  It was in the house for about a week until I caved in.  I'm not eating half a boxes in a day but I definitely fell of the wagon.  I need to start giving them away somehow.

Virtual high five back! It's funny seeing which one people freak out over more, the booze or the coffee.

No processed sugar is impressive and one that I am not up to tackling.

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« Reply #70 on: January 03, 2017, 08:08:12 AM »
i'm alcohol free for the next 8 months or so b/c my wife is pregnant.  going on 3 weeks now. 0 booze.  we used to go thru a case of wine and a six pack or 2 of beer a week.  which is about 50 dollars a week savings.  Projected savings over 9 months = 2k.

Stick that in the market and when they graduate high school you'll have a nice gift for the kid, who can thank you for not drinking!

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« Reply #71 on: January 03, 2017, 08:56:29 AM »
i'm alcohol free for the next 8 months or so b/c my wife is pregnant.  going on 3 weeks now. 0 booze.  we used to go thru a case of wine and a six pack or 2 of beer a week.  which is about 50 dollars a week savings.  Projected savings over 9 months = 2k.

Stick that in the market and when they graduate high school you'll have a nice gift for the kid, who can thank you for not drinking!

it all goes in the market every extra dollar.  i dont like to separate things as "for the kids" i dont budget.  my wife does with her money... i just know what i have and have large forced savings ( more than i actually make) that force me to side hustle just to meet that savings plus any extra i want.
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« Reply #72 on: January 03, 2017, 10:13:39 AM »
I still did not set any tangible goal regarding alcohol.  It is still such an accepted norm.  I invited a few people over for dinner so I felt I needed to have a bottle of red wine just in case.  Now I've tucked it away so I won't just feel like I 'need' a glass after work.  Then once the bottle is open you have to finish it, right!?

I also want to reduce my sugar.   
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« Reply #73 on: January 03, 2017, 11:11:29 AM »
I should probably get on board with this. I spent a LOT of money on booze over the holidays.

I don't typically have more than 1 drink per night (and not every night), but we've stopped buying/making anything sweet because Boyfriend is trying to lose weight and he can't control himself around sugar. So, a lot of times I find myself having a glass of wine in the evening in place of dessert. I don't even necessarily WANT wine, but I want a treat and that's the only thing in the house that qualifies.

Yes, I could go out for something sugary but I'm disinclined to do that in the winter, plus buying a single serving of dessert out is way more expensive than, say, baking a batch of something from scratch. Sigh. God, I miss baking. :(

Anyway: so far this year my alcohol spend is $8. (I bought a bottle of wine yesterday while grocery shopping.)

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« Reply #74 on: January 03, 2017, 12:17:37 PM »
Alcohol free for the next 30 (and maybe longer)  NOT caffeine free.... maybe next month?

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« Reply #75 on: January 03, 2017, 09:58:16 PM »
Posting to follow.

Marty has been kicking my arse about booze, because the more I drink, the less I run.

I don't drink coffee or tea though, so I got that going for me.

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« Reply #76 on: January 03, 2017, 10:01:26 PM »
i'm alcohol free for the next 8 months or so b/c my wife is pregnant.  going on 3 weeks now. 0 booze.  we used to go thru a case of wine and a six pack or 2 of beer a week.  which is about 50 dollars a week savings.  Projected savings over 9 months = 2k.

Damn! How are you finding going cold turkey?

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« Reply #77 on: January 04, 2017, 04:47:49 AM »
Not hard at all really.
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« Reply #78 on: January 04, 2017, 05:01:15 AM »
I still did not set any tangible goal regarding alcohol.  It is still such an accepted norm.  I invited a few people over for dinner so I felt I needed to have a bottle of red wine just in case.  Now I've tucked it away so I won't just feel like I 'need' a glass after work.  Then once the bottle is open you have to finish it, right!?

I also want to reduce my sugar.

I've heard it goes bad if you don't finish it right after opening.
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« Reply #79 on: January 08, 2017, 12:21:53 PM »
I'm doing fairly well. I did give in and spent around $6 on drinks on Friday night, but feel good that today when my husband said he was going to the store to get drinks I didn't give in and have him pick something up for me. One good decision at a time.

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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #80 on: January 08, 2017, 12:39:37 PM »
There is nothing like a hangover to motivate me to drink less. I'm new to my city and trying to make friends, so I went to a game night meetup last night and drank too much to ease the social anxiety. I also spent too much (the meetup was at a cool/overpriced bar downtown) but it's the headache and low-level nausea that is really spurring my current regret. I get hangovers maybe 3 times a year and always forget how terrible they are.

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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #81 on: January 08, 2017, 01:47:13 PM »
Checking in.

I haven't had a drink since NYE so zero alcohol spending here.

No soft drink either, which is my real goal.

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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #82 on: January 08, 2017, 02:49:03 PM »
Pro tip: bring a small flask of gin when going out. Order Soda Water and discreetly make your own drink. Good times!

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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #83 on: January 08, 2017, 03:05:31 PM »
I'm also joining! I made significant progress in 2016 from my usual average of $100/month on bars (not including food), and I stopped working in a line of work (fundraising & politics) where booze was de rigeur. I still spent $865.42 for all of 2016 on bars + alcohol for home, however - and unlike you, I don't like in Canada! I live in a sales-tax-free $4 pint area!

My goal for 2017 is simply to spend LESS on booze. I might not hit 75% less (especially as I am heading to Russia this year...vodka is part of the experience but luckily cheap) but I want to spend less overall. Shooting for less than $600 this year.

This was my 2016 alcohol spending (bar spending - just beverages- in orange, alcohol for home is in red).


Can you tell the three months I took off of drinking in the above graph? It's so obvious what booze does to my spending!

Currently I am on day 40 out of ??? days of not drinking. Possibly shooting for 100 but not totally sure.

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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #84 on: January 08, 2017, 05:42:47 PM »
i'm alcohol free for the next 8 months or so b/c my wife is pregnant.  going on 3 weeks now. 0 booze.  we used to go thru a case of wine and a six pack or 2 of beer a week.  which is about 50 dollars a week savings.  Projected savings over 9 months = 2k.

Damn! How are you finding going cold turkey?

Cold turkey in my opinion is the most effective and easiest way to stop drinking.

I've personally tried moderation to curb unnecessary weekday drinking, but it doesn't work, for me and many others.  One small exception leads to another, then to another, and then you've failed your "controlled" drinking attempt and you are back to your old habits.  It's very easy to go back to your old ways.

I will note all big events coming up in my social life where i'd like to have a few drinks (weddings/holidays/etc) and plan my drinking around that.

For example, I have a wedding in March and that's the next time i will have a drink, the last one i had was on new years since that was another planned event i wanted to enjoy a good beer.

Works for me, moderation on a week to week basis is very tough and very few can pull it off - speaking about those who do have a weekday drinking habit.

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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #85 on: January 08, 2017, 08:09:47 PM »
Checking in.

I haven't had a drink since NYE so zero alcohol spending here.

No soft drink either, which is my real goal.

As @Last Night said, I would say cold turkey may be the best option. Right before this Christmas, I decided to stop drinking myself. It has been about two weeks. We will see how long it lasts. :-) No matter what it will be good for my wallet and liver. :-)

BTW, I haven't had a soft drink in last two years or so. I am trying to cut sugar from my diet completely.

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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #86 on: January 09, 2017, 08:21:44 AM »
  I am on board!

I personally drank 536 drinks last year, this is a decrease from 650 prior year( my God!), the reduced amount is  still  10 drinks per week and I am not young.

I estimate the wife and I spend 3600 per year on alcohol, and my goal is to reduce our spending by 50%. I have 2 weeks under my belt with no alcohol.  I also feel like abstaining is a way to cut down our eating out budget because half our eating out is just "drinking out" with a snack.

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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #87 on: January 09, 2017, 08:26:34 AM »
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all right folks.....here is my anti-Mustachian wall of shame final summary of my alcohol consumption/spend in 2016.  All figures are in Canadian dollars:

Total estimated spend in 2016: $2,754.70 (FUCK).
Total estimated drink consumption, which was much higher than initially reported due to a spreadsheet error: 581 drinks

  I am on board!

I personally drank 536 drinks last year, this is a decrease from 650 prior year( my God!), the reduced amount is  still  10 drinks per week and I am not young.

I estimate the wife and I spend 3600 per year on alcohol, and my goal is to reduce our spending by 50%. I have 2 weeks under my belt with no alcohol.  I also feel like abstaining is a way to cut down our eating out budget because half our eating out is just "drinking out" with a snack. I also gave up coffee last month just miss it in the afternoons, herbal tea does not  help that afternoon drag [/quote]

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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #88 on: January 09, 2017, 09:29:00 AM »
I was doing well, zero spend, until I hit the weekend and then everything went off the rails.  Ended up spending approximately $110.00 Canadian this weekend (WTF).  Some friends of mine came back from vacation and the social drinking got out of control.  Although, part of that was $20 on one martini (double WTF) at a hotel bar, which I ordered without looking at the price, and another $25 was two beers at an NHL hockey game.  The remaining $55 did come from one bar though.  Overall, the actual amount of drinks was not that bad, but the costs spiraled out of control.

Looks like I will be trying the cold turkey method, at least until I can counteract the spend from this weekend and get back on track to my goal of reducing spend by 75%.  I've been 100% off coffee since January 5th using the cold turkey method.  The first day was hellish. 

As for cutting back on the social drinking, I'm just going to need to take up a hobby to keep my time occupied, maybe I'll finally sign up for Treehouse and learn some coding skills on the side. 


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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #89 on: January 09, 2017, 09:31:47 AM »
As for cutting back on the social drinking, I'm just going to need to take up a hobby to keep my time occupied, maybe I'll finally sign up for Treehouse and learn some coding skills on the side.
I took up fancy group fitness classes last year and that helped significantly. Particularly because I was in an alcohol-heavy workaholic field and I found the stress relief of group fitness was better for me than whiskey as an after-work habit (or before-going-back-for-second-shift-at-office-habit).

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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #90 on: January 09, 2017, 09:33:17 AM »

As for cutting back on the social drinking, I'm just going to need to take up a hobby to keep my time occupied, maybe I'll finally sign up for Treehouse and learn some coding skills on the side.
Could you just work on ordering club soda or water instead? Offer to be a designated driver so you really have a good excuse to not drink?

I think coding instead of going to a hockey game seems like an extreme measure to not drink.

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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #91 on: January 09, 2017, 09:34:35 AM »
I think coding instead of going to a hockey game seems like an extreme measure to not drink.
I dunno, sounds way more fun to me!

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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #92 on: January 09, 2017, 09:36:53 AM »

As for cutting back on the social drinking, I'm just going to need to take up a hobby to keep my time occupied, maybe I'll finally sign up for Treehouse and learn some coding skills on the side.
Could you just work on ordering club soda or water instead? Offer to be a designated driver so you really have a good excuse to not drink?

I think coding instead of going to a hockey game seems like an extreme measure to not drink.

Lol you are right about the hockey, I would still go to a game and just get pizza or something.  I wasn't referring to the hockey game per se, but I do think it would be helpful to excuse myself from the social activities that purely take place at bars, at least for a few weeks while I build up some willpower and get used to being alcohol-free for awhile.

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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #93 on: January 09, 2017, 04:04:19 PM »
I was doing well, zero spend, until I hit the weekend and then everything went off the rails.  Ended up spending approximately $110.00 Canadian this weekend (WTF).  Some friends of mine came back from vacation and the social drinking got out of control.  Although, part of that was $20 on one martini (double WTF) at a hotel bar, which I ordered without looking at the price, and another $25 was two beers at an NHL hockey game.  The remaining $55 did come from one bar though.  Overall, the actual amount of drinks was not that bad, but the costs spiraled out of control.

Looks like I will be trying the cold turkey method, at least until I can counteract the spend from this weekend and get back on track to my goal of reducing spend by 75%.  I've been 100% off coffee since January 5th using the cold turkey method.  The first day was hellish. 

As for cutting back on the social drinking, I'm just going to need to take up a hobby to keep my time occupied, maybe I'll finally sign up for Treehouse and learn some coding skills on the side.

25 for two beers is not bad at a game.

If I remember right, last time I was at the ACC for a raptors game i paid $18/coors light LOL.  Work expenses covered it, but that gave me sticker shock.  I still had two beers though ;)
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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #94 on: January 09, 2017, 04:17:25 PM »
I used to work a rotational schedule and on my weeks off I would crank through a 6 pack or equivalent in a day without breaking a sweat.

Between bars and drinking at home I was clocking ~$300 a month.

About a year ago, I decided to quit smoking and found that I had about minimal self-control at avoiding nicotine while I drank.

I pretty much gave up drinking to succeed at quitting smoking. I'll have a beer or mixed drink occasionally with dinner (i.e. once or twice a month), but I don't miss at all how much I was I drinking, how much money it was costing me, or how crappy it made me feel when I drank too much.


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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #95 on: January 09, 2017, 07:10:59 PM »
I was doing well, zero spend, until I hit the weekend and then everything went off the rails.  Ended up spending approximately $110.00 Canadian this weekend (WTF).  Some friends of mine came back from vacation and the social drinking got out of control.  Although, part of that was $20 on one martini (double WTF) at a hotel bar, which I ordered without looking at the price, and another $25 was two beers at an NHL hockey game.  The remaining $55 did come from one bar though.  Overall, the actual amount of drinks was not that bad, but the costs spiraled out of control.

Looks like I will be trying the cold turkey method, at least until I can counteract the spend from this weekend and get back on track to my goal of reducing spend by 75%. I've been 100% off coffee since January 5th using the cold turkey method.  The first day was hellish. 

As for cutting back on the social drinking, I'm just going to need to take up a hobby to keep my time occupied, maybe I'll finally sign up for Treehouse and learn some coding skills on the side.

OMG, that would be terrible.  You did not follow the advice to cut back slowly :).  It is so much easier on your head to reduce your consumption of coffee until you are ready physiologically.  If you find yourself slipping back try this method.  It works.  I am 7+ months now.

If you were watching the Leafs that is a good excuse to drink....but I guess you could be a Senator`s fan. 

I am curious.  How do you feel when the spending is going out of control?  I remember MMM describing it like he was getting sweats over buying an avocado or something that was not in the budget.  I can get a little this way so I am curious.
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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #96 on: January 09, 2017, 07:14:33 PM »
I used to work a rotational schedule and on my weeks off I would crank through a 6 pack or equivalent in a day without breaking a sweat.

Between bars and drinking at home I was clocking ~$300 a month.

About a year ago, I decided to quit smoking and found that I had about minimal self-control at avoiding nicotine while I drank.

I pretty much gave up drinking to succeed at quitting smoking. I'll have a beer or mixed drink occasionally with dinner (i.e. once or twice a month), but I don't miss at all how much I was I drinking, how much money it was costing me, or how crappy it made me feel when I drank too much.

Interesting.  I have only had 1 drink in 2017 including NYE and I am not really missing the drink at home.  You have to change your patterns though to be successful.  Habits are real.  Mine was always having a drink or two on Friday night after a week of work.  I am trying to break that habit.
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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #97 on: January 10, 2017, 08:27:20 AM »
Oops, spent another $9.99 on a bottle of wine yesterday.

I don't intend or feel the need to stop drinking entirely but.... Trader Joe's has perfectly good wine for less than this. I'm not wild about their 3-buck-chuck (though I will drink it), but they have a couple brands that are $4 or $5 that are good. I just have to be more disciplined about making the 1-hour-each-way trek on public transport to get to TJ's, rather than running to the World Market that's a block away from my work.

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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #98 on: January 10, 2017, 08:30:31 AM »
Went to a $5 movie at the cute dinner theatre last night, and since I'm not drinking, got tea instead of a beer. Was quite nice.

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Re: Slashing My Alcohol Spend by 75% starting now.
« Reply #99 on: January 10, 2017, 10:46:18 AM »
OMG, that would be terrible.  You did not follow the advice to cut back slowly :).  It is so much easier on your head to reduce your consumption of coffee until you are ready physiologically.  If you find yourself slipping back try this method.  It works.  I am 7+ months now.

If you were watching the Leafs that is a good excuse to drink....but I guess you could be a Senator`s fan. 

I am curious.  How do you feel when the spending is going out of control?  I remember MMM describing it like he was getting sweats over buying an avocado or something that was not in the budget.  I can get a little this way so I am curious.

Haha no, I wanted to get it all done at once.  1 day of excruciating headaches, followed by 1 day of general haziness, then the cravings mostly went away.  The hardest part is smelling it in the morning at home and the office and resisting reaching for a cup. 

I definitely beat myself up when spending gets out of control and feel pretty embarrassed when it happens, so I think I can relate to MMM on that front.  But once I put it in my spreadsheet and see how it lines up with my goal of a 75% reduction in alcohol spend it is motivation to try even harder the next week.