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« Reply #4700 on: April 19, 2021, 01:31:12 PM »
Something I'm pretty proud of is working for 29 years at the same company and having perfect attendance.  I've never called in sick once.
This morning my wife got sick at work.  She was dizzy and had a fever.  It's my day off so I picked her up.  I took her to an walk in clinic to be Covid tested.  Yes, she's positive for Covid.  I got myself tested.  I'm also positive for Covid. I don't feel particularly bad.  I called my company nurse.  First she said stay home till April 30th.  An hour later she called back and told me to report to work my next shift, that's Wednesday.  I reminded her my test was positive as well as my wife's.  Since we're both vaccinated they think everything is fine to return to work.  My perfect attendance goes on.  I think they are nuts.

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« Reply #4701 on: April 19, 2021, 02:03:47 PM »
Something I'm pretty proud of is working for 29 years at the same company and having perfect attendance.  I've never called in sick once.
This morning my wife got sick at work.  She was dizzy and had a fever.  It's my day off so I picked her up.  I took her to an walk in clinic to be Covid tested.  Yes, she's positive for Covid.  I got myself tested.  I'm also positive for Covid. I don't feel particularly bad.  I called my company nurse.  First she said stay home till April 30th.  An hour later she called back and told me to report to work my next shift, that's Wednesday.  I reminded her my test was positive as well as my wife's.  Since we're both vaccinated they think everything is fine to return to work.  My perfect attendance goes on.  I think they are nuts.

You have FU money.    You could just say no.   It's ok to do that, it's even a Republican thing to do.   :)


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« Reply #4702 on: April 19, 2021, 02:40:14 PM »
Something I'm pretty proud of is working for 29 years at the same company and having perfect attendance.  I've never called in sick once.
This morning my wife got sick at work.  She was dizzy and had a fever.  It's my day off so I picked her up.  I took her to an walk in clinic to be Covid tested.  Yes, she's positive for Covid.  I got myself tested.  I'm also positive for Covid. I don't feel particularly bad.  I called my company nurse.  First she said stay home till April 30th.  An hour later she called back and told me to report to work my next shift, that's Wednesday.  I reminded her my test was positive as well as my wife's.  Since we're both vaccinated they think everything is fine to return to work.  My perfect attendance goes on.  I think they are nuts.

Would you mind telling us when did you and your wife receive what vaccine, and at what stage ( 1st shot, 2nd shot)? That information might help us adjust our behavior and plans.

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« Reply #4703 on: April 19, 2021, 02:43:28 PM »
Something I'm pretty proud of is working for 29 years at the same company and having perfect attendance.  I've never called in sick once.
This morning my wife got sick at work.  She was dizzy and had a fever.  It's my day off so I picked her up.  I took her to an walk in clinic to be Covid tested.  Yes, she's positive for Covid.  I got myself tested.  I'm also positive for Covid. I don't feel particularly bad.  I called my company nurse.  First she said stay home till April 30th.  An hour later she called back and told me to report to work my next shift, that's Wednesday.  I reminded her my test was positive as well as my wife's.  Since we're both vaccinated they think everything is fine to return to work.  My perfect attendance goes on.  I think they are nuts.

Would you mind telling us when did you and your wife receive what vaccine, and at what stage ( 1st shot, 2nd shot)? That information might help us adjust our behavior and plans.

I took the Johnson and Johnson vaccine which is one shit only exactly one month ago.  My wife took the one shot Johnson and Johnson vaccine 9 days ago.  I feel fine but tested positive today.  My wife has fever and dizziness.  She also tested positive today.

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« Reply #4704 on: April 19, 2021, 02:57:57 PM »
Something I'm pretty proud of is working for 29 years at the same company and having perfect attendance.  I've never called in sick once.
This morning my wife got sick at work.  She was dizzy and had a fever.  It's my day off so I picked her up.  I took her to an walk in clinic to be Covid tested.  Yes, she's positive for Covid.  I got myself tested.  I'm also positive for Covid. I don't feel particularly bad.  I called my company nurse.  First she said stay home till April 30th.  An hour later she called back and told me to report to work my next shift, that's Wednesday.  I reminded her my test was positive as well as my wife's.  Since we're both vaccinated they think everything is fine to return to work.  My perfect attendance goes on.  I think they are nuts.

Would you mind telling us when did you and your wife receive what vaccine, and at what stage ( 1st shot, 2nd shot)? That information might help us adjust our behavior and plans.

I took the Johnson and Johnson vaccine which is one shit only exactly one month ago.  My wife took the one shot Johnson and Johnson vaccine 9 days ago.  I feel fine but tested positive today.  My wife has fever and dizziness.  She also tested positive today.
I have read conflicting reports, but my understanding is that you can still get covid even with the vaccine, it's just your symptoms will be milder.   Your company nurse needs to be strung up to suggest anyone testing positive for Covid come in to work.  IMHO, anyway.
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« Reply #4705 on: April 19, 2021, 04:03:22 PM »
Something I'm pretty proud of is working for 29 years at the same company and having perfect attendance.  I've never called in sick once.
This morning my wife got sick at work.  She was dizzy and had a fever.  It's my day off so I picked her up.  I took her to an walk in clinic to be Covid tested.  Yes, she's positive for Covid.  I got myself tested.  I'm also positive for Covid. I don't feel particularly bad.  I called my company nurse.  First she said stay home till April 30th.  An hour later she called back and told me to report to work my next shift, that's Wednesday.  I reminded her my test was positive as well as my wife's.  Since we're both vaccinated they think everything is fine to return to work.  My perfect attendance goes on.  I think they are nuts.

Would you mind telling us when did you and your wife receive what vaccine, and at what stage ( 1st shot, 2nd shot)? That information might help us adjust our behavior and plans.

I took the Johnson and Johnson vaccine which is one shit only exactly one month ago.  My wife took the one shot Johnson and Johnson vaccine 9 days ago.  I feel fine but tested positive today.  My wife has fever and dizziness.  She also tested positive today.
I have read conflicting reports, but my understand is that you can still get covid even with the vaccine, it's just your systems will be milder.   Your company nurse needs to be strung up to suggest anyone testing positive for Covid come in to work.  IMHO, anyway.

Wasnt j&j at a much lower effectiveness than others?  I mean, if itís 60-80% effective, and you test positive, and your wife tests positive, and she has symptoms, then you probably have Covid and need to stay home. 

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« Reply #4706 on: April 19, 2021, 05:32:10 PM »
Bateaux:

If you have the Covid, you could give it to others.Twenty nine perfect years is fine, but if you got someone really sick, well, it kinda takes the shine off of it.

You seem to be a good guy and not really selfish like the media tells us the rich folks are.  Actually, all you people don't seem to fit the stereotype.

I had the double shot thing (not bourbon) and they told me the same thing.  You can still get it, but not as bad.  The vaccine will prevent a hospital stay.

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« Reply #4707 on: April 19, 2021, 05:34:50 PM »
Bateaux:

If you have the Covid, you could give it to others.Twenty nine perfect years is fine, but if you got someone really sick, well, it kinda takes the shine off of it.

You seem to be a good guy and not really selfish like the media tells us the rich folks are.  Actually, all you people don't seem to fit the stereotype.

I had the double shot thing (not bourbon) and they told me the same thing.  You can still get it, but not as bad.  The vaccine will prevent a hospital stay.

But it won't prevent a hospital stay or the death of an unvaccinated person you give Covid to.

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« Reply #4708 on: April 19, 2021, 06:50:27 PM »
Bateaux:

If you have the Covid, you could give it to others.Twenty nine perfect years is fine, but if you got someone really sick, well, it kinda takes the shine off of it.

You seem to be a good guy and not really selfish like the media tells us the rich folks are.  Actually, all you people don't seem to fit the stereotype.

I had the double shot thing (not bourbon) and they told me the same thing.  You can still get it, but not as bad.  The vaccine will prevent a hospital stay.

But it won't prevent a hospital stay or the death of an unvaccinated person you give Covid to.

They are in the process of trying to fire (not our FIRE) a coworker. I don't think they can afford to have me covered right now, so they are encouraging me to go to work even though Covid positive. 

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« Reply #4709 on: April 19, 2021, 07:15:18 PM »
Bateaux:

If you have the Covid, you could give it to others.Twenty nine perfect years is fine, but if you got someone really sick, well, it kinda takes the shine off of it.

You seem to be a good guy and not really selfish like the media tells us the rich folks are.  Actually, all you people don't seem to fit the stereotype.

I had the double shot thing (not bourbon) and they told me the same thing.  You can still get it, but not as bad.  The vaccine will prevent a hospital stay.

But it won't prevent a hospital stay or the death of an unvaccinated person you give Covid to.

They are in the process of trying to fire (not our FIRE) a coworker. I don't think they can afford to have me covered right now, so they are encouraging me to go to work even though Covid positive.

And after you make more people sick, they'll be less able to cover for you.

Fuck them.    This is a CLASSIC EXAMPLE of dumb-ass management decision making.    Don't take part in it.    Surely to Gawd you can recognize that.

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« Reply #4710 on: April 19, 2021, 07:16:15 PM »
Well - I guess that puts the onus on those in charge.  Their way or the highway.

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« Reply #4711 on: April 19, 2021, 07:40:18 PM »
Bateaux:

If you have the Covid, you could give it to others.Twenty nine perfect years is fine, but if you got someone really sick, well, it kinda takes the shine off of it.

You seem to be a good guy and not really selfish like the media tells us the rich folks are.  Actually, all you people don't seem to fit the stereotype.

I had the double shot thing (not bourbon) and they told me the same thing.  You can still get it, but not as bad.  The vaccine will prevent a hospital stay.

But it won't prevent a hospital stay or the death of an unvaccinated person you give Covid to.

They are in the process of trying to fire (not our FIRE) a coworker. I don't think they can afford to have me covered right now, so they are encouraging me to go to work even though Covid positive.

And after you make more people sick, they'll be less able to cover for you.

Fuck them.    This is a CLASSIC EXAMPLE of dumb-ass management decision making.    Don't take part in it.    Surely to Gawd you can recognize that.




Ditto!!

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« Reply #4712 on: April 19, 2021, 07:54:22 PM »
There is a chance I'll be interviewed by lawyers if they do fire the coworker.  Either the corporate lawyers or the coworker's.  I love being in this position actually.  I can't wait to testify that at the same time they are trying to fire my coworker over some absolute bullshit, they forced me into work with a positive Covid test the same week. 
Having millions gives you a place of fortitude.  The NYSE traded conglomerate I work for has zero respect for us.  They have pissed me off.  Can't wait to see how it goes. 

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« Reply #4713 on: April 20, 2021, 07:45:19 AM »
There is a chance I'll be interviewed by lawyers if they do fire the coworker.  Either the corporate lawyers or the coworker's.  I love being in this position actually.  I can't wait to testify that at the same time they are trying to fire my coworker over some absolute bullshit, they forced me into work with a positive Covid test the same week. 
Having millions gives you a place of fortitude.  The NYSE traded conglomerate I work for has zero respect for us.  They have pissed me off.  Can't wait to see how it goes.

Their kind always win.  The rules are in their favor.  They help write them.  Good Luck!

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« Reply #4714 on: April 20, 2021, 08:33:39 AM »
Never what I expect clicking on threads...these days

Holy shit.  This has to be the dumbest employer Iíve read about in modern times.

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« Reply #4715 on: April 20, 2021, 10:39:15 AM »
Never what I expect clicking on threads...these days

Holy shit.  This has to be the dumbest employer Iíve read about in modern times.

It's my job to keep things interesting here.  It gets boring just posting our net worth of the week.

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« Reply #4716 on: April 20, 2021, 03:49:29 PM »
The news media reports frivolous lawsuits.  They lead the populace to believe they have recourse in many areas where they often have little to none.  One such area is employment.  I believe most employees of corporations are "At will" employees.  Here's a blurb of what that is all about:

"At-will means that an employer can terminate an employee at any time for any reason, except an illegal one, or for no reason without incurring legal liability.  Likewise, an employee is free to leave a job at any time for any or no reason with no adverse legal consequences."

Here's a link with more on this:

https://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/at-will-employment-overview.aspx

Yeh - this FIRE thing allows you to tell them to suck eggs or use more colorful language as I have done in the past.

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« Reply #4717 on: April 20, 2021, 04:07:31 PM »
The news media reports frivolous lawsuits.  They lead the populace to believe they have recourse in many areas where they often have little to none.  One such area is employment.  I believe most employees of corporations are "At will" employees.  Here's a blurb of what that is all about:

"At-will means that an employer can terminate an employee at any time for any reason, except an illegal one, or for no reason without incurring legal liability.  Likewise, an employee is free to leave a job at any time for any or no reason with no adverse legal consequences."

Here's a link with more on this:

https://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/at-will-employment-overview.aspx

Yeh - this FIRE thing allows you to tell them to suck eggs or use more colorful language as I have done in the past.




Self-employment is another good option.  ;)

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« Reply #4718 on: April 20, 2021, 04:47:59 PM »
@Bateaux - sorry to hear you and your wife have tested positive, but thank you for sharing. Please keep us up to date. Hoping that your experience is mild and at least the vaccine protects you free from more significant symptoms.

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« Reply #4719 on: April 20, 2021, 05:49:08 PM »
The news media reports frivolous lawsuits.  They lead the populace to believe they have recourse in many areas where they often have little to none.  One such area is employment.  I believe most employees of corporations are "At will" employees.  Here's a blurb of what that is all about:

"At-will means that an employer can terminate an employee at any time for any reason, except an illegal one, or for no reason without incurring legal liability.  Likewise, an employee is free to leave a job at any time for any or no reason with no adverse legal consequences."

Here's a link with more on this:

https://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/at-will-employment-overview.aspx

Yeh - this FIRE thing allows you to tell them to suck eggs or use more colorful language as I have done in the past.
the first time I had a US colleague tell me that they lived in an 'at-will' state I was floored.....long term employees can be walked out the door at the employers whim....holy f-ing shit!!!!!   I live in a country that provides employees with far more protections. 

first paragraph of the link you provided:
"Employment relationships are presumed to be ďat-willĒ in all U.S. states except Montana.  The U.S. is one of a handful of countries where employment is predominantly at-will.  Most countries throughout the world allow employers to dismiss employees only for cause.   Some reasons given for our retention of the at-will presumption include respect for freedom of contract, employer deference, and the belief that both employers and employees favor an at-will employment relationship over job security.   "

Most countries in the world protect employees far better than that.....If an employer wants to lay someone off, or let them go without cause, they have to pay.   Depending on the circumstance it can we as little as a week per year of service to more than a month per year of service.   And older employees with a specialised skillset will be at the higher end - as the courts recognize that a 50-60 something year old in a highly skilled but niche market will have trouble finding equivalent employment.


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« Reply #4720 on: April 21, 2021, 05:22:44 AM »
@Bateaux - sorry to hear you and your wife have tested positive, but thank you for sharing. Please keep us up to date. Hoping that your experience is mild and at least the vaccine protects you free from more significant symptoms.

Decided I'm going to stay home from work.  Woke up with a cough this morning.  No fever.  My wife is feeling a little better.  I'm sure we'll both clear in a few days.

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« Reply #4721 on: April 21, 2021, 07:37:08 AM »
@Bateaux - sorry to hear you and your wife have tested positive, but thank you for sharing. Please keep us up to date. Hoping that your experience is mild and at least the vaccine protects you free from more significant symptoms.

Decided I'm going to stay home from work.  Woke up with a cough this morning.  No fever.  My wife is feeling a little better.  I'm sure we'll both clear in a few days.
Even if you take it as vacation, I'm proud a' you, man! Go, Bateaux!!!!

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« Reply #4722 on: April 21, 2021, 04:14:40 PM »
Good call :)

For what it's worth, thank you on behalf of all the unvaccinated and recently-vaccinated folks out there!

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« Reply #4723 on: April 22, 2021, 06:43:29 PM »
Hope your bout with the Rona is short and mild, Bateaux. 

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« Reply #4724 on: April 24, 2021, 09:44:58 PM »
Hi everyone! I'm so excited to be able to join the big kids' table! :D This past week, I've finally managed to muscle past $2MM in personal LNW without counting home equity or the SO's assets. I keep adding up the numbers and expecting some sort of math error, but somehow, it's actually real (...at least for now). Which is just unreal. :)

All I can say is, I am so thankful to my prescient 21-year-old self for deciding to go all-in on compound interest. The past fifteen years of shoveling every single spare penny into Vanguard until I'm blue in the face has finally paid off.

I'm gonna go sit over there in the corner now... far, far away from Bateaux. ;) (But in all seriousness -- I hope Bateaux and wife make a speedy recovery!) I'm fully expecting market fluctuations to dunk me back under in the very near future, but I'm gonna enjoy this multimillionaire status for as long as it lasts. :)

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« Reply #4725 on: April 25, 2021, 05:44:51 AM »
Hi everyone! I'm so excited to be able to join the big kids' table! :D This past week, I've finally managed to muscle past $2MM in personal LNW without counting home equity or the SO's assets. I keep adding up the numbers and expecting some sort of math error, but somehow, it's actually real (...at least for now). Which is just unreal. :)

All I can say is, I am so thankful to my prescient 21-year-old self for deciding to go all-in on compound interest. The past fifteen years of shoveling every single spare penny into Vanguard until I'm blue in the face has finally paid off.

I'm gonna go sit over there in the corner now... far, far away from Bateaux. ;) (But in all seriousness -- I hope Bateaux and wife make a speedy recovery!) I'm fully expecting market fluctuations to dunk me back under in the very near future, but I'm gonna enjoy this multimillionaire status for as long as it lasts. :)

It is said that Albert Einstein called compound interest the eighth wonder of the world.

Here's a very basic story quoting that.  https://www.inc.com/jim-schleckser/why-einstein-considered-compound-interest-most-powerful-force-in-universe.html

I question the value of saving every spare penny in one's youth, but I guess it worked for you.


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« Reply #4726 on: April 25, 2021, 03:08:29 PM »
I'm doing much better with Covid.  Was able to bike 10 miles Thursday and 40 miles Friday.  Never got bear any people but pumped a lot of air in my lungs.
My wife is having a rough time.  Hopefully she'll be okay soon. 

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« Reply #4727 on: April 25, 2021, 09:21:30 PM »
I question the value of saving every spare penny in one's youth, but I guess it worked for you.

Most people would absolutely agree with you. How does that saying go again? "Wisdom is wasted on the old, and youth is wasted on the young"?

I'm doing much better with Covid.  Was able to bike 10 miles Thursday and 40 miles Friday.  Never got bear any people but pumped a lot of air in my lungs.
My wife is having a rough time.  Hopefully she'll be okay soon. 

I'm so glad to hear that you're feeling good enough to bike, and fresh air is lovely. But it's also okay to take it easy for a bit. I know someone who had cardiac arrhythmias after contracting Covid. Is your wife a candidate for monoclonal antibody treatment?

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« Reply #4728 on: April 26, 2021, 02:35:49 AM »
I'm doing much better with Covid.  Was able to bike 10 miles Thursday and 40 miles Friday.  Never got bear any people but pumped a lot of air in my lungs.
My wife is having a rough time.  Hopefully she'll be okay soon.

Very glad to see you on the mend! Best wishes for your wife too.

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« Reply #4729 on: April 26, 2021, 12:30:56 PM »
I'm doing much better with Covid.  Was able to bike 10 miles Thursday and 40 miles Friday.  Never got bear any people but pumped a lot of air in my lungs.
My wife is having a rough time.  Hopefully she'll be okay soon.

Glad you guys are doing better!

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« Reply #4730 on: April 27, 2021, 05:44:06 AM »
In anticipation of freeing up W2 cash flow, Iíve been transitioning my five monthly credit card donations to some charities to being funded with my DAF (which I fund via donations of appreciated securities).  Itís going to be a process because it looks like 3 of them Iím going to have to call pay pal about to make the switch.

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« Reply #4731 on: April 27, 2021, 07:27:42 AM »
I'm doing much better with Covid.  Was able to bike 10 miles Thursday and 40 miles Friday.  Never got bear any people but pumped a lot of air in my lungs.
My wife is having a rough time.  Hopefully she'll be okay soon.

Glad you guys are doing better!

Rode another 35 miles yesterday.  If retirement is like quarantine, I'll need to increase the bike tire budget

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« Reply #4732 on: April 27, 2021, 08:24:19 PM »
No biking today.  Did a 12 mile walk instead.  I've got to start walking more. 

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« Reply #4733 on: April 27, 2021, 09:41:11 PM »
No biking today.  Did a 12 mile walk instead.  I've got to start walking more.
Did eight miles at high altitude. Felt like twelve.

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« Reply #4734 on: April 28, 2021, 04:10:59 AM »
No biking today.  Did a 12 mile walk instead.  I've got to start walking more.
Did eight miles at high altitude. Felt like twelve.
An altitude eight is more than equal to a sea level twelve.  That's awesome Dicey.  You must really be fit.

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« Reply #4735 on: April 28, 2021, 05:07:25 AM »
No biking today.  Did a 12 mile walk instead.  I've got to start walking more.
Did eight miles at high altitude. Felt like twelve.
An altitude eight is more than equal to a sea level twelve.  That's awesome Dicey.  You must really be fit.

I was at 7,000 feet in Arizona last week. compared to my normal 60 foot elevation in Florida. the difference was crazy!! not used to that sort of change anymore!!
respect to anyone hitting big mileage at those levels. I did not do 8 miles or 12.. more like 2 :(


@Bateaux sorry I didn't reply earlier - was out of town. Florida meetup at some point - that'd be cool. have to look into a suitable meeting point north of tampa maybe? coastal? no Idea when though. 

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« Reply #4736 on: April 28, 2021, 06:31:18 AM »
No biking today.  Did a 12 mile walk instead.  I've got to start walking more.
Did eight miles at high altitude. Felt like twelve.
An altitude eight is more than equal to a sea level twelve.  That's awesome Dicey.  You must really be fit.

I was at 7,000 feet in Arizona last week. compared to my normal 60 foot elevation in Florida. the difference was crazy!! not used to that sort of change anymore!!
respect to anyone hitting big mileage at those levels. I did not do 8 miles or 12.. more like 2 :(


@Bateaux sorry I didn't reply earlier - was out of town. Florida meetup at some point - that'd be cool. have to look into a suitable meeting point north of tampa maybe? coastal? no Idea when though.

All you folks are tough.  I used to get bad headaches when I hiked in the North Cascades a few years back.  I didn't understand about the altitude thing.  You are all inspiring me to do more.

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« Reply #4737 on: April 28, 2021, 08:53:14 AM »
No biking today.  Did a 12 mile walk instead.  I've got to start walking more.
Did eight miles at high altitude. Felt like twelve.
An altitude eight is more than equal to a sea level twelve.  That's awesome Dicey.  You must really be fit.

I was at 7,000 feet in Arizona last week. compared to my normal 60 foot elevation in Florida. the difference was crazy!! not used to that sort of change anymore!!
respect to anyone hitting big mileage at those levels. I did not do 8 miles or 12.. more like 2 :(


@Bateaux sorry I didn't reply earlier - was out of town. Florida meetup at some point - that'd be cool. have to look into a suitable meeting point north of tampa maybe? coastal? no Idea when though.

I'm not there permanently yet.  We'll make it a future event. 

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« Reply #4738 on: April 28, 2021, 08:56:44 AM »
No biking today.  Did a 12 mile walk instead.  I've got to start walking more.
Did eight miles at high altitude. Felt like twelve.
An altitude eight is more than equal to a sea level twelve.  That's awesome Dicey.  You must really be fit.

I was at 7,000 feet in Arizona last week. compared to my normal 60 foot elevation in Florida. the difference was crazy!! not used to that sort of change anymore!!
respect to anyone hitting big mileage at those levels. I did not do 8 miles or 12.. more like 2 :(


@Bateaux sorry I didn't reply earlier - was out of town. Florida meetup at some point - that'd be cool. have to look into a suitable meeting point north of tampa maybe? coastal? no Idea when though.

I'm not there permanently yet.  We'll make it a future event.

No problem!
I still have this anchor tied to me called work as well.... for now..

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« Reply #4739 on: April 28, 2021, 09:50:18 AM »
No biking today.  Did a 12 mile walk instead.  I've got to start walking more.
Did eight miles at high altitude. Felt like twelve.
An altitude eight is more than equal to a sea level twelve.  That's awesome Dicey.  You must really be fit.
We're at 8,000 feet. We take chlorophyll for about a week before the trip, which helps. We also drove this time, which gave us two days to adjust. We'll be here for two weeks, so next week should be a lot more comfortable. The highest peak here is 11,200. We did it last trip, but we're kinda happy the mountain just closed and there's still too much snow for hiking. Next time.

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« Reply #4740 on: April 28, 2021, 11:47:25 AM »
I question the value of saving every spare penny in one's youth, but I guess it worked for you.

Most people would absolutely agree with you. How does that saying go again? "Wisdom is wasted on the old, and youth is wasted on the young"?

I think aggressively saving during one's youth is where it's at! Plus, you're only 36 - that's still youth in my opinion! Or maybe I'm just saying that to make myself feel better since I'm 37. ;) Seriously though, saving 2MM in liquid net worth on your own by the age of 36? That is so bad ass! HUGE congratulations! We reached 2MM in liquid net worth earlier this year, but my husband and I have joint finances, so I didn't do it alone. At the age of 37, I feel so much levity and freedom where it comes to finances. Because of what I did in my 20s (like you, shoveling every spare penny into Vanguard funds), we could probably quit our jobs today and be fine. But we both generally like our jobs, and I no longer intend to RE (he never intended to RE), so our focus is really on FI. It feels like the hard work is largely done from a financial perspective, and everything is kind of automated at this point. How do you feel? Do you feel a sense of levity and security?

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« Reply #4741 on: April 28, 2021, 02:37:02 PM »
I question the value of saving every spare penny in one's youth, but I guess it worked for you.

Most people would absolutely agree with you. How does that saying go again? "Wisdom is wasted on the old, and youth is wasted on the young"?

I think aggressively saving during one's youth is where it's at! Plus, you're only 36 - that's still youth in my opinion! Or maybe I'm just saying that to make myself feel better since I'm 37. ;) Seriously though, saving 2MM in liquid net worth on your own by the age of 36? That is so bad ass! HUGE congratulations! We reached 2MM in liquid net worth earlier this year, but my husband and I have joint finances, so I didn't do it alone. At the age of 37, I feel so much levity and freedom where it comes to finances. Because of what I did in my 20s (like you, shoveling every spare penny into Vanguard funds), we could probably quit our jobs today and be fine. But we both generally like our jobs, and I no longer intend to RE (he never intended to RE), so our focus is really on FI. It feels like the hard work is largely done from a financial perspective, and everything is kind of automated at this point. How do you feel? Do you feel a sense of levity and security?

You are probably correct.  I wish I had been in a position to tell my employer when I was 36 to take a long hike to unmentionable places.  And,.....all the years of compounding that money in the years to come.

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« Reply #4742 on: April 28, 2021, 02:52:59 PM »
The altitude thing is tough. In the beginning-ish part of my career I travelled to the Denver area on a regular basis for work. I even lived and worked there twice, once for a summer, once for 7 months. It was disheartening to think I was in good shape in CA and then find myself huffing and puffing going up a flight of stairs in Denver. After moving back there was about a week where running in CA felt like I was dancing on clouds, it was so easy. Very understandable why the olympic training facility is in the mountains up there.

I haven't hear of the chlorophyll thing before, @Dicey . That is interesting. The only thing I seem to remember is someone advising running between telephone poles - jog from one pole to the next, sprint from the 2nd to the 3rd, and keep alternating. I never put it to the test myself.

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« Reply #4743 on: April 28, 2021, 03:42:36 PM »
I am very bad at altitude.  I tend to get nauseous (even up European mountains, which are generally not that tall) and very woozy/dizzy even at quite low altitudes that don't affect people I'm travelling with. 

I remember arriving in Jasper (less than 4,000ft) with a friend on a student holiday, splitting up in the supermarket with half the list each, and her finding me still in the vegetable aisle about 20 minutes later with a carrot in one hand and a plastic bag in the other, not quite being able to figure out how to put the carrot in the bag.  I did acclimatise enough by the next day to do some walking and rafting though!

We have friends in Denver and hope to visit in the next few years now our kids are old enough to consider a long flight... but I have gone seriously loopy the one time I visited Breckenridge (quite a bit higher right?) - basically spent most of the trip sleeping - so hopefully Denver will be a bit more manageable!  Maybe I should try the chlorophyll thing.

I hope Mrs Bateaux is doing better @Bateaux ?

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« Reply #4744 on: April 28, 2021, 06:54:10 PM »
I am very bad at altitude.  I tend to get nauseous (even up European mountains, which are generally not that tall) and very woozy/dizzy even at quite low altitudes that don't affect people I'm travelling with. 

I remember arriving in Jasper (less than 4,000ft) with a friend on a student holiday, splitting up in the supermarket with half the list each, and her finding me still in the vegetable aisle about 20 minutes later with a carrot in one hand and a plastic bag in the other, not quite being able to figure out how to put the carrot in the bag.  I did acclimatise enough by the next day to do some walking and rafting though!

We have friends in Denver and hope to visit in the next few years now our kids are old enough to consider a long flight... but I have gone seriously loopy the one time I visited Breckenridge (quite a bit higher right?) - basically spent most of the trip sleeping - so hopefully Denver will be a bit more manageable!  Maybe I should try the chlorophyll thing.

I hope Mrs Bateaux is doing better @Bateaux ?
She's doing much better now.  Thank you for asking.

Speaking of altitude.  I hope to climb Kilimanjaro.  Over 19,000 feet.  Probably will be after full retirement.  I'll probably spend a few weeks in the rocky mountains prior to doing so.  Then fly from Denver.

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« Reply #4745 on: April 29, 2021, 07:47:26 AM »


I hope Mrs Bateaux is doing better @Bateaux ?
She's doing much better now.  Thank you for asking.

Speaking of altitude.  I hope to climb Kilimanjaro.  Over 19,000 feet.  Probably will be after full retirement.  I'll probably spend a few weeks in the rocky mountains prior to doing so.  Then fly from Denver.

My husband is tackling mountian hiking/climbing in our FIR years.   We had Mt Kenya in the works for 2020, but you know how that went.  Also there's a peak near Marrakesh in the Atlas Mountains that was coming up on the trip plans.  I'm not sure when we'll go abroad again, but the motivation is high.  Since we didn't retire early, we've got to keep the pedal to the metal!   Recently he's done Mt Whitney, a few high peaks in So Cal, and just got a lottery for Half Dome in Yosemite.   He needs to acclimate slowly or he feels a bit nauseaous.  I'm not a climber, but I'm eyeing a horse riding trip in Mongolia when the world opens back up.   FI rocks!    Who says retirement is boring?  Not us! 

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« Reply #4746 on: April 29, 2021, 08:14:44 AM »
Things don't change.  All you mountain climbers.  When I was a kid I knew people that wanted to stop working and get high too.

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« Reply #4747 on: April 29, 2021, 09:15:49 AM »


I hope Mrs Bateaux is doing better @Bateaux ?
She's doing much better now.  Thank you for asking.

Speaking of altitude.  I hope to climb Kilimanjaro.  Over 19,000 feet.  Probably will be after full retirement.  I'll probably spend a few weeks in the rocky mountains prior to doing so.  Then fly from Denver.

My husband is tackling mountian hiking/climbing in our FIR years.   We had Mt Kenya in the works for 2020, but you know how that went.  Also there's a peak near Marrakesh in the Atlas Mountains that was coming up on the trip plans.  I'm not sure when we'll go abroad again, but the motivation is high.  Since we didn't retire early, we've got to keep the pedal to the metal!   Recently he's done Mt Whitney, a few high peaks in So Cal, and just got a lottery for Half Dome in Yosemite.   He needs to acclimate slowly or he feels a bit nauseaous.  I'm not a climber, but I'm eyeing a horse riding trip in Mongolia when the world opens back up.   FI rocks!    Who says retirement is boring?  Not us!

That's awesome.  I love being part of a group as active as you all are.
 My last 14er was in 2016.  There have been a few things in the way since then.  A major flood of our home.  Then the purchase of the Florida house.  Then Covid.  It's still possible I'll get out west this year.   My years of going to altitude are getting short.  Being off these two weeks with quarantine have been good.  The 790 days till retirement are passing very quickly.  I can't imagine how fast retirement days will pass.

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« Reply #4748 on: April 29, 2021, 06:23:33 PM »
Half Dome is a trip. I hiked it three times in college before the permits were required. Take leather gloves for the cables. Maybe even a harness or belt with two clip in points. You donít really need to clip in (I never did, but I was young and invincible), but it is possible to fall and die.  A friend was up there when someone tumbled down between the cables, hit his head, and didnít wake up.

I donít mean to scare you. Itís a fun adventure. Enjoy!

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« Reply #4749 on: April 29, 2021, 08:14:46 PM »
In general I seem to acclimate to altitude pretty quickly.  I wonder if itís the years of competitive swimming as a kid?  I hope the trend continues.

In other news, I had a semi interview for our San Francisco spot.  I had about 20 seconds to prepare.  I think I did good enough.  Did find out the office is looking to move to Walnut Creek, so now Iím back looking harder at Oakland again.