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« Reply #550 on: April 01, 2015, 12:40:32 AM »
Thanks for the tips on replanting this bounty of green onions! They grew well 2 doors away so I'm hopeful they'll grow well at my place too. I have NO idea of my soil quality other than for 2 years now I've put 3 or 4 bags of Home Depot mushroom manure into my garden and stirred it around :-)

I need to pick the brains of my master gardener neighbour! Next, she will send over the biggest, fattest radishes I've ever seen .. at least she did last year! I'm starting some "Artisan Bread in 5 Minutes a Day" tomorrow to send over a fresh loaf since they drool over my breads as much as I drool over their garden bounty!

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« Reply #551 on: April 01, 2015, 04:23:23 AM »
Does anyone have any luck growing root vegetables...4 years in a row and I've tried beets, carrots, onions, rutabega etc and NOTHING grows, I've done it in ground, raised bed, in a planter and I never get anything but greens.  Any ideas?
Sun and moisture and the soil needs to not be too rich - lime it as well.

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« Reply #552 on: April 01, 2015, 09:57:03 AM »
"I've started looking into another fruit tree for our front yard.  We have a blank spot, and I think a tree would work well.  I want to get a "snack" fruit tree.  My DH wants to get a "fruit salad" tree, like this https://www.fruitsaladtrees.com/. "

Ooooooooo, I have my name on a waiting list with another company (all organic) for one of the stone fruit and one of the apples.  Supposedly guaranteed to thrive in my 5b area.

Anyone else tried these?

 

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« Reply #553 on: April 01, 2015, 10:13:15 AM »
"I've started looking into another fruit tree for our front yard.  We have a blank spot, and I think a tree would work well.  I want to get a "snack" fruit tree.  My DH wants to get a "fruit salad" tree, like this https://www.fruitsaladtrees.com/. "

Ooooooooo, I have my name on a waiting list with another company (all organic) for one of the stone fruit and one of the apples.  Supposedly guaranteed to thrive in my 5b area.

Anyone else tried these?

You can buy them right now at Lowes for 55 bucks (I'm in 7b so maybe a little later shipping up by you), I just bought a 6 graft cherry to go with my other cherries.  It's shipped from a nursery next to my mothers house that I've been to many times and she's had good luck with her trees that she's gotten from them.  They have them in espelior too for the same price.  The nursery by my charges 125 and up for the (literally) exact same trees.

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« Reply #554 on: April 01, 2015, 10:17:00 AM »
One thing to note about them is to make sure the grafted varieties all have similar bloom dates if you don't have any other pollinator trees, more grafts are usually better too in case one doesn't make it you still have a cross pollinator. 

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« Reply #555 on: April 01, 2015, 10:37:23 AM »


You can buy them right now at Lowes for 55 bucks (I'm in 7b so maybe a little later shipping up by you), I just bought a 6 graft cherry to go with my other cherries.  It's shipped from a nursery next to my mothers house that I've been to many times and she's had good luck with her trees that she's gotten from them.  They have them in espelior too for the same price.  The nursery by my charges 125 and up for the (literally) exact same trees.
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Thanks Mish, I don't buy fruit trees or bushes from Lowe's or Menard's any more because . . . firstly - all have failed, secondly - I've been told that even tho certain things are marked as being hearty in your zone, they're incorrectly marked for sales purposes.  But if you and your mom have had luck gods bless!  How are your original cherries doing?

Blueberries anyone?

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« Reply #557 on: April 01, 2015, 11:06:31 AM »


You can buy them right now at Lowes for 55 bucks (I'm in 7b so maybe a little later shipping up by you), I just bought a 6 graft cherry to go with my other cherries.  It's shipped from a nursery next to my mothers house that I've been to many times and she's had good luck with her trees that she's gotten from them.  They have them in espelior too for the same price.  The nursery by my charges 125 and up for the (literally) exact same trees.

Thanks Mish, I don't buy fruit trees or bushes from Lowe's or Menard's any more because . . . firstly - all have failed, secondly - I've been told that even tho certain things are marked as being hearty in your zone, they're incorrectly marked for sales purposes.  But if you and your mom have had luck gods bless!  How are your original cherries doing?

Blueberries anyone?
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The other cherries are doing great, I picked them up a couple of years ago so I'm hoping for some cherries this year, but they've now made it through two winters and have gotten some good growth on them, ones an espaliar.  I've definitely noticed the mis marking at Lowes, but I usually head there knowing what varieties are hardy for the area (we move a lot so I have to research everything before I put anything in since I've lived in like pretty much EVERY zone out there lol)

Check out Backyard Berry Plants for your blueberry bushes...warning, the site is dangerous to your wallet.  I bought 6 a number of years ago and they did epic last year.  I lost one this winter but it was my own fault due to a drainage issue that caused water to pool there.  Also gotten some gorgeous raspberries that did pretty well in their second year and I'm expecting to do gangbuster this year due to the insane number of canes they shot up last year.

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« Reply #558 on: April 01, 2015, 11:08:40 AM »

Blueberries anyone?


Blueberries blooming here, but I can't take any credit; they're wild natives. :-)

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« Reply #559 on: April 01, 2015, 01:18:11 PM »


You can buy them right now at Lowes for 55 bucks (I'm in 7b so maybe a little later shipping up by you), I just bought a 6 graft cherry to go with my other cherries.  It's shipped from a nursery next to my mothers house that I've been to many times and she's had good luck with her trees that she's gotten from them.  They have them in espelior too for the same price.  The nursery by my charges 125 and up for the (literally) exact same trees.

Thanks Mish, I don't buy fruit trees or bushes from Lowe's or Menard's any more because . . . firstly - all have failed, secondly - I've been told that even tho certain things are marked as being hearty in your zone, they're incorrectly marked for sales purposes.  But if you and your mom have had luck gods bless!  How are your original cherries doing?

Blueberries anyone?

The other cherries are doing great, I picked them up a couple of years ago so I'm hoping for some cherries this year, but they've now made it through two winters and have gotten some good growth on them, ones an espaliar.  I've definitely noticed the mis marking at Lowes, but I usually head there knowing what varieties are hardy for the area (we move a lot so I have to research everything before I put anything in since I've lived in like pretty much EVERY zone out there lol)

Check out Backyard Berry Plants for your blueberry bushes...warning, the site is dangerous to your wallet.  I bought 6 a number of years ago and they did epic last year.  I lost one this winter but it was my own fault due to a drainage issue that caused water to pool there.  Also gotten some gorgeous raspberries that did pretty well in their second year and I'm expecting to do gangbuster this year due to the insane number of canes they shot up last year.
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I'll check it out (Backyard Berry Plants).   (Dangerous you say . . . uh oh)

Not so much mislabeled (Lowe's and Menard's) by accident but pretty much on purpose to sell and I'm kinda sorta stupid so didn't research as much as I should have.

Thank you!

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« Reply #560 on: April 01, 2015, 02:00:44 PM »
I tend not to have much joy with multigrafted trees. I have bought several double grafted trees in the past. There have been two problems.

One side tends to grow faster than the other and takes over. I recently read that you should prune back the slower growing side so that the plant puts more energy into this side. This is counter-intuitive and I have probably always done it the other way round.

Secondly, after a few years the secondary graft falls off! The graft is always a weak point, and on the trees I have had, I have come out and found it blown off by the wind.

After having these problems, I have taken to growing apples in cordons, which means you have a large variety of apples, but each is a separate tree. I also make sure I have very dwarf stock, so that the trees don't grow very big. Many large retailers don't bother to have very dwarf stock for their fruit trees, so the trees grow too big. Also, the trees get pruned regularly. There is no point in having a fruit tree so tall you cannot pick fruit from it from the ground. 

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« Reply #561 on: April 01, 2015, 05:23:35 PM »
This is for beginning gardeners, since I am seeing comments about not being sure about soil.  Do a basic soil test.  Get soil (break it up so no lumps or stones), water, and a straight sided glass jar with a lid.  Fill the jar about half full with soil, then fill with water,  Shake, shake and shake some more.  Put someplace stable and let it settle out.  Sand will settle out in less than a minute, silt takes a few minutes, and clay takes a few days.  Organic material usually floats.  Look at your % of each size and Google "soil triangle" and see what kind of soil you have.  Plus you want 5-10% organic material as well as the inorganic particles. I do this when I am buying a truck load of topsoil, I want to see what I am getting before I spend all that money.

Or go by feel - take a handful of moist (not wet) soil and try to roll it out into a ribbon.  Collapses - sandy soil - moderate length fat ribbon - loam, long thin ribbon you could make a coiled clay pot with - clay.

Soil type and plants - sandy soils drain well, warm up fast in spring, and don't hold nutrients well.  Loam - ideal.  Clay - holds nutrients well, holds water well but dries to brick, slow to warm in spring and can drain badly.

Hope this is of help.

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« Reply #562 on: April 01, 2015, 06:16:51 PM »
Would love to see some pics of some of the gardens talked about here. You show me yours, I'll show you mine. ;)

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« Reply #563 on: April 01, 2015, 06:23:40 PM »
Would love to see some pics of some of the gardens talked about here. You show me yours, I'll show you mine. ;)

I'll post a pic once I get mine all planted! Of course, it'll just be a bunch of dirt... ;)

I found a great idea while googling "inexpensive containers for gardening" the other night - reusable shopping bags! The plastic waterproof ones. You just cut holes in the bottom, line with screening, and there you go. Cheap & easy planters. Luckily for me, I have a bunch of them lying around, including huge ones from IKEA and Sam's Club. Between those and the pots I already have, I shouldn't need to buy any more stuff to plant in.

Pots get washed & bag holes are getting cut tonight. Tomorrow, I'm going to head over to Home Depot for screening and soil, then get my seeds planted.

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« Reply #564 on: April 01, 2015, 06:52:10 PM »
Pictures of dirt are fine with me!

I'm lookin' for any ideas I can steal. :) I've got 8 beds of various dimensions more or less ready for planting, most of them in-ground raised beds. I'd like to make 2 more beds of the wood frame variety, perhaps a foot and half tall. I've got a phone call into a local island guy who says he has "organic" topsoil. I'm going to check out the source before I get him to deliver. I am going to try to construct these beds in the next couple of days, get em' filled with soil and then I am DONE, ready to plant. Then it's finger-crossing time. :)

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« Reply #565 on: April 01, 2015, 10:16:30 PM »
Would love to see some pics of some of the gardens talked about here. You show me yours, I'll show you mine. ;)

Oh twist my arm!  Here is my main garden.  I am developing a "heat garden" on the south side of the house that has hops and a fig (if it didn't croak this winter), and will have squash, melons, corn, sweet potatoes and eggplant.  Also, the second photo is my hugelkultur raised beds.  Not sure yet how they'll work as they were just built last summer and haven't had enough time for the wood in them to get nice and spongy yet.





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« Reply #566 on: April 01, 2015, 10:37:12 PM »
Wow, that looks amazing horsepoor! I am years from having my garden area looking so organized...and is that aluminum siding on the side of your raised bed structures? If so, what are the advantages, apart from the obvious longevity vs wood...

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« Reply #567 on: April 02, 2015, 12:48:31 AM »
This is for beginning gardeners, since I am seeing comments about not being sure about soil.  Do a basic soil test. 
Hope this is of help.

@RetiredAt63, Thank you SO much for this! So very helpful and will do my soil test within the next day or so! Its so funny when you know absolutely nothing about gardening ... I planted some seeds last fall and got delicious lettuce. The beets never came up. And this spring, it appears we are suddenly growing broccoli! hahaha!

I am planning to weed it this week, get some mushroom manure down (after the soil test) and purchased 3 seed types (its a small raised bed from the previous homeowner). I bought cucumbers, peas and lettuce this year. I also have the green onions from the neighbour to still get in there. Like @JonSnow, I'm also going to keep my fingers crossed!

And @horsepoor, your gardens are drool-worthy! WOW! Just WOW!

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« Reply #568 on: April 02, 2015, 07:19:11 AM »
Wow, that looks amazing horsepoor! I am years from having my garden area looking so organized...and is that aluminum siding on the side of your raised bed structures? If so, what are the advantages, apart from the obvious longevity vs wood...

Thanks, it has been gratifying seeing it come together - took about 4 years to get to this stage.  I did use galvanized siding on the taller raised beds.  It's pretty hot and dry in Boise in the summers, and I've noticed with my raised wood sided beds that water will run out from under the sides, so I wanted to sink the sides of these beds down into the ground to prevent any loss of water into the garden paths.   Also, for the taller raised beds, I would have had to use multiple boards to achieve the same height, and it would have been $$$ to build.  I really like them - they're so easy to tend, and the perfect height for sitting on the sides. 

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« Reply #569 on: April 02, 2015, 10:25:08 AM »
horsepoor, that's gorgeous!

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« Reply #570 on: April 03, 2015, 09:14:21 AM »
We're putting the tomatoes and peppers out in the garden today.  We sprouted them inside.  Wish me luck that they make it!  I'm hoping for tons of tomatoes.  I seriously underestimated how many canned tomatoes we needed for the winter and ran out in January.  Yikes.  Going for the gusto this year.


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« Reply #571 on: April 03, 2015, 11:11:43 AM »
Beautiful and organized, horsepoor! Well done and thanks for sharing.

How tall are you hoops, what are they made of, and did you DIY or buy? Last year, my broccoli flourished under my tool netting, but I used stakes and they were finicky.

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« Reply #572 on: April 03, 2015, 12:07:48 PM »
horsepoor - love the hugel-inspired raised beds!  I'm west of the Cascades and those galvanized sides are great idea - I may have to steal it!

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« Reply #573 on: April 03, 2015, 12:57:08 PM »
Beautiful and organized, horsepoor! Well done and thanks for sharing.

How tall are you hoops, what are they made of, and did you DIY or buy? Last year, my broccoli flourished under my tool netting, but I used stakes and they were finicky.

1/2" electrical conduit.  I use the 10' lengths and make them myself using a conduit bender.  I'd guess they end up about 3' tall when bent to fit a 4' bed and shoved into the ground enough to hold them in place.  I use electrical conduit for trellis supports too.  It's cheap and doesn't rot or get UV damage. 
Here is a better photo of the hoops;the white clips come from FarmTek, though I've since read a tip on using pieces of old hose, though I'm skeptical that they're rigid enough to hold up a:

Here is how I use the conduit with 2x4's for trellis (with jute twine here; I usually use wire mesh attached with zip ties over getting fancy tying twin into a netting).

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« Reply #574 on: April 03, 2015, 02:20:46 PM »
Can't compete with horespoor but here is my (currently completely unexciting) garden. Already lost some seedlings to animal damage, whee!

There are beds planned to continue wrapping around the house, just haven't dug those yet, so just one picture for now.

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« Reply #575 on: April 03, 2015, 02:50:32 PM »
Awesome! Thanks, horsepoor!

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« Reply #576 on: April 03, 2015, 02:50:39 PM »
Sorry horsepoor, but I fully intend to rip off some of your ideas. ;)

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« Reply #577 on: April 03, 2015, 03:11:47 PM »
Magnificent Horsepoor! And Wow Chief, looks like very bit of your yard will be food production.

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« Reply #578 on: April 03, 2015, 03:44:10 PM »
Chief, you are definitely maxing out what space you have. Where do your kids play? ;)

My wife has now joined me on the island and we just got our potato beds done. Have a dump truck delivering topsoil in about an hour - far more soil than we need, but it will keep till next year when the garden project expands in scope - and number of beds. This is really fun, and nothing has even sprouted yet.

I was really enjoying myself before, but things are so much better when my wing-man(wife) is working by my side.


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« Reply #579 on: April 04, 2015, 07:02:59 AM »
Wow, great to see all the pictures.
We were up to mid teens the last few days, back to -3C and snow this morning.

But, I am gardening - Lots of bell pepper plants started, garlic started (a bit last fall into a raised bed, the rest this spring into starter trays that are now outside under an inch of snow).  For decor, I bought a bunch of starter plugs (flower and foliage plants) at a local nursery and potted them up - and in a few weeks they will move up again to larger containers.  And this weekend I will start more flowers (mostly Cosmos and Sweet Alyssum, because I use them in quantity and that gets expensive at the nursery), herbs, and tomatoes.  My early tomatoes (Earlianna) are almost ready to move to a bigger pot, they grow so much faster than the peppers.

It is too soon for some things - broccoli will get started about two weeks from now.  I still have some of last year's in the freezer, so I am planning for loose head varieties for spring planting.  The big head varieties for freezing will get started later.

Who else loves snap peas?  I have Sugar Snap, Super Sugar Snap and Sugar Daddy, ready to go once the soil thaws.  They are the first thing I plant outside every year. 

@1967mama - glad the soil info was of help, I was afraid it might be too basic.  It is easy to forget how much basic information is sitting in the back of our heads about an activity we have been doing for a long time, that others might not have picked up yet.

@Horsepoor - I love your trellises - I also use netting for climbing peas and beans, and the odd cucumber. I tend to use spruce 2x2s, but the electrical conduit looks really effective.  It doesn't bend under a heavy load?  And how do you get those decorative support boards to stay put?  Did you drill holes for the conduit?  When my Sugar Snap peas get to 6-7 feet they are pretty heavy. 
I have just used 2x8s for my raised beds, but that is more because I need to get topsoil on top of my clay.  If I dug beds they would turn into bathtubs.
I use rebar for tying up tomatoes, I tend to grow mostly indeterminate varieties. I get the epoxy coated when available, since it is less likely to rust, and paint the bare stuff myself with metal paint, so it looks a bit better and doesn't rust.

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« Reply #580 on: April 04, 2015, 07:12:32 AM »
Lost even more seedlings to animals last night. Whooo!

Sigh. I really didn't want to have to put up fencing. Damage is only at night. No deer here (too far into city), so I'm guessing rabbits, as the squirrels are diurnal and have never shown an interest in greens.

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« Reply #581 on: April 04, 2015, 09:12:56 AM »
Goblin, here it is the birds that go for the greens, hence the bird netting I put over my hoops.  The quail, especially, will wipe out any type of lettuce, cabbage or greens seedlins before they get a chance to start.


@Horsepoor - I love your trellises - I also use netting for climbing peas and beans, and the odd cucumber. I tend to use spruce 2x2s, but the electrical conduit looks really effective.  It doesn't bend under a heavy load?  And how do you get those decorative support boards to stay put?  Did you drill holes for the conduit?  When my Sugar Snap peas get to 6-7 feet they are pretty heavy. 
I have just used 2x8s for my raised beds, but that is more because I need to get topsoil on top of my clay.  If I dug beds they would turn into bathtubs.
I use rebar for tying up tomatoes, I tend to grow mostly indeterminate varieties. I get the epoxy coated when available, since it is less likely to rust, and paint the bare stuff myself with metal paint, so it looks a bit better and doesn't rust.

If by decorative boards you mean the top of the trellis, yes, they are drilled with a 7/8" (I think that's the size) hole about 2" deep that the conduit fits into snugly.  This design also means they are easy to collapse for storage.  When I did the jute twine, I put small hook eyes in the boards to tie it off to, but that isn't necessary when using a panel of concrete reinforcing wire.  I have never had any issues with strength of these trellises, but if I was going to trellis something really heavy like squash or melons, I would probably go up one size in electrical conduit, just to be safe.

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« Reply #582 on: April 04, 2015, 01:04:15 PM »
Yes, the top of the trellis - that is very decorative compared to my spruce pieces just lashed together.  ;-)

I have never trellised things like squash, I have always thought they would be too heavy.  I find the peas, especially, are a strain since there is so much foliage and the wind pushes on it.

If by decorative boards you mean the top of the trellis, yes, they are drilled with a 7/8" (I think that's the size) hole about 2" deep that the conduit fits into snugly.  This design also means they are easy to collapse for storage.  When I did the jute twine, I put small hook eyes in the boards to tie it off to, but that isn't necessary when using a panel of concrete reinforcing wire.  I have never had any issues with strength of these trellises, but if I was going to trellis something really heavy like squash or melons, I would probably go up one size in electrical conduit, just to be safe.

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« Reply #583 on: April 04, 2015, 03:47:07 PM »
Lost even more seedlings to animals last night. Whooo!

Sigh. I really didn't want to have to put up fencing. Damage is only at night. No deer here (too far into city), so I'm guessing rabbits, as the squirrels are diurnal and have never shown an interest in greens.

I'm hearing ya. Critters at night, arghhh. Probably a different selection to you, but I've moved to netted enclosures too. It was too heart breaking to come out and find plants I'd just nurtured into a decent size over weeks decimated in one night. I also have a super secure area close to the house to try to keep out slugs/snails - recycled polystyrene containers, cover with nets and with copper tape around the sides. I use these for cut and come again lettuce, chives, basil, spring onions, young seedlings and other stuff on occasion.

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« Reply #584 on: April 04, 2015, 04:57:11 PM »
Snails and slugs can really decimate seedlings. I'd suspect them before rabbits.

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« Reply #585 on: April 04, 2015, 05:39:48 PM »
Snails and slugs can really decimate seedlings. I'd suspect them before rabbits.

Not in my climate. They're basically non-existent.

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Re: Planting/Growing Your Own...The Garden Thread
« Reply #586 on: April 04, 2015, 10:54:24 PM »
Cucumbers are planted, and sweet peas. I got the bags ready and will be doing the rest of the seeds tomorrow. The plants are on their way and will be here this week.

@Thegoblinchief - I've always heard that marigolds will repel rabbits. We used to plant them around the edges of our garden when I was a kid, and it worked pretty well.

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« Reply #587 on: April 06, 2015, 03:24:54 PM »
Anyone have experience making a garden out of lawn space that has been (and will continue to be) under a conventional weed/feed lawn chemical regime? Trying to evaluate a potential off-site garden plot.

It's free, and the plot is segregated enough that drift isn't an issue.

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« Reply #588 on: April 07, 2015, 05:33:25 AM »
Chief-- You might try heavy newspaper mulch, covered with straw now, and let it sit.  Then maybe in June, cut a few holes in the mulch, dump in some compost and try planting winter squash, allowing the vines to swarm over the whole plot.   Next year you may have some decent soil.  One of the commonly used herbicides does persist so you'd have to judge by how the squash did.

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« Reply #589 on: April 07, 2015, 05:56:18 AM »
Hi all!   New here, and new to gardening. 

We bought a house a year and a half ago and the previous owners had planted tons of flowers and trees.  I'm still trying to learn what we have.  We have started some herbs indoors and hops for my husband.  We'll wait until late April to plant those outside.   We are starting simple, plus, we don't have full sun so we are fairly limited in what we can do.

I got some pansies a few weeks ago, and by George, they are still alive!  However, some of them are no longer flowering.  I was very careful to deadhead them, so I don't think they went to seed.  They still feel nice and firm - they aren't wilting or anything.  Any ideas? 

We have partial shade right now in our back garden but it will go to near full shade once the trees have leaves.  Once that happens I'll have to find new locations for my pansies (they are in pots).

I need help in identifying some of what we have. I know this thread is mostly food growers, but hopefully there's some flower/tree people here as well!


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Re: Planting/Growing Your Own...The Garden Thread
« Reply #590 on: April 07, 2015, 06:14:52 AM »
Welcome!

I can't speak for the others, but I definitely do it "all" - flowers (annuals, perennials, bulbs), bushes, trees and edibles.
Inexpensive ornamentals are a good way to get your green thumb started - if they die you have not lost your harvest, or a big investment.  Plus once you start looking in seed catalogues you will see flowers you can't get at the local store, and then you are learning how to start seeds, and then you can grow anything  ;-)
Re identification, a good gardening book from the library should have lots of pictures, and then you can look at what is in your garden for ID.  If it is back, it is a perennial - the annuals would be gone after the first year, unless they are something that self-seeds easily.
If you do want to grow something edible, salad greens tolerate some shade, especially in the heat of summer.

Pansies - pictures? They like it cool, so partial shade is fine.  Mine go on the North side of the house.

Hi all!   New here, and new to gardening. 

We bought a house a year and a half ago and the previous owners had planted tons of flowers and trees.  I'm still trying to learn what we have.  We have started some herbs indoors and hops for my husband.  We'll wait until late April to plant those outside.   We are starting simple, plus, we don't have full sun so we are fairly limited in what we can do.

I got some pansies a few weeks ago, and by George, they are still alive!  However, some of them are no longer flowering.  I was very careful to deadhead them, so I don't think they went to seed.  They still feel nice and firm - they aren't wilting or anything.  Any ideas? 

We have partial shade right now in our back garden but it will go to near full shade once the trees have leaves.  Once that happens I'll have to find new locations for my pansies (they are in pots).

I need help in identifying some of what we have. I know this thread is mostly food growers, but hopefully there's some flower/tree people here as well!

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Re: Planting/Growing Your Own...The Garden Thread
« Reply #591 on: April 07, 2015, 06:24:01 AM »
I have flowers, mostly perennials. Pansies are something I haven't tried so can't help there.

Keep in mind that "full sun" for some crops means as little as 6 hours of good sunshine in a day.

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« Reply #592 on: April 07, 2015, 02:52:23 PM »
I started 42 tomato seeds today - not all will come up (one variety I bought the seed back in 2007, and this is the last of it), and I will not keep all of the ones that do come up, but it is a good chunk of my advance planting. I have 12 different named varieties, plus seeds I saved from 5 different tomatoes I liked that I bought at Costco last fall.  It is earlier than I started them last year, but I think they will be able to go out earlier - we are looking at mostly above freezing temperatures for the next two weeks, which means the garden soil will warm up sooner.

Outside, I saw the first daffodil and peony shoots today.  No small bulbs in the lawn visible yet, they still have snow on them.

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« Reply #593 on: April 07, 2015, 07:57:50 PM »
I'm trying the rain gutter method for starting.....just got some peas, lettuce mix, and spinach in there. Hopefully will see some sprouting in a week or two. Sounds like some of you are in more southern states...here in MI I probably have just under a month til I can get outside for planting.

Anyone try growing peanuts before? That was my off-the-wall purchase to try this year.

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« Reply #594 on: April 07, 2015, 08:11:41 PM »
My off-the-wall effort this year is sweet potatoes. They are not exactly a major crop in the "Great White North"  ;-)

Anyone try growing peanuts before? That was my off-the-wall purchase to try this year.

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Re: Planting/Growing Your Own...The Garden Thread
« Reply #595 on: April 08, 2015, 07:21:01 AM »
I'm trying the rain gutter method for starting.....just got some peas, lettuce mix, and spinach in there. Hopefully will see some sprouting in a week or two. Sounds like some of you are in more southern states...here in MI I probably have just under a month til I can get outside for planting.

Anyone try growing peanuts before? That was my off-the-wall purchase to try this year.

Once, when I lived in California.  They are a bizarre plant.  You've probably read about it, but they flower, then the flower goes underground and forms a peanut.  I just grew a few and harvested them too early, so the nuts weren't fully formed, and they didn't produce much.  Worth growing at least once just as a curiosity, IMO.

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« Reply #596 on: April 09, 2015, 10:02:37 PM »
After 2 days of heavy rain, I've got my first seedlings poking up. Pic: https://instagram.com/p/1Q6YjiMchs/?taken-by=t0fuchampi0n

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Re: Planting/Growing Your Own...The Garden Thread
« Reply #597 on: April 10, 2015, 07:31:44 AM »
Anyone have advice about mold (light grey, fuzzy) growing in seedling trays? Something I need to worry about?

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« Reply #598 on: April 10, 2015, 07:40:31 AM »
Anyone have advice about mold (light grey, fuzzy) growing in seedling trays? Something I need to worry about?

I have the same issue.  It is a fungus that forms due to too much water and not enough air flow across the tray.  Water once a week (or even less) instead of daily.  The fungus will go away and your plant roots will grow down toward the remaining water.  You can also place a fan set on low across the tray for a few hours daily.  Or if the weather is nice, put the plants by an open window. 

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« Reply #599 on: April 10, 2015, 08:44:40 PM »
Anyone have advice about mold (light grey, fuzzy) growing in seedling trays? Something I need to worry about?

Not really a problem. If you see mushrooms, don't eat them. :) The solution is to bottom water and let the top of the soil dry out. Just set your pots or whatever on a tray of some kind, and water that. So it should be little pots sitting in maybe 1/2 inch of water at first, and then they'll suck it up through capillary action. If the water sits for more than maybe 12 hours you added too much. Don't water unless the pot is dry 1/2" down (for little pots) or 1-2" down (for big pots).

 

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