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Mustachian Meditation
« on: January 24, 2019, 09:19:43 AM »
Mustachian by nature!
Meditation is low-cost exploration at it's finest  (unless you pay for supporting resources like books and retreats and support teachers--which I do recommend at a certain point!)

Thought I would start this thread as there seems to be some interest in exploring a meditation challenge. I've signed up for Sharon Salzberg's daily meditations through February--thought this thread could be a place to stay accountable, share resources and thoughts/questions if they bubble up.

After a decade of reading about mindfulness and meditation (and listening to Tara Brach's on-line talks), a few years back I took a 5-min/30 day challenge by a local yoga instructor. It was amazing how the low commitment level really helped me jump on board and how quickly I felt the benefits (I previously *liked* the idea of meditation just didn't like the discipline in actually doing it, which is where the real gold is)

One of my goals this year is to be meditating daily (minimum 20min) and so far I've been at about 75%.
Please feel free to join in and explore your inner workings a bit. It's fun, it's boring, it's occasionally enlightening. Such is life :)

I'll link some resources that have been helpful to me and add to it as I remember more --please feel free to share yours and I can add them to this resources area

Sites

https://www.sharonsalzberg.com

https://www.tarabrach.com

https://palousemindfulness.com  (free 8 week Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction Course)

Books

Full Catastrophe Living : Jon Kabat-Zin
Radical Acceptance : Tara Brach
Why Buddhism is True (The Science and Philosophy of Meditation and Enlightenment): Robert Wright
Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics: Dan Harris
Real Happiness: Sharon Salzberg
Anything by Thich Nat Hanh
Anything by Pema Chodran

The Mind Illuminated: Culadasa
Atomic Habits: James Clear

Apps, etc

Insight Timer (free app) I use for timing/some guided meditations

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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2019, 10:15:40 AM »
I'm in!  I've been dabbling in meditation for the past year but need to change things up to get more consistency.  I think I need to start meditating in the morning, or at least not right before bed.  Excited to see how the challenge goes!

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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2019, 10:22:54 AM »
I'm in. I have to be more consistent about it. I also have to find better times than right before bed because I always feel too tired and it's very hard to keep concentrated.

I'll challenge myself to a 15 minutes/day meditation period.

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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2019, 10:43:42 AM »
Iím in! Signed up last night!

Download Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics on audible to listen to and from work, and got Real Happiness on kindle to read at home before the 28 day challenge starts.

Another notable book is ďAtomic Habits,Ē since trying to turn this meditation in a habit is essentially my ultimate goal!

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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2019, 02:17:55 PM »
Great--happy to have you on board @SquashingDebt & @max9505672

Iím in! Signed up last night!

Download Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics on audible to listen to and from work, and got Real Happiness on kindle to read at home before the 28 day challenge starts.

Another notable book is ďAtomic Habits,Ē since trying to turn this meditation in a habit is essentially my ultimate goal!

Ah cool @use2betrix --I have a hold placed on Atomic Habits from the library, should be able to read it sometime in the next month or so.

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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2019, 02:26:08 PM »
I'm meditating daily in the morning just after waking up. I'd been a serious meditator for a while, fell off the bus (and notice the difference!), and am trying to get back on again. Love the resources that you posted. Another great one for new meditators: The Mind Illuminated by Culadasa

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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2019, 11:59:31 AM »
I'm meditating daily in the morning just after waking up. I'd been a serious meditator for a while, fell off the bus (and notice the difference!), and am trying to get back on again. Love the resources that you posted. Another great one for new meditators: The Mind Illuminated by Culadasa

Ah thanks for that recommendation @Dr Kidstache : I just found out that our library has a copy. I've bookmarked it (first I must finish the ones I have on the go!)

I also find morning is the best time, tend to be the most successful if I rouse myself before I think about it too much *and decide to stay in bed*. Once it starts brightening up in the mornings= much easier.

 I'll often return to bed after meditating to read for a while, so it's actually a pretty great way to start the day. Changed my alarm so that on days I decide to use one, it is the sound of birdsong rather than some annoying beep or chime waking me up.

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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2019, 01:32:57 PM »
I'm in!

I had been doing a quick morning meditation and then a longer guided meditation at night to fall asleep to, but fell out of the habit a month or so ago. A few things in my life recently have upped the general emotional malaise/disquiet, especially when I'm home in a quiet house, so I'm motivated to get back into practice. I've read a few articles lately that recommend meditation directly after the workday so I'm toying with the idea of resuming morning meditation with a more purposeful meditation time immediately after I get home. And feed the cat. Or I'll get good really quickly at ignoring external stimulus in the shapes of loud purrs and claws in my skin.

I really liked the app Simple Habit but found out the concept and structure were entirely ripped off from another app, so I've switched to Insight Timer. I'm still playing with finding the voices that resonate best with me, and in general just navigating the different options, but I think it will work for me for a long time and I really respect their business model.

I've had the best success when writing daily as well. Sometimes just a list of to-do items to check off, sometimes a specific intention, sometimes free flowing journaling type of emotional processing. I find it very difficult this time of year to maintain as a habit with the weather being so cold and wanting to sleep a lot more than I do once it warms up a little.

Thanks for starting this thread, Serendip! I just signed up for Sharon Salzberg's challenge - I really loved the format last year (my first) and feel like I'll learn a lot more this time around.

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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2019, 04:00:07 PM »
I signed up with Sharon as well. I was signed up last year but totally forgot about it so I am going to make myself a note. I really would like to challenge myself to a month straight.  I usually canít sit thru it everyday.

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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2019, 09:51:35 AM »
The Mind Illuminated by Culadasa is a manual for learning to meditate - from complete beginner to advanced. It's not a book that has to be read in one go. It defines stages and what to focus on as your meditation practice develops. Probably the best single book on how to meditate ever written.

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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2019, 10:29:46 AM »

I really liked the app Simple Habit but found out the concept and structure were entirely ripped off from another app, so I've switched to Insight Timer. I'm still playing with finding the voices that resonate best with me, and in general just navigating the different options, but I think it will work for me for a long time and I really respect their business model.

Thanks for starting this thread, Serendip! I just signed up for Sharon Salzberg's challenge - I really loved the format last year (my first) and feel like I'll learn a lot more this time around.

Great that you are here @katscratch --I love Jen Piercy on Insight Timer, she mostly focuses on Yoga Nidra which is a real delight to do immediately before sleep. I veer away from a lot of the guided because it IS hard to find voices you connect with, but occasionally I find one or two I like and bookmark them :)

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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2019, 10:31:54 AM »
I signed up with Sharon as well. I was signed up last year but totally forgot about it so I am going to make myself a note. I really would like to challenge myself to a month straight.  I usually canít sit thru it everyday.

The good thing about Sharon is she often talks about different approaches to meditation, perhaps listening to them while you are walking or stretching would help to start? The settling down/combating restlessness is something I understand very well :)
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2019, 05:01:19 PM »
Adding myself to this thread as I begin adding mediation into my mornings and possibly evenings!

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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2019, 05:55:28 PM »
There's a great 8-week free meditation course at palousemindfulness.com

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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2019, 01:00:09 PM »
There's a great 8-week free meditation course at palousemindfulness.com

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I've done this course and it's a great option if there's no MBSR (Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction) course available near you.

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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2019, 01:13:01 PM »
Thanks for all the recommendations.
I recently started a 12 week long Qui Gong course - part exercise, part meditation. Who knew breathing could be so different.
I am surprised at how such "mild" exercises are effecting my muscle tone and my body. Those are some killer exercises.

The meditation part is difficult for me, so I think I'll give the app and the fidgety book a go - maybe they'll help.

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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2019, 01:32:13 PM »
I use the Headspace app for guided meditation. (My workplace offers the yearly subscription at a ridiculously low price as part of our health benefits.) I'm super new to this, and have been meditating semi frequently for a few months. My goal 5 days a week/10 minutes a day to start. I notice a huge difference, but as with all habits, it takes a lot of effort to both build & maintain.

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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2019, 10:21:06 AM »
There's a great 8-week free meditation course at palousemindfulness.com

Thanks for the recommendation--I added the link to the resources and will do this course perhaps later in the spring!

@Rosy -I love that you are enjoying it! For a long while, I started my day with this simple video "7 minutes of magic" --seemed cheesy to me at the start, being a hiker/skier/big-movement lover, but I really grew to appreciate the subtlety
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-jSBBwr8Ko

@MaybeBabyMustache --that's a great perk. I've heard about Headspace but haven't looked into it personally. I started with 5 minutes a day as well--sometimes now still five and sometimes it's forty :)

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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2019, 03:25:05 PM »
There's a great 8-week free meditation course at palousemindfulness.com

Thanks for the recommendation--I added the link to the resources and will do this course perhaps later in the spring!

@Rosy -I love that you are enjoying it! For a long while, I started my day with this simple video "7 minutes of magic" --seemed cheesy to me at the start, being a hiker/skier/big-movement lover, but I really grew to appreciate the subtlety
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-jSBBwr8Ko

@MaybeBabyMustache --that's a great perk. I've heard about Headspace but haven't looked into it personally. I started with 5 minutes a day as well--sometimes now still five and sometimes it's forty :)

Thanks so much, @Serendip - very cool. His sequence did not include one single movement that our teacher is teaching us. So now I have even more movements to practice and without paying a dime too.
I can see why at the time it would have seemed "cheesy" to you - I was the same. It takes time and age to appreciate it fully. When we're young we're hooked on speed and power, we haven't experienced pain and ill health or stiffness and daily aches that just refuse to leave.
My next step is Pilates, but so far I just haven't found the wherewithal to integrate it into my schedule.
Thanks again since it also led me to some other interesting youtube videos.

My one accomplishment this month was reverting to drinking my coffee black instead of adding copious amounts of delicious ice cream every morning. I do miss the ice cream, but I don't miss the nebulous, tired feeling I get from the sugar and the lactose - I'm actually allergic to cow milk, but love ice cream.
Europe has more fruit ice cream mostly without milk so it was easier there. I can tolerate a small amount of ice cream but not too much and certainly not on a daily basis - European portions of ice cream are about a third or less than what is served in the US.

Anyway - I am truly ecstatic that I kicked the habit! It was not easy - I kept backsliding - tried over a year already. Now I am over it - hallelujah!



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« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2019, 08:51:13 AM »
Glad you liked it @Rosy --always nice to have variation.
 And I agree, I found qi gong after a severe back injury (induced by too much snowboarding AND yoga, go figure!).
The gentleness of it really helped slow my pace and recover.

Today is day 1 of the Sharon Salzberg True Happiness meditation challenge.

 I think there are a few of us participating..
 I finished it and did a few more minutes afterwards, enjoying her casual approach.


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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2019, 09:03:10 AM »
I'm in!

I started mindfulness meditations after reading the book, aptly named, Mindfulness. Then I was on and off with it for maybe a year or so. I started doing it again last month and have really enjoyed it a lot.

I'm about to read the book by Sam Harris, Waking Up (from the library). His app is great, but it is paid, so I switched to just free material (mustachian, of course!). I am a huge fan of his podcast, which was just renamed to The Making Sense Podcast.

I am a huge fan of stoicism and have recently gotten quite intrigued by Buddhism. Some aspects of it at least, mostly the meditation.

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« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2019, 09:53:53 AM »

I'm about to read the book by Sam Harris, Waking Up (from the library). His app is great, but it is paid, so I switched to just free material (mustachian, of course!). I am a huge fan of his podcast, which was just renamed to The Making Sense Podcast.

I am a huge fan of stoicism and have recently gotten quite intrigued by Buddhism. Some aspects of it at least, mostly the meditation.

The Sam Harris podcast with Robert Wright (the author of Why Buddhism is True) is a good one, have you heard it yet?
 You can tell they have this fractured history and it's quite something to listen to the two of them navigate the conversation.

I haven't read his book yet but would like to if I can source it (our library doesn't carry it currently)--pls let me know what you think of it once you read it!

Currently I am reading Mindfulness in Plain English by Bhante Gunaratana--it is toted as a classic and is an easy, informative and entertaining read.
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« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2019, 08:47:42 AM »
The Sam Harris podcast with Robert Wright (the author of Why Buddhism is True) is a good one, have you heard it yet?
 You can tell they have this fractured history and it's quite something to listen to the two of them navigate the conversation.

I haven't read his book yet but would like to if I can source it (our library doesn't carry it currently)--pls let me know what you think of it once you read it!

I love Robert Wright. I haven't read Why Buddhism is True yet, but he has a free course on Coursera that he developed around his research and preparation while writing the book. It's called Buddhism and Modern Psychology and I highly recommend it.

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« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2019, 01:16:24 PM »

I'm about to read the book by Sam Harris, Waking Up (from the library). His app is great, but it is paid, so I switched to just free material (mustachian, of course!). I am a huge fan of his podcast, which was just renamed to The Making Sense Podcast.

I am a huge fan of stoicism and have recently gotten quite intrigued by Buddhism. Some aspects of it at least, mostly the meditation.

The Sam Harris podcast with Robert Wright (the author of Why Buddhism is True) is a good one, have you heard it yet?
 You can tell they have this fractured history and it's quite something to listen to the two of them navigate the conversation.

I haven't read his book yet but would like to if I can source it (our library doesn't carry it currently)--pls let me know what you think of it once you read it!

Currently I am reading Mindfulness in Plain English by Bhante Gunaratana--it is toted as a classic and is an easy, informative and entertaining read.

Yeah, that was a really good podcast. All of Sam's are that I've heard.

I'm about half way through the book and, wow, it's been quite eye-opening. I highly recommend it if you're serious about meditation. It changed the way I viewed meditation and consciousness so far, and I'm not even done yet (I just started the actual chapter on meditation, ha!).

Mostly the "mind blowing" part for me was the part about the Self being an illusion. I'm going to have to sit with that and work through that longer, because I still don't fully grasp it. I was under the impression that mindfulness meditation was just to help you stay level headed, or in my case, be more stoic (in the actual stoic-philosophy sense, not just emotionless). However, it seems that mindfulness meditation that we do in the west is really, at the core, just a concentration practice. And once you master that then you can begin to explore deeper and deeper.

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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2019, 08:43:35 AM »
Ah yes, that who I am is merely the stories I tell myself about me :)

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« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2019, 11:47:23 PM »
Thanks for starting this thread. I've been curious and interested in meditation for a bit, but only recently started putting it in practice. Good timing finding this thread.

The resources I've found most helpful have been local. A chance glance at the events section in the local newspaper led me to finding out there is a Buddhist monastery and that they have meditation sessions open to the public. They stress that it is open to non Buddhists, and I found it very welcoming and helpful.
I also found a weekly series of meditation nights at the local library. For a variety of reasons, I liked the experience better at the monastery, but it is nice to have the experience with both.

I've found some of the guided meditations (and other resources) from this site pretty useful: https://www.excelatlife.com/downloads/meditation/audios.htm

I haven't read his book yet but would like to if I can source it (our library doesn't carry it currently)--pls let me know what you think of it once you read it!

I really liked the book why Buddhism is true. I would not call it easy reading at all (at least for me), but I don't have a background in buddhist ideas. It's a compelling read, he really digs in deep. It was fun at least. There was an NPR interview with the author that I found quite good. It's what first got me more interested in meditation.


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« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2019, 11:07:01 AM »

Mostly the "mind blowing" part for me was the part about the Self being an illusion. I'm going to have to sit with that and work through that longer, because I still don't fully grasp it. I was under the impression that mindfulness meditation was just to help you stay level headed, or in my case, be more stoic (in the actual stoic-philosophy sense, not just emotionless). However, it seems that mindfulness meditation that we do in the west is really, at the core, just a concentration practice. And once you master that then you can begin to explore deeper and deeper.

I think fully grasping it is the work of a lifetime!  That's one of the things I am loving about meditation, for me the initial purpose to look into it years ago was to develop a tool to skillfully work with anxiety--but the compelling research that is now out there, personal practice and all the reading I've done have convinced me that it runs so much deeper. It's exciting.

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« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2019, 11:09:53 AM »
The Sam Harris podcast with Robert Wright (the author of Why Buddhism is True) is a good one, have you heard it yet?
 You can tell they have this fractured history and it's quite something to listen to the two of them navigate the conversation.

I haven't read his book yet but would like to if I can source it (our library doesn't carry it currently)--pls let me know what you think of it once you read it!

I love Robert Wright. I haven't read Why Buddhism is True yet, but he has a free course on Coursera that he developed around his research and preparation while writing the book. It's called Buddhism and Modern Psychology and I highly recommend it.

Just signed up for the Coursera session--thanks for the recommendation @Dr Kidstache
Even the recommended reading and resources for the course are amazing. I will have to put it mostly on hold as I'm going away for two weeks but I think it'll be a good brain workout for when the soppy spring weather shows up.

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« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2019, 11:12:26 AM »
Thanks for starting this thread. I've been curious and interested in meditation for a bit, but only recently started putting it in practice. Good timing finding this thread.

The resources I've found most helpful have been local. A chance glance at the events section in the local newspaper led me to finding out there is a Buddhist monastery and that they have meditation sessions open to the public. They stress that it is open to non Buddhists, and I found it very welcoming and helpful.
I also found a weekly series of meditation nights at the local library. For a variety of reasons, I liked the experience better at the monastery, but it is nice to have the experience with both.

I've found some of the guided meditations (and other resources) from this site pretty useful: https://www.excelatlife.com/downloads/meditation/audios.htm

I haven't read his book yet but would like to if I can source it (our library doesn't carry it currently)--pls let me know what you think of it once you read it!

I really liked the book why Buddhism is true. I would not call it easy reading at all (at least for me), but I don't have a background in buddhist ideas. It's a compelling read, he really digs in deep. It was fun at least. There was an NPR interview with the author that I found quite good. It's what first got me more interested in meditation.

I read Buddhism is True last year and really enjoyed it..figured I'd like to read again, it's seemed like there was so  information in there. I have to remind myself to allocate half the time to reading and the other half to actually meditating :)

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« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2019, 08:09:07 PM »
Checking in!

Doing great so far, was out of town on business and visiting friends/family the last four days so I fell slightly out of the 28 day challenge groove (listening to the daily meditations) so I have 3 to catch up to. That being said, on the 3 hr flights each way I mediated at least half hr each way and more than made up for it.

Iíve finished Dan Harrisí Audible about meditation for fidgety skeptics. Iím working on Sharon Salzbergs mindfulness book on Kindle.

I listened to a podcast by Sam Harris on Tim Ferrisí channel (it was basically all Sam Harris guides, Tom Ferris only took part in the introduction) and it was very interesting. Iím in search for my next audible, been diving so deep into the meditation learning I might need to mix it up a tad before going deeper.

As a whole, I genuinely feel calmer and less anxious. I did have to speak very briefly at a conference and still felt like my heart was going to break out of my chest. Still a work in progress there but many other benefits in other areas still.
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I got a late start this month and never found the signup on the Sharon Salzburg site, but Iíve committed to doing daily meditations for at least a month started last week. Listening to Sarah Blondinís amazing Coming Home to Yourself course on Insight Timer. Her ideas and delivery are incredible and she has (developed?) the perfect voice for a meditation guide. I was in tears during the both of the first two.