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Will you pledge not to fly in 2020?

Yes, I pledge not fly at all in 2020
8 (21.6%)
I pledge not to fly for personal or family reasons but may be required to fly for work
1 (2.7%)
I'm going to fly for whatever reason I like
19 (51.4%)
I will still fly but for environmental reasons will do so less than in 2019
9 (24.3%)

Total Members Voted: 37

Voting closes: October 27, 2020, 05:03:56 AM

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Flight free in 2020
« on: January 01, 2020, 04:03:56 AM »
I ran this poll in 2019 and thought it would be interesting to see whether there is any discernable change in the responses.

I pledged not to fly in 2019 and kept that promise.

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Re: Flight free in 2020
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2020, 05:58:55 AM »
Well done former player. I also voted last year to not fly and I kept that promise. I have voted the same again this year.

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Re: Flight free in 2020
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2020, 08:23:42 AM »
Unfortunately I will not be able to not fly at all this year.

I am aiming at flying less and preferably much less than last year though. 2019 was a big fail on that front although my job was responsible for the worst flight.

Another thing I aim to do is no flights within Europe. If I want to go somewhere close, I want to travel by train or bus even when that's more expensive and takes 10x the amount of time. 

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Re: Flight free in 2020
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2020, 09:49:04 AM »
Hirondelle: I've added an option 4 for "will still fly but will reduce for environmental reasons", which I hope might garner some support.

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Re: Flight free in 2020
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2020, 10:01:09 AM »
What's the reason for not flying?  Money, environment, other?

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Re: Flight free in 2020
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2020, 02:09:58 PM »
I pledge to only fly for work which I know I will have to do, and to only fly for personal reasons with the points I accumulate from those work flights (if I do fly for personal reasons at all). I do plan to staycation and vacation locally more in 2020 than fly anywhere. My main goal is financial tbh.

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Re: Flight free in 2020
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2020, 02:43:28 PM »
What's the reason for not flying?  Money, environment, other?
The societal benefit to not flying is of course reduction of greenhouse gas emissions.  The environment isn't going to care why someone is flying less, just that they do.  (Although Option 4 does now refer to an environmental motivation.)

I was rather surprised by the results of the previous poll: I would have thought mustachians not to have been quite so gung-ho regarding their personal environmental footprint.  Hence repeating the exercise to see if the news over the last year is starting to shift opinion.

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Re: Flight free in 2020
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2020, 03:23:02 PM »
What's the reason for not flying?  Money, environment, other?
The societal benefit to not flying is of course reduction of greenhouse gas emissions.  The environment isn't going to care why someone is flying less, just that they do.  (Although Option 4 does now refer to an environmental motivation.)

I was rather surprised by the results of the previous poll: I would have thought mustachians not to have been quite so gung-ho regarding their personal environmental footprint.  Hence repeating the exercise to see if the news over the last year is starting to shift opinion.

This is an interesting discussion from the BBC.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49349566

Frankly, I've never really looked into the differences.  Ideally, I'd like to minimize impact to the environment - but I also can't take a couple of weeks off work to travel across country.

I appreciate the discussion.  As always, I appreciate this forum for more than just financial independence thought.


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Re: Flight free in 2020
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2020, 02:23:37 AM »
Huh.  280 views and only 10 votes.  I had no idea mustachians were so shy.

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Re: Flight free in 2020
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2020, 02:28:56 AM »
Hirondelle: I've added an option 4 for "will still fly but will reduce for environmental reasons", which I hope might garner some support.

Thank you! I voted and I also hope that that option may inspire more people to have a look at their flying behavior and look at a reduction :)

No flights at all would be ideal but like with other environmental steps, the perfect shouldn't be the enemy of the good.

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Re: Flight free in 2020
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2020, 09:33:05 AM »
I voted I will not fly in 2020.  I also didn't fly in 2019, so it should be possible to keep the pledge.  The only reason I can see breaking that is if something happens to DH's grandmother, we would definitely want to go to the funeral (across the ocean, so we would have to fly).  She's been in good health, though, so hopefully all will remain well.

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Re: Flight free in 2020
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2020, 10:15:22 AM »
I didn't fly in 2019, and will be flying this weekend for a funeral (close family).  I don't anticipate flying any more than that this year.

GF flies a ton, but all for work.

We both drive a shitload though; hopefully we'll put less than 30k on our cars this year.

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Re: Flight free in 2020
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2020, 01:45:22 PM »
I haven't traveled outside of a 100 mile radius from my house for the past 15 years and I see no reason why that will change in the next year.

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Re: Flight free in 2020
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2020, 02:23:51 PM »
I flew once in 2019 and have 1 planned trip in 2020.  But may very well make it two. Our families are on the opposite coast.

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Re: Flight free in 2020
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2020, 03:27:38 PM »
We live a long ways from some family plus have business trips. We drive when we can but there is no reliable train service at all here in flyover USA. So, it's several days of driving or one of flying to get anywhere. I didn't vote in the poll because the "I'll fly whenever I please" just seemed too...stringent? But, we will continue to fly unless the US suddenly develops a reliable high-speed rail system that actually functions as well as the one's I've used in Europe (disclaimer: I've only used rail in Europe once but it was fantastic. My experience may not be at all representative of "normal".)

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Re: Flight free in 2020
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2020, 03:46:45 PM »
Flying once for pleasure later this month, although it is really to see my brother. It'd be a 26 hour roundtrip car ride, so we're flying it since we don't have the vacation time/funds once you consider the cost to board the dog.

Flying once for my side-gig. This will be the first and likely only time I take a flight for that job, and I've been doing it for 12 years now. Not impossible that I don't fly again for it, just unlikely.

Then I'm sure I'll have 2-4 trips for my real job. Those would be a 35 hour round trip car ride, so they're certainly not happening in any way other than a flight.

Hopefully other than my real jobs trips, I won't have any flights in 2021.

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Re: Flight free in 2020
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2020, 04:21:49 PM »
I last flew in 2015. Being in Australia, I would love to fly and take an overseas holiday, but just can't do it with a good conscience.

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Re: Flight free in 2020
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2020, 04:22:11 PM »
I didn't fly at all in 2019 so I couldn't fly less. This year I'm flying twice, once on vacation and once to visit husband's brother and his wife who is sick and doesn't have long to live.

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Re: Flight free in 2020
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2020, 09:18:27 AM »
I voted I will not fly in 2020.  I also didn't fly in 2019, so it should be possible to keep the pledge.  The only reason I can see breaking that is if something happens to DH's grandmother, we would definitely want to go to the funeral (across the ocean, so we would have to fly).  She's been in good health, though, so hopefully all will remain well.

Unfortunately, I will be breaking the pledge to not fly this year.  DH's grandmother declined quickly and passed away, so we'll be flying to the funeral next week.

How is everyone else doing on their goals?