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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1450 on: March 07, 2017, 12:07:59 PM »
Guys- My Fitness Pal is working well - so well that I'm dubious and worried that I'm doing something wrong :)

I've been at it for a week and a half, have been eating within 50 calories of my goal (set to lose half a pound a week), but have dropped almost 4 pounds (this is after two months of stagnant weight). Do I need to go in and adjust things? give it another week to see how it shakes out and if it slows down? I just don't want to lose too fast (that sounds ridiculous right?).

MFP is definitely helping me stay on top of my macros better than I usually do. Perhaps that is what is making the difference? I aim to hit around 40-30-30 but am  not ever strict about it. I never hit the protein goal and usually inch over the fat goal but not by too much so I don't worry about. MFP is keeping me on top of my carbs though.

rockstache - your steady and consistent weight loss is a total inspiration!

use2betrix - hi! welcome.

elaine amj - I am in awe of you biking to work - I'm terrified of biking with traffic!


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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1451 on: March 07, 2017, 08:37:56 PM »
elaine amj, thanks for the welcome back!  Thanks also for pointing out that only the foods in MFP with a green check mark have had their numbers verified.  I had no idea, and am now looking for green check marks whenever I can!

Today I had a really frustrating afternoon, the sort of day where I end up stress eating.  I've been resisting so far and trying other ways to relax - deep breathing and reminding myself that I won't feel this way forever, this is just a temporary mood.  It's helped, but I still really want dessert.

Does anyone have tips on what works for them to avoid stress eating?

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« Reply #1452 on: March 07, 2017, 08:47:10 PM »
elaine amj, thanks for the welcome back!  Thanks also for pointing out that only the foods in MFP with a green check mark have had their numbers verified.  I had no idea, and am now looking for green check marks whenever I can!

Today I had a really frustrating afternoon, the sort of day where I end up stress eating.  I've been resisting so far and trying other ways to relax - deep breathing and reminding myself that I won't feel this way forever, this is just a temporary mood.  It's helped, but I still really want dessert.

Does anyone have tips on what works for them to avoid stress eating?

Drinking a good amount of water tends to curb those immediate urges.

Do you not feel worse after you stress eat? Personally while the immediate gratification of cheating on my diet is is ok, I find it hard not to feel worse after knowing I didnt even have the self control to not stuff shit in my mouth I don't need.

The key is to not get on a diet so miserable that you have zero enjoyment. Eating isn't meant to be some magical enjoyable experience. It's meant to have tons and tons of benefits of health, focus, energy, etc. if you love ice cream, plan a small bowl once a week or every other week and plan for it.

Also... if you don't keep "cheat food" readily available, you won't eat it. If you have to make a special trip to the store to eat crap not in your diet plan, I'd say the problem is beyond self control. My wife makes one grocery trip a week, buys exactly enough food for every day and every meal of the following week, and does it again. If something isn't in our meal plan, we don't have it in the house.

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1453 on: March 08, 2017, 08:19:04 PM »
I concur with drinking something, be it broth, coffee with splenda, or hot cocoa. 

That said, I feel great when I binge, and usually I'm still under my maintenance calories.  I like to make lists of food I really want, and only eat off that list.  In other words, no binging on mediocre junk, but get that croissant or five guys burger and fries, or the best pizza.  Well, sometimes I have to wait for the best foods, and by then I'm not as stressed.  Or giving myself permission means I'm okay with half a burger and no fries.

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« Reply #1454 on: March 09, 2017, 06:13:10 AM »
I concur with drinking something, be it broth, coffee with splenda, or hot cocoa. 

That said, I feel great when I binge, and usually I'm still under my maintenance calories.  I like to make lists of food I really want, and only eat off that list.  In other words, no binging on mediocre junk, but get that croissant or five guys burger and fries, or the best pizza.  Well, sometimes I have to wait for the best foods, and by then I'm not as stressed.  Or giving myself permission means I'm okay with half a burger and no fries.

That's a great idea - to make lists of things you really want and choose from that! It would definitely limit the "crap factor".

I have a horrendous head cold, and it makes me want to eat ALL the food ALL day long. And my energy level is really low, I think because, hello, my brain is not getting enough oxygen through my clogged nostrils! I did a qi gong routine from YouTube for energy yesterday and it was amazingly effective. I'm going to do it again today:

Morning Qi Gong 10 Minute Exercise

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1455 on: March 09, 2017, 09:04:21 AM »
elaine amj, thanks for the welcome back!  Thanks also for pointing out that only the foods in MFP with a green check mark have had their numbers verified.  I had no idea, and am now looking for green check marks whenever I can!

Today I had a really frustrating afternoon, the sort of day where I end up stress eating.  I've been resisting so far and trying other ways to relax - deep breathing and reminding myself that I won't feel this way forever, this is just a temporary mood.  It's helped, but I still really want dessert.

Does anyone have tips on what works for them to avoid stress eating?

When I'm stress eating, I'm normally snacking throughout the day non stop. I like the feeling of eating and crunching. So, I'm trying to just provide myself with a healthier, satisfying alternative. This normally means pairing some sort of protein with whatever I eat so I feel full, as well as having crunchy health options.

A couple of examples of how I'm fulfilling that need in a healthier way:
- Putting slivered almonds in my Greek yogurt.
- I made tuna salad, subbing avocado/greek yogurt for the mayo (more protein and healthy fat!). I also put a whole bunch of cruncy cucumber, celery, carrots in as well with the tuna. Then I ate that with celery/baby carrots most of the after noon.

Basically I've found that protein + healthy fat + crunchy = no eating a bag of chips or a whole bowl of popcorn.

If I can't get the crunch element from whatever food is around, I'll have a protein bar with a glass of milk so at least I feel really full and won't want to keep eating.

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1456 on: March 10, 2017, 04:56:16 AM »
Friday Weigh-In:

Start Date: Feb 24: 155.4 lbs
March 3:    154 lbs
March 10: 151.6


Apparently when I'm stressed I can have A quesadilla or a seven and seven - but not both or more than one of each! Who knew ?! ;)
« Last Edit: March 10, 2017, 05:26:59 AM by StarBright »

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1457 on: March 10, 2017, 06:45:00 AM »
I like that idea to identify the texture that you're craving (crunchy) and then find a healthy food that fulfills the craving.

I struggled last week because I was sick with a cold. I don't understand how being sick kills my appetite, and yet somehow I end up eating more because I'm feeling sorry for myself! Ah well.

I am better now, and I am working on breaking my habit of going to the office candy bowl every day. So far I have three days in a row of not eating any candy. I didn't realize my habit had gotten so bad, but looking at MFP I was eating about 250 calories a day in candy. Yikes. I'm starting to see some weight loss, which has been very encouraging!


2/4: 142.6
2/15: 142.4
3/2: 142.2
3/10: 140.8



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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1458 on: March 10, 2017, 08:28:11 AM »
I am sorry to hear that you were sick LG!

I like that idea to identify the texture that you're craving (crunchy) and then find a healthy food that fulfills the craving.

I learned this from my weight loss support group. I heard someone call them "buffer foods". Basically, they are healthier substitutes that still really hit the spot in terms of satisfying a craving.

For folks that really like sweets, for example, might like this recipe: http://www.hollyscheatday.com/protein-pumpkin-pie/ (I'd do it without the whipped cream so no crazy sugar cravings).

I also will do Greek yogurt with 1 tsp honey, strawberries and almond slivers (crunch!)  for a nighttime snack as well.

elaine  amj -- I've switched my tracking while cooking to your method and it is much easier. I just jot down everything while I'm cooking then record later. It really speeds up the cooking process. So thanks!

Weight Log
12/6/16  ~265
1/7/17      256.4   
2/3/17      251.6
3/10/17    242.2 (-9.4)
Total: 22.8

I'm at 242.2 - I've been bouncing around for the last 3 weeks between 241-249. 

Once I hit a 20lb loss, I started to struggle. I maintained at 245-250 for many years. It's nice that all my clothes fit again : ).

Mentally pushing pass that 20lb number that was a hurdle, plus I guess my habits (mainly poor food choices when eating out) keep me in that range. So, long-term, I need to stay consistent with eating well and continue to change up things and try new things to see new numbers.

This Monday I got back on track. My mind is back is the right space again. I expect it will be another week or so before I start to dip into new territory below 241 since I've been fluctuating so much lately. I was at 249 on Monday, for example. 

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1459 on: March 10, 2017, 01:20:03 PM »
Visited the nutritionist today and I'm down 3 lbs from last month, so:

September 2016: 189
February 2017: 172
March 2017: 169
Goal weight: 157

It's very motivating to get into the 160s and to reach the 20 lb mark. Just 12 more to go!

She asked what I attribute the steady loss to, and I told her in all seriousness: chocolate and tequila.

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1460 on: March 11, 2017, 09:52:43 AM »
I feel like I'm in the zone this week, hitting some good numbers for food and exercise.  I often finish a meal still a little hungry, which fades in half an hour.  Hopefully my body is just asking for what its used to, not setting myself up for a binge. 

The cold weather this week is putting a damper on my exercise, but I did half. 

Two pitfalls coming up: birthday event and pizza at work.  I feel about pizza the way Elaine feels about cake, so I might restrict to one piece but I doubt zero.  I make sure to have a healthy meal to distract me, and I've been trying to see pizza as bad as cake, donuts, or bagels, which I could turn down easily.  The donuts have more sugar obviously, but theyre both basically white flour and fat.  Right?

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1461 on: March 11, 2017, 07:08:00 PM »
Lost another 1.4 today, which came as a surprise. I was expecting a smaller loss or to maintain, but I'll happily take it. Down 17.2 since January 14th.

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1462 on: March 13, 2017, 09:41:00 AM »
Weigh-in:

2/20: 159.5
2/26: 158.5
3/4:   155
3/7:   154.5
3/12: 153.5

I'm really encouraged to be seeing progress.  I definitely have days where it feels easy and days where it's a struggle not to eat whatever I want.  I do feel like I've somewhat "reset" how many calories my body expects and that's encouraging too.

Thanks everyone for the ideas for avoiding stress eating.  I will give some of them a try.  When I stress eat, I'm mostly looking for a dopamine rush (is that the right chemical?) ie a mood lift.  So yeah, I almost always feel better after eating a piece of chocolate cake or some fried food or pizza.  I do feel like my general mood is improving overall, so I'm not experiencing those cravings as often lately.  I'll have to think about other ways to get a similar mood lift.  I know exercise is supposed to help, so maybe more of that.

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« Reply #1463 on: March 13, 2017, 08:44:16 PM »
When I stress eat, I'm mostly looking for a dopamine rush (is that the right chemical?) ie a mood lift. 

A lightbulb went off for me a while ago when I realized that I wasn't getting most of the dopamine hits I was used to and thus feeling more prone to SAD and just general sadness. If you change the way you are eating a lot of the different ways you get dopamine tend to go, the ritual and habits around food, the excitement of cooking and eating certain foods, the addictive and chemical responses to some foods. So if you take away most of the different ways you get dopamine kicks from food, what are you left with?

I googled and came across a couple of strategies I am working through:
https://bebrainfit.com/increase-dopamine/
http://www.chatelaine.com/health/wellness/addicted-to-food-sex-stress-it-may-be-a-dopamine-imbalance/

Quote from above I found interesting:"Researchers at Princeton University found dopamine decreased in rats when they lost weight on restricted eating programs. With this drop in weight, the rats’ appetites increased and they began to eat more in an attempt to naturally restore dopamine levels."




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« Reply #1464 on: March 13, 2017, 10:26:04 PM »
Swick, those articles were really interesting, thanks for sharing the links. I'm going to spend some time thinking about the suggestions. The description of how people feel with low dopamine levels matches how I've been feeling for the last few years. I've been trying to counteract those feelings with food, but it would be nice to try something else.

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« Reply #1465 on: March 13, 2017, 10:50:53 PM »
I've been trying to counteract those feelings with food, but it would be nice to try something else.

I think it is a big challenge, and I mean, you can lose all the weight you want, but if you don't come up with a replacement for eating as a source of dopamine, your chance of gaining it all (and then some!) back is very real.

I have found that dancing has worked well for me. I've found some good electro swing mixes and I stick em on when I'm cleaning up. It takes longer, but it is hard not to feel good :) I've been liking this one lately: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFh9ebba2BI


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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1466 on: March 14, 2017, 04:48:43 PM »
Funny dilemma just now - I was on my food tracking website, and had just finished entering what I've eaten so far today.  Then suddenly, it had an error message saying the site is temporarily down.  I exclaimed (to myself), "Now how am I going to figure out what to eat?!"

It's become pretty ingrained to check in at this point of the day and plan my dinner to fit in my total calorie allotment.  I guess that's a good sign.  Now to figure out what to eat.  Luckily, I'm pretty sure I had 600 calories left, so it should be easy to stay under my goal.

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1467 on: March 15, 2017, 08:03:45 AM »
So my DH has the metabolism of a humming bird and I've realized one of the things that makes losing/maintaining difficult for me is making sure he's getting enough while I'm not getting too much. He goes through at least two bags of chips every week, usually a pint or two of Ben and Jerry's, and trail mix and energy bars out the wazoo- in addition to the three meals that I prepare for him each day.

I'm thinking about buying him a mini-fridge to keep at work so he can keep a lot of the the snack foods there. He's a professor so he has his own office - but is snacking on chips and guac at work totally unprofessional? I just want it out of my house. I work from home and his delicious food just sits and taunts me all day. But he eats all that food and maintains a very healthy weight with no effort - so he clearly needs the calories that he's eating.

Will have to do some thinking about this.

Also, I always get sad and jealous (and lose my will power) when he is devouring entire pints of Ice Cream in one sitting. So I bought myself a pint of Halo Top this week. I gave myself a couple of scoops while Hus had his Cherry Garcia last night and it was pretty darn good. I usually try not to eat "diet" foods - but man - the Halo Top was totally palatable (I had the salted caramel flavor)!

SquashingDebt - your post made me giggle.

Swick - thanks for the introduction to electro swing - that should help me get through the work day in a peppy mood :)




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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1468 on: March 16, 2017, 02:51:45 PM »
@StarBright -- I agree it is a challenge, if you have lots of snacks at home. It requires a lot of will power to stay away from those.

From my end, the weight is finally trending down.

Date          Weight
1/1/2017    130
2/28/2017  133.6
3/10/2017  132.2
3/16/2017  131.0

Being more aware of what I eat (plus logging) and stopping before getting fully stuffed seems to help. Have decreased my calorie intake to some extent (5-10%). For example, I used to add peanut butter, maple syrup, and nuts to my morning oatmeal. Now I just have it with fruit only. I still enjoy my breakfast and do not need the extra calories. Every little bit helps. Those oatmeal toppings were almost adding up to 200 calories.

Also been doing regular walk/jog/run about 5 times a week. Weekdays, I do about 2 miles and on weekends, up to 4 miles.

For weight related issues, consistency is the key. Hopefully I should at least aim to get to the starting weight at the beginning of the year. 

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1469 on: March 17, 2017, 05:37:18 AM »
Friday Weigh-In:

Start Date: Feb 24: 155.4 lbs
March 3:    154 lbs
March 10: 151.6
March 17: 150.6

Snacks are my killer - If I can keep them in control (like I have for the last few weeks) Then my regular meals (which I haven't really changed from my usual) will keep me well within my maintenance calorie range.

My goal for this week is to investigate snacks that keep me full but aren't carb and calorically dense. Right now I'm relying heavily on apples with a tablespoon of peanut butter, and while that is great for now, I know I'll lose interest eventually.



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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1470 on: March 17, 2017, 07:44:31 AM »
Weight Log
12/6/16  ~265
1/7/17      256.4   
2/3/17      251.6
3/10/17    242.2
3/17/17    239.8 (-2.4)
Total: 25.2

Solid progress this week! Not all of that loss this week is from body fat - I watched my salt intake closely this week, so I expect some of that is water weight loss from lower sodium.

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1471 on: March 17, 2017, 07:48:38 AM »
wintertell you are seeing some great progress! congrats!

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« Reply #1472 on: March 17, 2017, 08:24:59 AM »
Weight Log
12/6/16  ~265
1/7/17      256.4   
2/3/17      251.6
3/10/17    242.2
3/17/17    239.8 (-2.4)
Total: 25.2

Solid progress this week! Not all of that loss this week is from body fat - I watched my salt intake closely this week, so I expect some of that is water weight loss from lower sodium.

Wow, wintertell! Go, you!

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1473 on: March 17, 2017, 11:00:48 AM »
Thanks y'all! I'm working on it! That was a big dip today, so it should be slower for the next week or so.

I was 255 at my wedding - gone
I was 245 right after grad school - hopefully gone
If I can get down to 235ish, I'll be back to the weight I was when I met my husband

Looking forward to hitting more milestones in the future, too. We'll see  : )

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« Reply #1474 on: March 18, 2017, 08:28:27 AM »
Down another 1.4 today for a total of 18.6 lost since January 14. I'll take it!

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« Reply #1475 on: March 18, 2017, 08:34:57 AM »
Down another 1.4 today for a total of 18.6 lost since January 14. I'll take it!

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1476 on: March 20, 2017, 09:52:15 AM »
Congrats everyone!  Looks like people are making good progress!

Weigh-in:

2/20: 159.5
2/26: 158.5
3/4:   155
3/7:   154.5
3/12: 153.5
3/19: 153.5

No progress this week.  I know I did a little too much cheating recently.  It's time to buckle down again, I guess!  Also, I've been doing this for a month now, so I'm pretty excited I've stuck with it.


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« Reply #1477 on: March 20, 2017, 11:50:41 AM »
Ive also finished a month, so it's a good start.  Historically I falter when the hot weather makes it hard to exercise, but the next two months of spring should be easy.

Week1: -3
Week2: -5
Week3: -6
Week4: -7

Onward and downward.

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1478 on: March 24, 2017, 09:03:52 AM »
Friday Weigh-In:

Start Date: Feb 24: 155.4 lbs
March 3:    154 lbs
March 10: 151.6
March 17: 150.6
March 24: 150.2

I'll take a .4 pound loss - I'm hormonal this week so am thrilled to see the scale stay the same rather than go up.

Successful finds for snacks included avocado toast on sprouted 7 grain bread, a sweet potato/bean dip with carrots and Yoplait Greek Whips. I'm not thrilled with the extra chemicals in the yoplait but I miss having yogurt and have a much harder time finding basic cultured milk yogurt here than I did in NC.

I wish I like hard boiled eggs, as so many people swear by them but I just do not like eggs (though I make myself choke down a scrambled egg a few times a week because my whole family loves eggs for breakfast).

Hope everyone else had great weeks! looks like everyone was trending down last week - good going all.

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1479 on: March 24, 2017, 09:06:17 AM »
StarBright, do they have Siggi's skyr where you live? It's basically Icelandic yogurt. It comes in whole milk, 2% and 0% fat versions delicious and full of protein. I have a blueberry whole milk one every afternoon!

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« Reply #1480 on: March 24, 2017, 09:18:45 AM »
My local grocery is supposed to start carrying Siggi's and Noosa soon but I haven't seen them yet.

I was so spoiled in NC and didn't even know it. I lived in a small town there but never had any problem getting local, organic, "whole" foods. Ohio seems to have a very different food culture.

For instance my grocery doesn't seem to carry much full fat yogurt at all! It all seems to be  mostly fat free (which feels very ten years ago).

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« Reply #1481 on: March 24, 2017, 09:21:42 AM »
My local grocery is supposed to start carrying Siggi's and Noosa soon but I haven't seen them yet.

I was so spoiled in NC and didn't even know it. I lived in a small town there but never had any problem getting local, organic, "whole" foods. Ohio seems to have a very different food culture.

For instance my grocery doesn't seem to carry much full fat yogurt at all! It all seems to be  mostly fat free (which feels very ten years ago).

Our Target carries Noosa - maybe check there?

I completely agree about the fat free yogurt. I switched from 0% to whole milk Siggi's and find it infinitely more satisfying and filling.

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« Reply #1482 on: March 25, 2017, 10:22:25 AM »
Well, I lost 4.2 lbs this week, though I would recommend the method to anyone. (I was extremely ill this week and missed 3 days of work.) However, those 4.2 lbs helped me bypass two goals. I'm now down more than 10% of my starting weight and also more than 20 lbs since I started on January 14th.

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« Reply #1483 on: March 25, 2017, 10:27:15 AM »
Well, I lost 4.2 lbs this week, though I would recommend the method to anyone. (I was extremely ill this week and missed 3 days of work.) However, those 4.2 lbs helped me bypass two goals. I'm now down more than 10% of my starting weight and also more than 20 lbs since I started on January 14th.

Poor Izybat! I hope you're feeling better now.

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1484 on: March 25, 2017, 04:23:15 PM »
Weight Log
12/6/16  ~265
1/7/17      256.4   
2/3/17      251.6
3/10/17    242.2
3/17/17    239.8 (-2.4)
3/25/16    242.6

Slid backwards this week - Less movement because my plantar fasciitis flared up really bad. Working on stretching the feet and will resume activity tomorrow. Onward and downward!

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1485 on: March 27, 2017, 12:30:47 PM »
Weigh-in:

2/20: 159.5
2/26: 158.5
3/4:   155
3/7:   154.5
3/12: 153.5
3/19: 153.5
3/26: 154
3/27: 152.5

Progress this morning after my weight has been up to 154 or 154.5 other days this week.  Yesterday I recorded the 154 result in MFP and then checked again this morning and I was at 152.5.  No idea what it means as I doubt I dropped 1.5 pounds overnight.  I've been discouraged all weekend at the higher numbers but feel better today as I'm hoping there's an overall trend downward?

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1486 on: March 29, 2017, 08:36:40 PM »
I've been quiet for a while - but glad to open the thread today and see some nice successes!

@begood Have u thought about making your own yogurt? I make mine in my Instant Pot and its pretty satisfying knowing I don't have to add any extra ingredients - just milk and a couple of spoonfuls of leftover yogurt (as a starter).

@QueenV That is likely the "whoosh" effect. Its very normal to hover around the same number for a week or two and then "whoosh", a big drop. You've lost a lot in only a month!

The last few months have been a struggle weight-wise. Frustrating that after starting serious weight loss in January...all I've managed to do is GAIN weight, adding on 3-5 more pounds! It's been one step forward, two steps back.

Something finally clicked about 1-2 weeks ago though and I've finally started losing consistently again. This morning, I clocked in at about what I started with in January. So back to having 10 pounds to lose.

It's not yet easy. Most nights I fight intense cravings and often think I will give in. Thankfully, more often than not, I have been able to not give in.

The one night I did have more than I should...didn't really end up affecting me. My theory now is that the body takes a while to adjust to what we do to it. So even though I believe in Calories In, Calories Out...it takes several days for the body to change direction. One bad day/meal has very minimal effect on things. And similarly, one good, low cal day does not mean a lower number the next morning. But if u stick to something, your body figures out what u are doing after a few days.

I wonder if I gained weight SO quickly in December and again these last couple of months is because I kept switching back and forth so drastically between low cal and high cal days with no consistent pattern? Even intermittent fasters have reasonably consistent patterns whereas I was just all over the map.

Anyway, that's just a pattern I think I am seeing after over a year of almost daily weigh-ins. Anyone else see the same patterns?


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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1487 on: March 30, 2017, 04:48:16 AM »
elaine amj, I can definitely relate. The "pattern" I notice is that on weekends, I have less control over what's coming my way - whether that's a social plan with friends, or my husband or daughter want to go out to eat, or whatever. So my weekend days tend to be, on the whole, less predictable and higher calorie. I've about decided that's okay, because it doesn't seem to have affected my relatively steady progress. So perhaps my body is factoring in that unpredictability? *shrug*

For those nighttime cravings... can you have a little bit of whatever you crave earlier in the day? Then you can say to yourself, "Hey, you had that, remember?" I try to do that with chocolate, which affects my sleep if I have it late in the day.

I have not tried making yogurt! I have a CrockPot so maybe I will look up a recipe. Thanks for the tip!

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1488 on: March 30, 2017, 09:19:46 AM »

The last few months have been a struggle weight-wise. Frustrating that after starting serious weight loss in January...all I've managed to do is GAIN weight, adding on 3-5 more pounds! It's been one step forward, two steps back.

Something finally clicked about 1-2 weeks ago though and I've finally started losing consistently again. This morning, I clocked in at about what I started with in January. So back to having 10 pounds to lose.

It's not yet easy. Most nights I fight intense cravings and often think I will give in. Thankfully, more often than not, I have been able to not give in.

...So even though I believe in Calories In, Calories Out...

Anyway, that's just a pattern I think I am seeing after over a year of almost daily weigh-ins. Anyone else see the same patterns?


elaine amj, I don't mean to pick on you, and really I don't have the right since I haven't been very active in the thread, although I have been following all of your journies and cheering you all on.  I figured out pretty early on in the thread that I had to do something very different and jump off the perpetual dieting cycle following the same old advice that kept me yo-yo-ing, fat and sick.

I use to believe all the same stuff, calories in, calories, out, it was just a matter of tracking, it is just a matter of having will power, calorie counting is the way to go etc.

I realize we all have different paths to the same goal and what is right for me might not be right for you, but it seems like you are struggling so much and as the bolded parts above, it doesn't seem like it is really working, and there are a lot of other people on this thread who seem to be bouncing up and down and having the same struggles.

I've basically been on one diet or another since I hit puberty. I've gained and lost hundreds of the same pounds over the years, I've been in a constant state of worry/thinking/feeling like crap/guilt spiral about what I put in my mouth. But You keep the same beliefs and doing what you always do, you will get the same results, over and over and over.

Calories in, calories out, I've come to realize, is a catchy, overly simplistic bullshit line that doesn't do anyone any good. It doesn't hold up to any of the recent science on nutrition, addiction, or HOW those calories are metabolized in the body. Food, medicine, everything, is broken down in our bodies the same ways. How they are broken down matters, how the energy is utilized or stored matters, what by-products are created from the different foods we eat matters.

Eating "Low-fat" and "low-calorie" anything that comes in a package is not going to help us. Eating sugar substitutes that still feed our psychological addiction for sweets and still mess with our biochemistry and saitey signals isn't really going to help us. Calorie counting and "cheat days" may help give us some surface control, but they aren't going to do anything long term about "why" we eat the things we eat.

With sugar being 10x as addictive as cocaine, do we think we have the will-power to have it and it is fine if it is in our calorie allowance? I use to think that way, but I was wrong and it leads to the same cycle of giving in, and feeling guilty and thinking I was a horrible person who had no will power. Rinse and repeat, and feel a little worse about myself every single time.

Dopamine release, tolerance, addiction, psychological cravings, physiological cravings, emotional humer...none of these are considered or addressed by a strict "calories in, calories out" mentality. "A calorie, is a calorie, is a calorie regardless of if it comes from steak or soda" That is the phrase that comes from the nutritionists lobbyists from the sugar/beverage industries. If they are recommending it, maybe we have to look twice.

Calorie reduction, tracking everything and the mental cycle that happens when you try and fail all can lead to some pretty unhealthy eating patterns that you can slip into without even realizing it. I have a friend who works in eating disorder recovery and she treats people who developed eating disorders mid-life and almost all of them were originally overweight, chronic dieters who slipped into unhealthy patterns after trying the usual and accepted weight loss methods - mainly calorie reduction, tracking, weighing everything etc.

Sorry, this became a long-winded rant. and I don't mean it to. I think seeing our patterns in a different light is important. All our beliefs need to be on the table for examination, especially if they might not be working for us. They might work for you and if so, awesome. All I know is I needed something different.

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Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1489 on: March 30, 2017, 09:21:20 PM »
@swick i agree in many ways that there are a lot of underlying issues around weight and that there are so many issues around "why" etc etc.

Overall I like the whole foods movement and agree with cooking from scratch, eating nutritious food, avoiding added sugars, etc etc. I just can't get overly militant about it myself (don't worry - I do cook for a husband who is very against sugar and I put a lot of effort into cooking him meals with almost no sugar. Eg he flipped out tonight looking at the nutritional label for agave syrup! He makes it even more challenging since he has started restricting fruit too. Thank goodness sweet potatoes are still on his OK list)

Part of my issues is seeing so many food trends come and go. One day carrot juice is the most amazing cure all. Then the next guru says that it is bad for u. I find it too hard to dig through all the claims so I am pretty sceptical about everything (especially when I have to peel 10lbs of carrots a week for hubby's juices). My mom has tried just about every alternative weight loss trend out there and amazingly enough, still fervently believes in every single one.

At the core though, I have seen straight calories being the main thing to determine someone's weight. Whether they get there through Whole 30, Intermittent Fasting, juicing, high protein, low carb, high fat, etc etc.

Pure calorie counting worked amazingly well for me last year. My problem was succumbing to various emotional pulls and turning to food for comfort. And then letting that become habit again. Which comes back again to how right u are that I never really addressed "why" I eat. Food for thought (pun intended lol)


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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1490 on: April 02, 2017, 05:50:29 PM »
Lost another 1.6 lbs last week for a total of 24.4 gone. Loving the progress!

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1491 on: April 03, 2017, 07:19:44 AM »
Lost another 1.6 lbs last week for a total of 24.4 gone. Loving the progress!

Yay, Izybat!

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1492 on: April 03, 2017, 07:57:45 AM »

Friday Weigh-In:

Start Date: Feb 24: 155.4 lbs
March 3:    154 lbs
March 10: 151.6
March 17: 150.6
March 24: 150.2
April 3: 149.4

A little late this week on the weight but still down even after the weekend so Hurray!

@Izybat, @runrooster, and @QueenV! Well done!

@elaine amj - Glad to see you back. Your DH's low sugar thing sounds exhausting - especially if you are the one preparing the foods. As I'm gently navigating with my DH around watching what I eat (but he has crazy caloric needs) I'm struck again by how our food intake really isn't just about us but also our families and the people we share a food environment with.

I know there are plenty of people (especially on the MFP boards) who espouse the idea that it is all on the individual losing weight and using their will power and we shouldn't inflict our food choices on family members who don't need to lose weight,etc. But that just seems insane to me (and also like a recipe for failure). I feel like working within our family food parameters is something that must be tackled for sanity's sake.


@swick - I agree with you generally and kept a whole foods diet for the last decade that kept me in the same 5 pound range with ease. However, an extra 7 pounds in whole foods this year also shows me that you can eat too much good food. I've always avoided CICO because I'm prone to be too controlling and nudge into disordered eating territory. BUT I'm currently doing CICO for the first time in about 15 years (in addition to eating whole foods) to get me back to a healthy BMI. We'll see how it goes.

@begood - I found Noosa at Target but didn't buy it because the sugar seemed really high. I'm going to keep looking for Sygii's or try making my own.

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1493 on: April 03, 2017, 11:21:34 AM »
Week1: -3
Week2: -5
Week3: -6
Week4: -7
Week5: -9
Week6: -11

I'm counting calories but the easiest way to do that is to stick to a healthy diet.  I do include fruits and use normal sugar in my tea. I eat the same basic diet most days, with one day of pizza.

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1494 on: April 07, 2017, 07:29:38 AM »
Weight Log
12/6/16  ~265
1/7/17      256.4   
2/3/17      251.6
3/10/17    242.2
4/7/2017  235.8 (-6.4)

Total Loss: 29.2 lbs
Total Percent: 11.02%

I'm in the middle of a big drop the last couple of days. I've been eating well, but not anything different from previous weeks. Maybe less salt? Anyway, it's been a huge drop this week - We will have to see if it fluctuates back up any.

Feeling pretty proud of myself. I'm very close to getting into a 18/20. I've been in the 22/24 range for most of the past 5 years. It's amazing that I'm still in the same size after almost 30 lbs! I was right on the verge of having to bump up a size, though, when I started.

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1495 on: April 07, 2017, 08:04:24 AM »

Wintertell, Rockstache and Runrooster - YAY!!!


Friday Weigh-In:

Start Date: Feb 24: 155.4 lbs
March 3:    154 lbs
March 10: 151.6
March 17: 150.6
March 24: 150.2
April 3: 149.4
April 7: 148.2

We are having a celebratory meal this weekend and I plan to embrace it: Roast chicken, lemon pasta, Caesar salad, champagne, derby pie - I will eat as much of it as I want!

Also- since losing has been far easier/quicker than I anticipated (using MFP I've lost the same amount in 1.5 months that it took me 6 months to lose last year) I'm thinking of taking a break and doing maintenance for a month or two when I get to 145. If I feel like trying to lose 5 pounds after that, I'll give it a shot but may also just be content at 145 (which has historically been my "happy since it takes little effort" weight). But all in all I'm hoping my body sort of "resets' itself at 145 and I don't want to mess it up by going below that to a number that is harder to maintain for me. Does that sound nuts?


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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1496 on: April 07, 2017, 08:09:00 AM »
Star right, that doesn't sound nuts at all! I'd like to settle at a healthy weight range that I can maintain without much effort but still allows for  the things that bring me joy. If that means Mexican food on occasion, then so be it. If 145 is your happy weight, then embrace it. Especially if you like the life you live at that weight - since that it was supports its maintenance anyway.

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1497 on: April 07, 2017, 08:12:30 AM »
Also, a weight that is attainable isn't always the same as a weight that is maintainable. And what you want to settle in and maintain, right? Try settling in for a couple of months and then see if there are things you want to do that you can't as a result of the weight you are maintaining. If yes, then sure, keep on losing 😁

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1498 on: April 07, 2017, 09:01:22 AM »
Also, a weight that is attainable isn't always the same as a weight that is maintainable. And what you want to settle in and maintain, right? Try settling in for a couple of months and then see if there are things you want to do that you can't as a result of the weight you are maintaining. If yes, then sure, keep on losing 😁

exactly! I'd probably look a lot better at 135 - but it takes effort to maintain it. Whereas, at 145 I'm in the healthy BMI range, and i look fine (but not great) but it has historically taken little to no effort to maintain it. I want to reset at "NO EFFORT" :) I'm happy to be lazy and not look perfect, but to be healthy.

I think I'm also paranoid about getting to a "low" number and setting off a cycle of Yo Yoing - I've spent my life watching my mother hit low, but non-maintainable numbers and then spend the next two years going up and then down again. I'd rather stay higher than optimal, but not YoYo.

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Re: Losing Weight in 2016
« Reply #1499 on: April 07, 2017, 10:16:05 AM »
A little slower, but still steadily going down, for my April nutritionist visit:

September 2016: 189
February 2017: 172
March 2017: 169
April 2017: 166

Goal weight: 157


 

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