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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #450 on: June 23, 2018, 05:20:40 AM »
Weekly Transparency/ Accountability
3/31 - 210lbs.  150.5 inches (legs, hips, waist, and arms)
4/7   - 206         149.5
4/14 - 207         148.5
4/21 - 209.        147
4/28 - 208.        145
5/5. - 209.         145
5/12 - 205.         143.5
5/19 - 204.        143.5
5/26 - 207.        144
6/2 - 203            142.5
6/9 - 205.           141
6/16 - 203.         141.5
6/23 - 204.         140.5

Down half inch around waist and hips each! I am down 2.5 inches around my hips and down 3.5 in. around my belly button since starting. BUT! I'm only down 6-7 lbs in weight. That's telling me I am chucking the fat and keeping a lot more lean mass than on a traditional diet. And I honestly don't even workout that often.

Some recent research in fasting shows that fasting causes your body to release growth hormone so that any muscle that is consumed during fasting is grown back after you start eating again.

I'm planning on continuing to do 3 days of fasting each week. I may give myself a week break at the end of July or so.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #451 on: June 24, 2018, 01:24:37 PM »
I am down 15 lbs since April 15, 2018. 
Very happy, my target is 5 more by July 17th before I go on a backpacking trip. 

But dang!  My hiking clothes went from a bit too tight to getting to be too loose.  I had to buy a belt and may need to take in the pants.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #452 on: June 24, 2018, 01:56:38 PM »
I am down 15 lbs since April 15, 2018. 
Very happy, my target is 5 more by July 17th before I go on a backpacking trip. 

But dang!  My hiking clothes went from a bit too tight to getting to be too loose.  I had to buy a belt and may need to take in the pants.
Nice job!!

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #453 on: June 24, 2018, 02:04:13 PM »
I am down 15 lbs since April 15, 2018. 
Very happy, my target is 5 more by July 17th before I go on a backpacking trip. 

But dang!  My hiking clothes went from a bit too tight to getting to be too loose.  I had to buy a belt and may need to take in the pants.
Nice job!!

+1. It’s a good problem to have :)

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #454 on: June 25, 2018, 06:33:15 AM »
I am down 15 lbs since April 15, 2018. 
Very happy, my target is 5 more by July 17th before I go on a backpacking trip. 

But dang!  My hiking clothes went from a bit too tight to getting to be too loose.  I had to buy a belt and may need to take in the pants.
Oh Boo Hoo.
Just kidding, nice job!

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #455 on: June 25, 2018, 11:22:14 AM »
We are going out for our anniversary tonight, will try to keep it low carb.  And, for that matter, not too expensive.  I know, I'm really romantic.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #456 on: June 30, 2018, 08:03:08 AM »
Weekly Transparency/ Accountability
3/31 - 210lbs.  150.5 inches (legs, hips, waist, and arms)
4/7   - 206         149.5
4/14 - 207         148.5
4/21 - 209.        147
4/28 - 208.        145
5/5. - 209.         145
5/12 - 205.         143.5
5/19 - 204.        143.5
5/26 - 207.        144
6/2 - 203            142.5
6/9 - 205.           141
6/16 - 203.         141.5
6/23 - 204.         140.5
6/30 - 203.         139.5

No weight movement again, but another 1/2 inch off around my waist and belly. I was for sure thinking I would not be smaller. I had some pizza after helping some friends move last night and felt a bit bloated this morning. I also was unable to make it through my 2-day fast this week. I ended up doing a few OMAD days instead.

My guess is that (and from some of the books I've read), fasting helps regulate your hormones. So when you do eat some carbs, the insulin response isn't nearly as strong.

Im glad to still be getting results! Especially since I'm not becoming skinny-fat like I have on previous diet attempts. I think I have enough data to put a graph together to see a trend. So I'll put one together for next week!

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #457 on: June 30, 2018, 08:33:12 AM »
Creating the graph, I realized that I hit the 3 month mark with my strategy. But also I thought the graph would be of interest here (attached).

Weight is erratic, but inches are a much more reliable measure. I'm glad I'm measuring both. It keeps me grounded. They both have a general downward trend, but I wouldn't be surprised to see weight stay stable while I continue to drop inches. I think a lot of this is because I'm really trying to drop the last 20 lbs. (Which hey, I'm almost half way there!). But it's also hard to guess what an inch goal would be. Do I just keep going until I think I look lean enough? It'd be nice to know what a good inch goal would be, but then again my weight goal is also a complete guess also.

When you have 50+ lbs to lose, weight comes off fast, but even then, you'll have weight stalls, but you may still be losing inches (ie fat)! Your body needs time to break down the now unused proteins: the unused skin, repair internal damage to different organs like your liver or kidneys. It needs time to rebuild those metabolic pathways that it hasn't used in years.

Keep at it everyone!

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #458 on: July 07, 2018, 05:33:03 AM »
Weekly Transparency/ Accountability
3/31 - 210lbs.  150.5 inches (legs, hips, waist, and arms)
4/28 - 208.        145
5/26 - 207.        144
6/2 - 203            142.5
6/9 - 205.           141
6/16 - 203.         141.5
6/23 - 204.         140.5
6/30 - 203.         139.5
7/7.  - 200           138


Consolidating a few of the earlier numbers.

I've honestly been expecting to stall again pretty soon, but I keep hitting better numbers each week! I remember when I was doing strict dirty keto, and when I had hit 200, I was honestly feeling terrible. I was lethargic and barely had any energy. If anyone here gets to that point STOP!

Hitting 200 now, I have much better energy. My body has changed a lot. My appetite has changed a lot. My eating schedule has been:
Sunday : slow carb
Monday: Fast
Tuesday: Fast til dinner/ slow carb
Wednesday: Fast til dinner /slow carb
Thursday: Slow Carb
Friday: Slow Carb
Saturday: Cheat day (Measurement day also)

So if you need to find something to tweak, try restricting your eating hours. Don't eat after 8pm. Sleep! If your Keto, eat good meats! The Omega-6 meats will eventually catch up with you.

How is everybody else fairing?

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #459 on: July 07, 2018, 07:43:34 AM »
I’ve been forgetting to post updates here, I am weighing in at 191.4-192.6 this week. So over 50 pounds down at this point.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #460 on: July 16, 2018, 05:22:02 AM »
We’re in. I last did low carb diet via 4HB about 6ish years ago.

After we booked a cruise to celebrate our 25th anniversary, DW declared all 3 of us would go Keto about week and a half ago.

my start weight was 195, now 186. DWs starting/current weight is a state secret that even I don’t have clearance for 😀

We fly for the cruise on July 15, I’ll remember to chime in with progress by then.

Ok, so here we are before boarding.

Starting weight 195 (12jun)
Precruise weight 179.6 (15jul)

Decent. See you all next week :)

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #461 on: July 21, 2018, 04:21:30 AM »
Weekly Transparency/ Accountability
3/31 - 210lbs.  150.5 inches (legs, hips, waist, and arms)
4/28 - 208.        145
5/26 - 207.        144
6/2 - 203            142.5
6/9 - 205.           141
6/16 - 203.         141.5
6/23 - 204.         140.5
6/30 - 203.         139.5
7/7.  - 200           138
7/14 - 199.          137
7/21 - 201.           137


Not much movement over the past couple weeks. My body didn't seem to be able to go as hard on the fasting. I did some single days and had a sick day at some point.

Weight loss definitely comes in stalls and wooshes. So I'm glad to be in a stall right now. It gives my body some time to readjust and learn that this is the new normal. It also gives me a little break from the hard core multiday fasting.

I have family visiting soon, so I may hold off on 2-3 day fasts until August. Maybe I'll just play it by ear.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #462 on: August 17, 2018, 03:04:22 PM »
1/1 - 194.4 lbs
2/1 - 190.2 lbs <-- began keto this month instead of just low carb
3/1 - 183.9 lbs
4/1 - 179.5 lbs
5/1 - 175.7 lbs
6/1 - 169.8 lbs
7/1 - 168.4 lbs
8/1 - 166.0 lbs

8/17 - 162.5 lbs

Just wanted to update as I near my goal of 150. I hope to speed things up a little bit and knock this out in less than 2 months.

I do feel disappointed to some degree of how slow I lost the weight. It is my understanding that you can go as high as 2 lbs a week of weight loss with negligible muscle loss. However, this slow keto works. The journey has been pleasant.

Through this process so far I've learned a lot. You can't out exercise a bad diet (easily). Food is an addiction. Eating excessive amounts of food for long periods of time will make it harder to feel full. People are quiet about excessive/unhealthy eating, but people will more than freak out if you skip meals or eat healthy foods too often.

Anyway, I hope you're all doing well on your journeys.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #463 on: August 17, 2018, 03:43:39 PM »
1/1 - 194.4 lbs
2/1 - 190.2 lbs <-- began keto this month instead of just low carb
3/1 - 183.9 lbs
4/1 - 179.5 lbs
5/1 - 175.7 lbs
6/1 - 169.8 lbs
7/1 - 168.4 lbs
8/1 - 166.0 lbs

8/17 - 162.5 lbs

Just wanted to update as I near my goal of 150. I hope to speed things up a little bit and knock this out in less than 2 months.

I do feel disappointed to some degree of how slow I lost the weight. It is my understanding that you can go as high as 2 lbs a week of weight loss with negligible muscle loss. However, this slow keto works. The journey has been pleasant.

Through this process so far I've learned a lot. You can't out exercise a bad diet (easily). Food is an addiction. Eating excessive amounts of food for long periods of time will make it harder to feel full. People are quiet about excessive/unhealthy eating, but people will more than freak out if you skip meals or eat healthy foods too often.

Anyway, I hope you're all doing well on your journeys.

What!?

You're losing 4lbs per month. That is awesome! And you haven't bounced back. So if you're still feeling good and keeping the weight off, then you're doing amazing!

It's been a while since I've updated, so I might do that on my measure day tomorrow. I've been trying to tackle my last 20lbs, and I think I've only averaged 2 per month so far.

Keep at it! The goal is to balance and fix your hormones. That's the best path to long term weight loss. And that takes time. You're doing great!

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #464 on: August 22, 2018, 02:39:12 PM »
Please ignore if this isn't the right place to ask, but does anyone have good suggestions for keto take to work lunches in addition to salads? Nothing wrong with a salad loaded with chicken, cheese and hard boiled eggs, but we need to mix it up.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #465 on: August 23, 2018, 08:30:26 AM »
Please ignore if this isn't the right place to ask, but does anyone have good suggestions for keto take to work lunches in addition to salads? Nothing wrong with a salad loaded with chicken, cheese and hard boiled eggs, but we need to mix it up.

I always go with convienence for lunch. My go-to lately is canned tuna in oil, mustard, and jalapeno.

I also used some fresh mozzarella slices on a salad as well with a baslamic vinegar reduction on top. Very yummy.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #466 on: August 23, 2018, 08:43:41 AM »
1/1 - 194.4 lbs
2/1 - 190.2 lbs <-- began keto this month instead of just low carb
3/1 - 183.9 lbs
4/1 - 179.5 lbs
5/1 - 175.7 lbs
6/1 - 169.8 lbs
7/1 - 168.4 lbs
8/1 - 166.0 lbs

8/17 - 162.5 lbs

Just wanted to update as I near my goal of 150. I hope to speed things up a little bit and knock this out in less than 2 months.

I do feel disappointed to some degree of how slow I lost the weight. It is my understanding that you can go as high as 2 lbs a week of weight loss with negligible muscle loss. However, this slow keto works. The journey has been pleasant.

Through this process so far I've learned a lot. You can't out exercise a bad diet (easily). Food is an addiction. Eating excessive amounts of food for long periods of time will make it harder to feel full. People are quiet about excessive/unhealthy eating, but people will more than freak out if you skip meals or eat healthy foods too often.

Anyway, I hope you're all doing well on your journeys.

What!?

You're losing 4lbs per month. That is awesome! And you haven't bounced back. So if you're still feeling good and keeping the weight off, then you're doing amazing!

It's been a while since I've updated, so I might do that on my measure day tomorrow. I've been trying to tackle my last 20lbs, and I think I've only averaged 2 per month so far.

Keep at it! The goal is to balance and fix your hormones. That's the best path to long term weight loss. And that takes time. You're doing great!

Thanks! You and furrychicken helped me a lot with motivation. Simply not gaining weight is progress. Simply eating better is progress. Fixing bad habits is progress. And while I'm excited about the destination, the journey has become the best part.



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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #467 on: August 23, 2018, 09:17:26 AM »
Please ignore if this isn't the right place to ask, but does anyone have good suggestions for keto take to work lunches in addition to salads? Nothing wrong with a salad loaded with chicken, cheese and hard boiled eggs, but we need to mix it up.

i keep a bottle of MCT oil on my desk and sip a tsp or two when i feel like eating carbs.  it's easily bio-available so the energy boost is almost immediate.  a good substitute for carbos.  a jar of almond butter serves about the same purpose.

i also have a bottle of olive oil and salt/pepper so i can bring a leftover piece of steak or pork chop, slice it thin and drench it in oil, salt and pepper.

chomps beef sticks or other dried meat.  you have to either make your own or be midful of the ingredients so you don't get sugar or preservative loaded beef sticks.  drying my own meat is on a list of things to figure out because the chomps are pretty $$.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #468 on: August 27, 2018, 10:38:15 AM »
Make some bunless cheeseburgers.  If you use lots of seasoning you don't mind that they're reheated.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #469 on: August 28, 2018, 11:07:49 AM »
Peter Attia breaking it down for med students:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDFxdkck354


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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #470 on: August 29, 2018, 05:16:32 AM »
Hi, everyone!

I just found this thread. Clearly it is the place for me! 

I am just starting my current version of a low carb journey.   I am 5'7 and weighed in at 200 pounds 2 weeks ago.   I am desperate to lose weight and feel better and have more energy.

I have a disabled husband and two teenagers who all need to gain or maintain weight, so meal prep is a little tricky for me.   I don't enjoy exercise but am learning to.  I was a daily drinker of alcohol until one month ago but am committed to changing that.

I had one experience with the Atkins diet back when I was a breastfeeding mom and got scared at how quickly I was losing weight -- it happened so fast!   I love eating low carb if someone would just prepare all my meals for me.

I'm going to measure not just weight, but inches as well, so as to maybe have a chance of seeing more progress.   I have a serious tummy/hips/butt problem.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #471 on: August 29, 2018, 08:38:40 PM »
I'll be in.

My macros:

2100 calories per day.

5% carbs

39% protein

57% fat

I'm running a 25% caloric deficit. Note, with the higher protein content this is not medical/traditional ketosis, but ketosis geared to fat loss. Phinney's book (which I am in the middle of) talks about this, I think.

I'm using carb manager to track, and joined the FB group Ketogenic Intermittent Fasting.

Down 10 pounds in a little under a week. Mostly water weight, but it sure feels good not to have edema.

I'm going to quote my own post to update. I wish I had posted my initial weight, but If I remember correctly it was 290. I had started at 303 at the beginning of the year and had dropped 10 with caloric restriction alone.

Today's weight: 257 lbs. so I have dropped 33 pounds on keto, and 46 lbs. total since the beginning of the year.

fifty pounds to go.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #472 on: August 29, 2018, 11:43:03 PM »
I've seen you guys mention the movie The Magic Pill. So I watched the trailer. It looks like it focuses on cutting out processed foods / refined flours / refined sugars. Is that pretty much the message or is there something I'm missing?  IDK why it's not coming up on netflix for me - maybe because I'm outside of the US right now. Anyway, if there were some major take-aways from that movie would you mind sharing?

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #473 on: August 30, 2018, 07:05:28 AM »
Hi, everyone!

I just found this thread. Clearly it is the place for me! 

I am just starting my current version of a low carb journey.   I am 5'7 and weighed in at 200 pounds 2 weeks ago.   I am desperate to lose weight and feel better and have more energy.

I have a disabled husband and two teenagers who all need to gain or maintain weight, so meal prep is a little tricky for me.   I don't enjoy exercise but am learning to.  I was a daily drinker of alcohol until one month ago but am committed to changing that.

I had one experience with the Atkins diet back when I was a breastfeeding mom and got scared at how quickly I was losing weight -- it happened so fast!   I love eating low carb if someone would just prepare all my meals for me.

I'm going to measure not just weight, but inches as well, so as to maybe have a chance of seeing more progress.   I have a serious tummy/hips/butt problem.

welcome to the thread.  thank you so much for dropping the booze.  i know how hard that can be and i guarantee you will feel better mentally and physically!  there are a lot of online resources to help with that so if you need suggestions let me know.

intermittent fasting will be key to getting your shape back and dropping weight.  changing your macros will be a huge game changer but fasting/time restricted eating will help to reset your insulin response and metabolism. 

------------ reposting what i consider important:

Peter Attia breaking it down for med students:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDFxdkck354

keto is not all about weight loss.  it's about getting control of your glucose intake and your insulin response, which in the typical western diet is completely dysfunctional.  it's about feeling like you can go for a few hours without constantly eating, and getting off the carb/glucose roller coaster.  it's about the mental clarity and suppression of inflammation throughout the body.

find joe rogan podcasts on youtube or wherever with the following guests.  his interview format is perfect for really hashing out the details.  each one is 2-3 hours long.
dom d'agostino (clinical researcher, studying keto specifically)
gary taubes
peter attia
kelly brogan (women's health)
nina teicholz (wrote The Big Fat Lie book)
robb wolf
rhonda patrick
shawn baker (meat only diet)

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #474 on: September 12, 2018, 01:27:12 PM »
 not keto specific but there's some good info..

Chris Kresser: How to Win an Argument With a Paleo Critic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4rIBAmfoMk

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #475 on: September 12, 2018, 03:34:38 PM »
not keto specific but there's some good info..

Chris Kresser: How to Win an Argument With a Paleo Critic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4rIBAmfoMk
Chris Kresser has some good stuff, but I stopped paying attention to him when he came out as anti-vax. :/  Can't support that shit.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #476 on: September 23, 2018, 05:48:08 PM »
I had some success with this eating plan, but then fell off in the summer (for a 8 day backpacking trip, so worth it) and never jumped back... until yesterday.

I hope that in 5 days I will be back to it.  Wish me luck.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #477 on: September 23, 2018, 06:03:11 PM »
Not on a keto diet per se. I started intermittent fasting(8hr/16hr) combined with lower carb/high protein in early July and got myself back into the gym. I went from 225 lbs. down to 189 lbs. today. I actually have a six pack coming in strong! Eating cheap has really motivated me and I am feeling great.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #478 on: September 28, 2018, 08:59:08 AM »
I'll be in.

My macros:

2100 calories per day.

5% carbs

39% protein

57% fat

I'm running a 25% caloric deficit. Note, with the higher protein content this is not medical/traditional ketosis, but ketosis geared to fat loss. Phinney's book (which I am in the middle of) talks about this, I think.

I'm using carb manager to track, and joined the FB group Ketogenic Intermittent Fasting.

Down 10 pounds in a little under a week. Mostly water weight, but it sure feels good not to have edema.

I'm going to quote my own post to update. I wish I had posted my initial weight, but If I remember correctly it was 290. I had started at 303 at the beginning of the year and had dropped 10 with caloric restriction alone.

Today's weight: 257 lbs. so I have dropped 33 pounds on keto, and 46 lbs. total since the beginning of the year.

fifty pounds to go.

Down to 246 this morning, so a loss of 8-9 pounds this month. I have been hitting the gym to avoid muscle loss.

46 lbs to go.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #479 on: September 28, 2018, 09:00:52 AM »
not keto specific but there's some good info..

Chris Kresser: How to Win an Argument With a Paleo Critic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4rIBAmfoMk
Chris Kresser has some good stuff, but I stopped paying attention to him when he came out as anti-vax. :/  Can't support that shit.

Didn't know he had expressed reservations about vaccinations.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #480 on: September 28, 2018, 10:21:59 AM »
not keto specific but there's some good info..

Chris Kresser: How to Win an Argument With a Paleo Critic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4rIBAmfoMk
Chris Kresser has some good stuff, but I stopped paying attention to him when he came out as anti-vax. :/  Can't support that shit.

Didn't know he had expressed reservations about vaccinations.
He personally has not vaccinated his kid.  It was on one of his podcasts.  He compared vaccination (granted a bit tongue in cheek) to abortion in the context of "not wanting to open up that can of worms."  So he's not only personally part of the problem, he's in a position of authority pretending there's an actual debate there.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #481 on: October 01, 2018, 12:18:01 PM »
not keto specific but there's some good info..

Chris Kresser: How to Win an Argument With a Paleo Critic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4rIBAmfoMk
Chris Kresser has some good stuff, but I stopped paying attention to him when he came out as anti-vax. :/  Can't support that shit.

Didn't know he had expressed reservations about vaccinations.
He personally has not vaccinated his kid.  It was on one of his podcasts.  He compared vaccination (granted a bit tongue in cheek) to abortion in the context of "not wanting to open up that can of worms."  So he's not only personally part of the problem, he's in a position of authority pretending there's an actual debate there.
let's keep this thread on track.  i purposely did not respond to ketchup's comment hoping the vax/antivax morass would not sink this thread.  i have created a thread for ketchup and any others who wish to discuss it here:  https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/off-topic/chris-kresser-vax-or-anti-vax/

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #482 on: October 01, 2018, 12:21:15 PM »
New Rogan podcast with Layne Norton and Dom D'Agostino:  https://youtu.be/u93oh9kC-rU

they cover a lot of high level nutrition science, comparing keto to other methods of weight loss, natural bodybuilding etc.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #483 on: October 01, 2018, 12:22:40 PM »
not keto specific but there's some good info..

Chris Kresser: How to Win an Argument With a Paleo Critic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4rIBAmfoMk
Chris Kresser has some good stuff, but I stopped paying attention to him when he came out as anti-vax. :/  Can't support that shit.

Didn't know he had expressed reservations about vaccinations.
He personally has not vaccinated his kid.  It was on one of his podcasts.  He compared vaccination (granted a bit tongue in cheek) to abortion in the context of "not wanting to open up that can of worms."  So he's not only personally part of the problem, he's in a position of authority pretending there's an actual debate there.
let's keep this thread on track.  i purposely did not respond to ketchup's comment hoping the vax/antivax morass would not sink this thread.  i have created a thread for ketchup and any others who wish to discuss it here:  https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/off-topic/chris-kresser-vax-or-anti-vax/
I don't think it has sunk the thread.  I don't have anything else to add.  There aren't any non-trolls on this site I'm aware of that are actually anti-vax (we had a couple fun threads all by the same poster a while back) so I don't expect any more to come of this.

On topic: GF is down 74lbs now over the past ~13 months, lots of it thanks to keto but mostly just portion control and staying active.  She just got back from a week long work trip where she brought all of her own food frozen in a checked bag and it went swimmingly well.  She brought a cauliflower shepherd's pie, chicken breast and peppers, a homemade keto coffee creamer and cold brew coffee concentrate, and the greatest recipe, keto or otherwise, known to man: https://thatpaleocouple.com/2012/03/05/curried-ground-pork-with-carrots-and-celery/ .  Plus some shitty Atkins bars for "emergencies" (she didn't end up eating all of them).
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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #484 on: October 01, 2018, 02:55:33 PM »
So "discovered" another low carb version of a favorite comfort food.  No more macaroni and cheese.  It's now cauliflower and cheese.  I took steamed cauliflower and cut it up small (but not as small as elbow mac) and poured my traditional cheese sauce over it.  Baked it like I would the original dish and, yep - yummy.  Turns out what I like about mac and cheese is the cheese sauce and cauliflower is a decent medium to hold it together.

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« Reply #485 on: October 01, 2018, 03:23:59 PM »
So "discovered" another low carb version of a favorite comfort food.  No more macaroni and cheese.  It's now cauliflower and cheese.  I took steamed cauliflower and cut it up small (but not as small as elbow mac) and poured my traditional cheese sauce over it.  Baked it like I would the original dish and, yep - yummy.  Turns out what I like about mac and cheese is the cheese sauce and cauliflower is a decent medium to hold it together.
Cauliflower is great, as is cauliflower "rice."  I used to make a rice-and-eggs meal pretty often and cauliflower-rice-and-eggs works just as well if not better.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #486 on: October 02, 2018, 04:55:42 AM »
Last month was my first foray into low-carb eating for quite a long time, and I was really motivated by how fast the weight was coming off. 

Then I got sick last Monday and started eating carbs again (soup and saltines, at first. Then bread, pasta, and snacks....Cookies with my tea....  I can eat a lot of carbs.  It really makes me feel good.   

I didn't do too much damage, weight wise, but now a week has gone by and I need to get back on track.  At the very least I need to exercise a lot more portion control if I am going to eat the carbs.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #487 on: October 02, 2018, 06:05:47 AM »
So "discovered" another low carb version of a favorite comfort food.  No more macaroni and cheese.  It's now cauliflower and cheese.  I took steamed cauliflower and cut it up small (but not as small as elbow mac) and poured my traditional cheese sauce over it.  Baked it like I would the original dish and, yep - yummy.  Turns out what I like about mac and cheese is the cheese sauce and cauliflower is a decent medium to hold it together.
Cauliflower is great, as is cauliflower "rice."  I used to make a rice-and-eggs meal pretty often and cauliflower-rice-and-eggs works just as well if not better.
Yep.  I'm pretty much trying out all my recipes that call for potatoes, rice or pasta and substituting with cauliflower. So far so good.  I haven't tried the cauliflower pizza dough yet.  I tried the almond flour one and hated it.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #488 on: October 02, 2018, 06:48:50 AM »
So "discovered" another low carb version of a favorite comfort food.  No more macaroni and cheese.  It's now cauliflower and cheese.  I took steamed cauliflower and cut it up small (but not as small as elbow mac) and poured my traditional cheese sauce over it.  Baked it like I would the original dish and, yep - yummy.  Turns out what I like about mac and cheese is the cheese sauce and cauliflower is a decent medium to hold it together.
Cauliflower cheese is a classic British favourite, usually as a side-dish with a roast dinner. It's really nice if done right, good to see others discovering it :)

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #489 on: October 02, 2018, 07:49:26 AM »
I'm starting a new job next week and am going to try to start meal prepping more. While I'm no longer doing keto, I'd like to stay low-carb.

Trying to think of good options for office lunches other than roll-ups and salads (greens or meats). :-)

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #490 on: October 03, 2018, 04:56:27 AM »
congrats on the new job lexde!!

I also am in need of easy to prep lunch ideas.  I like these low carb rice crackers thingies (will look up the brand name) along with tuna or egg salad.  I also like smoked trout salad (mixed with lots of celery, a zero carb pickle relish, and a lot of dill).  And maybe an avocado.   

If I do manage to bring a salad to work, I like it if it has fancier greens like arugula, and also some walnuts.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #491 on: October 03, 2018, 08:52:11 AM »
So "discovered" another low carb version of a favorite comfort food.  No more macaroni and cheese.  It's now cauliflower and cheese.  I took steamed cauliflower and cut it up small (but not as small as elbow mac) and poured my traditional cheese sauce over it.  Baked it like I would the original dish and, yep - yummy.  Turns out what I like about mac and cheese is the cheese sauce and cauliflower is a decent medium to hold it together.
Cauliflower cheese is a classic British favourite, usually as a side-dish with a roast dinner. It's really nice if done right, good to see others discovering it :)

Huh. Just looked this up online and who knew this was a thing across the pond.  Got any more low carb recipes over there not common here?

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #492 on: January 03, 2019, 04:28:54 AM »
Haven't seen this thread updated in awhile.

I ended 2018 sitting at a weight of 233. That means I lost approximately 70 lbs. this year.

For 2019, I want to drop the remaining 35 lbs. and get to 200, which is close to my ideal weight.

My last Dexa scan showed a loss of 20 lbs, 19.5 of which was fat.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #493 on: March 02, 2019, 06:58:53 PM »
I've been through many pages of this thread without finding an answer to my question, so might as well ask.

Seems like the main reason why people do keto diet is for weight loss. But I've read that being in ketosis has many other health benefits such as better mental clarity and sharpness, no more ''brain fog'', more energy, reduced inflammation, clear skin, etc.

Personnally, I'm more attracted by those health benefits, since i don't have a lot of weigth to loose. I'm intered to know if some of you felt some of those benefits?

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #494 on: March 02, 2019, 09:02:44 PM »
I’ve been forgetting to post updates here, I am weighing in at 191.4-192.6 this week. So over 50 pounds down at this point.
Nice work!

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #495 on: March 02, 2019, 09:05:44 PM »
I can't figure out if I am posting on this thread or the weight loss thread.

Down to 227. Lost so far: 75 pounds.

I had to buy new workout gear, and the last of my old clothes will be going to Goodwill next week.

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« Reply #496 on: March 03, 2019, 09:08:30 AM »
Okay, I'm joining. Somewhat begrudgingly, but will try to be positive. I say begrudgingly, because my husband has been coerced into doing keto as they are trying to get to the bottom of food allergies. He's had hives for months & the keto diet has completely eliminated that. How does that relate to me? Well, making multiple meals/day is really starting to wear on me & while I was resistant to changing my diet, I've been super impressed by my husband's weight loss (and, he really didn't have much weight to lose) & energy levels.

So, here I am. I'd love to lose weight (15 pounds would be awesome, but probably 25 would be on the thin side for my frame). I already work out a lot, and know that I do best on a more low carb diet. I'm also raising teen boys, who work out a ton, and do love carbs, so it's a balance.

My plan is to do a modified low carb:
-Cut easy carbs where possible (bread, pastas, etc)
-Eliminate sugary foods (candy, treats). This is normally very easy for me, but I've fallen into a bit of a rut
-I don't plan to eliminate any fruit or veggies, and should instead focus on increasing my produce consumption
-Decide what to do with wine/champagne. I drink wine/champagne only on weekends, but I'm guessing this is not great

Next week will be my first real week of giving this a shot. I'll typically also try to provide a carb/starchy side for teen boys at each dinner.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #497 on: March 04, 2019, 07:55:35 AM »
I've been through many pages of this thread without finding an answer to my question, so might as well ask.

Seems like the main reason why people do keto diet is for weight loss. But I've read that being in ketosis has many other health benefits such as better mental clarity and sharpness, no more ''brain fog'', more energy, reduced inflammation, clear skin, etc.

Personnally, I'm more attracted by those health benefits, since i don't have a lot of weigth to loose. I'm intered to know if some of you felt some of those benefits?

Yes.  i'm 5'11" and went from 165 to 155 on keto and have kept on the low-carb lifestyle for the resulting gut health.  it turns out that eating a lot of processed grain makes my gut feel bloated and shitty.  when i started keto i felt an immediate benefit to cognitive and gut health, but you soon adapt to that and it's not as mind blowing after 6 months or so.  that's why a lot of people don't continue long term.  but once i got fat adapted, my life changed.  i'm not hungry all the time.  i don't have the 3pm crash.  mind fog is greatly reduced.  gut health is pretty good.  and i was never a fat or majorly unhealthy person.  maybe just a weakling, lol.  a skinny guy.

if you're interested in the science behind it, search upthread for my lists of Rogan podcasts and youtube links. 

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« Reply #498 on: March 04, 2019, 08:10:08 AM »
Okay, I'm joining. Somewhat begrudgingly, but will try to be positive. I say begrudgingly, because my husband has been coerced into doing keto as they are trying to get to the bottom of food allergies. He's had hives for months & the keto diet has completely eliminated that. How does that relate to me? Well, making multiple meals/day is really starting to wear on me & while I was resistant to changing my diet, I've been super impressed by my husband's weight loss (and, he really didn't have much weight to lose) & energy levels.

So, here I am. I'd love to lose weight (15 pounds would be awesome, but probably 25 would be on the thin side for my frame). I already work out a lot, and know that I do best on a more low carb diet. I'm also raising teen boys, who work out a ton, and do love carbs, so it's a balance.

My plan is to do a modified low carb:
-Cut easy carbs where possible (bread, pastas, etc)
-Eliminate sugary foods (candy, treats). This is normally very easy for me, but I've fallen into a bit of a rut
-I don't plan to eliminate any fruit or veggies, and should instead focus on increasing my produce consumption
-Decide what to do with wine/champagne. I drink wine/champagne only on weekends, but I'm guessing this is not great

Next week will be my first real week of giving this a shot. I'll typically also try to provide a carb/starchy side for teen boys at each dinner.

this is basically what i did.  they call it lazy keto.  i didn't count grams or get too technical about it.  i went to zero grain, low dairy, no alcohol (tho i had already stopped for migraine issues) and in the beginning i cut out all desserts except for one cheat.  my sweet cheat is chocolate bars, of which i do count grams.  a handful of berries is fine.  nuts can be carby but a lot of my diet is nuts these days.  stick to the lower carb nuts and count grams til you get a feel for how much carb you're getting.

i cranked up the steak, bacon, avocado.. and i HIGHLY recommend getting a bottle of MCT oil.  take a swig when you get hungry and it will instantly fuel you up.  there will be mild nausea for 5 min when you start taking it straight so be ready for that but know it will pass quickly.  and as above, if you're interested in the science search for my posts up thread.

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Re: Keto & Low-Carb Challenge
« Reply #499 on: March 04, 2019, 02:26:04 PM »
@MDfive21 - thanks for the background. Super helpful. My husband has MCT oil, so I'll check it out. I go in phases with sugar, and have been eating more than normal. Just need to give up the "treats" cold turkey!