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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #4200 on: January 02, 2017, 07:14:52 PM »
Brought some of the Christmas leftover snacks to my ILs when we visited this weekend. New place and they had no food. So it's a win-win.

On the other hand, my mom visited... and brought a box full of Christmas decor >.<
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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #4201 on: January 02, 2017, 07:45:23 PM »
Jumping in. Today, got rid of some old shoes, cosmetics, miscellaneous stuff that wasn't being used. Not a ton of stuff, but you've got to start somewhere, right? I'm aiming to do a little every day until my life is clutter free.

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« Reply #4202 on: January 02, 2017, 07:47:15 PM »
Jumping in. Today, got rid of some old shoes, cosmetics, miscellaneous stuff that wasn't being used. Not a ton of stuff, but you've got to start somewhere, right? I'm aiming to do a little every day until my life is clutter free.

That's a great start, mrsstache. Keep up the good work.

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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #4203 on: January 02, 2017, 07:56:04 PM »
I have got rid of a bag of kitchen things for free on FB - well nearly - someone needs to pick them up. I find when I give away free stuff people are quite flaky, not turning up, or saying that they want something on a public post but not expending the energy to message me to find out the pick up address. Awkward.

I've now freed up a kitchen drawer which in the long run will mean we can have an under-sink in-cupboard bin. We don't really have floorspace for a bin so it kind of gets in the way.


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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #4204 on: January 02, 2017, 08:50:31 PM »
Jumping in. Today, got rid of some old shoes, cosmetics, miscellaneous stuff that wasn't being used. Not a ton of stuff, but you've got to start somewhere, right? I'm aiming to do a little every day until my life is clutter free.

I am starting the year off with the Minimalism Game. On the first day of January I got rid of one thing. Today I donated two things. Tomorrow, three things. So on and so on until at the end of the month I will find 30 things to dispose of on the 30th. I try to sell, donate, or recycle things first, and only toss what can't be reused.

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« Reply #4205 on: January 02, 2017, 09:32:30 PM »
I've now freed up a kitchen drawer which in the long run will mean we can have an under-sink in-cupboard bin. We don't really have floorspace for a bin so it kind of gets in the way.

Awesome. Love when decluttering results in a win like that.

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« Reply #4206 on: January 02, 2017, 09:37:50 PM »
Rearranged the crib area, got rid of some boxes and covers and got all paper to one area that I'll go through tomorrow. Also set to clear up two closets tomorrow.

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« Reply #4207 on: January 03, 2017, 04:55:57 AM »

I kept wearing them around the house. The elastic gave out so much I was using a hair elastic to ratchet them on. Then there was a bleach incident and the holey khaki fabric became white and pink at the ankles.

It was time.

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My husband brought me some trousers to 'mend' yesterday. He was like, "there's a hole here, if you could just patch it. But maybe extend the patch up? It's already thin here". I asked about the other leg, I had already patched it, but where the patch ended it was weak and maybe they needed a further strenghtening patch there. And since I was already at it, this part needs reinforcing too.

In the end I was like, "so basically just make you a new pair of trousers, but inside this pair?". Apparently they are his favourites.


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« Reply #4208 on: January 03, 2017, 05:08:17 AM »
Sold another item on Craigslist yesterday.  I still have a few things listed but they fell way down so I will repost them this week.  Got the new Marie Kondo book from the library to give me some fresh motivation to continue with my efforts. 

I am planning to put together another batch of clothing for consignment this week.  There are definitely things in my closet that I don't wear.



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« Reply #4209 on: January 03, 2017, 09:44:19 AM »
It worked!

As you said, from a pdf I got full Kindle, text size changes, etc.  I never email kindle so I had to find my email address first  ;-)

I wish I had done this while I was still working, it would have been nice to take online journal papers and "kindleize" them so they were easy to read on a laptop or tablet.

I've been sorting books too.  The ones I want to hold on to are old ones that the library doesn't have, but some of them are old enough they are on Gutenberg.ca (I'm in Canada and respecting Canadian copyright limits - Australia has the same limits we do so I may also download from them).  If I can have an e-book version I am OK with donating the paper version.

Question: Has anyone downloaded Gutenberg books and if yes, what e-reader did you download to read them with?  I will be reading on a desktop (Windows 7) and a tablet (Android).

Related question: Also some slightly more recent ones are now on Kindle, but they cost, and I already own the paper version!  A lot are free on Amazon Kindle Prime.  Canadian Kindle Prime users, how easy is it to download lots and lots of free books and then get off Kindle Prime?  It is the only reason I would sign up for it.

On a "gone" note, all my Kathy Reichs and Dana Stabenow mysteries are in the donate pile.  A lot of my Tony Hillerman ones too (the ones the library has).  Progress.


On Gutenberg books: Kindle is my preferred, and sometimes it's an option (.mobi files). Failing that, usually I'll convert a text or PDF file to kindle (email to your kindle device address with the subject line "convert" - instructions on Amazon if you search).  I like that format for readability, for exporting notes usually for students and for the ability to pick up and read where I left off on any kind of device. I have the Kindle app for Idevices, Android, and Windows.
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A few were mobi files and are now on my Kindle.
Most of the books were html or text - I saved to Word.  If I save those Word documents to PDF this should work?  I just email to my Kindle address, subject line convert, and send the files as attachments?


Yes.  Apparently, you can also send other document formats (like Word) and read them in kindle, but sending a PDF with the convert command gives you access to more of the Kindle functions. Here's a link:


https://www.amazon.com/gp/sendtokindle/email


 There's also an app that will convert various ebook files to other formats. I haven't tried it yet, but I think I'm going to. It's called Calibre.


 Fabulous! Yes, I've done it for a lot of things for work.

If any of you need assistance with Calibre, I can help. I've been using it and my kindle (and tablets) consistently for over 5 years. I've yet to find anything it can't do. I have over 6000 books in my library.
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« Reply #4210 on: January 03, 2017, 10:56:40 AM »
Does anyone else have parents who keep giving you their (mostly worthless) stuff to sell online? I've got a couple rubbermaid bins of Stuff from my mother. She has expressed to me that she does NOT want it donated or given away; she wants money for it. Ugh.

I've hauled this Stuff through the last two moves and we're hoping to move again in spring. I do not want to haul it through yet another move. I have had this stuff listed on Craigslist, ebay, Facebook yard sale groups, etc. for literally years and I've now given up. No one wants to pay money for this. Of course, my mother will not believe this because "they're collectibles! They're worth something!" She cannot sell it herself online as she doesn't have a computer, smartphone, or Internet service, and her HOA doesn't allow yard sales so she can't sell it in person.

I only took this stuff from her in the first place because she has hoarding tendencies and I was happy to see her willing to let stuff leave her house. Now it's in MY house and I can't seem to get anyone to buy it!

The way I see it, my options (other than continue hanging onto it, which will piss off Boyfriend) are:

- Give it all back to her. I no longer have a car, and it's too much to haul onto public transport, so this would mean renting (and paying for) a car to get it to her. I would really rather not do this. Her house is full to bursting as it is.

- Donate it and don't tell her. She's got a memory like an elephant, though, and often asks me about stuff she gave me literally decades ago. (and I think it's likely that eventually she'll ask for it back, in which case I'll have to do option 1.....)

- Donate it and tell her. This will result in repeated angry phone calls in which she screams and cries at me for not respecting her things.

- Donate it, tell her I sold it, and give her the money she wants for it. This is sort of what I'm leaning toward, mainly because she's in pretty dire financial straits and I can afford it. But man, it would piss me off to pay her to get rid of this crap. (This would also encourage her to give me yet MORE crap to sell "because you're so good at it!" and I really don't want to do this any more.)

What would you all do? Has anyone dealt with this?

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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #4211 on: January 03, 2017, 11:03:46 AM »
Does anyone else have parents who keep giving you their (mostly worthless) stuff to sell online? I've got a couple rubbermaid bins of Stuff from my mother. She has expressed to me that she does NOT want it donated or given away; she wants money for it. Ugh.

I've hauled this Stuff through the last two moves and we're hoping to move again in spring. I do not want to haul it through yet another move. I have had this stuff listed on Craigslist, ebay, Facebook yard sale groups, etc. for literally years and I've now given up. No one wants to pay money for this. Of course, my mother will not believe this because "they're collectibles! They're worth something!" She cannot sell it herself online as she doesn't have a computer, smartphone, or Internet service, and her HOA doesn't allow yard sales so she can't sell it in person.

I only took this stuff from her in the first place because she has hoarding tendencies and I was happy to see her willing to let stuff leave her house. Now it's in MY house and I can't seem to get anyone to buy it!

The way I see it, my options (other than continue hanging onto it, which will piss off Boyfriend) are:

- Give it all back to her. I no longer have a car, and it's too much to haul onto public transport, so this would mean renting (and paying for) a car to get it to her. I would really rather not do this. Her house is full to bursting as it is.

- Donate it and don't tell her. She's got a memory like an elephant, though, and often asks me about stuff she gave me literally decades ago. (and I think it's likely that eventually she'll ask for it back, in which case I'll have to do option 1.....)

- Donate it and tell her. This will result in repeated angry phone calls in which she screams and cries at me for not respecting her things.

- Donate it, tell her I sold it, and give her the money she wants for it. This is sort of what I'm leaning toward, mainly because she's in pretty dire financial straits and I can afford it. But man, it would piss me off to pay her to get rid of this crap. (This would also encourage her to give me yet MORE crap to sell "because you're so good at it!" and I really don't want to do this any more.)

What would you all do? Has anyone dealt with this?
Tell her that you can't sell the stuff and if she doesn't pick it up by [some reasonable date in the future] that you're going to donate it. Then follow through.

Lying will just encourage her to give you more stuff.

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« Reply #4212 on: January 03, 2017, 11:15:24 AM »
Tell her that you can't sell the stuff and if she doesn't pick it up by [some reasonable date in the future] that you're going to donate it. Then follow through.

Lying will just encourage her to give you more stuff.

Yeah, she won't come to me. I live in the Big Scary City where there is Crime so therefore she will not drive here. I wish she would come pick it up.... but she won't. I do worry that if I lied and said it sold, I'd just be encouraging more Crap to come into my house. (sometimes she mails it to me, as she will not drive to my apartment -- ugh.) You've definitely got a good point there.

If I tell her I am donating it, I'll just have to be prepared for a whole torrent of verbal abuse to be unleashed at me. I guess that's all part of the hoarding behavior... people who hoard care more about their things than about others. :(

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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #4213 on: January 03, 2017, 11:48:51 AM »

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I've hauled this Stuff through the last two moves and we're hoping to move again in spring. I do not want to haul it through yet another move. I have had this stuff listed on Craigslist, ebay, Facebook yard sale groups, etc. for literally years and I've now given up. No one wants to pay money for this. Of course, my mother will not believe this because "they're collectibles! They're worth something!" She cannot sell it herself online as she doesn't have a computer, smartphone, or Internet service, and her HOA doesn't allow yard sales so she can't sell it in person.

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What would you all do? Has anyone dealt with this?

I would send her a letter: cuts down on the opportunity for her to scream at you.  Put in the letter that you have her stuff, that you have been unable to sell it despite your best efforts (and set them all out), that you will not be able to take it with you when you move in the spring.  Tell her that you have for a last time listed it on [Craigslist] but if it doesn't sell, then unless she collects it by [date a month before you move] you will dispose of it by the means available to you at the time.

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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #4214 on: January 03, 2017, 01:43:52 PM »

I kept wearing them around the house. The elastic gave out so much I was using a hair elastic to ratchet them on. Then there was a bleach incident and the holey khaki fabric became white and pink at the ankles.

It was time.

:(

My husband brought me some trousers to 'mend' yesterday. He was like, "there's a hole here, if you could just patch it. But maybe extend the patch up? It's already thin here". I asked about the other leg, I had already patched it, but where the patch ended it was weak and maybe they needed a further strenghtening patch there. And since I was already at it, this part needs reinforcing too.

In the end I was like, "so basically just make you a new pair of trousers, but inside this pair?". Apparently they are his favourites.

:D Fantastic.

I had a favourite pair of jeans when I was about 17. Jeans were tough for me to buy because I don't really have hips (Levis, etc, now have Curve ID which is awesome).

Anyway, I wore this particular pair to death. Eventually they got dangerously thin, so Mum confiscated them and stashed them in the sewing room for a future project. But I knew they were there so I would retrieve them and keep wearing them. Eventually she cut them off at the knees.

:(

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« Reply #4215 on: January 03, 2017, 04:18:06 PM »
It sounds to me like you did the best you could. I'd tell her she can either have it back by X date or you're donating on Y date. If she doesn't take it back, then I would say there's no more responsibility on your shoulders.

I feel your pain. There's hoarding in my family, too.
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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #4216 on: January 03, 2017, 06:25:26 PM »
If any of you need assistance with Calibre, I can help. I've been using it and my kindle (and tablets) consistently for over 5 years. I've yet to find anything it can't do. I have over 6000 books in my library.

Over 6000, wow.  I love reading, I love books, lately I have been able to satisfy the cravings through the library.   But at my highest book-owning moment I don't think I had that many - if the shelves were full, something had to go when something came in.

There are books I can easily ditch (the library has them), fairly easily ditch (probably will never want to read again) and those I want to hold onto that the library doesn't have.  And are not in Gutenberg, so will have to buy if I want to trade paper for electrons.  Too bad there isn't a site where I send in my paper copy and they let me download the ebook equivalent.  Of course a lot of my books are not even available as ebooks.

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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #4217 on: January 03, 2017, 06:31:48 PM »



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Not as physical books. But I switched to eBooks before they even had readers. And they take up no physical space. A good chunk were premustachian too. No clutter for me. 😀
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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #4218 on: January 03, 2017, 07:05:06 PM »
Alright I am doing this decluttering/cleaning thing now! Some parts of my house haven't been properly cleaned in the 20+years we've lived here, but since I retired in the summer, this is my winter project.

So far: I've washed the walls around light switches and corners, where 20 years of fingerprints had built up. I've cleaned the fridge, even taking out the shelves in the door and washed them. Except for the very bottom vegetable bin, I got sidetracked right at that point. (Squirrel!)

I've washed the drapes in 3 rooms, and wiped the cobwebs off the curtain rods and top of the window frames. The cobwebs, omg, I don't know how they snuck up on me like this. In an anti-anticluttering moment I bought a lightweight stick vacuum and I've done my ceilings with it.

One room had turned into a combination shrine to my daughter (who is almost thirty and hasn't lived here in a decade) and general overflow dumping ground. I've cleaned out her closet, filled 4 big garbage bags of pure trash, a medium one of recyclable papers (spelling tests from 5th grade, that sort of thing), and tonight I posted up some old dolls of hers on craigslist.

I also donated several bags of work clothes I don't need any more to a local thrift shop.

I've been listening to the marie kondo audio book and some minimalist podcasts among other things while cleaning, for inspiration. I can't quite get behind thanking my purse when I put it down after shopping or making my clothes stand up in the dresser drawers, but I do like the idea of "curating" my environment and feeling peaceful when I walk into a room.

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« Reply #4219 on: January 03, 2017, 07:53:09 PM »
In December, a woman at work mentioned that she wanted to start decluttering so I gave her a few pointers.

Just caught up with her and she has made huge progress over the break.

She raved about how much bigger her house seems, how much easier it is to tidy, how much her kids are enjoying the space, and how much happier she feels.

I stood there and clapped when she told me. So thrilled for her.

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« Reply #4220 on: January 03, 2017, 08:02:23 PM »
Listed 9 items on ebay today. Gave my friend two of my old books for her to read, then told her she could keep or donate.

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« Reply #4221 on: January 03, 2017, 08:04:22 PM »
Does anyone else have parents who keep giving you their (mostly worthless) stuff to sell online? I've got a couple rubbermaid bins of Stuff from my mother. She has expressed to me that she does NOT want it donated or given away; she wants money for it. Ugh.

I've hauled this Stuff through the last two moves and we're hoping to move again in spring. I do not want to haul it through yet another move. I have had this stuff listed on Craigslist, ebay, Facebook yard sale groups, etc. for literally years and I've now given up. No one wants to pay money for this. Of course, my mother will not believe this because "they're collectibles! They're worth something!" She cannot sell it herself online as she doesn't have a computer, smartphone, or Internet service, and her HOA doesn't allow yard sales so she can't sell it in person.

I only took this stuff from her in the first place because she has hoarding tendencies and I was happy to see her willing to let stuff leave her house. Now it's in MY house and I can't seem to get anyone to buy it!

The way I see it, my options (other than continue hanging onto it, which will piss off Boyfriend) are:

- Give it all back to her. I no longer have a car, and it's too much to haul onto public transport, so this would mean renting (and paying for) a car to get it to her. I would really rather not do this. Her house is full to bursting as it is.

- Donate it and don't tell her. She's got a memory like an elephant, though, and often asks me about stuff she gave me literally decades ago. (and I think it's likely that eventually she'll ask for it back, in which case I'll have to do option 1.....)

- Donate it and tell her. This will result in repeated angry phone calls in which she screams and cries at me for not respecting her things.

- Donate it, tell her I sold it, and give her the money she wants for it. This is sort of what I'm leaning toward, mainly because she's in pretty dire financial straits and I can afford it. But man, it would piss me off to pay her to get rid of this crap. (This would also encourage her to give me yet MORE crap to sell "because you're so good at it!" and I really don't want to do this any more.)

What would you all do? Has anyone dealt with this?
If you can afford it, donate and give her some money for it ( less than $50) since she is in dire financial straits. Also make it clear you can't sell any more for her because it's not worth your time (over three years) to sell them. The way I see it, you are paying to get rid of it from your life. While it's true that asking her to pick up by X and donating by Y will work, it'll not help your mom's hoarding tendencies (she'll come pick it up and store it at her place making you deal with it at a later stage). If you give her very little money, she'll atleast realize that most of what she hoards is crap and may be ready to let them go.

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« Reply #4222 on: January 03, 2017, 08:57:24 PM »
It worked!

As you said, from a pdf I got full Kindle, text size changes, etc.  I never email kindle so I had to find my email address first  ;-)

I wish I had done this while I was still working, it would have been nice to take online journal papers and "kindleize" them so they were easy to read on a laptop or tablet.

I've been sorting books too.  The ones I want to hold on to are old ones that the library doesn't have, but some of them are old enough they are on Gutenberg.ca (I'm in Canada and respecting Canadian copyright limits - Australia has the same limits we do so I may also download from them).  If I can have an e-book version I am OK with donating the paper version.

Question: Has anyone downloaded Gutenberg books and if yes, what e-reader did you download to read them with?  I will be reading on a desktop (Windows 7) and a tablet (Android).

Related question: Also some slightly more recent ones are now on Kindle, but they cost, and I already own the paper version!  A lot are free on Amazon Kindle Prime.  Canadian Kindle Prime users, how easy is it to download lots and lots of free books and then get off Kindle Prime?  It is the only reason I would sign up for it.

On a "gone" note, all my Kathy Reichs and Dana Stabenow mysteries are in the donate pile.  A lot of my Tony Hillerman ones too (the ones the library has).  Progress.


On Gutenberg books: Kindle is my preferred, and sometimes it's an option (.mobi files). Failing that, usually I'll convert a text or PDF file to kindle (email to your kindle device address with the subject line "convert" - instructions on Amazon if you search).  I like that format for readability, for exporting notes usually for students and for the ability to pick up and read where I left off on any kind of device. I have the Kindle app for Idevices, Android, and Windows.
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A few were mobi files and are now on my Kindle.
Most of the books were html or text - I saved to Word.  If I save those Word documents to PDF this should work?  I just email to my Kindle address, subject line convert, and send the files as attachments?


Yes.  Apparently, you can also send other document formats (like Word) and read them in kindle, but sending a PDF with the convert command gives you access to more of the Kindle functions. Here's a link:


https://www.amazon.com/gp/sendtokindle/email


 There's also an app that will convert various ebook files to other formats. I haven't tried it yet, but I think I'm going to. It's called Calibre.


 Fabulous! Yes, I've done it for a lot of things for work.

If any of you need assistance with Calibre, I can help. I've been using it and my kindle (and tablets) consistently for over 5 years. I've yet to find anything it can't do. I have over 6000 books in my library.


Ooh. Yep. I've got a textbook in Bookshelf (iOS) that'd I'd love to convert (to something actually functional; I hate Bookshelf). But I have no clue how to get the file itself; I just get to it in the app (it's a desk copy because I'm teaching with it; the publisher sent it to me through an online service that syncs to the app). But maybe that's not a Calibre question?

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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #4223 on: January 03, 2017, 09:01:02 PM »
It worked!

As you said, from a pdf I got full Kindle, text size changes, etc.  I never email kindle so I had to find my email address first  ;-)

I wish I had done this while I was still working, it would have been nice to take online journal papers and "kindleize" them so they were easy to read on a laptop or tablet.

I've been sorting books too.  The ones I want to hold on to are old ones that the library doesn't have, but some of them are old enough they are on Gutenberg.ca (I'm in Canada and respecting Canadian copyright limits - Australia has the same limits we do so I may also download from them).  If I can have an e-book version I am OK with donating the paper version.

Question: Has anyone downloaded Gutenberg books and if yes, what e-reader did you download to read them with?  I will be reading on a desktop (Windows 7) and a tablet (Android).

Related question: Also some slightly more recent ones are now on Kindle, but they cost, and I already own the paper version!  A lot are free on Amazon Kindle Prime.  Canadian Kindle Prime users, how easy is it to download lots and lots of free books and then get off Kindle Prime?  It is the only reason I would sign up for it.

On a "gone" note, all my Kathy Reichs and Dana Stabenow mysteries are in the donate pile.  A lot of my Tony Hillerman ones too (the ones the library has).  Progress.


On Gutenberg books: Kindle is my preferred, and sometimes it's an option (.mobi files). Failing that, usually I'll convert a text or PDF file to kindle (email to your kindle device address with the subject line "convert" - instructions on Amazon if you search).  I like that format for readability, for exporting notes usually for students and for the ability to pick up and read where I left off on any kind of device. I have the Kindle app for Idevices, Android, and Windows.
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A few were mobi files and are now on my Kindle.
Most of the books were html or text - I saved to Word.  If I save those Word documents to PDF this should work?  I just email to my Kindle address, subject line convert, and send the files as attachments?


Yes.  Apparently, you can also send other document formats (like Word) and read them in kindle, but sending a PDF with the convert command gives you access to more of the Kindle functions. Here's a link:


https://www.amazon.com/gp/sendtokindle/email


 There's also an app that will convert various ebook files to other formats. I haven't tried it yet, but I think I'm going to. It's called Calibre.


 Fabulous! Yes, I've done it for a lot of things for work.

If any of you need assistance with Calibre, I can help. I've been using it and my kindle (and tablets) consistently for over 5 years. I've yet to find anything it can't do. I have over 6000 books in my library.


Ooh. Yep. I've got a textbook in Bookshelf (iOS) that'd I'd love to convert (to something actually functional; I hate Bookshelf). But I have no clue how to get the file itself; I just get to it in the app (it's a desk copy because I'm teaching with it; the publisher sent it to me through an online service that syncs to the app). But maybe that's not a Calibre question?
Not directly, but it might be. This is iBooks Bookshelf right? I'll check back in the AM.
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« Reply #4224 on: January 03, 2017, 09:07:07 PM »
It worked!

As you said, from a pdf I got full Kindle, text size changes, etc.  I never email kindle so I had to find my email address first  ;-)

I wish I had done this while I was still working, it would have been nice to take online journal papers and "kindleize" them so they were easy to read on a laptop or tablet.

I've been sorting books too.  The ones I want to hold on to are old ones that the library doesn't have, but some of them are old enough they are on Gutenberg.ca (I'm in Canada and respecting Canadian copyright limits - Australia has the same limits we do so I may also download from them).  If I can have an e-book version I am OK with donating the paper version.

Question: Has anyone downloaded Gutenberg books and if yes, what e-reader did you download to read them with?  I will be reading on a desktop (Windows 7) and a tablet (Android).

Related question: Also some slightly more recent ones are now on Kindle, but they cost, and I already own the paper version!  A lot are free on Amazon Kindle Prime.  Canadian Kindle Prime users, how easy is it to download lots and lots of free books and then get off Kindle Prime?  It is the only reason I would sign up for it.

On a "gone" note, all my Kathy Reichs and Dana Stabenow mysteries are in the donate pile.  A lot of my Tony Hillerman ones too (the ones the library has).  Progress.


On Gutenberg books: Kindle is my preferred, and sometimes it's an option (.mobi files). Failing that, usually I'll convert a text or PDF file to kindle (email to your kindle device address with the subject line "convert" - instructions on Amazon if you search).  I like that format for readability, for exporting notes usually for students and for the ability to pick up and read where I left off on any kind of device. I have the Kindle app for Idevices, Android, and Windows.
Thanks Rural
A few were mobi files and are now on my Kindle.
Most of the books were html or text - I saved to Word.  If I save those Word documents to PDF this should work?  I just email to my Kindle address, subject line convert, and send the files as attachments?


Yes.  Apparently, you can also send other document formats (like Word) and read them in kindle, but sending a PDF with the convert command gives you access to more of the Kindle functions. Here's a link:


https://www.amazon.com/gp/sendtokindle/email


 There's also an app that will convert various ebook files to other formats. I haven't tried it yet, but I think I'm going to. It's called Calibre.


 Fabulous! Yes, I've done it for a lot of things for work.

If any of you need assistance with Calibre, I can help. I've been using it and my kindle (and tablets) consistently for over 5 years. I've yet to find anything it can't do. I have over 6000 books in my library.


Ooh. Yep. I've got a textbook in Bookshelf (iOS) that'd I'd love to convert (to something actually functional; I hate Bookshelf). But I have no clue how to get the file itself; I just get to it in the app (it's a desk copy because I'm teaching with it; the publisher sent it to me through an online service that syncs to the app). But maybe that's not a Calibre question?
Not directly, but it might be. This is iBooks Bookshelf right? I'll check back in the AM.


Yes, iBooks. Thanks!

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« Reply #4225 on: January 03, 2017, 09:50:13 PM »
Does anyone else have parents who keep giving you their (mostly worthless) stuff to sell online? I've got a couple rubbermaid bins of Stuff from my mother. She has expressed to me that she does NOT want it donated or given away; she wants money for it. Ugh.

I've hauled this Stuff through the last two moves and we're hoping to move again in spring. I do not want to haul it through yet another move. I have had this stuff listed on Craigslist, ebay, Facebook yard sale groups, etc. for literally years and I've now given up. No one wants to pay money for this. Of course, my mother will not believe this because "they're collectibles! They're worth something!" She cannot sell it herself online as she doesn't have a computer, smartphone, or Internet service, and her HOA doesn't allow yard sales so she can't sell it in person.

I only took this stuff from her in the first place because she has hoarding tendencies and I was happy to see her willing to let stuff leave her house. Now it's in MY house and I can't seem to get anyone to buy it!

The way I see it, my options (other than continue hanging onto it, which will piss off Boyfriend) are:

- Give it all back to her. I no longer have a car, and it's too much to haul onto public transport, so this would mean renting (and paying for) a car to get it to her. I would really rather not do this. Her house is full to bursting as it is.

- Donate it and don't tell her. She's got a memory like an elephant, though, and often asks me about stuff she gave me literally decades ago. (and I think it's likely that eventually she'll ask for it back, in which case I'll have to do option 1.....)

- Donate it and tell her. This will result in repeated angry phone calls in which she screams and cries at me for not respecting her things.

- Donate it, tell her I sold it, and give her the money she wants for it. This is sort of what I'm leaning toward, mainly because she's in pretty dire financial straits and I can afford it. But man, it would piss me off to pay her to get rid of this crap. (This would also encourage her to give me yet MORE crap to sell "because you're so good at it!" and I really don't want to do this any more.)

What would you all do? Has anyone dealt with this?

I've learnt to keep my mouth shut about selling on eBay, after having multiple people try this on with me.

A friend of mine announced that she wanted to declutter and said she would give me all her books, DVDs, etc to sell online. She was planning to let me keep the money, but it came across almost like charity the way she tried to sell me on the idea. Also, she's a SAHM and I work full-time. Sell your own stuff! (She couldn't be bothered in the end, donated the lot.)

MiL tried this repeatedly. Eventually I agreed, listed 20-30 articles of outdated women's clothes at 99 cents each. She texted me every day to ask if anything had sold. When nothing sold, I donated the lot. I later taught her how to sell on eBay, and she listed things at such ridiculous prices that nothing sold then either. "These are good shoes, I paid $300 for them!" "... they're 15 years old. You don't want them because they're dated and they're your shoes. Why would anyone else want them?"

I would probably give in and dump the lot, give her a small amount of money, and do everything in your power to stop the influx of crap from her again. Baffle her with bullshit if you have to, tell her eBay put up their fees and it's not worth your time, or tell her eBay and Paypal had a security breach (true) and you're not comfortable selling online anymore.

While she can't have a personal garage sale, she could look into community garage sales or car boot sales and sell things that way.

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« Reply #4226 on: January 04, 2017, 07:11:41 AM »



Is that many books even mustachian?

Not as physical books. But I switched to eBooks before they even had readers. And they take up no physical space. A good chunk were premustachian too. No clutter for me. 😀

I was thinking more of the cost, I would happily have unlimited books (but that is why I need a big library wherever I move to).  $$ is what is stopping me from replacing perfectly good paper books with ebooks.  Plus so many are not even available as ebooks (the older ones, that are not old enough for Gutenberg).
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« Reply #4227 on: January 04, 2017, 11:43:10 AM »
DW and I decided that it was time to turn our attention to the interior of the house. It needed cleaning and decluttering foremost. Needed some paint and minor remodeling.

We're both sentimental fools and have boxes of old books and papers. We now have a single box of those things. Next up is a thinning of other books, music and movies. Had no idea how much we had until we unboxed some things. Things were haven't enjoyed in years. What is the point in having it?

We've made stabs at making real progress before and accomplished a little each time.

This holiday we got serious.

And it was easier each time something left the house - as either donations, recycle materials or plain garbage.

Along the way we painted one room and have plans to paint a few more in the next week or so. New carpet too. Night and day difference.

Our house wasn't dirty but it wasn't clean either. So much dust around things that had not been moved in such a long time. Someone here talked about creating a home that is easy to clean so that is what we're focusing on. Everything needs to have a home or it needs to go.

Still have a ways to go but we are getting there. On a another note the Goodwill store people know us by sight now. I considered a garage sale or eBay but I've been down that route before. Takes a long time, lots of packing and boxing - assuming I have materials to do this with in the first place. Our time is worth more than the stuff we donated. Most of it would have been $5 items at best.

We noticed how many gifts we've received as a family that were never really used much. We've tried to make our relatives remember we have a small house but with mixed results. Whatever comes into the house needs to be easy to store when not in use. The holidays are wonderful but we don't need anything. Time together and good eats and laughter are more important to us.

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« Reply #4228 on: January 04, 2017, 02:24:30 PM »
The decluttering endeavor has driven home the irreconcilable differences between my husband and me.

Last night. Me: Do I really have to get rid of my Annie Dillard and Dorris Lessing books? I haven't read them since college, but they were so good ... (Pulitzer Prize and Nobel Prize winners, respectively)

My husband - face lighting up, pointing to one of his books: THIS is the BEST BOOK EVER!

I squint at the title: "Linear Algebra and its Applications."

We seem happy enough together, but this makes me think we aren't compatible at all.

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« Reply #4229 on: January 04, 2017, 03:45:21 PM »
The decluttering endeavor has driven home the irreconcilable differences between my husband and me.

Last night. Me: Do I really have to get rid of my Annie Dillard and Dorris Lessing books? I haven't read them since college, but they were so good ... (Pulitzer Prize and Nobel Prize winners, respectively)

My husband - face lighting up, pointing to one of his books: THIS is the BEST BOOK EVER!

I squint at the title: "Linear Algebra and its Applications."

We seem happy enough together, but this makes me think we aren't compatible at all.

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« Reply #4230 on: January 04, 2017, 06:30:31 PM »
I'm reasonably good at not bring excess into my house...I THOUGHT...but I'm doing the Apartment Therapy cure this January and re-discovered that I have five whisks/egg beaters (one stolen from my mom, four gifted from my mom...ya think she wants the one I stole back?) and three containers of curry powder.

On the upside, today's task (cleaning out the pantry) has me feeling really good about the space. Which still has three things of curry because I will eventually use them, but has less of the stuff I never will.

...anyone have any good recipes for curry powder?

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« Reply #4231 on: January 04, 2017, 06:47:13 PM »
I'm reasonably good at not bring excess into my house...I THOUGHT...but I'm doing the Apartment Therapy cure this January and re-discovered that I have five whisks/egg beaters (one stolen from my mom, four gifted from my mom...ya think she wants the one I stole back?) and three containers of curry powder.

On the upside, today's task (cleaning out the pantry) has me feeling really good about the space. Which still has three things of curry because I will eventually use them, but has less of the stuff I never will.

...anyone have any good recipes for curry powder?


Curry powder improves almost everything that isn't ice cream. Next time you're too sick to do more than heat up a can of chicken soup, add some curry powder to it and feel even more better. Unless you're vegetarian, that is, in which case do it with vegetable soup.


Seriously, I go through tons of curry, powders and pastes both, because they're useful in so very many things.

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« Reply #4232 on: January 04, 2017, 06:48:50 PM »
I'm reasonably good at not bring excess into my house...I THOUGHT...but I'm doing the Apartment Therapy cure this January and re-discovered that I have five whisks/egg beaters (one stolen from my mom, four gifted from my mom...ya think she wants the one I stole back?) and three containers of curry powder.

On the upside, today's task (cleaning out the pantry) has me feeling really good about the space. Which still has three things of curry because I will eventually use them, but has less of the stuff I never will.

...anyone have any good recipes for curry powder?

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« Reply #4233 on: January 04, 2017, 07:13:54 PM »

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« Reply #4234 on: January 04, 2017, 07:20:35 PM »
I love adding curry powder to chicken salad. Also, you can use it for roasted crunchy chick peas, or seasoning for pumpkin seeds.

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« Reply #4235 on: January 04, 2017, 08:01:10 PM »
I make chicken curry with leftover chicken - saute onions, garlic, peppers, any other veg, diced apples, add diced chicken, add chicken broth, add curry.  Serve over rice.  Also good with left-over turkey.  I also saw a turkey curry once that added diced canned peaches (syrup well rinsed off) - sounds odd but was very nice.
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« Reply #4236 on: January 04, 2017, 08:02:23 PM »

Curried Lentils and chickpeas!
https://www.budgetbytes.com/2016/07/slow-cooker-coconut-curry-lentils/
https://www.budgetbytes.com/2015/01/curried-lentils/
https://www.budgetbytes.com/2011/02/quick-curried-chick-peas/
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Oooh, thank you Bracken_Joy! (How did you know I also had an open packet of lentils in there??)

I feel like EVERYONE has a partial pack of lentils creeping around the pantry, haha.

I love adding curry powder to chicken salad. Also, you can use it for roasted crunchy chick peas, or seasoning for pumpkin seeds.

Oooh, I love the chicken salad plan! I also want to try it now on top of deviled eggs. Mmmm.

I make chicken curry with leftover chicken - saute onions, garlic, peppers, any other veg, diced apples, add diced chicken, add chicken broth, add curry.  Serve over rice.  Also good with left-over turkey.  I also saw a turkey curry once that added diced canned peaches (syrup well rinsed off) - sounds odd but was very nice.

That turkey recipe is gonna come in handy. Thawing a 16lb turkey... for just DH and I =o
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« Reply #4237 on: January 04, 2017, 08:02:57 PM »
I am also doing the January Cure. Pantry day was both satisfying and horrifying. The horror came when I found a package of weevil-y flour and a jar of very elderly instant coffee that had molded. It was gaggingly nasty.

The satisfaction was consolidating things and tossing and planning some meals to use up items I have a lot of. I have three packages of couscous, a food I rarely eat...but buy often apparently.
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« Reply #4238 on: January 04, 2017, 08:19:03 PM »
I love adding curry powder to chicken salad. Also, you can use it for roasted crunchy chick peas, or seasoning for pumpkin seeds.

Also good in potato salad.

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« Reply #4239 on: January 04, 2017, 08:58:49 PM »
Thank you for the reminder about curry chicken salad.  It was a favorite lunch for awhile and then I just quit making it.

Today I sold my ski jacket and ski pants via Craigslist.  Super happy because I really tried to learn to ski a few years ago and gave up, so seeing those items was a reminder of my husband feeling guilty about trying to get me into the sport and my complete inability to enjoy hurtling down a mountainside.

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« Reply #4240 on: January 04, 2017, 10:33:16 PM »
I love adding curry powder to chicken salad. Also, you can use it for roasted crunchy chick peas, or seasoning for pumpkin seeds.

Also good in potato salad.

And egg salad sandwiches!

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« Reply #4241 on: January 05, 2017, 03:14:58 AM »
I agree, I'm afraid. Tell her that you have made your best efforts to sell it, but cannot, so if she doesn't collect it by x date, you will get rid of it.

If it leads to a torrent of verbal abuse, honestly, you need to stand up for yourself.

"Mom, I tried to help you out by selling it. I am sorry it is not worth anything. Please don't shoot the messenger". I would just repeat that over and over every time she mentions it, but I am kind of a bitch. If you are more embroiled in her (what honestly sounds like narcissistic) behaviour you may find that hard / impossible. But I think it's good to start establishing these kind of boundaries (ie you can't ask me to do you an impossible favour, and then berate me for not doing it) because, IMO, people like this tend to get worse as they get older.

I agree that giving her cash and lying, whilst very appealing, will lead you further down this path which you do not want to go on. I know it's great that she's letting things go, and it's good to encourage that, but, honestly (this is going to be direct, sorry if it's harsh) if you are trying to encourage her to let stuff go so that one day it's easier to deal with her estate, it's not working, because, when that sad day comes, you can donate it all without anyone's agreement. Doing it now means you are having to negotiate with her.

Sorry she's being like this.

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« Reply #4242 on: January 05, 2017, 06:50:28 AM »
Today's goals:

1. Organize the pantry (I've been dreading this).
2. Get rid of/find a place for 50% of the clutter on my desk.
3. Sell a box or two of books and CDs.
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« Reply #4243 on: January 05, 2017, 08:27:17 AM »
OKAY!

-Holiday guests are gone, after 2 weeks
-Christmas decor is all packed and away (except the tree and the outdoor lights- icy out so we can't deal with those yet)
-Husband is gone at work alllllll day

Time to get my declutter on! So much crap came in over the holidays, it was insane. Two whole families where gifts are their love language, and both sets of parents are moving. I'll have plenty to keep me busy.

Today I'll try to tackle:
-Pantry
-Fridge
-Make sure nothing was snuck into kitchen cupboards
-Bathroom cupboards
-Dining room built-ins, which ended up as a weird catch all

Later days:
-OFFICE. There's a giant mattress that got left in there. No friggin clue what to do with it. Plan had been to sub it with the guest mattress, but it's a weird size (Cali Queen) and frankly not comfortable. Came from Brother who lives 100+ miles away from his storage unit. At our request, but I thought it was a queen and not AWFUL. Anyway, need to start there, THEN do DH's desk and closet and un-filed filing. And another pass through our books is probably a good idea.
-DH's clothes again
-My clothes again, although I did this pretty recently

Once it's a bit warmer:
-Tree and outdoor lights, stash final xmas bin
-Organize garage shelves and camping gear

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« Reply #4244 on: January 05, 2017, 08:38:41 AM »
Ok, this was a big labor declutter for one item.  My son's home from college for the break and wanted the old recliner chair that's made it's way out of every room in our house (nobody wanted it so it would move to whatever room didn't have someone currently in it to defend the territory).  He asked me if he could trash it and I said yes.  Put it in the basement and I'll dismantle it for recycling as much as possible.  Well, we heat our house partly with a wood furnace so as I pulled the thing apart, the hardwood frame was thrown piece by piece into the furnace.  Free heat, yay!  The screws, bolts, nuts all went into the metal recycle bin and the steel recliner mechanism and springs went in with them.  There is fabric, foam and padding that's going to be trashed but a good 80% of the weight is now converted to heat or being recycled.  Less clutter!

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« Reply #4245 on: January 05, 2017, 08:45:43 AM »

"These are good shoes, I paid $300 for them!" "... they're 15 years old. You don't want them because they're dated and they're your shoes. Why would anyone else want them?"

Right? Why do they not understand this simple concept?

While she can't have a personal garage sale, she could look into community garage sales or car boot sales and sell things that way.

Yeah, no, she thinks this should be MY job because I am not elderly so therefore have allllll this time and energy to do for her. Never mind the fact that I work fulltime and she does not work (and that I live in a high crime neighborhood where I would not dare to have a yard sale myself; I'd be robbed of my cash within 5 minutes of setup.)

If you are more embroiled in her (what honestly sounds like narcissistic) behaviour you may find that hard / impossible. But I think it's good to start establishing these kind of boundaries (ie you can't ask me to do you an impossible favour, and then berate me for not doing it) because, IMO, people like this tend to get worse as they get older.

I agree that giving her cash and lying, whilst very appealing, will lead you further down this path which you do not want to go on. I know it's great that she's letting things go, and it's good to encourage that, but, honestly (this is going to be direct, sorry if it's harsh) if you are trying to encourage her to let stuff go so that one day it's easier to deal with her estate, it's not working, because, when that sad day comes, you can donate it all without anyone's agreement. Doing it now means you are having to negotiate with her.


You're not wrong, she is definitely a narcissist and gets very angry when I refuse to do something that she wants me to do. The fact that I'm even considering tossing this stuff out is progress for me.

When she goes, I am going to call up Got Junk and dump the entire lot without looking back. I read somewhere that the whole "this is worth something, I should sell it (you should sell it for me)" mentality is part of the hoarding mentality. Seeing worth and value in stuff that is, frankly, clutter and crap. At the time I thought it was a sign that she's getting better but I'm realizing that wasn't the case. :(

Meanwhile, this just makes me want to double down on getting rid of my own crap! I have been excavating this damn filing cabinet since before New Year's and I feel like I have got to start hitting bottom at some point. Found an old diary in there from my early 20s, WTF. Shredded the entire damned thing; wow, was that an embarrassing read.

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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #4246 on: January 05, 2017, 08:47:49 AM »
My wife has had this tradition (or rather spleen I should say) of decluttering on Jan 1st. I've always hated it not because I hate decluttering, infact I love it, but because on Jan 1st I have more important things on my mind than decluttering. Such as hydration after last night's binge, trying to get rid of that nasty feeling in my throat after last night's binge, and fighting the massive headache that never seems to respond to Aspirin, Advil, Iboprofen, etc.

This year has been the second year in a row that we didn't declutter though. Last year we had just moved out of our old apartment shortly before christmas and moved into a spare bedroom at my parents' house so there was nothing to declutter (although truth be told my parents' place is a giant mess but that's a different issue). This year we didn't have anything to declutter yet because after travelling around the world in 2016 living out of two backpacks we have only just arrived in the US and have only just moved into our new apartment a bit less than two months ago. And since we've been very conscious and careful in what we're buying I don't think there will be any need to declutter next year or the year after that, either.

Maybe I can finally start sobering up on new year's the way it was meant to be: dirty, smelly, nasty, but with no regrets whatsoever.

I kinda miss that satisfactory rush of throwing stuff out, donating it, selling it, etc.
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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #4247 on: January 05, 2017, 08:52:40 AM »
Ha! I came across a box of journals from the 90s. I was going to shred them all unread, but my brother convinced me to read them first. There's some cool stuff, for sure, but mostly embarrassing judgmentalism. They'll be shredded when I'm done reading. I may take a few pictures of pages, but for someone who was so afraid of forgetting details at the time, I'm surprised by how much I just want to let that past go.
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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #4248 on: January 05, 2017, 03:25:06 PM »
I could have written that last sentence of yours, Mezzie. Every time I've looked back through old journals I cringe! Guess I need to deal with those at some point...reading through one last time and then shredding sounds like it could be cathartic.

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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #4249 on: January 05, 2017, 04:35:24 PM »
Arrrgh, old journals! So embarrassing. I have some travel journals from a 4 month solo trip when I was 18 and I need to read them before I chuck them. They are really the best record of the trip but I have a feeling the records of what boys I kissed and the attempts at being funny may be too cringeworthy.

I just removed about 3 inches of paper from files of bills and statements. My poor 5-page-at-a-time shredder will not cope (gets too hot and shuts down) so it will have to be done gradually over days...! I might be able to consolidate what was in 2 x lever arch file and a paper folder into one lever arch. My overall aim is to convert three shelves of paperwork into one.