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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #750 on: October 20, 2014, 02:50:35 PM »
What do you guys do with papers that need to be shredded?  We don't have enough to justify purchasing a shredder but it gets big enough to be annoying waiting for the bi-annual free days from the library.  Burn it as starter paper?  Oh! yet another reason to cross off "get/make worm composter" off my to-do list.  :-)

Yea we use it as starter paper in the outdoor fire pit. You can also tear off just the confidential part of the document, and recycle the rest of the piece of paper. That way you're dealing with less overall paper to shred and dispose of.

When I had a worm composter I would shred it and give some to them using a small handheld shredder.

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« Reply #751 on: October 20, 2014, 03:02:11 PM »
Posting a few things on Craigslist in anticipation of moving in December (and getting married!).

FEELS SO GOOD.

WHY HAVEN'T I DONT THIS BEFORE!

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« Reply #752 on: October 21, 2014, 03:28:10 AM »
What do you guys do with papers that need to be shredded?  We don't have enough to justify purchasing a shredder but it gets big enough to be annoying waiting for the bi-annual free days from the library.  Burn it as starter paper?  Oh! yet another reason to cross off "get/make worm composter" off my to-do list.  :-)

In January, we gave in and bought a small one for $20 at OfficeWorks. Paper is my nemesis so it helps with that and is far faster than tearing by hand to put in the recycling bin. I use the shredded paper as mulch sometimes and other times chuck it in the compost bin.

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« Reply #753 on: October 21, 2014, 09:24:20 AM »
Giving my box of 72 votives left from my wedding to a non-profit I volunteer with for decor their gala.  Technically it's not in my house, as it was put in my MIL's house, but it is my clutter.

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« Reply #754 on: October 21, 2014, 12:45:45 PM »
I trashed bathroom cabinet old / never used stuff, pulled a purse (and will pull a second if I ever find it) to donate, and have been eyeing my book collection very hard.  I'm not counting the trashed things as part of my Amazon box, though; that's all gonna be give-away items.  If I did I'd probably have filled it.  I also added to my paper bag of clothes to donate, things I saw after coming back from vacation and just thought You know what, this is adorable but I haven't worn it for over a year.

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« Reply #755 on: October 21, 2014, 08:29:28 PM »

I've also cleaned out our linen closet this weekend. Undecided what to do with the excess hand towels and sheet sets we seem to have. What's a reasonable number to keep?
My opinion about this is 2 sets per bed that you use daily, and one set per bed that is used only occasionally.  Then I keep a good sized stack of pillow cases.

This seems like a good rule of thumb to me.  We upgraded to a King bed a couple years ago and now have all these Queen sheets and really only need one set for the guest bedroom.  However, that's a lot of perfectly good fabric, so I'm trying to think of some good uses for it, rather than just carting them all to the thrift store.    We actually have four sets for the king bed now; 1 set that kind of sucks and we don't use, 1 good set, 1 OK set, and now some flannel sheets for winter.  Should just get rid of that sucky set.  I tried repairing the fitted sheet once but the corners keep tearing out.

I just got done listing a couple more things on Ebay and got better photos of an item that wasn't selling.  Also used up some scrap wood and leftover foam and batting to make a nice padded seat for my tack trunk.  It's nice to see clutter being absorbed into something useful.
If you or someone you know sews, old sheets can make great fabric for basic costumes, under-dresses, lining for fancy clothes, etc.  I make medieval costumes, and save old sheets for under-dresses.  They are great because they are so wide without seams.  Depends on the fabric though, if it has torn it may be too thin/worn even in the 'good' places to still be usable.

I do sew, but nothing like that.  I'd probably just use them as frost covers for the garden, or maybe make lightweight sheets for the horses.  They aren't worn out at all, just shitty quality with almost zero fabric allowance for the seams, so any stress and the seams tear right out.

Haven't had time to do much lately, but did get a bridle sold that was too small for my horses.  I should be able to really get after it once the weather turns less amazing and I'm stuck indoors more.

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« Reply #756 on: October 21, 2014, 10:29:47 PM »
Time to get serious, looks like we are moving back down south! Going to be spending the next couple of weeks REALLY ruthlessly looking at everything we own. Posted a dozen items on  our local buy and sell and have created a list of big stuff we are not taking with us:) now those darn papers...

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« Reply #757 on: October 21, 2014, 11:42:01 PM »
Going to move to a different country by the end of 2015 - time to start clearing things out as well! Good thing I've moved twice in the past 4 years, so I've mostly gotten rid of the big/heavy things (extra furniture, appliances, most books, etc). But I do need to start cutting down on the small things like clothes! Aim is to fit everything into 2 large suitcases in a year's time.

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« Reply #758 on: October 22, 2014, 02:21:40 AM »
well, went back through my books and am gifting away another 4 boxes (this is after I had already gone through them, ruthlessly, I thought) When actually staring the prospect of moving in the face (again) I really don't want to pack them yet again...off to do more, good luck everyone!

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« Reply #759 on: October 22, 2014, 07:01:46 AM »
I spent an hour scanning a box of papers into Evernote. Also my wife replaced ALL of our old mismatched dishes FOR FREE from a full set someone gave my mom to sell at a garage sale. We actually didn't even take the whole set!

My kids haven't gotten on board with minimizing yet, but every day my wife tells them "You guys can't keep up with your stuff because you have too much stuff!"

I just smile. Their time is coming.
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« Reply #760 on: October 22, 2014, 11:41:59 AM »

That is terrific! What do you do about kitchen stuff? I try and try to cut down, but there's still so much. Bulky appliances (that we do use regularly), nice pots and pans that we've bought over the years, etc. We aren't collectors--we have one set of dishes and silverware, not like my mom who has a set for every holiday--but it is still so much!


Thankfully, I've never had much kitchen stuff (always preferred a simple and uncluttered kitchen). After moving so many times, I've cut it down to only things that I use somewhat regularly. I don't plan on bringing any of my kitchen stuff with me when I move, the plan is to sell/give away/donate everything (except my favorite mug that I've had for the past 8 years).

I think it helps that I live alone, so I haven't had the opportunity to generate clutter with family/kids!

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« Reply #761 on: October 22, 2014, 04:28:53 PM »
I have a lot of kitchen appliances too. I use them all, so I won't get rid of them, but I have been thinking of getting rid of the extra attachments. I really only use a few blade styles on my food processor so I could get rid of the extras.

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« Reply #762 on: October 22, 2014, 06:12:49 PM »
I finally started listing some clothes on ebay. I haven't made a ton of money on them, but I felt like they were worth more than what I would get for them if I sent them to a consignment store. I sold 3 suits, a lot of maternity clothes, and some nice dresses. I just wanted someone else to love them as much as I did (when they fit!)

Then I cleaned out more and sent in two big bags to online consignment stores, and got $55 for them. Easiest $55 I've ever made! Took me all of 1 hour, including the time it took to drop it off at the post office.

I still have a box of clothes that I listed on ebay. No bites yet, but I'll lower my price if I have to re-list them.

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« Reply #763 on: October 24, 2014, 02:25:17 PM »
Fully cleaned out the filing cabinet!

Well, I cheated a little.  My husband has a crate in the closet he uses for filing his teaching stuff, so I just stuck his papers in there (all of which were school related).  I sorted through the rest of our papers, trashed a LOT, put a very few into Evernote, and put the remaining in my desk.  Remaining folders are: previous year tax returns, current tax year, house sale documents, pet health records, very important receipts, career stuff (letters of rec, transcripts), and legal docs.  Wish I could Evernote or trash more but they all seem like things I should probably keep actual physical copies of.  The good news is everything feels much more accessible now, I hated digging through that filing cabinet. 

Followup question:  Do people actually use like security deposit boxes?  Should I be keeping things like the deed to the house there?  Because....I am not.  A fire just seems so unlikely, and aren't there probably backups of everything with the relevant companies and government entities?

Next up is to address the overflowing Goodwill donation pile.  I was sort of planning to wait until the next tax year because of my not-so-great documentation, but it seems like I am doing what I need to do to claim over $500 (basically just write down everything) -- from now on I'll start taking some pictures too. Hopefully that'll be enough, because I am getting super tired of everything still being in the house. 

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« Reply #764 on: October 24, 2014, 03:29:53 PM »


Followup question:  Do people actually use like security deposit boxes?  Should I be keeping things like the deed to the house there?  Because....I am not.  A fire just seems so unlikely, and aren't there probably backups of everything with the relevant companies and government entities?
 

We had a safety deposit box 20 years ago, but we no longer have one. We keep our Wills in a plastic bag in the middle of the deepfreeze that is in the garage.

And yes, our lawyer has a backup copy of our wills, so if it really came down to that, there would be a copy in existence.


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« Reply #765 on: October 24, 2014, 04:10:41 PM »
If you're concerned about a fire, you can get fire-safe boxes that are pretty small.  They're like gun safes only tiny and for small things, like paper documents / deeds / passports / etc.  If you're worried about thievery, though, unless you drill the box into the floor, people can just pick it up and break into it at their leisure.

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« Reply #766 on: October 24, 2014, 05:19:34 PM »
I bagged up an extra scarf, extra earmuffs that someone gave me last year which still has the tag on it, packs of hand warmers left over from camping awhile ago that we never got around to using and will expire soon, extra quilts and blankets that I haven't touched in a couple of years.

Someone can use these items in winter and I've been squatting on them all this time; that seems almost morally wrong.

Thanks to you all and your inspiration I'm running out of stuff worth giving away. Everything else is either too worn or dinged up or I'm actually using it.

It feels weird to be this devoid of stuff. But it's a good weird.

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« Reply #767 on: October 24, 2014, 06:53:42 PM »
My housemate is moving out tomorrow (and I'll be leaving within a month) so we're going through everything in the house. We're not big on possessions and we always joked that we were minimalists but quite a bit of stuff has accumulated! So far we've filled two trash bags and had a bunch of recycling too, plus the enormous entertainment unit we both hate is getting taken away!

Once he leaves I'm going to start cleaning the house and I may never stop :P

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« Reply #768 on: October 24, 2014, 07:57:22 PM »
You guys have inspired me to go through my digital clutter!

Today I went through about 600 pictures and deleted the ones that were blurry. I hope to go through all of my pictures on the computer and sort them into different albums by the end of November. I have the terrible habit of taking a million pictures, uploading them, and then telling myself I'll go through them later. I can't even remember one time where I actually picked through the pictures before throwing them into the abyss of a single photo album.

This will be fun...

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« Reply #769 on: October 24, 2014, 09:39:59 PM »
Got rid of a huge desk from the basement. We never used it, it was strictly taking up space. Sayonara!
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« Reply #770 on: October 25, 2014, 02:04:44 AM »
Got rid of a large shelving unit today! I offered it to my parents, and they said they had the perfect space for it. Booyah.

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« Reply #771 on: October 25, 2014, 05:14:25 AM »
We spent some time decluttering our driveway and got rid of a car this week! Neither of us use our personal cars to commute to work, so a 2nd car was really unnecessary (and was costing way to much in repairs and maintenance to justify the very little it was driven.) So glad to finally have that rust bucket gone and donated!

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« Reply #772 on: October 30, 2014, 08:03:12 PM »
Been slow-going getting rid of stuff on Ebay, but with rock bottom prices, I'm finally getting rid of stuff. The stuff no one buys, I yerdle for credits. If it fails to get picked up through Yerdle, Goodwill gets it.

The hardest part has been old craft projects. For instance, a dress I made that is so heavy the collar stretches out when I wear it. aghhh -,-

On the plus side, I unearthed some old burned CDs/DVDs that I am gonna use to make a sweet recycled art project. :D
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« Reply #773 on: October 31, 2014, 06:50:01 AM »
You guys have inspired me to go through my digital clutter!

Today I went through about 600 pictures and deleted the ones that were blurry. I hope to go through all of my pictures on the computer and sort them into different albums by the end of November. I have the terrible habit of taking a million pictures, uploading them, and then telling myself I'll go through them later. I can't even remember one time where I actually picked through the pictures before throwing them into the abyss of a single photo album.

This will be fun...

Good job! I haven't tackled that job yet... got about 10 years of photos to go through.

On a good note, my wife and the kids cleared off the whole pack patio area of junk last weekend. Threw away piles of scrap wood, wire, junk, busted garden hoses, threadbare rugs, the whole thing. It's awesome.
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« Reply #774 on: October 31, 2014, 09:39:24 AM »
I'm going slowly, but 3 more skirts are gone from my closet.  One was a hand me down I never liked, the other two sadly no longer fit.  Going to see if my sister wants one of those two.

I also am going to do a decluttering/cleaning "game" with a friend.  We have done two different decluttering challenges before to keep us motivated.  For this one, we'll each write down a bunch of decluttering locations or cleaning chores (e.g. kitchen utensils, purse etc.), then we'll mix them up and draw a set number to do each week.  There'll be some element of surprise, and it may help on not putting off certain "dreaded" areas.  (It may be silly, but I find tricking myself into thinking the project is new, different, interesting, or a game is helpful.)

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« Reply #775 on: October 31, 2014, 07:19:05 PM »
Wow, you are all so inspiring.  I looked at an article on Peter Walsh who helps hoarders on tv.  He thinks excess clutter can be related to excess weight.  Do any of you concur?

My sister is still removing her stuff from my parents' house and once it is gone I am sure everyone will feel it.

I had a houseguest come last week and freak at my house: she said :"What happened to your house?  Where did all the stuff go?  Help me with my house!"  It was so satisfying to have someone really notice the changes I have made.

Due to various events I will be spending a fair amount of time at home recuperating and so I am going to deal with my computer clutter this week.  I have just dealt with Facebook clutter and removed half of my 'friends' and most groups.  One issue I have is finding things on my computer (macbook air).  I don't mean things I am looking for but things I want to delete and occasionally see on a list on the computer.  A lot of it is downloads.
 I am wanting to delete any excess but cannot locate it.  Or I suddenly find a whole bunch and spend time deleting only to find it is still on there.  Perhaps i need external help?



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« Reply #776 on: October 31, 2014, 07:20:15 PM »
How many hangers do women aim to have in their closets?   I am thinking of future downsizing and wondering how much is reasonable to keep?

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« Reply #777 on: October 31, 2014, 09:10:12 PM »
wintersun,  I've heard Peter Walsh connect excess weight with clutter. From what I recall, he says if you can't find your running shoes, you're less likely to run. If you organize your snacks so that they are not at eye level, you are less likely to snack. It's things like that.

I'd also say that if you're busy, you're more likely to eat just anything, and more likely to take the most commonly-used mode of transportation-a car.

 If you're already self-conscious about yourself, you're less likely to do something odd in your neighborhood, like ride a bike to work.

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« Reply #778 on: October 31, 2014, 11:38:30 PM »
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I am wanting to delete any excess but cannot locate it.  Or I suddenly find a whole bunch and spend time deleting only to find it is still on there.  Perhaps i need external help?

Perhaps you need to empty the trash bin? I was frustrated with my pictures not being deleted until I learned I was only moving them to the trash can.

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« Reply #779 on: November 01, 2014, 10:31:25 AM »
How many hangers do women aim to have in their closets?   I am thinking of future downsizing and wondering how much is reasonable to keep?

Depends on how minimal you want to go ;-)  I have 24ish hangers, and other than the occasional time where I need to dry non-hanging items AND all the hanging items are clean that is a good number.  Big enough for variety, small enough to keep everything visible and meaningful.
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« Reply #780 on: November 01, 2014, 11:31:05 AM »
How many hangers do women aim to have in their closets?   I am thinking of future downsizing and wondering how much is reasonable to keep?

Depends on how minimal you want to go ;-)  I have 24ish hangers, and other than the occasional time where I need to dry non-hanging items AND all the hanging items are clean that is a good number.  Big enough for variety, small enough to keep everything visible and meaningful.

I have 35 hangers, but I also have non-hanging clothes folded away in shelves. I'm trying to cull my wardrobe and hang up as many clothes as possible (35 in my case, hah), to visually remind me that I still have those clothes and that I should really wear them. It's really easy to forget you have certain items when they're folded away.

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« Reply #781 on: November 02, 2014, 04:48:19 AM »
How many hangers do women aim to have in their closets?   I am thinking of future downsizing and wondering how much is reasonable to keep?

Depends on how minimal you want to go ;-)  I have 24ish hangers, and other than the occasional time where I need to dry non-hanging items AND all the hanging items are clean that is a good number.  Big enough for variety, small enough to keep everything visible and meaningful.

I have 35 hangers, but I also have non-hanging clothes folded away in shelves. I'm trying to cull my wardrobe and hang up as many clothes as possible (35 in my case, hah), to visually remind me that I still have those clothes and that I should really wear them. It's really easy to forget you have certain items when they're folded away.

I have 50 items of clothing hung up on hangars, but that's *all* of my clothes except for 3 pairs of leggings, scarves, beanies, sunhats, socks, underwear, bras and a pair of swimmers. So it really depends on your clothing storage.

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« Reply #782 on: November 02, 2014, 07:16:09 AM »

Donating a too-small-pair of bowling shoes.

I came up with a trick. Whenever I'm thinking, 'I should spend 20 minutes cleaning up the apartment,' I tell myself that I can get out of it if I can think of one thing to get rid of.

Genius. I am feeling so overwhelmed with our clutter. One thing at a time is really the way.

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« Reply #783 on: November 02, 2014, 09:06:29 PM »
Two boxes are by the door to go out in the morning and we used up three candles tonight.  We should be able to use up all the excess candles by the end of next weekend as well.

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« Reply #784 on: November 03, 2014, 06:18:02 AM »
I was invited to the opening of an office next week where there will be a truck shredding papers for free.  I'm going to bring a box of records-- mostly financial-- that I no longer need to save.  I thought this was a brilliant idea as I otherwise would not go.

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« Reply #785 on: November 03, 2014, 08:08:19 AM »
Finally made some progress on this. I've reorganized my office, and got rid of the collapsed boxes I keep for stuff I may need to return (usually tech of some kind). I cleaned out the spare bedroom and got rid of a full box of old stuff that isn't needed anymore. My SO isn't on board with this at all, so I've only been getting rid of my stuff. While I cleaning up, I did take a minute to count out the number of giant rubbermaid containers. We have 3 in the spare bedroom closet, 3 stacked in the spare bedroom, 2 in our bedroom closet, 1 in the office, and 4 in the shed. On top of that, there are 4 boxes of books in the spare bedroom closet, 3 boxes of I have no idea what stacked in the spare bedroom, and all kinds of crap.
I asked if she wanted to do anything with the two unopened snuggies in the closet, and she got a bit upset and said "FINE! I'll get rid of them". Other things (like a bag of super soft socks with the tags still on - pre-date me moving in 4 years ago) she says are for stocking stuffers.

How did you all get your SO on board? This is a bit of a challenge for me, since I'd pretty much have to get rid of her stuff. My stuff in the house consists of 4 under the bed drawers (I  brought the bed), 2 feet of closet bar in the spare bedroom (no room in our bedroom), and some equipment in the office. Not sure what I can do here, since I haven't even brought it up and caught a bit of heat with just the snuggies. Any ideas? Anybody else have issues with this?
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« Reply #786 on: November 05, 2014, 11:38:29 AM »
Jordanread, it's tough.  DH doesn't want to spend the time decluttering (thinks we have space so we should just leave it alone) and persists in genuinely believing it's all "my" clutter and not his.  (This extends to paperwork.  According to him, 85% of the paper that comes in the house is "mine."  While disagreeing on that percentage, I point out unsuccessfully that I deal with mine but his just sits there forever, including the envelopes and junk that comes with the statement/bill.  I also unsuccessfully point out that as the paperwork is really stressful to me, it would be great if he would help out *even if he thinks it's "mine*.  I have yet to get him to recycle any junk mail though so I'm curious how others get it to work.)

So my method is 1) to work hard on my stuff, 2) to deal with joint stuff (particularly as he thinks its all mine regardless) and only then try 3) set up a specific time with him to deal with a specific area of his such as "the box from your old office 4 years ago."  I hold up items and ask if I can get rid of them while he plays his computer game.  Usually I can get through about half of a single box before he decides he's tired of it.  Sessions generally have to be scheduled months apart, not days or weeks. 

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« Reply #787 on: November 05, 2014, 03:37:31 PM »
Your idea about Peter Walsh makes sense CK.  I was trying to figure out the link between the two in case it was useful.

Cookie, I just emptied the trash to see if that helps. Thanks.

Smalllife, Acorn, Astatine, useful to know.  I don't think I have more than thirty hangers at present but will count.  Right now I still have several different sizes of clothes and once I get to one size I will see what is left.

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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #788 on: November 05, 2014, 03:53:29 PM »
Jordanread, it's tough.  DH doesn't want to spend the time decluttering (thinks we have space so we should just leave it alone) and persists in genuinely believing it's all "my" clutter and not his.  (This extends to paperwork.  According to him, 85% of the paper that comes in the house is "mine."  While disagreeing on that percentage, I point out unsuccessfully that I deal with mine but his just sits there forever, including the envelopes and junk that comes with the statement/bill.  I also unsuccessfully point out that as the paperwork is really stressful to me, it would be great if he would help out *even if he thinks it's "mine*.  I have yet to get him to recycle any junk mail though so I'm curious how others get it to work.)

So my method is 1) to work hard on my stuff, 2) to deal with joint stuff (particularly as he thinks its all mine regardless) and only then try 3) set up a specific time with him to deal with a specific area of his such as "the box from your old office 4 years ago."  I hold up items and ask if I can get rid of them while he plays his computer game.  Usually I can get through about half of a single box before he decides he's tired of it.  Sessions generally have to be scheduled months apart, not days or weeks.


Thanks for the advice. But how does one deal with someone who has no interest in de-cluttering?
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« Reply #789 on: November 05, 2014, 09:44:07 PM »
But how does one deal with someone who has no interest in de-cluttering?

Do you have any plans to move? Or people visiting/staying over for Thanksgiving/Christmas?
Is she interested in anything (crafts, yoga, etc)? Can you propose the idea of clearing out space for a hobby area/exercise corner?

If everything is fine as it is and no major changes are coming up, I can see why people will not want to de-clutter. But if you can create a valid reason as to why you need the space (e.g. for visitors or for a home improvement project), that could help with motivation. I would market it as "de-clutter your things and get more space for your hobbies!" (although hopefully she doesn't have too many things required for her hobbies)

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« Reply #790 on: November 06, 2014, 04:52:22 AM »
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« Reply #791 on: November 06, 2014, 01:13:03 PM »
Thanks for the advice. But how does one deal with someone who has no interest in de-cluttering?

I guess that's what I was driving at - DH doesn't have interest in it.  He does it because I ask (presumably because he wants to make me happy...), but only if I don't nag or harp on it.

Agree with Acorn to figure out her motivations.  Does she like watching HGTV (and their minimal rooms)?  Having guests over?  More space for a workout room?  Preserving kid's stuff in scrapbooks before she forgets?  A bigger house?  Less to clean?  Figure out what might motivate her, and then focus on that in conversations rather than saying "declutter".

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« Reply #792 on: November 06, 2014, 01:44:31 PM »
But how does one deal with someone who has no interest in de-cluttering?

Do you have any plans to move? Or people visiting/staying over for Thanksgiving/Christmas?
Is she interested in anything (crafts, yoga, etc)? Can you propose the idea of clearing out space for a hobby area/exercise corner?

If everything is fine as it is and no major changes are coming up, I can see why people will not want to de-clutter. But if you can create a valid reason as to why you need the space (e.g. for visitors or for a home improvement project), that could help with motivation. I would market it as "de-clutter your things and get more space for your hobbies!" (although hopefully she doesn't have too many things required for her hobbies)

That's the frustrating part. Her family is coming out, and we are moving next year (if we can find a place), and we are cleaning every room top to bottom (one day a week). And still no interest in actually getting rid of things. Just straighten the huge pile of boxes. Cleanliness and clutter are two totally different things, where one is nice, and the other is like...gravity or air. It's just something that is. Doesn't make her mad, not anything that bothers her. It's like that is what a spare bedroom is for, boxes of stuff that is never used. I don't let it get to me, so it's not really a point of contention (as long as I don't ask), but it would be nice to actually get more usable space out of the house, and get rid of the clutter.
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« Reply #793 on: November 06, 2014, 02:08:18 PM »
Can you make the stuff slowly disappear on its own or would it be missed?

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« Reply #794 on: November 06, 2014, 04:00:21 PM »
^ this.

My husband gets overwhelmed by the thought of cleaning out our basement and de-cluttering so my strategy is to do it myself.  I love the feeling of taking chaos and turning it into order.  If there's something that I think he might want, I'll ask - but that usually only involves one or two items at a time.  I've tend to just 'take care' of most items via Freecycle or Craigslist and only once or twice has he ever noticed, much less actually missed the item.  Plus, he's happy when the money I get for our unused items goes for an unbudgeted splurge on pho or a fish dinner.

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« Reply #795 on: November 06, 2014, 05:46:30 PM »
Can you make the stuff slowly disappear on its own or would it be missed?

I wish I would have asked before cleaning...I probably could have gotten at least a few things out of there. Unfortunately, she is becoming aware of most of the stuff now. I might have to be sneaky about some of it, but the main opportunity has passed. I might just have to wait until we move and 'lose' stuff.
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« Reply #796 on: November 06, 2014, 07:02:43 PM »
But how does one deal with someone who has no interest in de-cluttering?

Do you have any plans to move? Or people visiting/staying over for Thanksgiving/Christmas?
Is she interested in anything (crafts, yoga, etc)? Can you propose the idea of clearing out space for a hobby area/exercise corner?

If everything is fine as it is and no major changes are coming up, I can see why people will not want to de-clutter. But if you can create a valid reason as to why you need the space (e.g. for visitors or for a home improvement project), that could help with motivation. I would market it as "de-clutter your things and get more space for your hobbies!" (although hopefully she doesn't have too many things required for her hobbies)

That's the frustrating part. Her family is coming out, and we are moving next year (if we can find a place), and we are cleaning every room top to bottom (one day a week). And still no interest in actually getting rid of things. Just straighten the huge pile of boxes. Cleanliness and clutter are two totally different things, where one is nice, and the other is like...gravity or air. It's just something that is. Doesn't make her mad, not anything that bothers her. It's like that is what a spare bedroom is for, boxes of stuff that is never used. I don't let it get to me, so it's not really a point of contention (as long as I don't ask), but it would be nice to actually get more usable space out of the house, and get rid of the clutter.

Huh, well it's nice that you're laid back about it. They say everyone has a different comfort level with stuff. Personally, it's not something I think about, but I dislike being in a minimalist environment. When I get into a hotel room, I start putting my stuff on all the surfaces :) So it seems like she's on the extreme end. I can see how perfectly nice rooms being used for storage is a bit of a shame, but to her it might feel like if they're empty then it's space that needs to be filled. I would think being really insistent that you need a room for an alternative use would eventually work. It might just mean she's okay with moving stuff to the basement or something, but at least having full storage areas could be used as an argument against getting any more stuff.  And then when you talk about moving to a new place, discuss wanting each space to be optimized and usable for a particular purpose to avoid buying more space than you need.

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« Reply #797 on: November 06, 2014, 07:45:27 PM »
But how does one deal with someone who has no interest in de-cluttering?

Do you have any plans to move? Or people visiting/staying over for Thanksgiving/Christmas?
Is she interested in anything (crafts, yoga, etc)? Can you propose the idea of clearing out space for a hobby area/exercise corner?

If everything is fine as it is and no major changes are coming up, I can see why people will not want to de-clutter. But if you can create a valid reason as to why you need the space (e.g. for visitors or for a home improvement project), that could help with motivation. I would market it as "de-clutter your things and get more space for your hobbies!" (although hopefully she doesn't have too many things required for her hobbies)

That's the frustrating part. Her family is coming out, and we are moving next year (if we can find a place), and we are cleaning every room top to bottom (one day a week). And still no interest in actually getting rid of things. Just straighten the huge pile of boxes. Cleanliness and clutter are two totally different things, where one is nice, and the other is like...gravity or air. It's just something that is. Doesn't make her mad, not anything that bothers her. It's like that is what a spare bedroom is for, boxes of stuff that is never used. I don't let it get to me, so it's not really a point of contention (as long as I don't ask), but it would be nice to actually get more usable space out of the house, and get rid of the clutter.

Huh, well it's nice that you're laid back about it. They say everyone has a different comfort level with stuff. Personally, it's not something I think about, but I dislike being in a minimalist environment. When I get into a hotel room, I start putting my stuff on all the surfaces :) So it seems like she's on the extreme end. I can see how perfectly nice rooms being used for storage is a bit of a shame, but to her it might feel like if they're empty then it's space that needs to be filled. I would think being really insistent that you need a room for an alternative use would eventually work. It might just mean she's okay with moving stuff to the basement or something, but at least having full storage areas could be used as an argument against getting any more stuff.  And then when you talk about moving to a new place, discuss wanting each space to be optimized and usable for a particular purpose to avoid buying more space than you need.
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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #798 on: November 07, 2014, 07:26:18 PM »
My desire to have a clutter free house and my tendency to keep the stuff for "just in case" and just because I paid money for it don't go together. I am in a constant inner struggle. I've gotten very good about clothes - the amount of clothes I have is half a size it was a few years ago. And I am super careful and thoughtful about buying new clothes. There is hope though. We are moving soon - it will give me a chance to go through all the stuff and get rid of a lot of stuff.

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« Reply #799 on: November 07, 2014, 07:56:37 PM »
Our strategy in this regard is simple, yet effective.  Each year we go through our stuff and if we haven't used something in over 1 year AND if we don't plan on using it within the next year, we either give it away to friends, sell it, or donate it.  We recently took this to another level and got rid of a large batch of stuff that we'd fooled ourselves into thinking we were going to use last year.  And not only do we not miss any of it one single bit, but we've netted over $1,000 in cash from Craigslist and eBay, and probably another $500 in tax deductions from donations.

The only real exceptions for us in this regard are tools, as we're constant tinkerers.

The next step for us is to inventory basically everything we have, which presents myriad benefits (e.g., knowing exactly where anything is, having a record in case a disaster or burglary, etc.).