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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #3150 on: January 27, 2016, 04:01:26 PM »
Going to try tackling my closet this week. It won't be easy, there's stuff in there that's been floating around for decades. Old collector's toys, comic books, game stuff, things like that. Plus it currently houses my (personal) camping gear, all our photo albums, kid's toys, and last but not least, clothes.

I can minimize most if not all of that. The real question is going to be what to do with 30-year-old collector's toys? I'm never going to display them. My son doesn't want them. I guess I could sell them, but that would take work...

If you figure out what to do with those toys, let me know. I have a collection of dolls from when I was a kid that more or less my mother and grandmother bought and "collected" for me. They were "good" dolls so I never could play with them and they just sat on display in a case. Some may be worth money, many probably aren't, but I don't know. When I bought a house seven years ago, my mother showed up a with a van load of my stuff and that included these dolls. They sit on shelves in the basement because I don't care about them and can't really be bothered to go through much effort to look into selling them. But she would kill me if I just threw them all in a donation bin because what if one of them was worth something??

I would suggest martial arts or knife fighting. That way, when she tries to kill you, you can hold your own.

Noted. But she attacks with words. It's a skillful maneuver I can use on others in extreme circumstances but against her, I am no match.

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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #3151 on: January 27, 2016, 04:03:07 PM »
Going to try tackling my closet this week. It won't be easy, there's stuff in there that's been floating around for decades. Old collector's toys, comic books, game stuff, things like that. Plus it currently houses my (personal) camping gear, all our photo albums, kid's toys, and last but not least, clothes.

I can minimize most if not all of that. The real question is going to be what to do with 30-year-old collector's toys? I'm never going to display them. My son doesn't want them. I guess I could sell them, but that would take work...

If you figure out what to do with those toys, let me know. I have a collection of dolls from when I was a kid that more or less my mother and grandmother bought and "collected" for me. They were "good" dolls so I never could play with them and they just sat on display in a case. Some may be worth money, many probably aren't, but I don't know. When I bought a house seven years ago, my mother showed up a with a van load of my stuff and that included these dolls. They sit on shelves in the basement because I don't care about them and can't really be bothered to go through much effort to look into selling them. But she would kill me if I just threw them all in a donation bin because what if one of them was worth something??

I would suggest martial arts or knife fighting. That way, when she tries to kill you, you can hold your own.

Noted. But she attacks with words. It's a skillful maneuver I can use on others in extreme circumstances but against her, I am no match.

Laxative then. It's hard to talk shit when...oh yeah. And how would she kill you with words?
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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #3152 on: January 27, 2016, 04:41:06 PM »
Going to try tackling my closet this week. It won't be easy, there's stuff in there that's been floating around for decades. Old collector's toys, comic books, game stuff, things like that. Plus it currently houses my (personal) camping gear, all our photo albums, kid's toys, and last but not least, clothes.

I can minimize most if not all of that. The real question is going to be what to do with 30-year-old collector's toys? I'm never going to display them. My son doesn't want them. I guess I could sell them, but that would take work...

If you figure out what to do with those toys, let me know. I have a collection of dolls from when I was a kid that more or less my mother and grandmother bought and "collected" for me. They were "good" dolls so I never could play with them and they just sat on display in a case. Some may be worth money, many probably aren't, but I don't know. When I bought a house seven years ago, my mother showed up a with a van load of my stuff and that included these dolls. They sit on shelves in the basement because I don't care about them and can't really be bothered to go through much effort to look into selling them. But she would kill me if I just threw them all in a donation bin because what if one of them was worth something??

I would suggest martial arts or knife fighting. That way, when she tries to kill you, you can hold your own.

Noted. But she attacks with words. It's a skillful maneuver I can use on others in extreme circumstances but against her, I am no match.

Laxative then. It's hard to talk shit when...oh yeah. And how would she kill you with words?

Never mind. :) I was just saying, she would't kill me physically, just slay me with words telling me i'm a disappointment and careless if I were to do something like donate all the dolls and then find out the collection was worth well over $1,000 or something.

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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #3153 on: January 27, 2016, 06:19:21 PM »
Going to try tackling my closet this week. It won't be easy, there's stuff in there that's been floating around for decades. Old collector's toys, comic books, game stuff, things like that. Plus it currently houses my (personal) camping gear, all our photo albums, kid's toys, and last but not least, clothes.

I can minimize most if not all of that. The real question is going to be what to do with 30-year-old collector's toys? I'm never going to display them. My son doesn't want them. I guess I could sell them, but that would take work...

If you figure out what to do with those toys, let me know. I have a collection of dolls from when I was a kid that more or less my mother and grandmother bought and "collected" for me. They were "good" dolls so I never could play with them and they just sat on display in a case. Some may be worth money, many probably aren't, but I don't know. When I bought a house seven years ago, my mother showed up a with a van load of my stuff and that included these dolls. They sit on shelves in the basement because I don't care about them and can't really be bothered to go through much effort to look into selling them. But she would kill me if I just threw them all in a donation bin because what if one of them was worth something??

I would suggest martial arts or knife fighting. That way, when she tries to kill you, you can hold your own.

Noted. But she attacks with words. It's a skillful maneuver I can use on others in extreme circumstances but against her, I am no match.

Laxative then. It's hard to talk shit when...oh yeah. And how would she kill you with words?

Never mind. :) I was just saying, she would't kill me physically, just slay me with words telling me i'm a disappointment and careless if I were to do something like donate all the dolls and then find out the collection was worth well over $1,000 or something.
I knew what you meant. I was just feeling snarky. Plus the idea of attacking with laxative made me giggle. I'm done now.
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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #3154 on: January 27, 2016, 06:30:29 PM »
Going to try tackling my closet this week. It won't be easy, there's stuff in there that's been floating around for decades. Old collector's toys, comic books, game stuff, things like that. Plus it currently houses my (personal) camping gear, all our photo albums, kid's toys, and last but not least, clothes.

I can minimize most if not all of that. The real question is going to be what to do with 30-year-old collector's toys? I'm never going to display them. My son doesn't want them. I guess I could sell them, but that would take work...

If you figure out what to do with those toys, let me know. I have a collection of dolls from when I was a kid that more or less my mother and grandmother bought and "collected" for me. They were "good" dolls so I never could play with them and they just sat on display in a case. Some may be worth money, many probably aren't, but I don't know. When I bought a house seven years ago, my mother showed up a with a van load of my stuff and that included these dolls. They sit on shelves in the basement because I don't care about them and can't really be bothered to go through much effort to look into selling them. But she would kill me if I just threw them all in a donation bin because what if one of them was worth something??

I would suggest martial arts or knife fighting. That way, when she tries to kill you, you can hold your own.

Noted. But she attacks with words. It's a skillful maneuver I can use on others in extreme circumstances but against her, I am no match.

Laxative then. It's hard to talk shit when...oh yeah. And how would she kill you with words?

Never mind. :) I was just saying, she would't kill me physically, just slay me with words telling me i'm a disappointment and careless if I were to do something like donate all the dolls and then find out the collection was worth well over $1,000 or something.
I knew what you meant. I was just feeling snarky. Plus the idea of attacking with laxative made me giggle. I'm done now.
I appreciate the snark. Now give me some damn ideas on how to unload this stuff! :) But really, I tried eBay a few years ago with some "collector" Holiday Barbies and they went for like 20 to 35 bucks each. Probably about what was paid for them back in the 90s, but then there are eBay fees and PayPal fees and the hassle of shipping. Just doesn't seem worth the effort, but maybe that's why I'm a mustachian in training and not FI yet!

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« Reply #3155 on: January 27, 2016, 06:53:52 PM »
The nice trash collectors came around today and took two bins full of the non-burnable wood scraps and other assorted detritus from the shop cleanout.

Shipped off a book that finally sold on Amazon after several months.

Started my horses on a new feed program so I can simply drop the bag of feed and vitamins off out at the barn ever two weeks instead of measuring and dispensing things at home and then bringing them out.  Less waste, one less thing for me to worry about, and no more clutter from the bags and bottles I was measuring the feed rations into.

Got rid of some padded envelopes I was saving to re-use since I am getting low on salable things that would fit in them.

Not getting rid of things, but I figured out a nifty way of hanging my muddy riding boots in the garage so they're off the floor so they can dry out instead of creating mucky garage clutter.

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« Reply #3156 on: January 27, 2016, 09:18:18 PM »
Also, can old batteries be tossed into regular garbage or are they considered hazardous waste?

Batteries can be recycled. I think Home Depot and Best Buy have battery recycling boxes.


You can also recycle batteries, light bulbs and plastic bags at Lowe's. There are bins in the Returns area. 

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« Reply #3157 on: January 27, 2016, 09:31:25 PM »

I tried eBay a few years ago with some "collector" Holiday Barbies and they went for like 20 to 35 bucks each. Probably about what was paid for them back in the 90s, but then there are eBay fees and PayPal fees and the hassle of shipping. Just doesn't seem worth the effort, but maybe that's why I'm a mustachian in training and not FI yet!

In the past year I sold many old dolls and toys on eBay, and did well with *some* of the items. The highest price items were 2 old German dolls from the early 1900s, and some 1960s-70s Barbie dolls & clothes. Your instincts are correct about Barbies from the 80s and 90s not selling for much. I ended up donating most of those (except for the very unusual, one of a kind Barbies from that era). We were able to use the tax deduction this year, so it made more sense (and cents) to donate them. :-)

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« Reply #3158 on: January 28, 2016, 06:27:17 AM »
Mostly christmas gifts went ok this time around. Got a nice, new lightweight mini-backpack, so now I can take that and not my old college-pack on woodland tours. Also got towels and food and even a set of frying pans I really needed.

But I also got a shoe tree-ornament. What? Why does soeone give a shoe-ornament to anyone, especially someone who does not put up a tree for the holidays? And so now I have to get rid of it while not tossing it in the trash. I wanted a bottle of wine. Happily cheap wine: at least I can cook with that and recycle the bottle.

In my out-stack I currently have old medications (need to get them safely disposed of at the farmacy), a few old cookbooks, a binder and a faux leather jacket that I love to look at but hate to wear.

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« Reply #3159 on: January 28, 2016, 08:18:51 AM »

I appreciate the snark. Now give me some damn ideas on how to unload this stuff! :) But really, I tried eBay a few years ago with some "collector" Holiday Barbies and they went for like 20 to 35 bucks each. Probably about what was paid for them back in the 90s, but then there are eBay fees and PayPal fees and the hassle of shipping. Just doesn't seem worth the effort, but maybe that's why I'm a mustachian in training and not FI yet!

Wow, you did well on those. Last I looked they weren't even worth what I paid in the 90s (still had tags on them).  I just gave them to my cousins as Christmas gifts. They love Barbies.

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« Reply #3160 on: January 28, 2016, 08:33:46 AM »
If you figure out what to do with those toys, let me know. I have a collection of dolls from when I was a kid that more or less my mother and grandmother bought and "collected" for me. They were "good" dolls so I never could play with them and they just sat on display in a case. Some may be worth money, many probably aren't, but I don't know. When I bought a house seven years ago, my mother showed up a with a van load of my stuff and that included these dolls. They sit on shelves in the basement because I don't care about them and can't really be bothered to go through much effort to look into selling them. But she would kill me if I just threw them all in a donation bin because what if one of them was worth something??

I feel your pain. I have roughly $1500 worth of Transformers from the 80's (based on ratings from ToyFare Magazine). All original, with all the pieces and everything. Some of them were mail-order-only and are pretty rare. But holy cow, I don't want to pack up, list, and ship a couple hundred pieces! It would take weeks to get all that photographed, packed, and listed, not to mention selling the stuff and dealing with the hassle of buyers who are picky, etc.

I may find someone who's a collector and unload the whole lot for a decent price, but even that would take some work.
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« Reply #3161 on: January 28, 2016, 08:51:55 AM »
If you just want to get rid of them, you might be able to sell the lot for $300-500 if it's really worth $1500.
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« Reply #3162 on: January 28, 2016, 10:36:34 AM »
If you just want to get rid of them, you might be able to sell the lot for $300-500 if it's really worth $1500.
Just quick and gone.

Hmm, maybe that's the way to go! Good suggestion!

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« Reply #3163 on: January 28, 2016, 12:51:32 PM »
I seem to always keep a bag in the entry way to fill with random bits to donate. I'm looking forward to the day when I don't have this.

Or does that day never come?
For me it hasn't arrived yet, just because I'm now SO picky about what I let into the house. So though I don't buy things, and I try not to accept freebies wherever possible, gifts are my personal bugbear.

We enjoy entertaining, and unless it's wine, sorry, I'm going to donate it. Christmas, birthdays, people just visiting for drinks and bringing a pot holder, a cute coffee mug etc. Sorry, none of it is coming in.

So unless I start refusing well-intentioned gifts (can't see that happening) I think I'll always have the 'donate' box ready and waiting. The difference is that I'm not 'finding' things to go in it from around the house, they are being given to me, and I won't let them 'into the house' in the first place.

the last couple of years, family knows what to give me that i will keep and enjoy (i would prefer no gifts but family is not on board- some of us are, but not my parents at all). so i am mostly receiving cash, giftcards, and a couple things i like (by now they know i am very very picky is regards to clothing and jewelry). everything else i tend to regift, mostly to coworkers or i donate. and am happy for my "gift" of tax writeoffs. i would never tell anyone i dont like their gifts, that is hurtful, and i always thank with a smile BEFORE even opening gifts, because they are family and friends and they deserve a loving responce imo.

anyway, at this point i feel good about what i have, and dont bring much new into the house, excepting necessities and the clothing castoffs from my coworkers that i am grateful for (and they fit and are stylish) because i dont have to buy hardly any clothing ever!

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« Reply #3164 on: January 28, 2016, 06:29:52 PM »
Got rid of a plastic grocery bag full of underused winter hats and gloves.  Wife is taking them to donation bin at school.   More stuff out of the house and going to someone who can hopefully make use of them!

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« Reply #3165 on: January 29, 2016, 02:38:48 PM »
ZiziPB you are inspiring me. I wish I had the selling DNA but I seem to have a belief that it is too overwhelming.

I have broken my plan into weekly steps which include repairing three things a week. I emptied out two closets this week to examine old stuff and got rid of some and made notes on how to repair the rest. Some days it is exciting, others it is tiring.  Today it seems tiring, because I have things sitting out in piles and there is no sense of completion. I need to focus on the joys of clear spaces.

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« Reply #3166 on: January 29, 2016, 03:04:28 PM »
I'm counting down the minutes (57) until I can leave work, go home, and continue my closet clear out. Then my goal for Saturday morning is to bring the large bags of stuff I have collected to the thrift store.

I cannot believe I got rid of MANY garbage bags of things this summer and still have a few shopping bags of stuff to go out now.

But parting with things isn't the problem for me, actually loading them up and taking them someplace is. :-P

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« Reply #3167 on: January 29, 2016, 03:34:56 PM »
But parting with things isn't the problem for me, actually loading them up and taking them someplace is. :-P

Get yourself on a list for Goodwill or one of the other organizations that will pick up from your house.  I have Amvets coming on the 2nd! I just leave it on the porch and they give me a receipt when they pick up. I too have trouble getting my lazy butt in the car.
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« Reply #3168 on: January 29, 2016, 03:41:16 PM »
But parting with things isn't the problem for me, actually loading them up and taking them someplace is. :-P

Get yourself on a list for Goodwill or one of the other organizations that will pick up from your house.  I have Amvets coming on the 2nd! I just leave it on the porch and they give me a receipt when they pick up. I too have trouble getting my lazy butt in the car.

I'll look into that! Thanks!

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« Reply #3169 on: January 29, 2016, 05:34:21 PM »
I'm counting down the minutes (57) until I can leave work, go home, and continue my closet clear out. Then my goal for Saturday morning is to bring the large bags of stuff I have collected to the thrift store.

I cannot believe I got rid of MANY garbage bags of things this summer and still have a few shopping bags of stuff to go out now.

But parting with things isn't the problem for me, actually loading them up and taking them someplace is. :-P

yes, it becomes fun doesn't it? but mostly, such a great feeling of accomplishment and spaciousness!

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« Reply #3170 on: January 30, 2016, 07:58:59 AM »
6 pairs of shoes, 8 pieces of clothing, 4 scarves, and four already full bags of stuff waiting to be donated!

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« Reply #3171 on: January 30, 2016, 09:04:16 AM »
I am going to drop off another small batch of stuff at the consignment store at lunchtime today.  Hopefully, I have some money in the account so that I can pick up a check from them :-) Done - got a check for $80

Tossed some random old unused greeting cards into recycling this morning. 

Plan of attack for this week:
- go through hats and scarves - I have way too many... Done - getting rid of 7 scarves and 2 hats.  The sad part is that it barely made a dent in my scraf/shawl collection.
- do another sweep through the kitchen cupboards Made a half-hearted attempt at this - tossed one plastic container into recycling...  Need to do more. Went through the meds that I keep in one of the kitchen cupboards - got rid of anything expired or not likely to be used again
- go through my knitting supplies, books and yarns and consolidate into two plastic bins Done - tossed a lot of patterns I had printed out.  Figured out my next two knitting projects.  Bins are ready to go upstairs.
- find room for said bins in the walk in closet
- sort through skiing clothing (there are things there that I'm sure don't fit me any more... and it is another bin that needs to go upstairs)
- organize condo documents - toss anything not needed Done.  Also went through two drawers that hold office things, stationery, etc. and tossed a bunch of stuff.  Made room for the [now organized] condo documents.
- sort through CDs (a good number of them need to go back to my ex) - I'm hoping to reduce the number of CDs I have by half

That should keep me busy enough through the weekend :-)



Keeping at it this morning :-)  Now I'm going to clean the bathrooms and the kitchen and vacuum.  Planning to tackles the rest of the declutter list this afternoon.

Edited to fix the plural of kitchens - I only have one kitchen ;-)
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« Reply #3172 on: January 30, 2016, 09:11:45 AM »
Haven't been to this thread before, but DH and I read through "The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up" last weekend and started our Marie Kondo inspired clean out this weekend, yesterday beginning with with clothes, subset tops. So far, three bags of tops we are going to donate. Today's task is pants. The whole konmari method seems to really make sense for both DH and I, for a variety of reasons, but the main one for me is that, if something sparks joy for him, I am much happier with him keeping it/storing it. For myself, I am more likely to get rid of things that I don't wear or enjoy anymore, but DH grew up in a household where you didn't throw things away because they might be useful at some point. In our one bedroom apartment and with our savings, I've tried to remind him that we don't have space to store things and if he needs to replace, he can feel free to spend the money, but that hasn't worked in the nearly 8 years we've been married. But he freely gave up a whole bag of shirts yesterday, even thanking some of the more sentimental objects for their service (I think this method is especially charming because my DH did study abroad in Japan so some of the cultural references make sense to him). Magic!
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« Reply #3173 on: January 30, 2016, 10:34:14 AM »
Wife dropped off 8 bags of clothes and 2 boxes of books to Goodwill today.
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« Reply #3174 on: January 30, 2016, 12:35:09 PM »
Haven't been to this thread before, but DH and I read through "The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up" last weekend and started our Marie Kondo inspired clean out this weekend, yesterday beginning with with clothes, subset tops. So far, three bags of tops we are going to donate. Today's task is pants. The whole konmari method seems to really make sense for both DH and I, for a variety of reasons, but the main one for me is that, if something sparks joy for him, I am much happier with him keeping it/storing it. For myself, I am more likely to get rid of things that I don't wear or enjoy anymore, but DH grew up in a household where you didn't throw things away because they might be useful at some point. In our one bedroom apartment and with our savings, I've tried to remind him that we don't have space to store things and if he needs to replace, he can feel free to spend the money, but that hasn't worked in the nearly 8 years we've been married. But he freely gave up a whole bag of shirts yesterday, even thanking some of the more sentimental objects for their service (I think this method is especially charming because my DH did study abroad in Japan so some of the cultural references make sense to him). Magic!

I love the idea of seeing your DH thanking his items. :) But no, really, the book helped me as well. I was holding on to things like old bridesmaid dresses because they were special event items, but really, what is the point? I finally donated them all. Then this summer my mom showed up with about 10 dresses from my childhood. What the hell am I supposed to do with those? I'm going to first see if my sister or SIL wants them for her girls to play dress up, but then out they go!
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« Reply #3175 on: January 30, 2016, 01:16:30 PM »
I am going to drop off another small batch of stuff at the consignment store at lunchtime today.  Hopefully, I have some money in the account so that I can pick up a check from them :-) Done - got a check for $80

Tossed some random old unused greeting cards into recycling this morning. 

Plan of attack for this week:
- go through hats and scarves - I have way too many... Done - getting rid of 7 scarves and 2 hats.  The sad part is that it barely made a dent in my scraf/shawl collection.
- do another sweep through the kitchen cupboards Made a half-hearted attempt at this - tossed one plastic container into recycling...  Need to do more. Went through the meds that I keep in one of the kitchen cupboards - got rid of anything expired or not likely to be used again
- go through my knitting supplies, books and yarns and consolidate into two plastic bins Done - tossed a lot of patterns I had printed out.  Figured out my next two knitting projects.  Bins are ready to go upstairs.
- find room for said bins in the walk in closet Done
- sort through skiing clothing (there are things there that I'm sure don't fit me any more... and it is another bin that needs to go upstairs)And done... except that I really didn't get rid of much :-(
- organize condo documents - toss anything not needed Done.  Also went through two drawers that hold office things, stationery, etc. and tossed a bunch of stuff.  Made room for the [now organized] condo documents.
- sort through CDs (a good number of them need to go back to my ex) - I'm hoping to reduce the number of CDs I have by half

That should keep me busy enough through the weekend :-)


Keeping at it this morning :-)  Now I'm going to clean the bathrooms and the kitchen and vacuum.  Planning to tackles the rest of the declutter list this afternoon.

Edited to fix the plural of kitchens - I only have one kitchen ;-)

The bins are now in my walk in closet which looks full again.  Which I guess is good because it will give me an incentive to get rid of some more things...

Strange thoughts swirling in my head as I was going through various items today....  For example, I have a long black wool coat that has been on the donation list for several years now, yet every time I pull it out, I end up putting it back into the closet.  Every time, the thought in my head is "what if I need it to wear it to a funeral?".  And some other things that I'm debating getting rid of make me think along the same lines, what if I need these some time in the future?  So I'm trying to think through these thoughts logically.  I'm telling myself that I have plenty of money to buy anything I need at any point in time for any special occasion (which is absolutely true).  However, once I think all this through to the end, it turns out that I am scared that the money will disappear in some catastrophic event, that there will be a war and we will all be cold and hungry, and that my woolen coat (or whatever other item) will be very handy...  Seriously?!!  I think I have a problem - an irrational fear of becoming a bag lady!  Anyone else in the same boat?



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« Reply #3176 on: January 30, 2016, 02:40:24 PM »
My inner bag lady musings aside, I actually got a lot done today, including cleaning the entire house, changing sheets on two beds and doing 4 loads of laundry.  I also took down our Christmas decorations outside.  And all the decluttering above.  I'm beat.  I think the CDs will wait till tomorrow.



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« Reply #3177 on: January 30, 2016, 03:13:58 PM »
Lots of stuff flying out the door here today. Gave away a filing cabinet (now I have a ton of shredding to do), some binders and school supplies, sheets, towels and a recliner. The recliner really warmed my heart as it was my husband's and it had sentimental value. However, a disabled lady in a wheelchair needed one for her disabled daughter that can't sleep laying down, so I was happy to give it to her. She was so grateful. She thanked me over and over.

Someone else is supposed to be coming for a crystal whiskey decanter set tomorrow (sold for $10) that was a wedding present (30 years ago) and we never even took it out of the box.

Also threw out a bunch of old sheets and miscellaneous crap that wasn't even worth donating.

My goal is that when I eventually downsize to a condo I won't have a shit ton of stuff to deal with. I saw what my parents had to deal with. The trick is to stop more stuff coming in the door in the meantime.

Now to decide what to do with a really nice set of pots and pans that my son left here, and says he doesn't want.

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« Reply #3178 on: January 30, 2016, 04:10:47 PM »
I am going to drop off another small batch of stuff at the consignment store at lunchtime today.  Hopefully, I have some money in the account so that I can pick up a check from them :-) Done - got a check for $80

Tossed some random old unused greeting cards into recycling this morning. 

Plan of attack for this week:
- go through hats and scarves - I have way too many... Done - getting rid of 7 scarves and 2 hats.  The sad part is that it barely made a dent in my scraf/shawl collection.
- do another sweep through the kitchen cupboards Made a half-hearted attempt at this - tossed one plastic container into recycling...  Need to do more. Went through the meds that I keep in one of the kitchen cupboards - got rid of anything expired or not likely to be used again
- go through my knitting supplies, books and yarns and consolidate into two plastic bins Done - tossed a lot of patterns I had printed out.  Figured out my next two knitting projects.  Bins are ready to go upstairs.
- find room for said bins in the walk in closet Done
- sort through skiing clothing (there are things there that I'm sure don't fit me any more... and it is another bin that needs to go upstairs)And done... except that I really didn't get rid of much :-(
- organize condo documents - toss anything not needed Done.  Also went through two drawers that hold office things, stationery, etc. and tossed a bunch of stuff.  Made room for the [now organized] condo documents.
- sort through CDs (a good number of them need to go back to my ex) - I'm hoping to reduce the number of CDs I have by half

That should keep me busy enough through the weekend :-)


Keeping at it this morning :-)  Now I'm going to clean the bathrooms and the kitchen and vacuum.  Planning to tackles the rest of the declutter list this afternoon.

Edited to fix the plural of kitchens - I only have one kitchen ;-)

The bins are now in my walk in closet which looks full again.  Which I guess is good because it will give me an incentive to get rid of some more things...

Strange thoughts swirling in my head as I was going through various items today....  For example, I have a long black wool coat that has been on the donation list for several years now, yet every time I pull it out, I end up putting it back into the closet.  Every time, the thought in my head is "what if I need it to wear it to a funeral?".  And some other things that I'm debating getting rid of make me think along the same lines, what if I need these some time in the future?  So I'm trying to think through these thoughts logically.  I'm telling myself that I have plenty of money to buy anything I need at any point in time for any special occasion (which is absolutely true).  However, once I think all this through to the end, it turns out that I am scared that the money will disappear in some catastrophic event, that there will be a war and we will all be cold and hungry, and that my woolen coat (or whatever other item) will be very handy...  Seriously?!!  I think I have a problem - an irrational fear of becoming a bag lady!  Anyone else in the same boat?


I don't know. It you know that you will want to have a black coat for any winter funeral that may come up, and you have such a coat now, why would you throw it out and plan to spend money later on a new one? It seems to me that's the irrational ideas and unmustachain to boot. Of course, I'm of an age that funerals are becoming more frequent, but people are also more likely to die in winter if they're ill, so...

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« Reply #3179 on: January 30, 2016, 05:50:16 PM »
Strange thoughts swirling in my head as I was going through various items today....  For example, I have a long black wool coat that has been on the donation list for several years now, yet every time I pull it out, I end up putting it back into the closet.  Every time, the thought in my head is "what if I need it to wear it to a funeral?".  And some other things that I'm debating getting rid of make me think along the same lines, what if I need these some time in the future?  So I'm trying to think through these thoughts logically.  I'm telling myself that I have plenty of money to buy anything I need at any point in time for any special occasion (which is absolutely true).  However, once I think all this through to the end, it turns out that I am scared that the money will disappear in some catastrophic event, that there will be a war and we will all be cold and hungry, and that my woolen coat (or whatever other item) will be very handy...  Seriously?!!  I think I have a problem - an irrational fear of becoming a bag lady!  Anyone else in the same boat?


I don't know. It you know that you will want to have a black coat for any winter funeral that may come up, and you have such a coat now, why would you throw it out and plan to spend money later on a new one? It seems to me that's the irrational ideas and unmustachain to boot. Of course, I'm of an age that funerals are becoming more frequent, but people are also more likely to die in winter if they're ill, so...

Could you wear the coat during winter? A black coat seems very versatile. I try to minimize special occasion clothing by incorporating them into my daily wardrobe.

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« Reply #3180 on: January 30, 2016, 06:13:29 PM »
Thanks, Acorn & Rural, for the suggestions. I haven't worn this coat in a few years. I have a couple of other winter coats that are more comfortable for everyday wear. And I'm trying to reduce stuff in preparation for major downsizing in a couple of years. But the other coats are not dressy. I'm still undecided, I guess.



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« Reply #3181 on: January 31, 2016, 03:15:19 AM »

Strange thoughts swirling in my head as I was going through various items today....  For example, I have a long black wool coat that has been on the donation list for several years now, yet every time I pull it out, I end up putting it back into the closet.  Every time, the thought in my head is "what if I need it to wear it to a funeral?".  And some other things that I'm debating getting rid of make me think along the same lines, what if I need these some time in the future?  So I'm trying to think through these thoughts logically.  I'm telling myself that I have plenty of money to buy anything I need at any point in time for any special occasion (which is absolutely true).  However, once I think all this through to the end, it turns out that I am scared that the money will disappear in some catastrophic event, that there will be a war and we will all be cold and hungry, and that my woolen coat (or whatever other item) will be very handy...  Seriously?!!  I think I have a problem - an irrational fear of becoming a bag lady!  Anyone else in the same boat?

No, I have had the same fears. I've read (a Suze Orman book maybe) that a lot of women have “bag lady syndrome".

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« Reply #3182 on: January 31, 2016, 04:35:16 AM »

Strange thoughts swirling in my head as I was going through various items today....  For example, I have a long black wool coat that has been on the donation list for several years now, yet every time I pull it out, I end up putting it back into the closet.  Every time, the thought in my head is "what if I need it to wear it to a funeral?".  And some other things that I'm debating getting rid of make me think along the same lines, what if I need these some time in the future?  So I'm trying to think through these thoughts logically.  I'm telling myself that I have plenty of money to buy anything I need at any point in time for any special occasion (which is absolutely true).  However, once I think all this through to the end, it turns out that I am scared that the money will disappear in some catastrophic event, that there will be a war and we will all be cold and hungry, and that my woolen coat (or whatever other item) will be very handy...  Seriously?!!  I think I have a problem - an irrational fear of becoming a bag lady!  Anyone else in the same boat?

No, I have had the same fears. I've read (a Suze Orman book maybe) that a lot of women have “bag lady syndrome".
Good to know I'm not the only one!  I need to work on getting over these fears - any suggestions?



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« Reply #3183 on: January 31, 2016, 07:03:28 AM »
I decided to stop wearing clear nail varnish so I found some more clutter to discard today. I think it is fairly pointless and my fingernails keep breaking (and I work from home!) so I will see if they improve going natural.:)


Strange thoughts swirling in my head as I was going through various items today....  For example, I have a long black wool coat that has been on the donation list for several years now, yet every time I pull it out, I end up putting it back into the closet.  Every time, the thought in my head is "what if I need it to wear it to a funeral?".  And some other things that I'm debating getting rid of make me think along the same lines, what if I need these some time in the future?  So I'm trying to think through these thoughts logically.  I'm telling myself that I have plenty of money to buy anything I need at any point in time for any special occasion (which is absolutely true).  However, once I think all this through to the end, it turns out that I am scared that the money will disappear in some catastrophic event, that there will be a war and we will all be cold and hungry, and that my woolen coat (or whatever other item) will be very handy...  Seriously?!!  I think I have a problem - an irrational fear of becoming a bag lady!  Anyone else in the same boat?

No, I have had the same fears. I've read (a Suze Orman book maybe) that a lot of women have “bag lady syndrome".
Good to know I'm not the only one!  I need to work on getting over these fears - any suggestions?

I still think about it when I wake up some nights so I'm not sure! I do try to look at it in a practical way and realise that I am very well off compared to most people in the world, I have savings in the bank, I live in a country with a good social safety net etc...

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« Reply #3184 on: February 01, 2016, 07:19:54 AM »
Re: bag lady fears, I don't really experience this, so I'm lucky in that regard but I wonder if you could look for the positives in being prepared for a bad situation eg. if there is an economic downturn, you'll be more ready to move for a new job, unencumbered by stuff. You would be able to take opportunities others can't.

By not having much stuff (and bringing no more in) you are saving a lot and therefore less likely to ever be in that situation.

Each thing you get rid of makes you more resourceful and self-sufficient (eg if you only have one hat and it gets a hole, you would darn it), which would be good preparation.

And finally, hanging onto old stuff or not won't affect wether said terrible event is going to happen in the first place. You are not preventing anything bad from happening by keeping it. You are just ensuring that your life up to that point will be more stressful and draining and tiring, worsening your health, which would be the most important thing you could take into a disaster zone. I see is as kind of self-care. Making your life good and happy now puts you in the best stead for later adversity.

Oh, and also, one more moth-eaten old coat isn't going to help much, really.

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« Reply #3185 on: February 01, 2016, 08:31:09 AM »
Major book purge this weekend. Charity pick up is coming in a week. I had five 6 foot tall bills bookcases. They,were each 3 feet wide. I a, down to three 3-foot high and wide book shelves now. When I started the book purge several months ago it was very slow going. Now I just grab handfuls and toss them into boxes. I have a much better sense of which wants I actually want to keep. I need a few more boxes because the remaining books won't fit on the shelves, so more have to go. I ran out of boxes last night, but I can get some more today.

As a lifetime hoarder of books, a keep every book I read person, a maybe I will reread it, maybe my children will want it, maybe it will be valuable, maybe sometime I wil.have time to read it person - I am kicking butt getting rid of books.

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« Reply #3186 on: February 01, 2016, 08:55:25 AM »
Re: bag lady fears, I don't really experience this, so I'm lucky in that regard but I wonder if you could look for the positives in being prepared for a bad situation eg. if there is an economic downturn, you'll be more ready to move for a new job, unencumbered by stuff. You would be able to take opportunities others can't.

By not having much stuff (and bringing no more in) you are saving a lot and therefore less likely to ever be in that situation.

Each thing you get rid of makes you more resourceful and self-sufficient (eg if you only have one hat and it gets a hole, you would darn it), which would be good preparation.

And finally, hanging onto old stuff or not won't affect wether said terrible event is going to happen in the first place. You are not preventing anything bad from happening by keeping it. You are just ensuring that your life up to that point will be more stressful and draining and tiring, worsening your health, which would be the most important thing you could take into a disaster zone. I see is as kind of self-care. Making your life good and happy now puts you in the best stead for later adversity.

Oh, and also, one more moth-eaten old coat isn't going to help much, really.

Thank you, theadvicist.  What you are saying is very reasonable and logical.  Bag lady fears are totally irrational, however, and are not easily influenced by logical thought :-)

Case in point: I logged into Fidelity yesterday to look at my accounts and for some reason my 401k was not displayed and excluded from the total number.  A brief moment of panic - what do I do?  How do I prove to anyone that I actually had a 401k?  And how can I prove what was in it? What would I ever do if, say, Fidelity told me that they have no record of my accounts?  After all, my NW is just a number displayed electronically on the screen.  What if it just disappeared one day???

As to the coat, I read a book last year about the siege of Leningrad during WWII and how the inhabitants of the city dealt with the cold and hunger.

This is all tongue in cheek of course, but you see how crazy we can drive ourselves with thoughts like that...



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« Reply #3187 on: February 01, 2016, 09:20:25 AM »

Thank you, theadvicist.  What you are saying is very reasonable and logical.  Bag lady fears are totally irrational, however, and are not easily influenced by logical thought :-)

Case in point: I logged into Fidelity yesterday to look at my accounts and for some reason my 401k was not displayed and excluded from the total number.  A brief moment of panic - what do I do?  How do I prove to anyone that I actually had a 401k?  And how can I prove what was in it? What would I ever do if, say, Fidelity told me that they have no record of my accounts?  After all, my NW is just a number displayed electronically on the screen.  What if it just disappeared one day???

As to the coat, I read a book last year about the siege of Leningrad during WWII and how the inhabitants of the city dealt with the cold and hunger.

This is all tongue in cheek of course, but you see how crazy we can drive ourselves with thoughts like that...

I get what you're saying about how irrational it all is, but... the only think you can counter that with is being rational. Or maybe therapy. I'm not being facetious - I had therapy for something unrelated, and we touched on how I held onto things (for other reasons). It took some work but we reprogrammed my thinking from, "This might be useful some day!" to, "the space and the peace of mind is useful TODAY". So I was just throwing some ideas out there to see if they might hold any sway with you.

When it comes to the markets all crashing etc (and to some extent Fidelity losing all their records) I tend to think, "we're all in the sh*t anyway, so it won't make any difference", but I understand others might find that more scary than comforting! If it's just a small computer glitch, no need to worry because they will have that covered with backups etc.

Am I helping or should I shush?

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« Reply #3188 on: February 01, 2016, 09:26:56 AM »

Thank you, theadvicist.  What you are saying is very reasonable and logical.  Bag lady fears are totally irrational, however, and are not easily influenced by logical thought :-)

Case in point: I logged into Fidelity yesterday to look at my accounts and for some reason my 401k was not displayed and excluded from the total number.  A brief moment of panic - what do I do?  How do I prove to anyone that I actually had a 401k?  And how can I prove what was in it? What would I ever do if, say, Fidelity told me that they have no record of my accounts?  After all, my NW is just a number displayed electronically on the screen.  What if it just disappeared one day???

As to the coat, I read a book last year about the siege of Leningrad during WWII and how the inhabitants of the city dealt with the cold and hunger.

This is all tongue in cheek of course, but you see how crazy we can drive ourselves with thoughts like that...

I get what you're saying about how irrational it all is, but... the only think you can counter that with is being rational. Or maybe therapy. I'm not being facetious - I had therapy for something unrelated, and we touched on how I held onto things (for other reasons). It took some work but we reprogrammed my thinking from, "This might be useful some day!" to, "the space and the peace of mind is useful TODAY". So I was just throwing some ideas out there to see if they might hold any sway with you.

When it comes to the markets all crashing etc (and to some extent Fidelity losing all their records) I tend to think, "we're all in the sh*t anyway, so it won't make any difference", but I understand others might find that more scary than comforting! If it's just a small computer glitch, no need to worry because they will have that covered with backups etc.

Am I helping or should I shush?

Oh, you are definitely helping!  The strange thing is that I am generally a very rational, well organized and logical problem solver, so these kinds of thoughts are totally out of character for me...  And I am not a hoarder by any means.  My house is very well organized, very neat and I know exactly where everything is. Yet, sometimes I hit a wall with some things...



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« Reply #3189 on: February 01, 2016, 02:21:58 PM »
I will admit to having regrets about donating quite a few of my books, but still can rent most from the library so no big deal! Hav ordered one of my favs to reread.

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« Reply #3190 on: February 01, 2016, 03:43:47 PM »
And finally, hanging onto old stuff or not won't affect wether said terrible event is going to happen in the first place. You are not preventing anything bad from happening by keeping it. You are just ensuring that your life up to that point will be more stressful and draining and tiring,

"If I keep this old coat, that will prevent me from being thrown out onto the streets where I would need to use it as a blanket. "

I'm guilty of this kind of thinking, not so much about things, but in relation to worry. If I *worry* about a potential disaster sufficiently, that will prevent it from happening. If I fully anticipate every possible problem (in vivid detail and at length), those problems won't happen.

The result is that I constantly experience worry and fear, anticipating all sorts of terrible things that are not likely to happen.  Of course this completely destroys any feeling of peace or joy in the present. It's like filling your mind with stuff you hate. I've been doing this for years without even realizing it. Now that I know, I can try to control it (though it's hard).
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« Reply #3191 on: February 01, 2016, 07:06:05 PM »
I worry a lot about disasters too. My solution to this is to build a proper emergency kit (radio, flashlight, dry food, etc). That way, when I have bag lady fears, I take comfort that I still have my emergency kit and it is OK to let go of this one.

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« Reply #3192 on: February 02, 2016, 12:31:14 AM »

Strange thoughts swirling in my head as I was going through various items today....  For example, I have a long black wool coat that has been on the donation list for several years now, yet every time I pull it out, I end up putting it back into the closet.  Every time, the thought in my head is "what if I need it to wear it to a funeral?".  And some other things that I'm debating getting rid of make me think along the same lines, what if I need these some time in the future?  So I'm trying to think through these thoughts logically.  I'm telling myself that I have plenty of money to buy anything I need at any point in time for any special occasion (which is absolutely true).  However, once I think all this through to the end, it turns out that I am scared that the money will disappear in some catastrophic event, that there will be a war and we will all be cold and hungry, and that my woolen coat (or whatever other item) will be very handy...  Seriously?!!  I think I have a problem - an irrational fear of becoming a bag lady!  Anyone else in the same boat?

I'm late to this discussion but, yes, I've struggled with these thoughts too. What helped me get over the worst of these fears was:

- work out why I have this fear (for me, it's a combination of being estranged from family = no family safety net, being brought up with a feeling of scarcity not abundance)

- realise that my city is DROWNING in secondhand stuff, to the point where the recycle shed at the rubbish tip gives away clothes for free, the op shops sometimes say no to donations because there is so much stuff and so much stuff is given away on freecycle, so I can always get stuff cheaply or for free if the worst happened

- this is the most important one for me - building connections and community. I learnt to be more giving and generous (feelings of abundance, not scarcity) to my friends, acquaintances and to the general community. And learnt to accept things from my friends and acquaintances (this is HARD and a work in progress but I am improving :)). And then I realised, if the worst happened, I do have people to lean on and people do care about me.

Not sure if any of that is relevant to you but it helped me a lot.

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« Reply #3193 on: February 02, 2016, 01:38:43 AM »
I suddenly feel like my house is almost the way I want it to be in terms of clutter and it's mostly maintenance now. Getting rid of two coffee tables has made my living room feel a lot more spacious and it's easier to vacuum.

What helped me get over the worst of these fears was:

- work out why I have this fear (for me, it's a combination of being estranged from family = no family safety net, being brought up with a feeling of scarcity not abundance)


Yes, I have the same reason for anxieties over money and security.

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« Reply #3194 on: February 02, 2016, 04:00:35 AM »

Strange thoughts swirling in my head as I was going through various items today....  For example, I have a long black wool coat that has been on the donation list for several years now, yet every time I pull it out, I end up putting it back into the closet.  Every time, the thought in my head is "what if I need it to wear it to a funeral?".  And some other things that I'm debating getting rid of make me think along the same lines, what if I need these some time in the future?  So I'm trying to think through these thoughts logically.  I'm telling myself that I have plenty of money to buy anything I need at any point in time for any special occasion (which is absolutely true).  However, once I think all this through to the end, it turns out that I am scared that the money will disappear in some catastrophic event, that there will be a war and we will all be cold and hungry, and that my woolen coat (or whatever other item) will be very handy...  Seriously?!!  I think I have a problem - an irrational fear of becoming a bag lady!  Anyone else in the same boat?

I'm late to this discussion but, yes, I've struggled with these thoughts too. What helped me get over the worst of these fears was:

- work out why I have this fear (for me, it's a combination of being estranged from family = no family safety net, being brought up with a feeling of scarcity not abundance)

- realise that my city is DROWNING in secondhand stuff, to the point where the recycle shed at the rubbish tip gives away clothes for free, the op shops sometimes say no to donations because there is so much stuff and so much stuff is given away on freecycle, so I can always get stuff cheaply or for free if the worst happened

- this is the most important one for me - building connections and community. I learnt to be more giving and generous (feelings of abundance, not scarcity) to my friends, acquaintances and to the general community. And learnt to accept things from my friends and acquaintances (this is HARD and a work in progress but I am improving :)). And then I realised, if the worst happened, I do have people to lean on and people do care about me.

Not sure if any of that is relevant to you but it helped me a lot.
These are such good points, Astatine.  Thank you.  I am not estranged from my family but I do live on a different continent from them, so effectively, I do not have a safety net here.  And since my divorce, I only have only myself to rely on.  Thank goodness my FIRE plan is to move back to the town where I grew up and where my family is - I'm sure it will help a lot!  And yes, growing up, we didn't have much.  We were never hungry or cold but we lived in a communist country where there wasn't much stuff overall.   

And yes, I think the world overall is drowning in second hand stuff!!!



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« Reply #3195 on: February 03, 2016, 01:35:00 PM »
Has anyone used http://www.cdrecyclingcenter.com/ for disc recycling?

I have old CDs, DVDs from computer software and I'm trying to find the best way to rid of it all. Also, does anyone where I can recycle electric toothbrushes? I received two for free but both broke a few months later.

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« Reply #3196 on: February 04, 2016, 04:36:29 AM »
Of my original list posted last week, the CDs still remain unsorted.  I have been so tired the last few days that I was in bed around 8 pm so have not done a thing around the house.  Hopefully I can get my act together and do some stuff this weekend.  So it's probably time for a new list :-)

- sort through the CDs
- bring the stuff I am donating to the donation center (I have 2 bags of stuff ready to go and some miscellaneous crap in addition to that)
- go through the shelves in the basement
- KonMarie shoes and clothes



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« Reply #3197 on: February 04, 2016, 05:46:16 AM »
I just read this on Rockstar Finance and thought it was relevant considering the discussion we were having about feeling anxious about having enough money or worrying about becoming homeless one day.

http://www.moneyaftergraduation.com/2016/01/04/why-you-should-practice-poverty/

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« Reply #3198 on: February 04, 2016, 07:16:44 AM »
I just read this on Rockstar Finance and thought it was relevant considering the discussion we were having about feeling anxious about having enough money or worrying about becoming homeless one day.

http://www.moneyaftergraduation.com/2016/01/04/why-you-should-practice-poverty/

Interesting but I'm not really sure that this experiment is really that helpful or realistic.  After all, I would still be sleeping in my very comfortable bed, living in my lovely house with all the mod cons, and not really worrying whether I have enough money to pay my next electric bill...  And as a somewhat mustachian individual, I only read library books anyway, I don't eat out or buy coffee at Starbucks and my food budget IS about $50 per week so rice and beans are my staple :-)



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« Reply #3199 on: February 04, 2016, 12:38:25 PM »
I just read this on Rockstar Finance and thought it was relevant considering the discussion we were having about feeling anxious about having enough money or worrying about becoming homeless one day.

http://www.moneyaftergraduation.com/2016/01/04/why-you-should-practice-poverty/

Interesting but I'm not really sure that this experiment is really that helpful or realistic.  After all, I would still be sleeping in my very comfortable bed, living in my lovely house with all the mod cons, and not really worrying whether I have enough money to pay my next electric bill...  And as a somewhat mustachian individual, I only read library books anyway, I don't eat out or buy coffee at Starbucks and my food budget IS about $50 per week so rice and beans are my staple :-)

Agreed. As a mustachian (not as much as some) I live this way most of the time- inexpensive groceries, usually eating what I hav before purchasing more at the lowest rates, almost never eat out, read library books everyday, do not shop for clothing or for fun etc.