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« Reply #2300 on: July 27, 2015, 07:47:04 AM »
I struggle with the "should keeps" as well.. the stuff that you use but frankly have far too much of. For me one of these was stationary so I gave half to my dad. I still have too much but it's no longer so silly. I also have too much plastic cutlery, must remember to offer to bring it (and paper plates and napkins) for our next "bring a plate" event, as it will save the hostess from buying them.

Popped a bunch of expired medication in my bag to drop off at the pharmacy tomorrow also. Making slow but steady progress. All the obvious "junk" went when I moved into this apartment a year ago and I have been declutttering pretty hard out for a month or so now.

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« Reply #2301 on: July 27, 2015, 07:53:02 AM »
I recently dropped a load of running shoes off at the goodwill. Maybe they aren't perfect anymore for putting miles on my injured knee, but they were all in great shape and could definitely be used by someone else.

I didn't realize how many old pairs of sneakers I had hanging around, when I really only need one at a time! I also dumped all my crappy flip flops and sandals and now just have one nice leather pair. I love the idea of keeping one nicer (albeit more expensive) item around than a bunch of crap!

I still have a long way to go with sweatshirts and some other stuff, but it's a start!

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« Reply #2302 on: July 27, 2015, 09:05:31 AM »
Another good weekend decluttering-wise. The bathroom feels amazing since I really purged all cosmetics and toiletries. I have got rid of a whole chest of drawers, and everything now fits on one shelving unit and in the airing cupboard.

I rearranged everything which was stored on some open shelving - handbags, fabric and sewing supplies for dressmaking, patterns, one large box of sentimental stuff. I didn't feel ready to actually tackle the sentimental stuff, but I had a quick scan through and found the following:
1) most of it is photos. That's easier to deal with than other stuff because I can keep the best one / throw out any that are blurry or duplicates etc.
2) In a box in the box were some tools (don't know why they were there!) which we have been looking for for ages.
3) Removing the box of tools gave me enough room to put all our wedding cards and a copy of the programme etc in this sentimental box, so I truly only have one sentimental box now.
4) I was hilariously cringe-worthy as a teenager.

And I did throw out a few things that I had no memory of. A cheesy 'You're such a special friend' book mark isn't so sentimental when you have no idea who gave it to you. Also, a stray 21st birthday card from 'Emma'? Could have been any number of people. Gone.

When everything was back on the (cleaned) shelves it took up far less room visually, is better organised, and definitely less dusty. Hopefully dust won't be a problem any more as everything is well used and it is easy to clean there now.

Pared down some the handbags again, and put some fabric aside to be sold. I also threw out some scraps which were maybe big enough to make something small, but wasn't the nicest fabric and would have taken a lot of thought and mental energy to come up with something to make.

Since all surfaces were clear, I decided to dust and hoover whilst I was at it. Took 5 mins at most.

I rearranged some kitchen cabinets so they are only one thing deep. Previously to get a large glasslock container (which we use instead of tupperwear) you had to reach over the small ones. There is a lot of 'wasted' space but it is so much easier to unload the dishwasher or grab what you need.

The space has come from eating up food supplies and not replacing. I am determined to carry less 'in stock'. We are wasting far less food as well.

And finally a note about getting partners on board... I've told you before I am doing this just with my stuff. 1400 things gone so far, and probably 50 of them have been offered up by my husband (I have not got rid of a single thing of his).

He commented on how we are getting along so well at the moment, and we agreed a lot of it was to do with having less stuff around and more space. 'His' areas of the house (dresser, bedside table etc) are looking incongruously stuffed with items but I am resisting the temptation to mention it, and still just focussing on my stuff. I can feel a change in the mood of the house though as we have both got a lot of me decluttering. So don't think you can't change anything if you're the only one into it.

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« Reply #2303 on: July 27, 2015, 10:31:51 AM »
The Kondo book finally came in at the library so I downloaded it. Forgive me, this lady sounds mildly nuts. Keep only things that spark joy? My spatula does not spark joy. Objectively, I need the spatula. This is kind of silly.

I thought that too on my first read through. Ditto my cheese grater doesn't make me super happy. But I definitely love being able to cook nice meals. I think sometimes you have to think one step beyond the item and think about what the item allows you to do for her method to make more sense. If the answer to that question is, "it allows me to do the same thing that my other spatula does" then you've identified something that is duplicative or excessive and can be donated or discarded. Thinking about things like this helped me get down to more of a 'one of each' situation for a lot of my kitchen and bathroom stuff.

She definitely comes off as a little nutty and extreme, but in a really lovely and organized way! I looked at some pictures of her before/after for clients and it is a beautiful thing.

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« Reply #2304 on: July 27, 2015, 11:04:35 AM »
The Kondo book finally came in at the library so I downloaded it. Forgive me, this lady sounds mildly nuts. Keep only things that spark joy? My spatula does not spark joy. Objectively, I need the spatula. This is kind of silly.

I think this is another reason to start with clothing as she recommends.  Sparking joy is more obvious there for most people I think.  (I used my can opener yesterday and it definitely sparked joy - I recently replaced an old one and this one is so much easier to use and it helped me make my lunches for this week which will save me lots of cash and will be healthy.)  Her specific mindfulness techniques might not work for you either, but something else might.  I'm pretty sure I've seen research that counting your blessings in some way or another does make you happier.

Objectively it is silly.  But so much of decluttering is about dealing with emotions.  Just like success with weight loss generally isn't objective, and ditto saving high % of your take-home pay.  It's like people who pay down a small debt even though it isn't the highest rate.  If you don't have a problem with clutter, then take the ideas that work for you and discard the rest.  In fact, at one point she says to discard the book if it isn't working for you and bringing ongoing joy.  :)
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« Reply #2305 on: July 27, 2015, 11:32:36 AM »
A week ago my husband and I left Pittsburgh with only what could fit in our Honda Fit (plus some sentimental stuff in a 5'x10' storage unit that's only 1/2 full).

We've been on the road 1 week and 1 day and have already got together a big box of stuff that we don't want to keep with us, to ship back to Pittsburgh.

Normally, traveling makes me want to buy things, but in this case I don't have anywhere to put it! So it's curbed those shopping desires.

So far, we are both 100% in love with having very little shit, and being able to pack up our entire lives in less than an hour.
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« Reply #2306 on: July 27, 2015, 05:35:31 PM »
Another good weekend decluttering-wise...
And finally a note about getting partners on board... I've told you before I am doing this just with my stuff. 1400 things gone so far, and probably 50 of them have been offered up by my husband (I have not got rid of a single thing of his).

He commented on how we are getting along so well at the moment, and we agreed a lot of it was to do with having less stuff around and more space. 'His' areas of the house (dresser, bedside table etc) are looking incongruously stuffed with items but I am resisting the temptation to mention it, and still just focussing on my stuff. I can feel a change in the mood of the house though as we have both got a lot of me decluttering. So don't think you can't change anything if you're the only one into it.

Great work!

Your husband has obviously noticed the changes in your home, so hopefully by leading by example he will voluntarily get on board with decluttering.

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« Reply #2307 on: July 27, 2015, 05:43:07 PM »
I love this thread. It's inspiring me to deal with my own "stuff." Thank you, everyone, for sharing your stories and journeys. I hope to share mine soon.

The idea that everything you have/use can be something you actually like--not just something you happen to have--is like a revelation. You mean all those coffee mugs we've accumulated, I don't HAVE to keep? I could actually have every cup in the house be *pleasing*?? 

One issue for me is visual clutter--we don't have places to put things away, so everything is out all the time, which I am starting to realize makes me feel stressed.

I've dealt with clothing a lot in the past, and I can manage that fairly well now--I still sometimes feel like I have a full closet and nothing to wear, but I'm able to take some rational steps when that happens.

A big thing for me right now is non-clothing stuff and things that I didn't ever choose, I just happened to end up with, and that are now tangled in a web of emotions. Furniture from my parents that I never really liked, but didn't want to part with because it was *theirs*, oh and it's good quality so I don't feel right about donating it, but it's in the way and not pleasing me. Other stuff from parents and even grandparents that got packed in a box and sent to me fairly randomly. I've been used as a repository for stuff no one else wanted. Kondo says in her book that younger sisters often end up with lots of stuff they don't like because they get so many hand-me-downs--that's definitely the case in my family, just with things instead of clothes.

We have a dining room with a lovely table and chairs (which we use every night), a sideboard or two, and THREE pieces of furniture we just ended up with, which are just standing around taking up space. One is a cart that we no longer need in the kitchen because we installed a cabinet. My husband wants to keep it there because he likes looking at it, even though it's useless where it is. He's just as bad as I am. WTF.


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« Reply #2308 on: July 27, 2015, 06:13:54 PM »
First day home. 2 more dresses, another t-shirt, and small decorative boxes out. Large box of tea's that I don't drink to my SO. Several other items trashed, including half used supplements that don't agree with me & expired eyelash conditioner, etc.

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« Reply #2309 on: July 27, 2015, 08:00:18 PM »
The idea that everything you have/use can be something you actually like--not just something you happen to have--is like a revelation. You mean all those coffee mugs we've accumulated, I don't HAVE to keep? I could actually have every cup in the house be *pleasing*?? 

It's eye-opening!

Clothes, homewares, everything... if I don't love it, I get rid of it/don't buy it in the first place.

I've been burned too many times in the past by buying the cheaper or not quite right option, then regretting it. It's worth taking the time and buying things once.

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« Reply #2310 on: July 27, 2015, 08:05:00 PM »
The idea that everything you have/use can be something you actually like--not just something you happen to have--is like a revelation. You mean all those coffee mugs we've accumulated, I don't HAVE to keep? I could actually have every cup in the house be *pleasing*?? 

It's eye-opening!

Clothes, homewares, everything... if I don't love it, I get rid of it/don't buy it in the first place.

I've been burned too many times in the past by buying the cheaper or not quite right option, then regretting it. It's worth taking the time and buying things once.

In the past, I would purchase or even just take castoffs of clothing that wasn't quite right- because I am so picky it's hard to find the right things. So much wasted money & space. Needless to say, no more. And it's all since been donated.

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« Reply #2311 on: July 27, 2015, 08:23:21 PM »
The idea that everything you have/use can be something you actually like--not just something you happen to have--is like a revelation. You mean all those coffee mugs we've accumulated, I don't HAVE to keep? I could actually have every cup in the house be *pleasing*?? 

It's eye-opening!

Clothes, homewares, everything... if I don't love it, I get rid of it/don't buy it in the first place.

I've been burned too many times in the past by buying the cheaper or not quite right option, then regretting it. It's worth taking the time and buying things once.

In the past, I would purchase or even just take castoffs of clothing that wasn't quite right- because I am so picky it's hard to find the right things. So much wasted money & space. Needless to say, no more. And it's all since been donated.

You know what I've found? I'm getting a clearer picture of what I like and why, especially when it comes to a capsule-ish wardrobe.

I feel like it took me till the of 28 to start learning how to dress myself. :/

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« Reply #2312 on: July 27, 2015, 08:48:44 PM »
The idea that everything you have/use can be something you actually like--not just something you happen to have--is like a revelation. You mean all those coffee mugs we've accumulated, I don't HAVE to keep? I could actually have every cup in the house be *pleasing*?? 

It's eye-opening!

Clothes, homewares, everything... if I don't love it, I get rid of it/don't buy it in the first place.

I've been burned too many times in the past by buying the cheaper or not quite right option, then regretting it. It's worth taking the time and buying things once.

In the past, I would purchase or even just take castoffs of clothing that wasn't quite right- because I am so picky it's hard to find the right things. So much wasted money & space. Needless to say, no more. And it's all since been donated.

You know what I've found? I'm getting a clearer picture of what I like and why, especially when it comes to a capsule-ish wardrobe.

I feel like it took me till the of 28 to start learning how to dress myself. :/

Don't feel too bad--I'm 52 and just starting to figure it out!

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« Reply #2313 on: July 27, 2015, 10:28:02 PM »
I have started a no repeat challenge. I am going to see how long I can go without repeating outfits and taking a selfie of the evidence each day. This mindfulness is making me super cheap excited about what I do have and curbing my desire to buy new clothes. Previously I would declutter out clothes I didn't like but keep adding new items because I got "bored". I am not aiming for a capsule wardrobe just a smaller wardrobe of things that get used and enjoyed so my selfie challenge is helping me with this. It's also helping me feel good about myself as I feel compelled to put an effort into my outfit to get a good selfie each day :-)

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« Reply #2314 on: July 28, 2015, 03:07:46 AM »
I've been used as a repository for stuff no one else wanted. Kondo says in her book that younger sisters often end up with lots of stuff they don't like because they get so many hand-me-downs--that's definitely the case in my family, just with things instead of clothes.


Kondo really helped me with this aspect of gifts - both being the recipient and the giver. As I've been decluttering, every so often I've thought, "I should give this to so and so!", and the book helped me realise, no, don't assuage my guilt by creating an obligation for someone else. Instead, I have thanked the item and given it to the charity shop - where someone can decide they want / need something and choose it for themselves.

As for gifts I've received, I asked myself "What was the giver's intention? To make me feel good? To fulfil an obligation?". If the intention was to make me feel good, and I don't like the item, I don't mind letting it go, because if that makes me feel better it is fulfilling their original intention. If their original intention was simply to fulfil a societal obligation (hostess gift, etc) I don't mind getting rid of it either, because it has fulfilled that purpose for them.

No-one was simply trying to give me an obligation - something I have to hang on to whether I like it or not, just so they could see I was using it. And actually, if they were, I'd have no compuction giving it away either because that's an unhealthy way to think of gifts you've given!

Since I've stopped shopping, and untangled my feelings about gifts allowing me to get rid of them, I am starting to believe Marie Kondo that I will only ever have to Tidy Up once! (That said, I've been at it for 7 months...)

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« Reply #2315 on: July 28, 2015, 01:27:25 PM »
I'm very proud of myself here. There is nothing at my parents house that should be in mine.
Way to go!
There's lots of stuff at my parents house that doesn't fit in my current apartment, but even if I had a bigger house, I still wouldn't want it.

Better get rid of it now, or I'll have to sort it all out when my parents die or move to a nursing home.

Finally got rid of a nice chunk of my stuff at my parents' house today.
Lots more to do though...

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« Reply #2316 on: July 28, 2015, 02:55:07 PM »
Cleared out an Entropy Pile* of paperwork.  Pretty excited as this one has been around collecting items for a while.

Looked for a CD (we rarely play them) and it wasn't in the case.  Discovered DH has a lot of his CDs still in his 200 disk player.  Moving with the CDs inside the device still pissed it off.  I was excited we'd get rid of a piece of equipment we haven't used in over 1.5 years, but he did manage to get it working again after opening it up to extract the stuck CDs.  Reorganized most of the CDs.  Didn't get rid of any, but it's loads better even if only organized and not decluttered.

*Coined by a coworker an Entropy Pile refers to the pile of stuff that just grows and collects stuff as time passes.

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« Reply #2317 on: July 28, 2015, 03:27:06 PM »
Such inspiring progress in the last week!  Reading what you are up to helps keep me motivated.

Yesterday I got in the car with a bunch of stuff to be donated and I thought "Gosh! I used to throw money around!  What a waste!"

I wasn't feeling like attacking the paper yesterday so I went from room to room checking for things on the floor and putting things away.  I also started on the books with Marie Kondo urging me on.  We had so many books we had not read at all or even peeked at for more than a nano second.  I have let go of a lot of books this week.

 Today someone came by and said that our house is looking fantastically clear (and that is with one room full of paper crapola yet to be dealt with).  I love the feedback that the shifts are obvious to others and not just to us.

I am looking with a more discerning eye and wanting more and more clear surfaces and empty floor showing.  No more framed pictures on the floor waiting to be hung, no more accumulation of things just out of sight behind the bookcase or on the other side of a bed.  No more things falling to the closet floor and staying there for months.

Everything that is broken is going into the basement to be pondered all at once. 

The sentimental paper stacks are haunting me.  I think I may have to sort through all of it and then go through it which is double the work I suppose.  In a way though it is like the Konmari method of categorising clothing by tops, pants, dresses, etc before dealing with them.  Right now I am avoiding going into that room.  I am thinking photos in one pile, things from other people (old letters, cards etc) in another, old school papers in another, poetry I wrote in my twenties in another pile, class notes from seminars ( I know), journals...

Can I trust technology enough to donate the cds I have knowing that their contents are safe on my computer and back up hard drive?  What do you all do?






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« Reply #2318 on: July 28, 2015, 10:16:30 PM »
I kept my cds because they are one of the few things that is very sentimental to me. I am a punk so I met most of my current friends at the shows where I bought the cds and the lyrics have guided me through pivotal points in my life. I got rid of any I didn't like or any "burnt" cds and boxed the rest up on a trunk which doubles as my bedside table. It was the right choice for me. I still listen to all this music however I use the iPod as the playing device for ease of use. I also have some vynyl and this is displayed in my lounge. 

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« Reply #2319 on: July 28, 2015, 10:19:31 PM »
I think you can rely on digital though. Just make sure you have a back up hardrive with copies. These are very small (the size of a paperback) and about $60 and would enable you to get rid of a lot of clutter if the cds themselves are not sentimental but merely functional.

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« Reply #2320 on: July 28, 2015, 10:21:05 PM »
I added a dress to the charity bag today. As part of the selfie challenge I am wearing some clothes I don't wear often as soon as I put it on I knew why... Looks great but so uncomfortable!!!

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« Reply #2321 on: July 29, 2015, 05:24:39 AM »
Melody, Thanks for the your thoughts on CDs and digital.  I am tempted to toss the whole lot.

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« Reply #2322 on: July 29, 2015, 05:34:12 AM »
Great progress, wintersun! In addition to saving on the hard drive, I store my music on cloud drives.

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« Reply #2323 on: July 29, 2015, 07:36:53 AM »
I did a little bit of decluttering last night. Went to clear out my desk and found very little to get rid of though I had managed to keep the appraisal for when we bought our old house in 2008. Not sure why I held onto that for 7 years but it's in the recycling now. Went through my closet and mostly reorganized for a nicer look but also got rid of 5 pairs of shoes between DH and I, leaving 4 for me and 3 for him. Also went through old photographs and threw away about half of them. I could get rid of all of them since the ones I want to keep are scanned and backed up, but DH isn't there yet and since they fit into my "sentimental box" it wouldn't save any space anyway

My last big challenge will be the office. I think that will have to be on the back burner until early September though since we'll be bringing the last of the stuff from the old house in late August and taking a large musical instrument back to my mom over Labor Day weekend. Even broken down it takes up 1/4 of the office closet and book/statues waiting for my bookshelf at the old house takes up another 1/3 or so. I think most of my books will be donated to a small new library but we'll see how I feel when we get my bookshelf set up.
Then my hurdle in there will be figuring out DH's desk....It's his paint station for Warhammer mini's and has stuff everywhere and a small, shitty, plastic shelf thing beside it holding more random stuff. It's crowded in by the tv stand and the shitty shelf and it looks messy and horrible but I need to figure out a solution that looks better but still works for him. Honestly my solution would be to get rid of Warhammer stuff since he never plays (has no one to play with), which would clear out almost 1/2 of the remaining stuff in that closet too, but that won't fly...yet

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« Reply #2324 on: July 29, 2015, 10:50:19 AM »
Okay, I read the Kondo book and then Kondoed our dresser. I blame all of you.

Ha it got to you too! Her method works wonders tho doesn't it:)

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« Reply #2325 on: July 29, 2015, 01:48:49 PM »
I'm throwing down the gauntlet for myself here.  I really want to work on decluttering our apartment.  Here are some of my goals:

1. Go through winter clothing and reduce it to two storage tubs (donate or throw out the rest)
2. Post clothing items I have been meaning to sell online
3. Organize all papers on computer desk (throw out/shred anything unneeded)

This is just a start for me.  My goal is to get rid of enough "stuff" to allow us to find a slightly smaller and cheaper apartment when our lease is up at the end of April.

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« Reply #2326 on: July 29, 2015, 01:51:04 PM »
HOLY CRAP you guys!! Did you know that H&M takes ALL textiles?!? Including clothes, socks, sheets and even flip-flops?? If you want to double check anything the customer service # is 855-466-7467. (Like, I asked about pillows and they said they don't take the stuffing.) They do this at EVERY LOCATION! Sorry for all of the yelling, this is just completely revolutionizing my guilt factor. They might not be the only ones either; its in conjunction with something called I:CO which also has affiliate links for Levi, Puma and some other stores.
I HAD to share. Alright, off to the mall - and not to buy anything either!

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« Reply #2327 on: July 29, 2015, 02:27:37 PM »
I added a dress to the charity bag today. As part of the selfie challenge I am wearing some clothes I don't wear often as soon as I put it on I knew why... Looks great but so uncomfortable!!!

This is a great idea for me too. I don't have very many clothes compared to many, but there are still lots that I never wear. I should wear something new each day and remember why! Then donate!

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« Reply #2328 on: July 29, 2015, 02:41:11 PM »
HOLY CRAP you guys!! Did you know that H&M takes ALL textiles?!? Including clothes, socks, sheets and even flip-flops?? If you want to double check anything the customer service # is 855-466-7467. (Like, I asked about pillows and they said they don't take the stuffing.) They do this at EVERY LOCATION! Sorry for all of the yelling, this is just completely revolutionizing my guilt factor. They might not be the only ones either; its in conjunction with something called I:CO which also has affiliate links for Levi, Puma and some other stores.
I HAD to share. Alright, off to the mall - and not to buy anything either!

Doesn't goodwill do that too? I've read before that they take all textiles (even if damaged, etc) and they sort them according to their condition for recycling or for sale at their stores. Although maybe there are more H&M stores closer to you and it's more convenient?

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« Reply #2329 on: July 29, 2015, 03:44:10 PM »
Okay, I read the Kondo book and then Kondoed our dresser. I blame all of you.

Do you love that it looks like a box of jelly beans now? I am ridiculously gleeful every time I open a drawer, post KonMari.  :-D

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« Reply #2330 on: July 29, 2015, 03:50:50 PM »
I spent a couple quality hours decluttering the garage today and now I have a carful of donations and recycling to drop off. There is much more to do...I think I just need to attack it Kondo style and stop with the baby steps! My only holdback is that we have rental houses and will be putting a couple on the market in the spring. So here's my goal: if I don't use up the supplies during the prep of those two houses, they will be gotten rid of!

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« Reply #2331 on: July 29, 2015, 04:50:13 PM »
More stuff to be donated today- an illustration I don't like (was a gift ), hangers (because my wardrobe keeps getting smaller!), fancy silk rose ribbon, a couple charms, quilting ruler, skirt I made 16 years ago, stack of random tarot cards , all the elastic and velco in sewing box, lid to cooking pot I don't hav anymore. There's always more! 

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« Reply #2332 on: July 30, 2015, 05:29:50 AM »
So itís about a month since I read and acted on the Kondo book, I thought people might enjoy an update. If not, just scroll ahead, this might be long!

The biggest revelation is that I am STILL folding all of my (non-hanging) clothes including underwear! She said to give it a try, and I didÖ and I really like it. I donít even ball socks anymore - they take up less space folded and I do feel itís better for the elastic. I never thought I would be this person, but I actually enjoy putting things away neatly now!

I thought I would give up on the underwear, and also start just throwing my loungewear into its dedicated drawer. But I havenít. Each night, I take off what I was wearing, and fold / roll it and put it away. This is huge. I used to just step out of it and leave it on the floor. About two years ago I cleared out a whole drawer just for loungewear, and got in the habit of just throwing it in there, all balled up. I hardly recognise myself. 

I cleared out so much stuff from the bottom of my hanging area I can see the carpet, and I hadnít realised how bad it looked with stuff crammed under there. Now the two boxes left, despite being attractive, are annoying me, I want to see the carpet! Must find a home for them. Iíve also cut down my clothes a lot, so having ample hanging space is really nice - easier to get stuff out and put it away without wrinkling.

We had unseasonably cold weather on Monday, so I pulled down my one remaining bag of Ďoff-seasoní clothes. Turns out there were only 6 items in there, so I have now incorporated them into my hanging and folding space. I never would have thought I could have got ALL my clothes in - I used to pack away 4 or 5 large bags each season. Glad to never have to mess with that changeover again.

As for people saying that they felt they had more to wear after clearing out - I definitely donít feel that way. There was stuff I didnít like but was wearing for variety, and now itís gone I feel like I am repeating outfits a lot, and need some new things for work. But I am enjoying my clothes more, and feel like the trade-off is worth it.

A few things that struck me about the book that I didnít like and havenít tried: I donít empty my handbag each day and put it away. It has a Ďplaceí where i put it when I get home, and I keep it clear of receipts and things, and empty it fully regularly, but moving things in and out each evening and morning when the contents is always the same seemed silly. Did anyone try this?

I also donít nest handbags by occasion, as she suggests. To me, this goes against most of her other advice, which is not to hide things away where you forget about them. I have a shelf where all my bags live out in the open so I can see them. Now that Iíve weeded a few out itís much more attractive.

Iím glad I bought the book. I thought I was doing well before (about 1000 things out of the house since January IIRCC) but I was losing steam and finding it harder and harder to find things to get rid of. Iím now up to 1400, so itís definitely been a huge boost to decluttering, and thatís even more impressive results when you consider Iíd got rid of all the easy stuff before reading the book. Thanks Marie!

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« Reply #2333 on: July 30, 2015, 11:40:26 AM »
I went thru the top (papers) and bottom:(mementos) drawers and tossed about  a dozen each  papers and photographs.

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« Reply #2334 on: July 30, 2015, 08:28:04 PM »
Doesn't goodwill do that too? I've read before that they take all textiles (even if damaged, etc) and they sort them according to their condition for recycling or for sale at their stores.
How did I not know this?? I'm going to check with my Salvation Army. I live close to everything so it's not so much the driving distance as much as will it help a charity or not. Thanks for the tip!

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« Reply #2335 on: July 31, 2015, 01:12:43 AM »
I've really been struggling lately. I've recently moved, and I got rid of a lot of things, and most everything else was boxed and bagged up. I've been at my new place for a month and most of it still is except for things I've pulled out. My room has a futon and is stacked with all the boxes and bags and now all the stuff I've pulled out has no where to go so it's a real mess.

I've been wanting to de-clutter even more to get rid of stuff (especially since I'm moving again) but every time I start, there's just very little room to pull things out so I just mentally shut down and never started.

This is what helped: Deciding to tackle the clothes first. I decided to use an infographic I had pinned on pinterest as my guide for a capsule wardrobe. I don't usually like other people's formulas (one dress, three skirts, etc) but it's helping me to focus. If I decide my wardrobe should have two dresses and one skirt later, I'll do that.

Before I would look at the clothes and think of how to best convince myself to get rid of it. Now I find it's been much easier for me to process clothes thinking about what I want to keep in the capsule vs what I want to get rid of. I yanked everything out of everywhere I could find and started going through it all. I've filled up some of the categories, but in order to cull things quickly, I'm not making final decisions yet. So in one part of my closet I have the recommended amounts of clothes, but at the other end, I'm hanging up what I call "contenders" to possibly replace the first things I've picked. Once I've gotten rid of the fluff and excess, I'll take a closer look at what works the most with other items and gives me the most flexibility.

I've also decided not to make final decisions on accessories and jewelry and shoes until the other items are decided, so I've put them to the side.

Here's a hangup I have that I'm hoping some of you can help me with:

What about all my camisoles/shapewear?

I love me some tummy-tucking, lump-smoothing shapewear, although I've had trouble finding ones that work with most outfits that don't have some kind of problem (like rolling up at the ends, or being to difficult to get on/off or not fitting right, or being to painful to deal with etc), so I have lots around. How much shapewear do you allow?

I also have a lot of camisoles, mostly for layering and modesty because I hate having my cleavage showing or worrying about shirts opening up when bending over, not to mention showing my underwear on the back end. I just hate having to worry about adjusting my clothes if I'm living my life outside of standing up straight and sitting at a desk. But I have way too many and I don't really want them as part of my capsule wardrobe. I'm thinking that what I should do is just start having stricter standards for necklines and shirt lengths so camisoles aren't necessary, but I still worry that I won't be able to have a working wardrobe without any. Anyone deal with this?

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« Reply #2336 on: July 31, 2015, 03:27:06 AM »

As for people saying that they felt they had more to wear after clearing out - I definitely donít feel that way. There was stuff I didnít like but was wearing for variety, and now itís gone I feel like I am repeating outfits a lot, and need some new things for work. But I am enjoying my clothes more, and feel like the trade-off is worth it.


I've been wondering about this, too. My hang-up is that it is hard for me to find clothes that fit- I am a tall woman with a very obscure shoe size. So I've got a lot of clothes that fit if I wear them a certain way (example: shirt too short unless worn with certain pants, pants too low of rise unless worn with certain shirt). If I only kept things that fit perfectly, I'd have 2 pairs of pants and 5 shirts. That's office clothes and leisure clothes. Don't get me started on the shoes.

I buy most of my clothes online from specialty retailers in the US. I live in Europe and go back to the US once a year, so that one trip is when I buy what I need for the next year. I haven't found anywhere to buy shoes here (try finding 12 narrow!) and yes, I know about Long Tall Sally. Their shoes are regular or wide.  Really helps in controlling my spending, but also makes me reluctant to get rid of things because I can't easily replace them.

Anyone else in a similar situation?

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« Reply #2337 on: July 31, 2015, 05:33:53 AM »
Here's a hangup I have that I'm hoping some of you can help me with:

What about all my camisoles/shapewear?

I love me some tummy-tucking, lump-smoothing shapewear, although I've had trouble finding ones that work with most outfits that don't have some kind of problem (like rolling up at the ends, or being to difficult to get on/off or not fitting right, or being to painful to deal with etc), so I have lots around. How much shapewear do you allow?

I also have a lot of camisoles, mostly for layering and modesty because I hate having my cleavage showing or worrying about shirts opening up when bending over, not to mention showing my underwear on the back end. I just hate having to worry about adjusting my clothes if I'm living my life outside of standing up straight and sitting at a desk. But I have way too many and I don't really want them as part of my capsule wardrobe. I'm thinking that what I should do is just start having stricter standards for necklines and shirt lengths so camisoles aren't necessary, but I still worry that I won't be able to have a working wardrobe without any. Anyone deal with this?
Here's my opinion on this.

The shapewear.  Try on every piece, and if there's something wrong with how it fits, get rid of it.  I think properly fitting shapewear can be great in a warddrobe, but poorly fitting will just make you frustrated.

Camisoles.  I like them personally.  Even without gapping, layering can be a good look in many outfits.  You'll need to cast a critical eye on what you have and decide if you really need and want the ones you have.  Maybe in the future though you can select new tops with an eye for ones that don't gap anywhere and stay put when you bend over.  But if that's not the sort of top you want, I don't see anything wrong with having maybe 5 camisoles.  5 will take you through a week, more if you wear more than once.

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« Reply #2338 on: July 31, 2015, 08:34:49 AM »
Nice update, advicist! I've also been folding my clothes and putting them away, as opposed to hanging them over the back of a chair (gasp!). With all the space in my drawers, it's super easy.

I gave away all of my extra yarn and knitting supplies, but I've slowed down on decluttering. Need to get back to it and finish.

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« Reply #2339 on: July 31, 2015, 08:56:16 AM »
I've really been struggling lately. I've recently moved, and I got rid of a lot of things, and most everything else was boxed and bagged up. I've been at my new place for a month and most of it still is except for things I've pulled out. My room has a futon and is stacked with all the boxes and bags and now all the stuff I've pulled out has no where to go so it's a real mess.

I've been wanting to de-clutter even more to get rid of stuff (especially since I'm moving again) but every time I start, there's just very little room to pull things out so I just mentally shut down and never started.

This is what helped: Deciding to tackle the clothes first. I decided to use an infographic I had pinned on pinterest as my guide for a capsule wardrobe. I don't usually like other people's formulas (one dress, three skirts, etc) but it's helping me to focus. If I decide my wardrobe should have two dresses and one skirt later, I'll do that.

Before I would look at the clothes and think of how to best convince myself to get rid of it. Now I find it's been much easier for me to process clothes thinking about what I want to keep in the capsule vs what I want to get rid of. I yanked everything out of everywhere I could find and started going through it all. I've filled up some of the categories, but in order to cull things quickly, I'm not making final decisions yet. So in one part of my closet I have the recommended amounts of clothes, but at the other end, I'm hanging up what I call "contenders" to possibly replace the first things I've picked. Once I've gotten rid of the fluff and excess, I'll take a closer look at what works the most with other items and gives me the most flexibility.

I've also decided not to make final decisions on accessories and jewelry and shoes until the other items are decided, so I've put them to the side.

Here's a hangup I have that I'm hoping some of you can help me with:

What about all my camisoles/shapewear?

I love me some tummy-tucking, lump-smoothing shapewear, although I've had trouble finding ones that work with most outfits that don't have some kind of problem (like rolling up at the ends, or being to difficult to get on/off or not fitting right, or being to painful to deal with etc), so I have lots around. How much shapewear do you allow?

I also have a lot of camisoles, mostly for layering and modesty because I hate having my cleavage showing or worrying about shirts opening up when bending over, not to mention showing my underwear on the back end. I just hate having to worry about adjusting my clothes if I'm living my life outside of standing up straight and sitting at a desk. But I have way too many and I don't really want them as part of my capsule wardrobe. I'm thinking that what I should do is just start having stricter standards for necklines and shirt lengths so camisoles aren't necessary, but I still worry that I won't be able to have a working wardrobe without any. Anyone deal with this?

Yeah, get rid of the shapeware that doesn't work. It's not useful, so why keep it?

About the stuff in boxes - you're getting by without it. When you do unpack it, that means there's a pretty good chance that you don't actually need that stuff. If you start unpacking with a list (mental or otherwise) of things that you've been looking for, keep those items and seriously consider disposing of other items in the box.

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« Reply #2340 on: July 31, 2015, 12:31:56 PM »
Great update, theadvicist! 

I am more and more motivated by my FIRE plan and the thought of moving across the Atlantic in a couple of years (and downsizing to 650 square feet).  I brought 4 items to the consignment store today since I remembered that they take home stuff: two decorative bowls, one glass salad bowl and a glass jug.  All large and heavy and not practical to move.  I was thinking about listing them on Craigslist but I think I have a much better chance of selling them through consignment.

Trying to sell a few other items through Craigslist and Facebook tag sale group but with no luck :-( 

Also trying to resist temptation to buy new clothes - that is definitely my biggest weakness...  I also need to gather the clothing I put aside for consignment and bring it in.  It's fall/winter stuff that doesn't fit any more.  I set it all aside in the spring but the store only took summer items then, so I will bring it in in the next couple of weeks.  Time to do another sweep through the closet, I think.



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« Reply #2341 on: July 31, 2015, 05:32:43 PM »
I've really been struggling lately. I've recently moved, and I got rid of a lot of things, and most everything else was boxed and bagged up. I've been at my new place for a month and most of it still is except for things I've pulled out. My room has a futon and is stacked with all the boxes and bags and now all the stuff I've pulled out has no where to go so it's a real mess.

I've been wanting to de-clutter even more to get rid of stuff (especially since I'm moving again) but every time I start, there's just very little room to pull things out so I just mentally shut down and never started.

This is what helped: Deciding to tackle the clothes first. I decided to use an infographic I had pinned on pinterest as my guide for a capsule wardrobe. I don't usually like other people's formulas (one dress, three skirts, etc) but it's helping me to focus. If I decide my wardrobe should have two dresses and one skirt later, I'll do that.

Before I would look at the clothes and think of how to best convince myself to get rid of it. Now I find it's been much easier for me to process clothes thinking about what I want to keep in the capsule vs what I want to get rid of. I yanked everything out of everywhere I could find and started going through it all. I've filled up some of the categories, but in order to cull things quickly, I'm not making final decisions yet. So in one part of my closet I have the recommended amounts of clothes, but at the other end, I'm hanging up what I call "contenders" to possibly replace the first things I've picked. Once I've gotten rid of the fluff and excess, I'll take a closer look at what works the most with other items and gives me the most flexibility.

I've also decided not to make final decisions on accessories and jewelry and shoes until the other items are decided, so I've put them to the side.

Here's a hangup I have that I'm hoping some of you can help me with:

What about all my camisoles/shapewear?

I love me some tummy-tucking, lump-smoothing shapewear, although I've had trouble finding ones that work with most outfits that don't have some kind of problem (like rolling up at the ends, or being to difficult to get on/off or not fitting right, or being to painful to deal with etc), so I have lots around. How much shapewear do you allow?

I also have a lot of camisoles, mostly for layering and modesty because I hate having my cleavage showing or worrying about shirts opening up when bending over, not to mention showing my underwear on the back end. I just hate having to worry about adjusting my clothes if I'm living my life outside of standing up straight and sitting at a desk. But I have way too many and I don't really want them as part of my capsule wardrobe. I'm thinking that what I should do is just start having stricter standards for necklines and shirt lengths so camisoles aren't necessary, but I still worry that I won't be able to have a working wardrobe without any. Anyone deal with this?

I recommend Marie Kondos book . her method is incredibly helpful for many.

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« Reply #2342 on: July 31, 2015, 07:09:33 PM »
Got rid of four more dresses today. Two were too small and one too big. Despite being more or less a constant clothing size it seems my clothes can't keep up with changes in body shape. One had a high neckline which tugged uncomfortably. I have no idea why I bought it I hate anything restrictive around my neck :-( I have a few more maybes to go through in my wardrobe (I am slow at this, I only want to consider a few items at a time). My wardrobe is looking much more organised and less stuffed :-)

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« Reply #2343 on: July 31, 2015, 07:23:48 PM »
I love me some tummy-tucking, lump-smoothing shapewear, although I've had trouble finding ones that work with most outfits that don't have some kind of problem (like rolling up at the ends, or being to difficult to get on/off or not fitting right, or being to painful to deal with etc), so I have lots around. How much shapewear do you allow?

I also have a lot of camisoles, mostly for layering and modesty because I hate having my cleavage showing or worrying about shirts opening up when bending over, not to mention showing my underwear on the back end.

Get rid of shapewear that doesn't work for you.  Rolling & pain would be a flag to me that you may want to consider going one size up if that is possible (I see you're tall).  For camisoles, I'd probably set a target number to have - probably 8 (7 to wear, one to wear when washing) and then be ruthless.

To help you with the capsule wardrobe, since you don't have much space to bring it all out, I'd suggest an excel spreadsheet - tops across the top, bottoms along the side.  Put an X or colour in the combinations that work and you like.  Start with the work pieces.  Then try on the contenders for your capsule wardrobe.  That may help you be more comfortable around making final decisions instead of putting it off until you've gotten rid of the "fluff".  Being sure about identifying the "fluff" can be difficult when you haven't figured out your core capsule.
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« Reply #2344 on: July 31, 2015, 11:36:54 PM »
I am down to about 160 items excluding gym wear and sleep wear and underwear (and accessories). This feels big enough to cover every conceivable situation and allow for heaps of variety but small enough that it all gets regular use over the course of a year. I suspect it could go smaller but I am not pushing for a for a capsule wardrobe, I like and wear all 160 so why not let natural attrition gradually do the work for me.it all fits in my one Ikea flat pack wardrobe. Obviously as I pull out things that don't work I will get rid of them but I think I have done nearly all my decluttering. Only a few more maybes to consider.

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« Reply #2345 on: August 02, 2015, 09:04:56 AM »
Man. I'm making progress but very slowly.

Sometimes, I feel like my mind has this crystal clear mentality when I go through things. I realize I don't need or want them, and will be unlikely to need it in the future. The clarity is tangible and I can throw away/donate things with little or no detachment that I've previously agonized over.

However, it doesn't last long, and by the end of a clearing session I'll be making much less progress. "I know this is just one black sock and I've folded and put away 20 other pairs, but I'm SURE I'll find another one while I'm cleaning up..."

It's ok, I guess, because it just means I need to keep going and keep making progress. I kind of wish I could have a professional like Peter Walsh or Marie Kondo help me out. I have both of their books on audible. I've listened to Kondo's three different times, and am going through Walsh's now. While listening to these books can be motivating, it's not the same as someone being right there looking at YOUR stuff with you and pushing you as you begin to falter at the tough times.

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« Reply #2346 on: August 02, 2015, 09:26:27 AM »
Cleaning up today. Aside from the usual tidying and washing, I plan to get much more stuff out of the house to either give away to a charity or toss in the recycle bin.

As much as I've cleaned through cabinets and closets and drawers, it amazes me how much stuff there still is. Miles to go!

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« Reply #2347 on: August 02, 2015, 09:33:36 AM »
This thread has been an inspiration!   I like to think I am organized, just because everything usually has a place.  Problem is, there is too much "everything".   I am working on editing my clothes (and husband's too), and so far have 3 bags for donation.  The closets are already looking better, and I'm not done yet.   I tried the Kondo method, and love how the dresser drawers look.  Hubby hasn't looked in his yet - I'm waiting for the WTF?  : )

I have been avoiding cleaning up the garage - over the winter, things just got tossed out there because it was so freaking cold. (-30C).  Now it's +30C with 80% humidity, and I am still making excuses because it's too hot.   I have resolved to throw out/sort/put away properly at least one thing every time I go in the garage.  I won't get hot and sweaty, and by the time it cools down and I can really clean up out there comfortably, there will be less to clean.

I had never heard of Marie Kondo - thanks to everyone for posting and getting me to get off my butt and clean up.

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« Reply #2348 on: August 02, 2015, 09:37:41 AM »
Man. I'm making progress but very slowly.

Sometimes, I feel like my mind has this crystal clear mentality when I go through things. I realize I don't need or want them, and will be unlikely to need it in the future. The clarity is tangible and I can throw away/donate things with little or no detachment that I've previously agonized over.

However, it doesn't last long, and by the end of a clearing session I'll be making much less progress. "I know this is just one black sock and I've folded and put away 20 other pairs, but I'm SURE I'll find another one while I'm cleaning up..."

It's ok, I guess, because it just means I need to keep going and keep making progress. I kind of wish I could have a professional like Peter Walsh or Marie Kondo help me out. I have both of their books on audible. I've listened to Kondo's three different times, and am going through Walsh's now. While listening to these books can be motivating, it's not the same as someone being right there looking at YOUR stuff with you and pushing you as you begin to falter at the tough times.

I don't know where u live, but I'm in NorCal USA and I do organizing & decluttering as a side hustle.
I another note, I think you can do it, it'll get easier to discern over time. And after the major purge of everything, you will see more later , all the time.
Also, it sounds like u are familiar with Marie Kondos method. But hav u done a thourogh and go round with it? If not, I and countless others hav had excellent progress with her method.
Good luck!
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« Reply #2349 on: August 02, 2015, 09:44:49 AM »
I am doing several other gauntlets & one is to read through my bookshelf. This is really helping to lighten the book load:) . I read through several, but also donated some straight away because they had lost their lure.
Must mention, I did previously go through my books with the konmarie method and decreased by About 50%.