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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #1800 on: May 31, 2015, 12:47:37 PM »
Went through my costume jewelry and got ride of about 80% of it. Gave one of the empty organizer boxes to my boyfriend for fishing lures. Packed up two organizer boxes with the jewelry I am giving. Away and set it aside for the nanny to take what she wants.

How I wish I had never bought this stuff!

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« Reply #1801 on: May 31, 2015, 01:44:01 PM »
Not much time today, but I went through our winter hats and scarves.  It was a quick pass and I probably need at least one more but I filled 2 plastic grocery bags plus threw away a few single gloves. 

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« Reply #1802 on: May 31, 2015, 07:41:23 PM »
I also kept an old organic toothpaste, but I moved it to cleaning supplies and I'm going to try it on my headlights of my car as suggested on the internet.


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Thanks, I am so trying this!  I was looking at my truck headlights today and they're really cloudy.

Other than listing some books on Amazon, I got almost nothing done this weekend.  Still feeling like there is a long way to go, though I happened to be in the living/dining room of an acquaintance a few days ago and with their "normal" amount of stuff, my place seemed almost Spartan in comparison.

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« Reply #1803 on: May 31, 2015, 08:07:32 PM »
I donated 99 books today. (Maybe I should have looked around for one more.) That takes care of mine - now I have to work on DH.

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« Reply #1804 on: June 01, 2015, 03:39:51 AM »
Got rid of a bottle of nailpolish which was going thick and lumpy, even after I tried to thin it. And put another one in a colour I don't like aside to give to my friend who loves all my cast-off cosmetics.

Earmarked a few pieces of fabric for summery patterns, though it's still cold here in the UK so I'm not feeling much motivation to make hot weather clothes. I'm slowly finishing up things in the bathroom and kitchen and loving the empty space left behind (though I have to keep reminding myself not to use too much of something just to get rid of it!).

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« Reply #1805 on: June 01, 2015, 05:10:58 AM »
Sold some curtain fabric that I had for four years. I was never going to make the curtains, as the ones we have are perfectly good, and I just do not care about home decoration. The fabric had been a gift, but I"m glad to be rid of it. The man who purchased it said his wife was going to be so happy. I also donated an entire storage tub of fabric plus the storage bin. Most of that fabric had been gifted to me as well. Gave some nice sewing patterns to a friend and to the library. I'm next on the list for the Kondo book. Looking forward to more progress.

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« Reply #1806 on: June 01, 2015, 06:14:08 AM »
This post has been inspiring. We already went through our closet and bookshelf. So far we packed up three boxes and two bags.
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« Reply #1807 on: June 01, 2015, 07:46:49 AM »
The Kondo book is SO great - so inspiring, and the author is so empathetic about our attachment to our STUFF.

We're starting with clothes, and we've pulled out 11 kitchen-size trash bags to donate. I had already come to the realization that if I was going to try to sell stuff, it would never leave my house, so we are sending it all off to Green Drop and calling it done.

Our closet has probably half the clothes it did two weeks ago. I also cleaned out a little dresser of socks, undies, PJs, et cetera. Now I know exactly what I have and where it is!

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« Reply #1808 on: June 01, 2015, 08:52:54 AM »
Well, this weekend was quite slow going, but I managed to: 1) give away a tube of nice lip gloss and three bottles of shampoo to my mom, and 2) donate two pairs of knee-high tights and a spatula.

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« Reply #1809 on: June 01, 2015, 09:05:53 AM »
I had a clothing swap this weekend which motivated me to go through my closet again. Got rid of about 40 more items which bumped me over my goal for this year of 365 items. I'm going to try to double it, since the year is not even half over. I may need to focus a little harder though, now that the easy stuff is already out the door.

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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #1810 on: June 01, 2015, 10:01:41 AM »
I had a clothing swap this weekend which motivated me to go through my closet again. Got rid of about 40 more items which bumped me over my goal for this year of 365 items. I'm going to try to double it, since the year is not even half over. I may need to focus a little harder though, now that the easy stuff is already out the door.

I had a clothing swap this weekend too! Go us :)

It felt so good to get rid of my giant ikea bag of clothes.

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« Reply #1811 on: June 01, 2015, 10:17:48 AM »
Wife and I went through the "possibly mend" pile of kids' clothes yesterday. Chunked most of it. Anything worthy of Goodwill got bagged, and put with other bags waiting to get donated.

We've found a place that takes clothes donations in a drop-off bin, i.e. no long trips to Goodwill! I can chunk the stuff on the way to work now. I have decided to just chunk anything we can't immediately donate and/or sell.

I cleaned out my closet (mostly organized it, but the floor is clear now) and wife is decluttering the girls' room this morning. I'm getting the itch to organize my workshop too, but that's a long-term undertaking.

Slow. Very slow. But making progress.
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« Reply #1812 on: June 01, 2015, 05:17:16 PM »
Wife and I went through the "possibly mend" pile of kids' clothes yesterday. Chunked most of it. Anything worthy of Goodwill got bagged, and put with other bags waiting to get donated.

We've found a place that takes clothes donations in a drop-off bin, i.e. no long trips to Goodwill! I can chunk the stuff on the way to work now. I have decided to just chunk anything we can't immediately donate and/or sell.

I cleaned out my closet (mostly organized it, but the floor is clear now) and wife is decluttering the girls' room this morning. I'm getting the itch to organize my workshop too, but that's a long-term undertaking.

Slow. Very slow. But making progress.

I hate to be a downer, but I'd recommend checking out the company associated with the bin;they are often not legit.   Just as an FYI: "In 2012, Goodwill officials complained that nationwide donation bins operated by for-profit recycling businesses or nonprofits only giving a fraction of donated items to those who need it most were taking away from donations that would actually benefit the poor, USA Today reported."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/24/new-york-city-clothes-drop-off-scams_n_5617336.html

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« Reply #1813 on: June 02, 2015, 05:49:59 AM »
I hate to be a downer, but I'd recommend checking out the company associated with the bin;they are often not legit.   Just as an FYI: "In 2012, Goodwill officials complained that nationwide donation bins operated by for-profit recycling businesses or nonprofits only giving a fraction of donated items to those who need it most were taking away from donations that would actually benefit the poor, USA Today reported."

Goodwill is a for-profit company, too. I don't care what they do with it once I throw it in the bin: it's either that, or it goes in the dumpster. As long as it's not in my house.
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« Reply #1814 on: June 02, 2015, 11:33:08 AM »
I hate to be a downer, but I'd recommend checking out the company associated with the bin;they are often not legit.   Just as an FYI: "In 2012, Goodwill officials complained that nationwide donation bins operated by for-profit recycling businesses or nonprofits only giving a fraction of donated items to those who need it most were taking away from donations that would actually benefit the poor, USA Today reported."

Goodwill is a for-profit company, too. I don't care what they do with it once I throw it in the bin: it's either that, or it goes in the dumpster. As long as it's not in my house.

No, it's organized as a nonprofit 501(c)(3) organization. You may or may not agree with how they operate (there's some things I don't like much), but they are not legally for profit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodwill_Industries

...and confirmed on the IRS' website because I was curious.

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« Reply #1815 on: June 02, 2015, 11:36:46 AM »
i love playing "the minimalism game" where you get rid of one thing on day 1, two on day 2, all the way up to 30 on day 30.
'get rid of' could be sell, donate, give away, trash, etc.

it's a really painless way to unload 500+ items!

anything counts - a rubber band, a receipt, a bed. :)

i've played it three times (the two months before i moved last october and once again this march.)
figured i'd share, since a) i'm new, and b) it IS june 2nd, so not too late to start...

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« Reply #1816 on: June 02, 2015, 12:39:43 PM »
i love playing "the minimalism game" where you get rid of one thing on day 1, two on day 2, all the way up to 30 on day 30.
'get rid of' could be sell, donate, give away, trash, etc.

it's a really painless way to unload 500+ items!

anything counts - a rubber band, a receipt, a bed. :)

i've played it three times (the two months before i moved last october and once again this march.)
figured i'd share, since a) i'm new, and b) it IS june 2nd, so not too late to start...

I think there is at least one person on here who is playing this game already.

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« Reply #1817 on: June 02, 2015, 04:43:14 PM »
I finally got the book from library and read it immediately. I like most of what she is saying but with a small baby, I'm not sure how to keep everything in closets. Before baby, we were doing ok and things had their places. But now, with a crawler and her toys and books and clothes, everything seems everywhere. To add we live in a small apartment and her exersaucer takes up a lot of space. We've been good about giving away her big toys (her infant swing was replaced by jumperoo which was replaced by exersaucer) but we always have something big baby related. We also bought very few things for her compared to my friends and their babies. Our floor plan is such that our living room, dining room and kitchen are all in the same space (with two bedrooms and bathrooms on either side) - as a result, we end up spending A LOT of time in the main room. I've tried to repurpose stuff such that we use all the furniture in that room all the time (eg: our dining table is our changing table). Still I can see a lot of clutter in the main room and its driving me mad. Any idea how to tackle this?
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« Reply #1818 on: June 02, 2015, 08:01:55 PM »
Still I can see a lot of clutter in the main room and its driving me mad. Any idea how to tackle this?
I really really really recommend starting with clothing first, following her method: find all the t-shirts (for example) in the house, and put them in a big pile. Include those that are in your car, closet, dresser, floor, laundry room, wherever. Pick up each and every one and decide if you really love it and it's in wearable condition, in the size you currently wear. Get rid of all the others. Do this for every category of clothing. Doing the clothing first really helped me move on to other categories (I'm not nearly done yet). I found clothing easier because it's so well categorized, and it's obvious when it doesn't fit or is torn/stained, or I just never wear it. Doing this first got me into the groove for moving on to more difficult things.

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« Reply #1819 on: June 02, 2015, 08:12:54 PM »
I also read the Magic of Tidying book - the author definitely came across as single-minded in her passion re: tidying (which I can respect), while also a bit kooky in a way I couldn't fully get behind, but I really enjoyed the book.  Over the last several years, I've been decluttering my belongings and trying to simplify things.  I came to know about myself that I really prefer bare (or mostly bare except a few decorative things) surfaces and space.  Like for other posters, having lots of stuff out is over-stimulating and distracting and chaotic.

We keep our bedroom and living space (small apt) relatively streamlined and bare and minimal. And yet, there's a bunch of stuff in various closets, and we don't use all of it regularly.  I went through my clothes again and filled a 13 gallon trash bag to donate to Goodwill - my clothes all basically fit in a small closet, the amount isn't excessive.  Though to be fair, a lot of my clothes are meh and don't bring me joy.  Meh.  I convinced my husband that the 2nd bedroom ('his' room) would be better if he got rid of a bookcase to create space - surprisingly, he agreed and actually went through his stuff and culled a bunch of electronics.  I definitely pushed him on getting rid of TV cables and the like (haven't had a TV in 2 years, neither of us feel a need to get one, we watch everything on our laptops anyway). But it was basically all him, and he got to re-position his desk/computer setup so he had more space.  And the bookcase we put outside on the street got snapped up within a few hours. (Yay!)

My other small victories were gathering some mini toiletries, as well as unopened office/school supplies, and a bunch of loose leaf tea that I don't drink much (all gifted - I'm a big tea drinker so theoretically it was a good gift, but I'm not picky and find the bagged tea more convenient), and donated it to a local domestic violence shelter/organization.  I also went through the 8 textbooks my husband refused to donate (8 left after he did donate a bunch) and for 6 of them, found PDFs of that or a newer edition of the book, which meant husband was fine with getting rid of the physical textbooks.  I feel somewhat crappy about illegally downloading the PDFs, but oh well.  Half are going to Goodwill, and half we'll sell for $60-70 each on Amazon.  One already sold (after being listed yesterday), as well as an old Roku I bought for my husband >3 years ago, and his old T-89 calculator.  Yay money.

I keep sporadically looking at housing in the Boston area (our endgame location, and where I grew up) and wanting to kill myself.  We'll be moving back in 3 months or 3 years, and considering buying a few years after that.  And the prices are horrible.  Not going to lie, I really want to have little stuff and be able to happily live in a 2 bedroom with 1 kid in the future.  But that's all very far away.  In the meantime, I just keep realizing how generally non-necessary and sometimes also crappy the clothes and things I've bought over the years are.  That's kinda depressing.

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« Reply #1820 on: June 02, 2015, 09:11:00 PM »
I keep sporadically looking at housing in the Boston area (our endgame location, and where I grew up) and wanting to kill myself.  We'll be moving back in 3 months or 3 years, and considering buying a few years after that.  And the prices are horrible.  Not going to lie, I really want to have little stuff and be able to happily live in a 2 bedroom with 1 kid in the future.  But that's all very far away.  In the meantime, I just keep realizing how generally non-necessary and sometimes also crappy the clothes and things I've bought over the years are.  That's kinda depressing.

Yeah I live in a Boston suburb.  It's bad.  We closed 1.5 years ago.  Our house has gone up in value 11% (technically as we bought w/o a realtor and negotiated for that back, it's closer to 8.5%, but either way - high).  But don't get depressed, just focus now on buying things of meaning and not crap anymore, when you do decide to buy.  I've successfully persuaded my husband to avoid buying souvenirs of our trips that clutter up our house for example.
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« Reply #1821 on: June 03, 2015, 06:50:35 AM »
I'm a third through the Magi of Tidying audio book and I'm not terribly impressed. She is definitely an odd one. I don't think it helps that the audiobook sounds like they're trying to impersonate a computer generated voice. Thnk GLaDOS, but with less personality.

Personally, I think the main thing she's selling - to keep only things that give you joy - doesn't make sense. Not everything is made to give you joy. Most tools are just tools. Does this USB cable give me joy? No, but it takes up a small amount of space and I like to have an extra one for certain situations. A bag of screws certainly doesn't give me joy, but that bag has saved me several trips to a hardware store.

I think a big problem I have is that I'm already pretty minimal and organized so most of her advice doesn't help me. I was hoping for something that would push me to go farther, but this book hasn't. I can't say it hasn't done anything for me, though. It has given me some motivation to go through some more stuff and make another pile for donation.

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« Reply #1822 on: June 03, 2015, 09:33:35 AM »
Trash picked yesterday - some empty boxes. To be used to ship stuff when I sell it on ebay. Plan is to list things this week!

Edited to add cause I completely forgot:
Last weekend I needed to find a specific picture, so I go to the laptop, open the folder, and realized that I had 3000 completely unorganized pictures. (I never take pictures, that's why it's so few compared to many). I spent hours deleting duplicates, bad pictures and other ones. Down to 1300 and it's organized!
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« Reply #1823 on: June 03, 2015, 12:35:17 PM »
i love playing "the minimalism game" where you get rid of one thing on day 1, two on day 2, all the way up to 30 on day 30.
'get rid of' could be sell, donate, give away, trash, etc.

it's a really painless way to unload 500+ items!

anything counts - a rubber band, a receipt, a bed. :)

i've played it three times (the two months before i moved last october and once again this march.)
figured i'd share, since a) i'm new, and b) it IS june 2nd, so not too late to start...

Thanks for posting this, honaras! I've read about this game on the minimalists' blog in the past but didn't think I could do it. You inspired me to actually start playing the game last night! ;)
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« Reply #1824 on: June 03, 2015, 08:54:36 PM »
Just an FYI: Marie Kondo is married (contrary to previous comments) and is having a baby. It will be fun to see how parenthood inspires creative tidying and storage methods for her.

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« Reply #1825 on: June 03, 2015, 09:31:45 PM »
i love playing "the minimalism game" where you get rid of one thing on day 1, two on day 2, all the way up to 30 on day 30.
'get rid of' could be sell, donate, give away, trash, etc.

it's a really painless way to unload 500+ items!

anything counts - a rubber band, a receipt, a bed. :)

i've played it three times (the two months before i moved last october and once again this march.)
figured i'd share, since a) i'm new, and b) it IS june 2nd, so not too late to start...

Thanks for posting this, honaras! I've read about this game on the minimalists' blog in the past but didn't think I could do it. You inspired me to actually start playing the game last night! ;)

glad you were moved to start simplifying. keep us posted!

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« Reply #1826 on: June 03, 2015, 11:23:12 PM »
I finally finished moving yesterday & donated/tossed more in the process: vacuum cleaner, bulky picture frame that I hate ( came with a beautiful print that I love & kept ) , lots more fabric out ( whole big bag full ) . more out most likely when I hav time to unpack . ahh, I love it . moved into a room a quite a bit smaller ( to be measured later ) & a closet half the size & feeling less cramped than previous room! Deciding what to do with glass table ( who to give it to ). Cedar chest to brother, ottoman back to coworker.

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« Reply #1827 on: June 04, 2015, 02:59:51 AM »
I'm back to revisiting already decluttered spaces, and I'm glad to report there was still more to get rid of.

When I originally did the bathroom I put all of our flannels (face cloth / wash cloth whatever you want to call it) into a nice decorative box I didn't want to throw away. Now, months later, I realise I have never been into that box. I got rid of 5 flannels, and just kept a few, which fitted into a wash bag. I think I should probably go back and get rid of them all - we clearly are not flannel people. I would just hate to have to rebuy. And so I go round in circles. I'm going to get rid of them all. If I have to rebuy, oh well, at least I had all that space for all that time in between. Decision made.

Also reorganised a cabinet moving seldom used things higher up, and oft used things front and centre. Seems so obvious, don't know why I hadn't done it before (oh yeah, because there was so much crammed in there it was an avalanche if you tried to rearrange).

But I still have a long way to go before I've tamed the bathroom beast. I want all those products used up!

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« Reply #1828 on: June 04, 2015, 03:24:10 AM »
I've cleared out a huge pile of kitchen stuff we are getting rid of! and this is after I did a major purge already. This downsizing plan has really motivated me to only keep the essentials.

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I would just hate to have to rebuy. And so I go round in circles.

The Minimalists say that they have a $20 rule. If you aren't sure if you will use it in the future and it can be repurchased for $20 or less then you should get rid of it. Chances are you'll never do that though!

My last major house purge was a little less than a year ago and I've only bought one of those metal round steamer things that goes in a pot for about $5. Everything else that I was worried about needing, I can't even remember them now!

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« Reply #1829 on: June 04, 2015, 03:43:31 AM »
I've cleared out a huge pile of kitchen stuff we are getting rid of! and this is after I did a major purge already. This downsizing plan has really motivated me to only keep the essentials.

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I would just hate to have to rebuy. And so I go round in circles.

The Minimalists say that they have a $20 rule. If you aren't sure if you will use it in the future and it can be repurchased for $20 or less then you should get rid of it. Chances are you'll never do that though!

My last major house purge was a little less than a year ago and I've only bought one of those metal round steamer things that goes in a pot for about $5. Everything else that I was worried about needing, I can't even remember them now!

Thanks Cookie, a rule is really helpful to me, I'm going to adopt that one. With most things I'm now happy to 'let Ebay' store it, but facecloths not so much. But you're right, they could be rebought cheaply if the need ever did arise. Out they go!

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« Reply #1830 on: June 04, 2015, 04:58:17 AM »
Haven't decluttered much lately, but I gave 3 books to charity today. :-)

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« Reply #1831 on: June 04, 2015, 05:33:12 AM »
I just sold my house i lived in for 13 years. Me and my wife are taking time off work and using our inlaws as home base so I have had to declutter in order to show the house well to sell it and now must get rid of a lot of stuff and pack everything into a PODS container. It has been overwhelming to say the least

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« Reply #1832 on: June 04, 2015, 05:59:06 AM »

Personally, I think the main thing she's selling - to keep only things that give you joy - doesn't make sense. Not everything is made to give you joy. Most tools are just tools. Does this USB cable give me joy? No, but it takes up a small amount of space and I like to have an extra one for certain situations. A bag of screws certainly doesn't give me joy, but that bag has saved me several trips to a hardware store.

I think the quirkyness is part culture, though.

And after hearing the whole book I would perhaps sum up my impression of her aproach thus: she puts weight in the fact that tidying is emotional, not logical. Anyone may sit down, make a list of "things I need" and then toss all else. It's as simple as making a grosery list (though more timeconsuming). Yet we don't do that.

She nods to usefull things that doesn't bring "joy", and then debates if that item, be it a screw, cord or box is of use. Do you keep it "in case" and have for 3 years with no use? Is it easy to get your hands on? Pass it on. To get use out of something is a form of joy to her. My pots and pan doesn't "spark joy" when I hold them. They're old and battered. But they DO help me make many culinary joys. That tray I never use on the other hand, never brings me joy of any sort and so I gave that one away. It's a, to me, new yet very effective way to think.

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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #1833 on: June 04, 2015, 06:16:54 AM »
The Minimalists say that they have a $20 rule. If you aren't sure if you will use it in the future and it can be repurchased for $20 or less then you should get rid of it. Chances are you'll never do that though!

I follow this rule. I got rid of hundreds of dollars of computer parts... but by the time I did that, the parts were either outdated, or were cheap enough that I could buy another one for $15 if I needed to.
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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #1834 on: June 04, 2015, 06:48:06 AM »
The Minimalists say that they have a $20 rule. If you aren't sure if you will use it in the future and it can be repurchased for $20 or less then you should get rid of it. Chances are you'll never do that though!
Thanks for sharing this rule, it's something I've been having trouble with - deciding whether to get rid of extras I've got in case I need them later if something breaks. This is a big one in our kitchen - excess casserole dishes, cookie sheets, cutting boards and so on that we might need some day when one wears out.

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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #1835 on: June 04, 2015, 07:49:14 AM »
The rule I've read of is the 20/20 rule, which does not only factor in money but also time: any item that you can get within 20 minutes and for less than $20 you don't need to keep 'just in case'

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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #1836 on: June 04, 2015, 08:44:49 AM »
The rule I've read of is the 20/20 rule, which does not only factor in money but also time: any item that you can get within 20 minutes and for less than $20 you don't need to keep 'just in case'

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« Reply #1837 on: June 04, 2015, 09:09:54 AM »
You can replace the 20 minute part by 'can be found online' / 'borrowed from neighbours' etc.

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« Reply #1838 on: June 04, 2015, 09:11:26 AM »
Don't ruin it for me! I live in the country!
LOL that was my first thought too, nothing I can get within 20 minutes! I like the rule but will adjust it to anything less than $20 that I can get either online or within an hour drive of home.

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« Reply #1839 on: June 04, 2015, 09:15:47 AM »
You can replace the 20 minute part by 'can be found online' / 'borrowed from neighbours' etc.

That's good. 'Located and ordered within 20 mins' will do me.

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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #1840 on: June 04, 2015, 10:31:26 AM »
http://www.theminimalists.com/21days/

This approach is too minimalist for me at this time , I hav a lot of art/sewing projects I don't work on every week. But I thought someone reading the thread might be into a more "logical" (keeping what you really use) approach. Found it ( and other articles ) on this site interesting.

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« Reply #1841 on: June 04, 2015, 10:48:08 AM »
Just brought a few more items to the consignment store and collected a check for $50+.  There were 3 dresses in the batch that had a lot of meaning for me and it was hard to let them go.  But they are now 2 sizes too small so I will never wear them again.  I said goodbye and thank you to them following the Konmarie method and that made it easier.



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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #1842 on: June 04, 2015, 11:59:02 AM »
The only thing I've gotten from the book is a way to fold (which is awesome). Other things I do relating to the book are more properly relegated to this thread, as opposed to the book itself. Kondo's leanings don't quite get me all excited, but I think that some of the stuff people have commented recently made me a bit concerned.


Personally, I think the main thing she's selling - to keep only things that give you joy - doesn't make sense. Not everything is made to give you joy. Most tools are just tools. Does this USB cable give me joy? No, but it takes up a small amount of space and I like to have an extra one for certain situations. A bag of screws certainly doesn't give me joy, but that bag has saved me several trips to a hardware store.

I think the quirkyness is part culture, though.

And after hearing the whole book I would perhaps sum up my impression of her aproach thus: she puts weight in the fact that tidying is emotional, not logical. Anyone may sit down, make a list of "things I need" and then toss all else. It's as simple as making a grosery list (though more timeconsuming). Yet we don't do that.

She nods to usefull things that doesn't bring "joy", and then debates if that item, be it a screw, cord or box is of use. Do you keep it "in case" and have for 3 years with no use? Is it easy to get your hands on? Pass it on. To get use out of something is a form of joy to her. My pots and pan doesn't "spark joy" when I hold them. They're old and battered. But they DO help me make many culinary joys. That tray I never use on the other hand, never brings me joy of any sort and so I gave that one away. It's a, to me, new yet very effective way to think.
I totally understand about the "sparking joy" issue. Very few of my items spark joy, but I do use them a lot. 

I've taken away that I need to do an entire subsection in a day.  I made so much progress with my clothing (which is the only thing I've used for the KonMari method to do) in a short period of time.  It was also helpful to have a list, finish the entire process (no breaks), and reap the benefits so quickly.  I'm planning to do books with my husband this weekend. 

Some of Marie Kondo's terminology and tendencies (greeting houses) is bizarre.  However, the bigger picture of reducing possessions and not hoarding them in storage containers speaks to me. 

It is part culture, and part her religion. The idea that stuff does hold our energy is interesting, and translates well to decluttering.

However, I will say that 'sparking joy' is an interesting way of looking at things. If a USB cable that you use all the time doesn't spark joy, why do you use it? Every time I plug it in, I tend to think of all the awesomeness that goes with it. There is somewhere where coal, nuclear, or wind is harnessed (and I do prefer wind) that then sends all that electricity down the wires to me. It then goes into a battery that stores that, whether it be my remote re-charger, my laptop, or my UPS's (which runs my servers). Thinking about all that does spark joy in me. I shifted my thinking and reclaimed the whole sparking joy thing. It wasn't religiously based as Kondo's bit, but still...

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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #1843 on: June 04, 2015, 12:18:35 PM »
I have a question for those of you selling some of your stuff: what's your go-to answer when someone asks "What's the lowest price you'll take?" I absolutely HATE that question and I get it with almost everything I put up for sale. Someone even asked me that about my house! Luckily I could honestly answer that DH and I hadn't actually talked about our bottom dollar yet so we didn't know.

I don't really care about getting the best price for my stuff, I mostly just want it gone, but that question makes me want to scream and not even deal with the person at all

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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #1844 on: June 04, 2015, 12:30:51 PM »
I have a question for those of you selling some of your stuff: what's your go-to answer when someone asks "What's the lowest price you'll take?" I absolutely HATE that question and I get it with almost everything I put up for sale. Someone even asked me that about my house! Luckily I could honestly answer that DH and I hadn't actually talked about our bottom dollar yet so we didn't know.

I don't really care about getting the best price for my stuff, I mostly just want it gone, but that question makes me want to scream and not even deal with the person at all

It's quite possibly one of the worst questions to ask. I'm not going to tell you what the lowest I'd take for it. So now how are you going to negotiate me down from this price that's supposed to be the lowest I can go?

I usually am either really firm with these people or don't respond to them at all. The people who try and get the lowest deals are also the people who flake out the most often.

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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #1845 on: June 04, 2015, 12:31:10 PM »
I have a question for those of you selling some of your stuff: what's your go-to answer when someone asks "What's the lowest price you'll take?" I absolutely HATE that question and I get it with almost everything I put up for sale. Someone even asked me that about my house! Luckily I could honestly answer that DH and I hadn't actually talked about our bottom dollar yet so we didn't know.

I don't really care about getting the best price for my stuff, I mostly just want it gone, but that question makes me want to scream and not even deal with the person at all

I would just respond with a number I'm willing to accept but not my absolute lowest.  Say, I have an item listed for $60 but would let it go for $40, I would probably respond with $50.



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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #1846 on: June 04, 2015, 01:08:15 PM »
I usually give a bit above my lowest number and stick to it. Once they ask that question and I give the number, its either take it or leave it. No more bargaining. Also, for stuff I put in craigslist or Facebook, I've usually given the list price as my lowest number. There is a reason I put the price up with my posting.

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« Reply #1847 on: June 04, 2015, 01:31:32 PM »
Well put, jordanread!

From Kondo's AMA:
"What about keeping objects that don't spark joy but that I don't want to spend money or time replacing right now and which are still helpful - for example a computer, a mattress, a toothbrush...

Those things are helping you every single day. So you should appreciate how they are contributing to your life. Change the relationship with those items, by appreciating their contributions to your life."
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Re: Getting rid of stuff / Clearing out clutter!
« Reply #1848 on: June 04, 2015, 01:50:14 PM »
I have a question for those of you selling some of your stuff: what's your go-to answer when someone asks "What's the lowest price you'll take?" I absolutely HATE that question and I get it with almost everything I put up for sale. Someone even asked me that about my house! Luckily I could honestly answer that DH and I hadn't actually talked about our bottom dollar yet so we didn't know.

I don't really care about getting the best price for my stuff, I mostly just want it gone, but that question makes me want to scream and not even deal with the person at all

It's quite possibly one of the worst questions to ask. I'm not going to tell you what the lowest I'd take for it. So now how are you going to negotiate me down from this price that's supposed to be the lowest I can go?

I usually am either really firm with these people or don't respond to them at all. The people who try and get the lowest deals are also the people who flake out the most often.

Never negotiate against yourself.  "Well, I was looking to get $X (price listed).  I'm willing to consider other offers, however, I thought was $X reasonable based on [facts - age, condition of item, interest...]." 

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« Reply #1849 on: June 04, 2015, 01:51:22 PM »
Well put, jordanread!

From Kondo's AMA:
"What about keeping objects that don't spark joy but that I don't want to spend money or time replacing right now and which are still helpful - for example a computer, a mattress, a toothbrush...

Those things are helping you every single day. So you should appreciate how they are contributing to your life. Change the relationship with those items, by appreciating their contributions to your life."
Thanks for letting me know there was an AMA.  https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2u7yet/i_am_marie_kondo_international_tidying_expert_and/