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« Reply #200 on: October 12, 2018, 07:16:12 PM »
Fantastic Money Badger! Keep it up!

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« Reply #201 on: October 13, 2018, 04:54:38 AM »
Just a quick check-in, I am still sober and liking it. I had two worriesome scenarios, with my parents coming to town and my husbandís band playing at a brewery, but I came through both just fine with soda and sparkling water.

Iím glad to be showing my 16 year old that you can enjoy life sober.

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« Reply #202 on: October 13, 2018, 08:11:20 PM »
@Bean05,  Way to go!   

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« Reply #203 on: October 22, 2018, 08:37:25 AM »
Just want to chime and thank everyone for this thread.  I needed to read all this and to see the ideas.  My nightly "glass of wine" habit really has grip on me in a way that I don't like.  I can make the same argument with my morning coffee but alcohol truly is different.  I went dry last week Mon-Friday and it was great.  I had wine Sat and Sunday but will get back on track this week.  I haven't concluded I need to full board quit but I need to seriously cut back.  It was harder than I want to admit.  The drink alternatives (esp the grapefruit juice with soda water) were very helpful.  The evening wine is very ritual based for me and I need all the help I can get to find new rituals.  That time of night is usually when I can finally sit down and relax and read. 
Anyway, as always I find great advice on these forums.....! 

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« Reply #204 on: October 22, 2018, 02:45:56 PM »
Managed to not drink during a cabin trip.  Pretty big deal for me!  I used to go to the cabin all the time and not drink, but then it became a habit to drink.  16 days with no drinking....sad that it's an accomplishment but there you go!

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« Reply #205 on: October 22, 2018, 02:59:27 PM »
@danakado you are doing great. I found a nice cup of tea now serves the ritual purpose. I get to look at my choices, decide which one suits how i am feeling today, and then sit and drink a nice beverage that was thoughtfully chosen.

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« Reply #206 on: October 23, 2018, 11:44:09 AM »
@danakado you are doing great. I found a nice cup of tea now serves the ritual purpose. I get to look at my choices, decide which one suits how i am feeling today, and then sit and drink a nice beverage that was thoughtfully chosen.

Thank you!  I want to love tea but I don't.  I do also like kombuchu and now that Costco carries some it's cheaper.  The hardest part is pouring that instead of wine.  Once I'm drinking it I don't really care but making that better choice feels pretty hard.  Just last night I was about to pity party myself into wine instead.  It's embarrassing to admit this but I'm also glad to be working through this.   Because I was not drinking a lot (1 sometimes 2 glasses) it was pretty easy to blow it off.  And I guess I think I still want to.  What is the line?  Is it the mental addiction?  And like I mentioned before, I have the same relationship with coffee.  With coffee I moved to mostly decaf but still, if asked to give it up all together I would be seriously sad. 

I was also hoping that no drinking would be a miracle sleep fix.  I do think it's helped but not sure I can call it a miracle? 

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« Reply #207 on: October 23, 2018, 12:36:43 PM »
I do not like tea much either, and I hear you on the coffee!
Please give the sleep a little more time to evaluate it. I noticed after two - three weeks that I slept better, I dreamed more, and remembered my dreams. Even if you do not drink much I think you need a reset - like 2-3 weeks to feel the benefits.
Some would say if you drink weekly, and alcohol lasts 7-10 day in the body, then you are in a constant state of low level withdrawal until those 7-10 days are through. I felt really great after 3 weeks without booze and then later maybe 6 weeks as well a big uptick in energy at those times
( maybe from the improved sleep?)

Kombucha on the rocks is a nice wine substitute, and if you really like it , you can make it easily. Just need a SCOBY. I also do selzter with Lemon, much more economical.  Good luck

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« Reply #208 on: October 23, 2018, 02:27:05 PM »
For me, it was when wine became The Only Stress Relief that I knew I needed to make the switch. Never physically addicted but it had to be entirely off the table for me to build up the other tools in my solution set.

In terms of timeframes to clear, 7-10 days gets it out of your system, there's a dramatic increase in braincell regrowth around 90 days that often triggers drinking urges but increases clarity if you get past it and them again around 1 year.

Kombucha, fancy vinegars in seltzer, splash of juice in soda water. I recommend a Fancyarse Glass so you get the special drink feeling

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« Reply #209 on: October 23, 2018, 02:34:22 PM »
mspym
That is very interesting about the brain cell regrowth. Between that and reduced risk of Breast cancer, I am glad to be AF for over six months , here is to a year, ( raises fancy arse glass of Kombucha).

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« Reply #210 on: October 23, 2018, 02:37:27 PM »
@BikeFanatic *raises cup of tea* i was surprised about the correlation between alcohol and breast cancer. Given my family history, i am pleased to finally be reducing that risk factor

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« Reply #211 on: October 23, 2018, 04:46:16 PM »
In terms of timeframes to clear, 7-10 days gets it out of your system, there's a dramatic increase in braincell regrowth around 90 days that often triggers drinking urges but increases clarity if you get past it and them again around 1 year.

Interesting!  I'm getting close to the 90 day mark I think and have been noticing more cravings lately when I hadn't been feeling them for so long!  I thought it was maybe just the fact that the weather was getting colder and darker.

I'm trying to reframe my longings and cravings for a nice cold beer as "I really want a nice ice cold glass of water" and drink water like crazy because I think haf the time when I craved a drink, I was truly just thirsty!

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« Reply #212 on: October 23, 2018, 08:23:14 PM »
Loving this thread.

I'm two years alcohol free today!  Started as a one year experiment.  Feels so good to sleep well every night and wake up refreshed that I just kept going.

I am sure at some point in the future I will have a drink a social gathering or celebration, but these days I'm happy to be the DD, and let the DW have a few.

Keep it up everyone, it's worth it.

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« Reply #213 on: October 24, 2018, 09:17:53 PM »
Will be falling off the wagon for the "World's Largest Cocktail Party" in Jacksonville for the UGA-FL game...  I'm now genuinely curious to see how I feel Sunday and next week given recent temperance...   Stay tuned for next week's post with the results (or testimony?) 

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« Reply #214 on: October 25, 2018, 03:42:26 AM »
Sure, I would like to hear your honest experience. Maybe you can commit to a month aftercthe game and see how that goes.

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« Reply #215 on: October 28, 2018, 09:56:37 AM »
In terms of timeframes to clear, 7-10 days gets it out of your system, there's a dramatic increase in braincell regrowth around 90 days that often triggers drinking urges but increases clarity if you get past it and them again around 1 year.

Interesting!  I'm getting close to the 90 day mark I think and have been noticing more cravings lately when I hadn't been feeling them for so long!  I thought it was maybe just the fact that the weather was getting colder and darker.

I'm trying to reframe my longings and cravings for a nice cold beer as "I really want a nice ice cold glass of water" and drink water like crazy because I think haf the time when I craved a drink, I was truly just thirsty!

Hi CrustyBadger (cool name!), checking in as suggested. Is it possible to tag/follow threads in the MMM forum? I haven't seen any form of favourites function yet.

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« Reply #216 on: October 28, 2018, 09:35:45 PM »
@Latestarter73 the easiest way to follow a thread is to post in it, and from then on if there are any updates they will show if you click on the 'show new replies to your posts' link just under your user name. There is a subscribe option but then it spams your inbox.

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« Reply #217 on: October 30, 2018, 08:22:28 PM »
@BikeFanatic and all,   OK, here's the result from my "off the wagon" weekend...  I certainly drank a LOT less than prior game long weekends over a 4 day period...  And I have sworn off wine.   Simply killed my sleep and overall happiness level the next day, even just 2 glasses worth.   One day of bourbon at the game was relatively few side effects by comparison though.  Worst of all, I put back on about 5 of the 10 lbs I'd lost just from the brief bender.   So now back onto my bike and enough of the sauce for "Sober-vember"...   Goal is at least 50 miles on the bike and 10lbs off my arse!

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« Reply #218 on: October 31, 2018, 03:07:11 AM »
Thanks for the update! I love Sober vember. I plan a foray myself  this weekend and am a tad nervous about being re addicted. We shall see.
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« Reply #219 on: November 02, 2018, 07:50:31 AM »
Well, I drank for the first time in a month or so on Halloween. Eff that. Felt like hell the next day even though I didn't drink that much. Think I'll take the rest of the year off and go easy at new years.

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« Reply #220 on: November 02, 2018, 02:12:50 PM »
It's been 4 weeks.  I'm probably having a drink tonight, but just one.  I'm super glad I broke the cycle that I had fallen into, and I might be back again for another break later.  Thanks to all for this thread! 

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« Reply #221 on: November 02, 2018, 02:42:11 PM »
I’m doing “sober November”. Not that I drink to excess, but I’m cutting carbs and feel like my waistline and wallet will both thank me for this.

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« Reply #222 on: November 04, 2018, 08:20:18 AM »
You all inspired me. Also have to share some credit with the hangover I woke up with yesterday. I am not going to drink at home anymore. In a move where I have to be anti-mustachian to achieve mustachian goals, I plan to only drink socially. I really don't feel having a beer at home adds to my life, but going out to enjoy a drink or two with a friend on occasion (at the same rate I do today) does add joy to my life. The home drinking feels like added drinking with no added joy. We'll see how I can do with moderation as my DH is habitual drinker and always offers to share.

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« Reply #223 on: November 20, 2018, 04:12:25 AM »
@aneel, That's a good point about the joy of social drinking vs. the "habitual home" drinking...    It takes the edge off business meetings and other awkward gatherings (neighborhood dinner party or book club anyone?)   And it certainly reduces intake to realize you're paying $5 or more a glass at the restaurant than drinking cheaply "in bulk" at home.    A rare case where it's good to pay more at the restaurant/bar than at home.

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« Reply #224 on: January 06, 2019, 05:38:21 PM »
I've had an extremely stressful weekend, capping a stressful week, and for the first time since going alcohol free over the summer, find myself really struggling with cravings for alcohol.  It is very clear to me that I actually want to medicate myself in some way to deal with the emotions I am feeling.

I am having deep cravings for one (or two or three) shots of vodka, over ice.   I haven't felt this strongly in quite some time.

I'm not going to drink; I've decided for myself that I am done with that.  That was my choice and only for me.  But I think I need some other strategies for dealing with the emotions I am feeling.  Simply sitting with the cravings, acknowledging them, and letting them pass worked in the past but isn't working now.

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« Reply #225 on: January 06, 2019, 05:55:13 PM »
I've had an extremely stressful weekend, capping a stressful week, and for the first time since going alcohol free over the summer, find myself really struggling with cravings for alcohol.  It is very clear to me that I actually want to medicate myself in some way to deal with the emotions I am feeling.

I am having deep cravings for one (or two or three) shots of vodka, over ice.   I haven't felt this strongly in quite some time.

I'm not going to drink; I've decided for myself that I am done with that.  That was my choice and only for me.  But I think I need some other strategies for dealing with the emotions I am feeling.  Simply sitting with the cravings, acknowledging them, and letting them pass worked in the past but isn't working now.

I totally hear you on this although my lifestyle change wasn't alcohol.  It's blindsiding to have such strong cravings after months of smooth(er) sailing.

I have some alternative treats/activities to reach for as well as reminding myself how good the life change has been feeling. But not going to lie - it's a shock when this happens.  Humbling and hard.  Hang in there! 

Edited to say that this is a wakeup call to develop some future coping strategies now you know this will happen and how it feels.  Sorry this isn't more helpful right in the moment now.
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« Reply #226 on: January 06, 2019, 06:52:42 PM »
Thanks, @Moustachienne !

Yeah, I wondered if there was even a point to sending a semi-anonymous post out to the forum, detailing a personal struggle like that.  But I wanted to share with someone and don't want to reach out to people I know in real life.

A good cry, a hot bath, a few glasses of water (for hydration) and then some ice cold orange juice with (this is weird) some Tabasco sauce on top seemed to help.  The combination of sweet/spicy flavors on my tongue were enough of a jolt that I think it interrupted my craving (and the sugar rush from the OJ maybe helped.)   A good night's sleep cures many ills as well, perhaps.

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« Reply #227 on: January 06, 2019, 07:11:06 PM »
 @CrustyBadger  ]I think sometimes just saying the words can be enough to acknowledge the feeling (I want to) , and reinforce the decision (not going to) you have already made. It continues to surprise me at times 18 months in but now I know that the craving means "I feel sad and I want a treat" and I have a list now of other treats that are better for me.

I like your action plan and am pleased it worked!

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« Reply #228 on: January 07, 2019, 10:59:00 PM »
Dry January for me. I don't want to quit drinking, just get it under more control.

I think in February I'll go back, but limit myself to 3 days a week and no booze when I'm stressed or feeling down. That way is bad.

So far what I'm most impressed by is how much more energy I have late in the evening. I'm up at 1 now (was up at 2 last night and woke up at 8 this morning) I'm sure 7 hours from now I won't feel as sleep deprived as if I'd hit the booze.

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« Reply #229 on: January 08, 2019, 06:11:21 AM »
My DH and I are doing dry January as well. We are not heavy drinkers but 1-2 glasses of wine a night were becoming a bad habit. So far I don't really feel any different, except for feeling hung over a couple days in, which was weird.  I also get a craving each night while making dinner but it passes after dinnertime.

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« Reply #230 on: January 08, 2019, 06:41:53 AM »
Op here. I love that this is still going! I'm not always commenting but watching as they roll in and there is a lot of inspiration here. Keep it up, everyone!

This month I'm approaching a year of no booze so i pulled my financials from the alcohol bar category and compared to 2017. We have spent $2,400 less in 2018! Not directly related but close is our restaurant spending also went down by $1,400! We followed Frugal Woods 30 day challenge late in the year and also managed to cut our grocery expenses by about $6,000. Helluva a sober year financially and I haven't even talked about how much my added energy and motivation has impacted other aspects of life. Was excited to share with those of you on the same journey.

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« Reply #231 on: January 08, 2019, 06:42:58 AM »
Im doing dry january but I did have an exception that was preplanned. So far doesn't seem too difficult, but I'm only a week in so we'll see. Social situations where I'd normally drink are the hardest, but after the holidays I'm ready to just chill. Right now it even feels like I want to go longer, but that may change by the end of the month.

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« Reply #232 on: January 08, 2019, 06:52:16 AM »
Thanks for starting this thread, @onemorebike !  It's been very supportive!

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« Reply #233 on: January 09, 2019, 03:27:06 AM »
Trying a short dry January. Day 2 tonight, but the weekend is coming.
I have always been a heavy drinker and have issues at times, but I also realised I spend about $300 a month on it, which is ridiculous. Pretty much my 3rd budget category after rent and groceries.
So I will make more efforts this year for this sake as well as my mental and physical health.
Hope to be back on this thread to share and encourage e AC h other.
Now off to bed for day 3 tomorrow

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« Reply #234 on: January 09, 2019, 03:47:40 AM »
Trying a short dry January. Day 2 tonight, but the weekend is coming.
I have always been a heavy drinker and have issues at times, but I also realised I spend about $300 a month on it, which is ridiculous. Pretty much my 3rd budget category after rent and groceries.
So I will make more efforts this year for this sake as well as my mental and physical health.
Hope to be back on this thread to share and encourage e AC h other.
Now off to bed for day 3 tomorrow
Evasion, have you checked out the 30-day alcohol experiment? A great companion to a dry January.

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« Reply #235 on: January 09, 2019, 04:04:59 AM »
Hello all,

I am on day 4. I started this for a couple of reasons. I donít sleep properly and it really does affect my mood. Although in the past couple of spdays I canít say itís improved but gotten a bit worse. So Iím not saying Iím going to start again but am examining the detox process that I imagine is the culprit to the grumpiness.

The boost it will give our budget will be welcomed. This year is really a focus one budget and savings. Considering our income of 90k annually I would expect we could have a positive net worth within Two years. 

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« Reply #236 on: January 20, 2019, 08:13:55 AM »
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« Reply #237 on: January 20, 2019, 08:34:03 AM »
Hello all,

I am on day 4. I started this for a couple of reasons. I donít sleep properly and it really does affect my mood. Although in the past couple of spdays I canít say itís improved but gotten a bit worse. So Iím not saying Iím going to start again but am examining the detox process that I imagine is the culprit to the grumpiness.

The boost it will give our budget will be welcomed. This year is really a focus one budget and savings. Considering our income of 90k annually I would expect we could have a positive net worth within Two years.

My sleep got worse for the first week but then went back to baseline. Hang in there, and make sure you aren't replacing alcohol with caffeine. One thing I have noticed is that I wake up to pee more often at night due to drinking herbal tea instead of wine before bed. On the bright side, I have lost a couple pounds without really changing anything else.

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« Reply #238 on: January 20, 2019, 08:35:54 AM »
How's everyone doing, especially those doing dry January? I had 2 nights where I drank with friends, and 2 desserts that included a small amount of alcohol. It's harder than I thought,  but only because of the social settings. Physically and mentally, I've been fine, and I'm only tempted when I'm with friends I usually drink with. Going to continue for the rest of the month anyway. I really want a straight 30 stretch with no cheating, so I think I'm going to give it up for lent as well, now that I've had the practice.

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« Reply #239 on: January 20, 2019, 08:40:21 AM »
I'm on day 24. I decided before the new year I'd go all the way through my third IVF retrieval with no drinking, in the hopes of helping outcomes. It's amazing how much a black and white view has helped. I'm not even taking sips of drinks if my husband has one or anything like that. Just straight up, no alcohol. It's been easier to stick to this time, I think largely because my husband operates in absolutes. Just because grey areas/just sips has worked for *me* in the past, he'll unintentionally undermine me/enable me because that's not how *he* commits to a goal. It's just interesting- I had never thought about needing to work around HIS way of approaching a change (absolutist vs moderator), rather than just mine.

Anyway, just an interesting insight I had to this whole thing. Still a ways to go, I'll be no drinking through mid-March at least.

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« Reply #240 on: January 20, 2019, 08:52:34 AM »

I'm joining with a few exceptions.  I've got four beers in my basement.  I reserve the right to drink one or two of those.  My parents and I split a small membership at a local winery.  I get the equivalent of one bottle of wine a month.  I allow myself maximum of two beers if I go out to a bar with a friend or, in the summer, if I have a friend over to grill.  (I've got a busy job and little kids so this is a once a week or two type thing).

So, I expect like a couple drinks a month rather than 5-10 a week.  $0 spend in my alcohol category this month (though I did have a few beers out layered into the eating out budget).

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« Reply #241 on: January 21, 2019, 04:58:43 AM »

My sleep got worse for the first week but then went back to baseline. Hang in there, and make sure you aren't replacing alcohol with caffeine. One thing I have noticed is that I wake up to pee more often at night due to drinking herbal tea instead of wine before bed. On the bright side, I have lost a couple pounds without really changing anything else.

There were a few nights that were hard like you said. Trying carbonated water at dinner. MBe the same issue as the tea occurs so I have been a bit of a zombie. Thinking caffeine and alcohol have to go? Did you have to give it up as well?
 My husband brought out a bottle of maple licure ( Canadian and proud!)  so I have had a shot to sip on that this week. So not a dry week.



Op here. I love that this is still going! I'm not always commenting but watching as they roll in and there is a lot of inspiration here. Keep it up, everyone!

This month I'm approaching a year of no booze so i pulled my financials from the alcohol bar category and compared to 2017. We have spent $2,400 less in 2018! Not directly related but close is our restaurant spending also went down by $1,400! We followed Frugal Woods 30 day challenge late in the year and also managed to cut our grocery expenses by about $6,000. Helluva a sober year financially and I haven't even talked about how much my added energy and motivation has impacted other aspects of life. Was excited to share with those of you on the same journey.

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Congratulations!

A nd this is disconcertingly hard.