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maizefolk

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Plans not labeled as HDHPs but with high deductables
« on: November 20, 2015, 11:19:33 AM »
My employer offers a total of three health insurance options with differing monthly premiums and deductibles. None of the plans are described specifically as being HSA eligible however the cheapest plan has an annual deductible of $1,550 and an out of pocket maximum of $2,900. This would appear to satisfy the only listed criteria I've been able to find for an HSA account: 1) deductible must be >$1,300 and 2) out of pocket maximum must be less than $6,450.  (See: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rp-14-30.pdf ).

What I haven't been able to figure out is if meeting those two criteria are both necessary AND sufficient for HSA eligibility, and I should be rushing out to open an HSA account with some 3rd party provider to get a tax deduction in 2015 or if they are necessary but not sufficient, and I would need a health insurance plan that also specifically mentions either being an HDHP or being HSA eligible because there are lots of other behind-the-scenes criteria the insurance company would need to meet.

Could anyone with more experience shed some light on this?

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Plans not labeled as HDHPs but with high deductables
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2015, 03:19:15 PM »
This is my understanding, yes, that a plan IS a HDHP if it meets those requirements, making you eligible to open an HSA with a third party.

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Re: Plans not labeled as HDHPs but with high deductables
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2015, 06:49:50 PM »
The insurance company is the one who has to get their plan approved by the state as being HSA Eligible or HDHP, otherwise it is not one.  You can't just randomly decide yourself that a plan is HDHP/HSA Eligible.

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Re: Plans not labeled as HDHPs but with high deductables
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2015, 06:51:39 PM »
It is necessary, but it is not sufficient. All cost sharing (except for mandated preventive at no cost sharing) must also take place after the deductible. Another way to state that: the plan can pay nothing except for preventive care before the deductible is met. For example, you can have a plan that meets the criteria for deductible and out-of-pocket maximum amounts (say $1500 deductible and $4000 OOP max) but has generic prescriptions that are covered at $10 copay and not subject to the deductible. That plan would not be HSA eligible. This is the most common reason that an otherwise eligible plan would not be eligible.

For family plans, the deductible must be structured in a way that no services are paid before the family deductible, even what would be the individual deductible has been reached. For example, say you have a plan that has a $1300 individual deductible and $2600 family deductible. If a single person on a family plan has a large claim, then the he is subject to the $2600 deductible (this is not always the case for non-HSA plans).
« Last Edit: November 20, 2015, 06:53:35 PM by jorjor »

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Re: Plans not labeled as HDHPs but with high deductables
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2015, 06:53:02 PM »
A couple links that popped up first on the Google machine that list the first-dollar coverage distinction:

http://www.bcbsil.com/country/hsa_qualifies.htm

http://www.hsaconnect.com/hsa-health-insurance/hsa.php

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Re: Plans not labeled as HDHPs but with high deductables
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2015, 01:40:42 PM »
The HSA eligible stuff is obnoxious since I would love to have an HSA eligible plan. However, when looking at plans in my state for Obamacare, I can pay $180/month for a HDHP that isn't HSA eligible or I can pay $220/month for a HDHP that IS HSA eligible and the ONLY difference on the 30 line comparison is that the $180/month plan has a $20 copay on generics while the HSA eligible plan you have to pay 100% of the cost on generics until the deductible is met. Blech. $480/year more and pay more for generics JUST to be HSA eligible? I love the tax benefits but not sure I love them that much.

Fortunately I only have another month of this and then I'll jump on my wife's insurance. I wasn't originally planning to go self employed until next year so had to go Obamacare until open season.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2015, 01:42:39 PM by Vilgan »

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Re: Plans not labeled as HDHPs but with high deductables
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2015, 02:39:33 PM »
Okay, thank you very much for the info jorjor & Altons Bobs. Every time I'd tried googling this on my own I'd only found descriptions of the deductible/out of pocket limits. The first dollar coverage distinction makes sense and it looks like it'd disqualify me already even if it weren't for the certification requirement.

It seems ridiculous that some people are in the position Vilgan describes where they would have to pay more money for a plan that covers less just to get that certification. For the heck of it I compared the cost of the cheapest HSA eligible Obamacare insurance plan I could find on my state exchange to the subsidized rate I'm currently paying through my employer.... and yup, I like tax breaks as much as the next guy, but that's wouldn't be a smart trade off at all.

Thanks again!

 

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