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jmr5x

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I had the "guru" at HR block online go over my taxes after I used the online software.  I have spent 50,000 this year on upgrades and repairs to the 3 rental properties I purchased.  I would love to get as much back on this return as possible and NOT get audited.  Can someone check out this quick screen shots from my taxes and explain to me what exactly is going?  Thanks!
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jwright

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Re: HR block "GURU" double check. Can someone explain these forms?
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2016, 07:26:39 AM »
Rental Income is considered passive income unless you are a real estate professional.  Passive losses are generally limited to passive income; so if you have passive income, you can offset the losses to net to zero, but you can't report the negative net loss as a reduction of your income.   That is the general rule.  There is an allowance, taught to me as "the little man's rule", wherein, if your MAGI (modified adjusted gross income) is less than $100,000 you can deduct $25,000 in losses.  For every $2 your MAGI is over $100,000, the allowance is reduced by $1 and is completely phased out by a MAGI of $150,000.

Looking at your forms, your accountant calculated your net loss across all properties as $38,873.  He does not consider you a real estate professional, so all is passive.  Now do you get to take the $25,000 allowance?  Well, the MAGI is 119,241 so you are over the $100,000.  Since you are between $100K and $150K, you get a partial amount of the $25,000; calculated as $15,376.  The remaining unallowed loss is carried forward to be used to offset future passive income.


jmr5x

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Re: HR block "GURU" double check. Can someone explain these forms?
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2016, 07:05:22 PM »
Rental Income is considered passive income unless you are a real estate professional.  Passive losses are generally limited to passive income; so if you have passive income, you can offset the losses to net to zero, but you can't report the negative net loss as a reduction of your income.   That is the general rule.  There is an allowance, taught to me as "the little man's rule", wherein, if your MAGI (modified adjusted gross income) is less than $100,000 you can deduct $25,000 in losses.  For every $2 your MAGI is over $100,000, the allowance is reduced by $1 and is completely phased out by a MAGI of $150,000.

Looking at your forms, your accountant calculated your net loss across all properties as $38,873.  He does not consider you a real estate professional, so all is passive.  Now do you get to take the $25,000 allowance?  Well, the MAGI is 119,241 so you are over the $100,000.  Since you are between $100K and $150K, you get a partial amount of the $25,000; calculated as $15,376.  The remaining unallowed loss is carried forward to be used to offset future passive income.

Finally the tax code for the average joe.  I really appreciate the in depth explanation.  I'm not sure why I don't "get" these laws. I'm guessing it is because their are so many.  Hard to see the trees because of the forest.  Looks like we will be out of the "little man's rule" before long and may need to look into becoming the tax professionals?   I am always in for way to reduce my taxable income.  After repairs and getting the 3 units ready for rentals, I doubt we will have much this year.  Definitely not close to $40,000.

Thanks again for taking the time to check out my forms.