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lizzie

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Backdoor Roths and Inherited IRAs
« on: November 06, 2015, 12:35:30 PM »
For the last few years, DH and I have been making backdoor Roth contributions, which as you know means that you put post tax $ in an IRA and then convert it to a Roth IRA. Because of the IRS's pro rata rule, you can't really do this if you have an IRA with pretax contributions in it, since the IRS will treat you as though you converted a pro rata share of the pretax IRA and make you pay taxes on it.

This year I inherited a pretax IRA. If you know anything about inherited IRAs, the heir is not considered the "owner," but rather the beneficiary.  So there's an argument that I could still do the backdoor Roth and claim that the pro rata rule doesn't apply since I'm not the owner of the IRA, just the beneficiary. A CPA told me that that's probably OK, but he couldn't say for sure.

Has anyone else been in this situation and gone ahead with the backdoor Roth without bad tax consequences?

If it's relevant, I have to take RMDs from the IRA.

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Re: Backdoor Roths and Inherited IRAs
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2015, 02:48:44 PM »
You pose an interesting question that does not have a clear answer. Before turning to the issue under discussion, I review some basic principles for the pedagogical benefit of other readers.

In the United States, "the power to enact statutes may only be exercised in accord with a single, finely wrought and exhaustively considered, procedure". Clinton v. City of New York, 524 US 417, 439-40 (1998) (citation and internal quotation marks omitted). This procedure involves a bill passing both houses of Congress. US Constitution, Art I, § 7, cl 2. Notably, the IRS does not have a freestanding power to enact laws. Instead, "[i]t is axiomatic that an administrative agency's power to promulgate legislative regulations is limited to the authority delegated by Congress". Bowen v. Georgetown Univ Hospital, 488 US 204, 208 (1988). In exercise of its legislative power, Congress has delegated to the Secretary of the Treasury the power to, among other things, "prescribe all needful rules and regulations for the enforcement of" the Internal Revenue Code. 26 USC § 7805(a). However, this provision does not grant the Secretary or the IRS the power to amend statutes. "A regulation which ... operates to create a rule out of harmony with the statute is a mere nullity." Manhattan General Equipment v. Commissioner, 297 US 129, 134 (1936) (internal comma omitted).

There is no such thing as "the IRS's pro rata rule". The rule commonly referred to as the pro rata rule is not an invention of the IRS, but rather is the result of an Act of Congress (discussed more below). Congress has dictated that the general rule is that distributions from an IRA are "included in gross income ... in the manner provided under section 72". 26 USC § 408(d)(1). The rule commonly referred to as the pro rata rule is presently codified at 26 USC § 72(e)(8)(B). For the purpose of applying this latter provision, "all individual retirement plans shall be treated as 1 contract". 26 USC § 408(d)(2)(A). I will refer to this below as "the aggregation rule". Nothing in the statute clarifies which plans exactly fall within "all ... plans". In particular, there is nothing in the statute to clarify whether the "aggregation rule" captures inherited IRAs of which the taxpayer is the beneficiary but not the grantor (contributor). In view of this legislative ambiguity, we would turn to the regulations to see if they shed any light on this issue, but in this case, there are no relevant regulations.

Even Justice Scalia could not apply textualism to deduce the meaning of the "aggregation rule" because the literal meaning of the provision is absurd (i.e. it does not really apply to "all ... plans" in the world; it presumably only aggregates plans with some sort of connection to the taxpayer, even though no such qualification exists in the text). There are no textual indicia whatsoever in the statute to clarify what it means. Thus, I turn to the legislative history. In 1986, there were no income limits on deductible contributions to a traditional IRA when the taxpayer was an active participant in certain pension plans. These restrictions were introduced by § 1101 of the Tax Reform Act of 1986, PL 99-514, 100 Stat 2085, 2411-14 (Oct 22, 1986). To compensate for these new restrictions, Congress introduced the concept of designated nondeductible contributions to an IRA. Id, § 1102(a), 100 Stat at 2414-15. This statute also introduced the "aggregation rule", which has not been modified in the intervening years. Id, § 1102(c), 100 Stat at 2416 ("Treatment of Distributions").

The concept of nondeductible contributions and the "aggregation rule" made their way into the bill that became the Tax Reform Act of 1986 by way of a Senate amendment. The Finance Committee Report accompanying the Senate amendment states that, for the purpose of the IRA distribution rules, "all IRAs of an individual are treated as one contract". Senate Committee on Finance, Conference Report on the Tax Reform Act of 1986 (Sept 18, 1986), II-379 (emphasis added). Moreover, after the enactment of the Tax Reform Act of 1986, the staff of the US Congress Joint Committee on Taxation, consisting of members of Congress from both houses, prepared a document titled "General Explanation of the Tax Reform Act of 1986", dated May 4, 1987 ("General Explanation"). This document explains the "aggregation rule" at pages 630-31. Because it was published after the enactment of the bill, this document "is not part of the legislative history although it is entitled to respect". Redlark v. Commissioner, 106 TC 31, 45 (1996), rev'd without disagreement on this point 141 F3d 936 (9th Cir 1998). See also Agro-Jal Farming Enterprises v. Commissioner, 145 TC No 5, at *18 n 8 (2015) (discussing the weight to be given to the General Explanation in light of comments by the Supreme Court in United States v. Woods, 134 SCt 557 (2013)). The description in the General Explanation does not explicitly resolve the ambiguity in the "aggregation rule", but it appears to contemplate that the aggregation includes only IRAs to which the taxpayer has made a contribution:

                The Act provides that, if an individual withdraws an amount from an IRA during a taxable year and the individual has previously made both deductible and nondeductible IRA contributions, then the amount includible in income for the taxable year is the portion of the amount withdrawn which bears the same ratio to the amount withdrawn for the taxable year as the individual's income on the contract (including all IRA contributions) bears to the value of the contract (including both deductible and nondeductible contributions).
General Explanation, at *631 (emphasis added).

This legislative history evidence suggests, but does not definitively prove, that the IRA aggregation rule does not apply to aggregate the taxpayer's IRAs with inherited IRAs to which the taxpayer has not made any contributions and is merely the beneficiary. I leave it up to you to draw whichever conclusion you feel is legally defensible.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2015, 07:57:59 PM by Cathy »

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Re: Backdoor Roths and Inherited IRAs
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2015, 09:38:15 AM »
[lots of text]

Although possibly constituting more than the OP bargained for, that was some seriously sexy legal analysis for us tax law nerds!

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Re: Backdoor Roths and Inherited IRAs
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2015, 07:39:14 AM »
[lots of text]

Although possibly constituting more than the OP bargained for, that was some seriously sexy legal analysis for us tax law nerds!

Very sexy!

lizzie

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Re: Backdoor Roths and Inherited IRAs
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2015, 09:30:30 AM »
OK, OP here, glad that tax-law nerds are getting an opportunity to feel tingles in their dangles, but, back to the actual topic...

I'd really appreciate hearing from anyone who has dealt with this issue. Thanks!

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Re: Backdoor Roths and Inherited IRAs
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2015, 09:56:23 AM »
I was unable to locate any precedential authorities that directly answer your question. If I had located them, I would have cited them instead of writing the post above.

In the absence of such precedential authorities, I'm not sure what value you hope to derive from information on what positions other people have taken on their returns. The IRS's failure to challenge a position on one return does not prevent it from challenging the same position on a different return. In fact, the IRS does this all the time. See, e.g., Taylor v. Commissioner, TC Sum Op 2015-51. The US government is not bound by nonmutual issue preclusion, even if it that doctrine otherwise had some application here (which it doesn't). See, e.g., United States v. Mendoza, 464 US 154, 161 (1984) ("The application of nonmutual estoppel against the Government would force the Solicitor General to abandon ... prudential concerns and to appeal every adverse decision in order to avoid foreclosing further review."). The fact that a tax position went unchallenged on one return simply has no relevance to the legal merits of that position.

When you have a tax question, you cannot look to what other people have done on their returns. The only place you can look is to the law itself. I acknowledge that if the IRS were auditing returns in a systematically discriminatory manner, that might raise constitutional concerns, but outside of that kind of situation, the experience of other people is irrelevant to the tax treatment of IRA distributions.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2015, 10:06:08 AM by Cathy »

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Re: Backdoor Roths and Inherited IRAs
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2015, 10:12:19 AM »
Cathy, I am in fact a lawyer and already knew everything relevant that you've said in this thread. Also, I don't need to justify to you why I am asking to hear from people with actual experience with this issue. So with all due respect, I don't need to hear anything more from you on this topic. Thanks.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2015, 10:14:56 AM by lizzie »

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Re: Backdoor Roths and Inherited IRAs
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2015, 10:24:07 AM »
My posts aren't necessarily written for the benefit of the person who created the thread. My posts are intended to provide general educational information for people who might be interested in the topic. Sometimes the information is also helpful to the person who created the thread, but even if it's not, I don't consider that a flaw in my posts.

At some point I will probably get around to starting my own website for these posts instead of posting them to the MMM forums. The people who like my writing can visit the new website. My posts are already basically standalone essays, so they'll work well on their own site. I probably won't get around to that until next year though.
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Re: Backdoor Roths and Inherited IRAs
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2015, 11:04:35 AM »
To be clear, I appreciate that you took the time to respond initially, and I also appreciate that your posts may be helpful to others. They just haven't been particularly helpful to me, and for that reason I wanted to steer the thread back to my original question.