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Trashed The iPhone Today
« on: November 20, 2017, 04:40:27 PM »
I know my smart phone usage is no where near what the avg person, but it seems like I've lost a limb after I sold my iPhone and went to a flip phone.   Its amazing how much time I spend on it....at least an hour in the morning coffee time and countless wasted minutes throughout the day.   About 3 hours everyday!    How Sad.   

Its a strange feeling having no phone to read the latest bullshit.   Has anyone else gone rogue against smart phones?   

« Last Edit: November 20, 2017, 05:37:35 PM by surfhb »

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Re: Trashed The iPhone Today
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2017, 06:43:09 PM »
I did away with the smartphone about 6 months ago. I saved $35 a month off my bill by no longer paying for data, but mostly I saved lots of time. By not being on the Internet as much I've read more books and I'm not subjected to so much advertising. People are zombies  and can't  think for themselves anymore. 

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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2017, 01:07:13 AM »
I've kept the smartphone, tossed the data plan.  Since I don't have WiFi at work, this keeps me off the internet.  Since I can still download the PDFs from my school assignments, I can still do homework.  Win/win.

I do miss the days of predictive T9 texting on my flip phone though.  How easy it was to fire off a text.  Somehow pushing buttons is ten times more satisfying than mashing the screen and then hitting back space because the effing fat finger or stupid auto correct "fixes" the word.

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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2017, 01:37:10 AM »
My solution has been to keep 'endless feed' apps off my phone.  That means apps that you can open and scroll endlessly through for no reason are gone - news, facebook, youtube, etc.  All the other 'utility' apps are kept around - messenger, gmail, maps, uber, etc.  It seems to work for me.

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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2017, 06:39:55 AM »
If its true the average person (based on commercials I have seen lately) checks there phone 80xs a day that seems nuts. I do know I look at mine more times than not out of boredom so I either need to be more productive or get rid of it is the way I am seeing it.
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2017, 04:12:04 PM »
So remove the apps that you use when you're bored.

Or turn off cell data for them. :)

I've made my phone excessively boring, and it reduces my use a ton.
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2017, 04:12:52 PM »
I've kept the smartphone, tossed the data plan.  Since I don't have WiFi at work, this keeps me off the internet.  Since I can still download the PDFs from my school assignments, I can still do homework.  Win/win.

I do miss the days of predictive T9 texting on my flip phone though.  How easy it was to fire off a text.  Somehow pushing buttons is ten times more satisfying than mashing the screen and then hitting back space because the effing fat finger or stupid auto correct "fixes" the word.

What service are you using? Some I've seen won't allow a smart phone without a data plan. I'm seriously considering this baby step away from net addiction.

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Re: Trashed The iPhone Today
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2017, 04:35:49 PM »
Wife and I both have smartphone, but we both do not have data plan. We just use wifi at home, and most places you can get free wifi anyway, so we do not see the reason paying for data plan.

I do not think we can go back to flip phone. It is nice to be able to see information like if it is going to rain today, or where is the cheapest gas prices. We also have a few apps that makes us money, so definitely not going to give up on those.

I can see how it can be addictive to check the phone every 5 minutes. Just depends on the owner of the phone. 

EDIT: we both have Tmobile pre-paid plan. $100/year. We mostly use wifi calling, so we do not even use up all of the minutes :)
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Re: Trashed The iPhone Today
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2017, 09:24:31 PM »
We just never bothered getting smartphones in the first place. It's worked out great! Our flip phones are totally fine for calling people, and we have our computers for doing anything online.
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2017, 06:42:11 AM »
Congrats on ditching your phone! :) Looking forward to hearing how you like it as time goes on!

Keeping your smartphone boring is great advice!

I don't have any news or social media apps, and the screen is so tiny (iphone 5) that it's not satisfying for reading anything other than a text, the clock or to see who's calling me. I only check my phone during the work day if it rings.

I've noticed people are always so pissed at me for not responding to their texts immediately, even my elderly parents. I explain that I just don't text at work, unless there was an emergency, in which case I'd hope they'd call and then of course I'd answer. This really bugs me.

I do have all of my audio books and podcasts, and I love my phone for that. I also have a running app that maps my runs, because I have personal goals with how much mileage I want to walk and run in a month.

Now if only I could get more serious about limiting my computer use when I get home...

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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2017, 08:01:54 AM »
I ended up with the LG Xpression with a QWERTY keyboard.   Its very fast and easy to use.   

I know this is all in my head and I suppose its just a matter of self control, but I just cant seem to put down the iphone when Im having idle time.   Its plainly how these devices are designed to do....keep people coming back.   

Also, the security thing is a concern on a smartphone:  Amazon, Ebay tracking where you go online, ect.   

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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2017, 12:47:04 AM »
I've kept the smartphone, tossed the data plan.  Since I don't have WiFi at work, this keeps me off the internet.  Since I can still download the PDFs from my school assignments, I can still do homework.  Win/win.

I do miss the days of predictive T9 texting on my flip phone though.  How easy it was to fire off a text.  Somehow pushing buttons is ten times more satisfying than mashing the screen and then hitting back space because the effing fat finger or stupid auto correct "fixes" the word.

What service are you using? Some I've seen won't allow a smart phone without a data plan. I'm seriously considering this baby step away from net addiction.

Republic Wireless. If you can't bring your own device though, there are other companies such as Ting. I.P. Daley's Communications Superguide sticky in this section  of the forum should have some good recommendations.

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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2017, 01:43:31 AM »
I ended up with the LG Xpression with a QWERTY keyboard.   Its very fast and easy to use.   

I know this is all in my head and I suppose its just a matter of self control, but I just cant seem to put down the iphone when Im having idle time.   Its plainly how these devices are designed to do....keep people coming back.   

Also, the security thing is a concern on a smartphone:  Amazon, Ebay tracking where you go online, ect.

imo just like anything else, it is about self control... smartphone, shopping, eating, drinking etc

Everything is a security concern if you are not careful... just because something can be hacked and tracked, does not means you do not use it :)

A car potentially can kill ya, but I am sure you jump in one anyway without thinking twice.

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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2017, 07:58:20 AM »
I ditched my iPhone for a Motorola and now use Ting.  The cool thing about going off a data plan and paying for usage is you leave your phone off and you can actually enjoy life without being tethered to a phone.  I couldn't switch to a flip phone because I do need GPS sometimes to find my way.  My phone cost me $60 and my plan is usually $15 per month.  I don't understand how people are willing to drop 1K on a new iPhone (especially considering most are upgrading from an iPhone that works just fine) and pay huge monthly plans.

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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2017, 03:09:04 PM »
I have a cheapie Sansung smartphone on Tracfone service. I can buy just as much talk/text/data as I need and then try to see how long I can make it last (Costs me $5-10/mo). I have wifi at work so I can use FB messaging to keep in touch with a few people, and read I ebooks on lunch break. I don't use my work computer to log into personal websites.

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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2017, 06:09:24 PM »
I ditched my iPhone for a Motorola and now use Ting.  The cool thing about going off a data plan and paying for usage is you leave your phone off and you can actually enjoy life without being tethered to a phone.  I couldn't switch to a flip phone because I do need GPS sometimes to find my way.  My phone cost me $60 and my plan is usually $15 per month.  I don't understand how people are willing to drop 1K on a new iPhone (especially considering most are upgrading from an iPhone that works just fine) and pay huge monthly plans.

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FYI- if you have an old smartphone still hanging around- you can download the maps of the areas you need to navigate to when you are on home wi-fi and then your smartphone with no data service can still give you turn by turn directions... so basically you can use it as a garmin :)

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« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2017, 09:29:20 AM »
I ditched my iPhone for a Motorola and now use Ting.  The cool thing about going off a data plan and paying for usage is you leave your phone off and you can actually enjoy life without being tethered to a phone.  I couldn't switch to a flip phone because I do need GPS sometimes to find my way.  My phone cost me $60 and my plan is usually $15 per month.  I don't understand how people are willing to drop 1K on a new iPhone (especially considering most are upgrading from an iPhone that works just fine) and pay huge monthly plans.

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FYI- if you have an old smartphone still hanging around- you can download the maps of the areas you need to navigate to when you are on home wi-fi and then your smartphone with no data service can still give you turn by turn directions... so basically you can use it as a garmin :)

That is assuming there is still an app that can be installed, that is able to give a turn by turn directions with offline map, right?

I am finding out that as the hardware gets older, the newer version of software update do not apply to the old hardware. Without the update, some of these apps stop working.

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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2017, 01:29:13 PM »
Correct, you would need an up to date google maps... which is usually pre installed with any android device.

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« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2017, 02:15:07 PM »
I did pretty well with a flip phone and a 7" Fire tablet. My flip phone died so I adopted my brother's old Samsung Intensity. I'd prefer going back to a flip phone - sometimes I'll accidentally it the ignore on the intensity button when pulling the phone out of my pocket.

My main number is with Google Voice. That forwards to my Obi200 at home, hangouts on my Fire tablet (an OK wifi speakerphone in a pinch), my cell phone, and my desk phone at work. Since I can usually make and recieve calls using other means, in the past 90 days I"ve used fewer than 200 minutes on my cell phone. Service costs me $40-$80/yr on Page Plus Cellullar. I do want a smartphone, but I'm much happier with the savings. DW has a smartphone on her brother's T-mobile family plan, so we have access to data when we are out together.

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« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2017, 03:53:58 PM »
We just never bothered getting smartphones in the first place. It's worked out great! Our flip phones are totally fine for calling people, and we have our computers for doing anything online.

Same here!

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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2017, 03:55:30 PM »
I ditched my iPhone for a Motorola and now use Ting.  The cool thing about going off a data plan and paying for usage is you leave your phone off and you can actually enjoy life without being tethered to a phone.  I couldn't switch to a flip phone because I do need GPS sometimes to find my way.  My phone cost me $60 and my plan is usually $15 per month.  I don't understand how people are willing to drop 1K on a new iPhone (especially considering most are upgrading from an iPhone that works just fine) and pay huge monthly plans.

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FYI- if you have an old smartphone still hanging around- you can download the maps of the areas you need to navigate to when you are on home wi-fi and then your smartphone with no data service can still give you turn by turn directions... so basically you can use it as a garmin :)

That is assuming there is still an app that can be installed, that is able to give a turn by turn directions with offline map, right?

I am finding out that as the hardware gets older, the newer version of software update do not apply to the old hardware. Without the update, some of these apps stop working.


I'm running Google Maps turn by turn just fine with JellyBean and no data. I'm also able to update Google Maps over wifi - still runs so far.
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Re: Trashed The iPhone Today
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2017, 07:45:45 PM »
Part of me really wants to go back to an old school Nokia phone.

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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2017, 12:15:37 AM »
OP here.    I wished I had done this earlier.   My eyesight is getting better and I'm reading more (books). 

Now I get to scoff and feel self righteous like a good MMM'er should.   ;)

It shocking and sad to see how these devices have become so tied to our daily lives.   A co worker was telling me she took her kids to Disneyland and forbid them to bring their phones.   The kids ended up bitching about it that the whole family left early and it ruined the day.

Now its starting to really freak me out that everyone I see is always carrying a phone....its crazy.   My GF is against it but I would go back to just a landland and an answering machine at this point...that would be badass! 
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« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2017, 02:50:59 AM »
This is my solution. I was about to drop cash on the new Nokia 3310, but decided that living in a new city and having GPS is such a useful tool. I can't deny that there are nice benefits to a smart phone... So, two apps really helped me with this.

The first is an app called Terribly Dumb Launcher, which does not allow me to access any of the applications on my phone except phone and texting. This created this issue of not being able to access the maps application, or other useful apps to me. So I found an inexpensive app called TUFFs that lets you pin apps to the notification bar. Now I have all the apps I actually find productive at my finger tips, but it is difficult to access any of the other apps. So far it's worked really great! If I find I revert to my old ways, I'll probably drop the $60 on the Nokia 3310 and print out my google maps like in the "old" days.






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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2017, 12:31:33 PM »
It's beyond time to think about smartphones as an addictive product, and mentally categorize them alongside nicotine, caffine, alcohol, and cocaine.

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« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2017, 09:48:45 PM »
It's beyond time to think about smartphones as an addictive product, and mentally categorize them alongside nicotine, caffine, alcohol, and cocaine.

wow... smartphone is in the same category as cocaine... just wow...

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« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2017, 09:39:10 AM »
It's beyond time to think about smartphones as an addictive product, and mentally categorize them alongside nicotine, caffine, alcohol, and cocaine.

wow... smartphone is in the same category as cocaine... just wow...

Nah, cocaine is an awful lot nicer (the pure form - not the concentrated forms) than a smartphone.  It's not constantly evolving Vegas psychology in your pocket trying to convince you to use it more and more.
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« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2017, 10:47:52 AM »
This is my solution. I was about to drop cash on the new Nokia 3310, but decided that living in a new city and having GPS is such a useful tool. I can't deny that there are nice benefits to a smart phone... So, two apps really helped me with this.

The first is an app called Terribly Dumb Launcher, which does not allow me to access any of the applications on my phone except phone and texting. This created this issue of not being able to access the maps application, or other useful apps to me. So I found an inexpensive app called TUFFs that lets you pin apps to the notification bar. Now I have all the apps I actually find productive at my finger tips, but it is difficult to access any of the other apps. So far it's worked really great! If I find I revert to my old ways, I'll probably drop the $60 on the Nokia 3310 and print out my google maps like in the "old" days.






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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bhanu.appshortcuts&hl=en

I don't understand what you're doing here.  It looks like you're buying apps to disable your phone?  Why not just get the Nokia?  You could probably sell your current phone for the cost of the Nokia.

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« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2017, 11:49:21 AM »
This is my solution. I was about to drop cash on the new Nokia 3310, but decided that living in a new city and having GPS is such a useful tool. I can't deny that there are nice benefits to a smart phone... So, two apps really helped me with this.

The first is an app called Terribly Dumb Launcher, which does not allow me to access any of the applications on my phone except phone and texting. This created this issue of not being able to access the maps application, or other useful apps to me. So I found an inexpensive app called TUFFs that lets you pin apps to the notification bar. Now I have all the apps I actually find productive at my finger tips, but it is difficult to access any of the other apps. So far it's worked really great! If I find I revert to my old ways, I'll probably drop the $60 on the Nokia 3310 and print out my google maps like in the "old" days.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.commongivinglabs.terriblydumblauncher&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bhanu.appshortcuts&hl=en

I don't understand what you're doing here.  It looks like you're buying apps to disable your phone?  Why not just get the Nokia?  You could probably sell your current phone for the cost of the Nokia.

I bought one $1.50 app using app store credit that I already had (did some surveys). The other app was free. Also $1.50 < $60, and I get to keep access to the parts of a smart phone that I find very useful but not distracting. Just a different way to skin a cat. :-)

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« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2017, 05:07:55 PM »
It's beyond time to think about smartphones as an addictive product, and mentally categorize them alongside nicotine, caffine, alcohol, and cocaine.

Im starting to read some good studies about depression and suicide rates for teens as it relates to smart phone use and social media.   

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/has-the-smartphone-destroyed-a-generation/534198/

Teens are socializing less,  not driving, having sex later,  basically adolescences is continuing into "adulthood" 

Went to a popular restaurant last night with a long wait outside.   Me and my GF decided to really pay attention  to the phone use as we waited.    EVERY party in the waiting area was on their phones or had it in hand.     

My friend is a dad to 2 teenagers.   He indicated to me it was unthinkable to take away the kid's smart phones.   There would be a "riot" as he put it.     This is not good.    IMO, smart phones create an alternate reality and I really hope to raise some warning flags to people.   
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« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2017, 05:15:14 PM »
It's beyond time to think about smartphones as an addictive product, and mentally categorize them alongside nicotine, caffine, alcohol, and cocaine.

wow... smartphone is in the same category as cocaine... just wow...

A habit is a habit.   Cue...Routine...reward.    Samsung and apple dont give a shit about providing you with a valuable tool to enrich your life.   Their main goal is to get you picking up that phone as much as possible.    With the help of FB, Instagram and Snapchat, they do quite well.

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« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2017, 06:26:36 PM »
I don't use apps like FB. They are designed to waste my time.

I DO use a LI app, though, and use it for my business to get clients. If I was 100% FIRE'd, I'd remove that, too.

It's been years since I paid for data--did I ever??--and I have no desire to go back. People are so addicted to it. I have my head up and am looking at the world. Other people are buried in their phones.






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« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2017, 08:09:36 PM »
Good job everyone who has ditched the smart phones. I still have a moto-g through republic, i think the  plan is like $16/mo plus a rebate of up to $5/mo if I dont use all the data, which I usually dont. I'm not sure I want to downsize any further, the navigational capabilities alone make it seem worthwhile to me.

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« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2017, 02:02:24 AM »
It's beyond time to think about smartphones as an addictive product, and mentally categorize them alongside nicotine, caffine, alcohol, and cocaine.

wow... smartphone is in the same category as cocaine... just wow...

A habit is a habit.   Cue...Routine...reward.    Samsung and apple dont give a shit about providing you with a valuable tool to enrich your life.   Their main goal is to get you picking up that phone as much as possible.    With the help of FB, Instagram and Snapchat, they do quite well.

I can see how smartphone can be addicted for one without self control, but on the flip side there are good things that smartphone can do.

The camera alone in smartphone make it worth for me to carry smartphone just because I do not have to carry my SLR everywhere - never know when there is a good opportunity to take pictures (dumb phone camera are not comparable). Not to mention map, books, etc and some of these apps which make me money. Kinda surprising to find people against smartphone since this is MMM, and the theme here everyone seems trying to find side hustle to make a few bucks or save some cash. imo the easiest to make save cash or make extra $ is using some apps from your smartphone - coupon apps, store apps, etc etc. Between me and my wife, we got so much free/almost free stuffs, from food, milk, soap, cleaners, tools, etc. We donate some of these.

But seriously... same category as cocaine? Which bring absolutely nothing good. A little over-the-top imo, but it's cool... you do your thing, I do mine :)

No I do not work for Apple or Samsung :)




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« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2017, 09:25:04 AM »
It's beyond time to think about smartphones as an addictive product, and mentally categorize them alongside nicotine, caffine, alcohol, and cocaine.

wow... smartphone is in the same category as cocaine... just wow...

A habit is a habit.   Cue...Routine...reward.    Samsung and apple dont give a shit about providing you with a valuable tool to enrich your life.   Their main goal is to get you picking up that phone as much as possible.    With the help of FB, Instagram and Snapchat, they do quite well.

I can see how smartphone can be addicted for one without self control, but on the flip side there are good things that smartphone can do.

The camera alone in smartphone make it worth for me to carry smartphone just because I do not have to carry my SLR everywhere - never know when there is a good opportunity to take pictures (dumb phone camera are not comparable). Not to mention map, books, etc and some of these apps which make me money. Kinda surprising to find people against smartphone since this is MMM, and the theme here everyone seems trying to find side hustle to make a few bucks or save some cash. imo the easiest to make save cash or make extra $ is using some apps from your smartphone - coupon apps, store apps, etc etc. Between me and my wife, we got so much free/almost free stuffs, from food, milk, soap, cleaners, tools, etc. We donate some of these.

But seriously... same category as cocaine? Which bring absolutely nothing good. A little over-the-top imo, but it's cool... you do your thing, I do mine :)

No I do not work for Apple or Samsung :)

True, you are the type of personality who it does not affect.    However, 90% of the rest of the world it does.   I know I found myself checking my phome for no reason when I had one.   Cocaine?  No...not really but at smart phone use does lead to depression and wasted hours....as does cocaine. 

Not sure about you but dont you find the fact everyone being tied to their phone a little disturbing and over the top these days?   

I feel pretty cool myself being the only person who doesnt have a smart phone.   

Its true that make many tasks easier to do but is that necessarily a good thing?     I can track my business miles or find the nearest McDonalds just fine without them ;)     Its making the world into a bunch of non thinking idiots IMO
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Re: Trashed The iPhone Today
« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2017, 10:16:12 AM »
True, you are the type of personality who it does not affect.

And there are certainly people out there who can "responsibly" use cocaine for years - though if I understand properly, it's mostly the bulk powder.  The concentrated stuff is scary.  It still doesn't mean that it's a good idea, and for every one person who can use it and not have it greatly impact their life, there are a ton of people who it really screws up.

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I know I found myself checking my phome for no reason when I had one.   Cocaine?  No...not really but at smart phone use does lead to depression and wasted hours....as does cocaine.

About a year ago, I went through and removed all my "oooh, I have 15 seconds..." apps.  Stuff like checking adsense earnings, quick game levels, etc.  I felt that it was not improving my life or ability to concentrate.  Always distracted, never bored.  Out of boredom comes great things.

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Not sure about you but dont you find the fact everyone being tied to their phone a little disturbing and over the top these days?

Huh?  What?  Oh, sorry, were you saying something?  I was... uh, texts... someone pinged me on Facebook to say Happy Birthday... huh?

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Its true that make many tasks easier to do but is that necessarily a good thing?     I can track my business miles or find the nearest McDonalds just fine without them ;)     Its making the world into a bunch of non thinking idiots IMO

I actually stopped using my phone as much for navigation because I had more or less lost my ability to navigate without it.  I'll look up the maps now, and maybe write down directions, but I've tried to stop relying so heavily on my phone GPS for getting around.  Not being able to find my way home without a phone is not cool.
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Re: Trashed The iPhone Today
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2017, 02:53:37 AM »
I miss street directories :(

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Re: Trashed The iPhone Today
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2017, 04:06:35 AM »
I miss street directories :(

I don't! You're too young to know about the evils of street directories. Satnav and GPS rocks.

But I finally succumbed to a second hand i phone and whilst its occasionally handy, it seems to chew up an awful lot of data. I also crave the dopamine hit from a game called Ballz. Which seems to chew up more data. All those adds downloading. I was just as easily entertained by my dumb phone and solitaire: for free.

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Re: Trashed The iPhone Today
« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2017, 05:31:47 PM »
It's beyond time to think about smartphones as an addictive product, and mentally categorize them alongside nicotine, caffine, alcohol, and cocaine.

Im starting to read some good studies about depression and suicide rates for teens as it relates to smart phone use and social media.   

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/has-the-smartphone-destroyed-a-generation/534198/

Teens are socializing less,  not driving, having sex later,  basically adolescences is continuing into "adulthood" 

Went to a popular restaurant last night with a long wait outside.   Me and my GF decided to really pay attention  to the phone use as we waited.    EVERY party in the waiting area was on their phones or had it in hand.     

My friend is a dad to 2 teenagers.   He indicated to me it was unthinkable to take away the kid's smart phones.   There would be a "riot" as he put it.     This is not good.    IMO, smart phones create an alternate reality and I really hope to raise some warning flags to people.

YES - oh my gosh, this frightens me so much about the upcoming generation. I'm only 26, so I had a cell phone relatively young (I think at age 15 or so), but it was certainly before smart phones, which didn't come out until I was in college. I distinctly remember what it was like to start texting and how that affected social groups, etc. I can only imagine what it's like to be a teen today with all the constant communication and social media sharing. It's a full time job for them to keep up with it all for the sake of their social lives, and then they don't have the energy to focus on the other aspects of their lives.

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Re: Trashed The iPhone Today
« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2017, 07:29:10 PM »
I miss street directories :(

Well I mean, if that's what you really want for Christmas I could return the other gifts... :P

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Re: Trashed The iPhone Today
« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2017, 09:49:45 PM »
I agree with alot of the comments posted above....but as the parent of 2 college-age kids, I love the ability to text and send/receive pictures with my kids.  I can send them a goofy picture of the dog and they will respond with "awe" or an emoji, and I know that they are still alive :-)   I'm not one of those parents that calls their kids everyday, but the little "touch-base" makes me feel a whole lot better. 

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Re: Trashed The iPhone Today
« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2017, 11:11:34 PM »
We just never bothered getting smartphones in the first place. It's worked out great! Our flip phones are totally fine for calling people, and we have our computers for doing anything online.

Same here!

Same here too! T9 FTW. Plus the battery life of ~3 weeks isn't shabby either.

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Re: Trashed The iPhone Today
« Reply #42 on: December 11, 2017, 05:50:05 AM »
No.  because I LOVE Audible.  I get credits every year for Christmas and my birthday and want a smart phone for that an apps.  However, using a little behavioral psychology, I have made it VERY difficult for myself to do anything else beyond text, calling and banking.  I have NO social media apps, no email apps and only use wifi except for phone calls.  B/c of this, I find myself on the phone very little.