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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #50 on: March 13, 2017, 08:00:25 AM »
Jetski.  Should have never bought it.

Rent
Funny, DH came complete with two jet skis and a trailer. They've been stored at his brother's house the four years we've been married. He brought them home yesterday so he can clean them up and sell them. Turns out he inherited them from a relative. Shoulda known.

Once he had them uncovered, they looked like they might be fun. Maybe we'll have to do a couple of test runs to make sure they're good to go before we sell them...Um, nope.

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #51 on: March 14, 2017, 07:20:09 AM »
TV
New clothes
Jewelry
Home decor items
Toothpaste


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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #52 on: March 14, 2017, 07:50:28 AM »
Buying lunch at the cafeteria at work.
Selling your car after 100.000 kms.
Cook books.
Privacy and being extremely against customer discount cards.
Being accessible on the phone all the time.
Tumble dry. Found out yesterday that laundry dries just fine on a rack.

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #53 on: March 14, 2017, 10:35:28 AM »
An iron -- just toss in the dryer for 5 minutes or hang in the bathroom during a hot shower
deodorant -- when i started cleaning up my diet and my products, I also stopped stinking so much...huh
conditioner -- just an oil based natural shampoo bar for hair and body
face cleanser -- castor oil and the oil cleansing method
so much clothes -- minimalism all the way
most decor stuff -- only the favorites need to be seen, empty spaces are fine
netflix -- use amazon video occasionally or don't watch anything at all
a meal plan -- I would buy too much and waste it because plans changed...now I just have a running stash that is standard and can be used to make dozens of meals.
a gym membership -- too much of an introvert, I hate going to the gym!
fancy dog toys -- they just use the antlers and the pull ropes anyway....
dryer sheets -- don't even notice the difference
full strength dish soap -- yup, mines watered down!
microwave -- I have a cute coffee bar now in the microwave shelf, which is much more to our liking
jewelry -- I only have a few pieces that I actually love and wear...sold the rest for scrap
craft supplies -- have gotten rid of most of them
makeup powders or concealers...
cds
air fresheners or sprays
home phone
cell phone contracts

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #54 on: March 14, 2017, 11:13:29 AM »
This forum :)

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #55 on: March 14, 2017, 11:14:32 AM »
Selling your car after 100.000 kms.

Just to let you know, you should be able to get more than 100km out of a car.

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #56 on: March 14, 2017, 11:29:35 AM »

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #57 on: March 14, 2017, 04:50:55 PM »
Selling your car after 100.000 kms.
Just to let you know, you should be able to get more than 100km out of a car.

I think that's what she's saying... she used to think you needed to sell your car, now she knows better.

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #58 on: March 15, 2017, 03:41:07 AM »
This forum :)
Because you achieved FIRE or because you gave up? 😉

I'm FIRE, but I still need this forum. I value the opportunity to share what I've learned in hopes of making someone else's journey easier.

To MJ: You bring the tinder, I'll bring the matches. Oh, wait! Don't you live in a rainy place? You bring the waterproof matches, I'll bring the dry tinder.


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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #59 on: March 15, 2017, 06:13:39 AM »
High heels
Restaurants - my hubby is an excellent cook AND does the dishes lol
Video's (now we watch Netflix, though we do have some of our 2 yr old ... mostly Diego/Dora/Barney)
Makeup everyday - now it is special occasions and then only minimal
More than one good camera - I only ever use the one now ... the other will be going up for sale.
TV - gave it up over a decade ago and don't miss General Hospital or any of the other shows I wasted my time on.
Tim Hortons coffee (now at almost $2 per large cup) - I bring instant to work and make my own.
Sugar in my coffee - over 2 years now!

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #60 on: March 15, 2017, 06:16:37 AM »
To MJ: You bring the tinder, I'll bring the matches. Oh, wait! Don't you live in a rainy place? You bring the waterproof matches, I'll bring the dry tinder.

Oh I've got Tinder, don't worry. Thinking of adding that to my list of "stuff I don't need anymore."

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #61 on: March 15, 2017, 06:31:41 AM »
Microwave
Comprehensive car insurance
Facebook

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #62 on: March 15, 2017, 09:13:41 PM »
Jewelry, new clothes, make-up, a nice purse, heels.

Wall art. Handmade decorative pillows for my couch. A couch.

A TV. Paper books. Podcasts during my walks. A music subscription.

Meat in most meals.

A college degree.

Excellent job evaluations and the praise of my managers.

A job.

(Less than one year away from proving that last one.)

How do you not need this stuff? Especially a purse, couch or heeled shoes?

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #63 on: March 16, 2017, 09:24:01 AM »
- Netflix (I literally google movies/shows and find HD streams for free from sites)
- TV (I just use my computer with monitor)
- Dryer (air dry)
- Furniture (as in buying furniture. People chuck nice stuff all the time. 85% of my apartment is free furniture other 15% I bought used)
- New devices

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #64 on: March 19, 2017, 09:26:04 AM »
Cable TV
More clothes
Cheap disposable junk for kids
Plastic grocery bags
Bottled water (installed RO system)
Restaurant food
Soda pop

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #65 on: March 19, 2017, 09:49:14 AM »
Jewelry, new clothes, make-up, a nice purse, heels.

Wall art. Handmade decorative pillows for my couch. A couch.

A TV. Paper books. Podcasts during my walks. A music subscription.

Meat in most meals.

A college degree.

Excellent job evaluations and the praise of my managers.

A job.

(Less than one year away from proving that last one.)

How do you not need this stuff? Especially a purse, couch or heeled shoes?

I use a backpack.

I sleep in the living room, so no room for a couch.

I wear sneakers or flats.

Easy peasy.

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #66 on: March 19, 2017, 10:05:52 AM »
Starbucks Tall Mocha Frappuccino Light. My stepdaughters always gave me Starbucks gift cards for Xmas and my birthday because they knew I loved them and was too cheap to buy them. Now I ask them to donate to charities instead, and I put vanilla extract in my homemade regular or iced coffee for a flavor kick.

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #67 on: March 19, 2017, 10:25:26 AM »
To MJ: You bring the tinder, I'll bring the matches. Oh, wait! Don't you live in a rainy place? You bring the waterproof matches, I'll bring the dry tinder.

Oh I've got Tinder, don't worry. Thinking of adding that to my list of "stuff I don't need anymore."
I don't have "Tinder" either, or FB or Twitter etc. Early on, when friends were giving it up for Lent, I just decided not to start. Recently, it seems I accidentally opened a FB account. I was trying to comment on a thread I'd found via a goog search. OMG, there's crap in my inbox every day with "friends" I've never heard of. Need to figure out how to escape!

Definitely stuff I don't need. Since I (mostly) never had it, I can't really say "any more"

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #68 on: March 19, 2017, 01:27:18 PM »
Jewelry, new clothes, make-up, a nice purse, heels.

Wall art. Handmade decorative pillows for my couch. A couch.

A TV. Paper books. Podcasts during my walks. A music subscription.

Meat in most meals.

A college degree.

Excellent job evaluations and the praise of my managers.

A job.

(Less than one year away from proving that last one.)

MJ, I love your list.

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #69 on: March 20, 2017, 06:06:11 AM »
Thanks 5S!

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #70 on: March 20, 2017, 06:59:52 AM »
I used to believe that you needed to eat breakfast, lunch and dinner plus snacks in between. Now I regularly fast 24 or 36 hours a few times a week. I am fasting now and don't plan on eating until Monday which will be a minimum of 60 hours of pausing my eating.

I am not doing it to save money but it has a lot of health benefits and gives you back a lot of time. My house is getting very clean today because I will keep busy so I don't think about food. :)

I'm considering adding fasting to my lifestyle. I used to try and fail miserably because I just felt so AWFUL. Then my brother told me he occasionally does a day where he does just liquids - whenever he starts feeling bad he'll drink a bit of clear juice to bring his blood sugar up. A couple weeks ago I had to go into work and because my intestines weren't tolerating any food, I just drank juice a few times in the day, and I actually got through a work day without eating! My intestines were able to recover with no lost time at work! So now I'm thinking of doing this once a fortnight.

Any tips for a fasting newbie?

 

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #71 on: March 23, 2017, 05:09:26 AM »
Jewelry, new clothes, make-up, a nice purse, heels.

Wall art. Handmade decorative pillows for my couch. A couch.

A TV. Paper books. Podcasts during my walks. A music subscription.

Meat in most meals.

A college degree.

Excellent job evaluations and the praise of my managers.

A job.

(Less than one year away from proving that last one.)

MJ, I love your list.

I was getting a hard time for my crt tv. I finally caved and got a good deal on 48" sony flat. You can also retire in a cardboard box RIGHT NOW. No reason to wait.

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #72 on: March 23, 2017, 07:20:14 AM »
Did I mention a big house already? I am thinking more and more about moving to a very small house in some years time, when my DH is ready to sell the current too big house. In the meantime I spend quite some time cleaning it.

I'm even looking at tiny houses, as you can move them on a truck. But tiny houses are probably just a bit too tiny to be practical. For me alone it could probably be enough.

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #73 on: March 23, 2017, 07:49:53 AM »
Jewelry, new clothes, make-up, a nice purse, heels.

Wall art. Handmade decorative pillows for my couch. A couch.

A TV. Paper books. Podcasts during my walks. A music subscription.

Meat in most meals.

A college degree.

Excellent job evaluations and the praise of my managers.

A job.

(Less than one year away from proving that last one.)

MJ, I love your list.

I was getting a hard time for my crt tv. I finally caved and got a good deal on 48" sony flat. You can also retire in a cardboard box RIGHT NOW. No reason to wait.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE A FLAT-SCREEN TV, WHAT'S EVEN THE POINT OF LIVING?

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #74 on: March 23, 2017, 08:54:39 AM »
Jewelry, new clothes, make-up, a nice purse, heels.

Wall art. Handmade decorative pillows for my couch. A couch.

A TV. Paper books. Podcasts during my walks. A music subscription.

Meat in most meals.

A college degree.

Excellent job evaluations and the praise of my managers.

A job.

(Less than one year away from proving that last one.)

MJ, I love your list.

I was getting a hard time for my crt tv. I finally caved and got a good deal on 48" sony flat. You can also retire in a cardboard box RIGHT NOW. No reason to wait.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE A FLAT-SCREEN TV, WHAT'S EVEN THE POINT OF LIVING?

Agreed it is not needed but I could not believe how many were giving me a  hard time here for my crt.. But it does make the living room look nice and give it some modernism in a place looks pretty old school otherwise. And speaking of living rooms -- if you're on a fold out sofa except no sofa in someone's living room that means you are pretty much homeless. Not sure if you care or what your deal is but no jewelry; make up; real shoes and backpack like some highschooler is not exactly something I would find a plus in the dating world.
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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #75 on: March 23, 2017, 10:03:32 AM »
Religion (the golden rule is all I need)
Fancy clothes and shoes (I've grown to love simplicity)
Cable (I hardly watch tv these days)
Social media (I still have Facebook to keep in touch with family)
The newest gadgets (Held off on buying any new toys for the last 3 years, which to me is an eternity)

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #76 on: March 23, 2017, 10:08:01 AM »
Thanks for breaking my fucking heart, chin stubble. Guess I'll put away this promise ring I was saving for you.

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #77 on: March 23, 2017, 11:16:18 AM »
Thanks for breaking my fucking heart, chin stubble. Guess I'll put away this promise ring I was saving for you.

Ehem that is MR Chin Stubble. And if you're ever in Queens I've got a 48 incher that I want to show you. (My new Sony TV that is).

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #78 on: March 23, 2017, 11:44:47 AM »
Thanks for breaking my fucking heart, chin stubble. Guess I'll put away this promise ring I was saving for you.

Ehem that is MR Chin Stubble. And if you're ever in Queens I've got a 48 incher that I want to show you. (My new Sony TV that is).

Get out. I live in Queens.

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #79 on: March 23, 2017, 12:56:25 PM »
Thanks for breaking my fucking heart, chin stubble. Guess I'll put away this promise ring I was saving for you.

Ehem that is MR Chin Stubble. And if you're ever in Queens I've got a 48 incher that I want to show you. (My new Sony TV that is).

Get out. I live in Queens.

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #80 on: March 23, 2017, 08:52:51 PM »
-Cable
-Second car, and a car at all for distances less than five miles
-Ziplock bags, cling wrap, kleenex, paper napkins
-Pre-mixed cleaning supplies in single-use plastic bottles
-(Come to think of it, most things in single-use plastic packaging)
-Most electric kitchen appliances
-Recipes with specific measurements
-Face scrub, cleanser, most makeup and skincare products.
-Salad dressing in a bottle, pasta sauce in a jar, frozen pizza (and pretty much any kind of boxed or pre-prepared food.)
-Dry cleaning

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #81 on: March 23, 2017, 10:13:49 PM »
The approval of others.

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #82 on: March 23, 2017, 10:23:36 PM »
Thanks for breaking my fucking heart, chin stubble. Guess I'll put away this promise ring I was saving for you.

Ehem that is MR Chin Stubble. And if you're ever in Queens I've got a 48 incher that I want to show you. (My new Sony TV that is).

Get out. I live in Queens.

Oo cool cheap mustache date

Too bad I'm hopelessly plain.

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #83 on: March 23, 2017, 10:28:54 PM »
Thanks for breaking my fucking heart, chin stubble. Guess I'll put away this promise ring I was saving for you.

Ehem that is MR Chin Stubble. And if you're ever in Queens I've got a 48 incher that I want to show you. (My new Sony TV that is).

Get out. I live in Queens.

Oo cool cheap mustache date

Too bad I'm hopelessly plain.

And you carry a practical, economical, ergonomically-designed bag instead of a purse. The kiss of death to any romance!

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #84 on: March 24, 2017, 07:19:31 AM »
Thanks for breaking my fucking heart, chin stubble. Guess I'll put away this promise ring I was saving for you.

Ehem that is MR Chin Stubble. And if you're ever in Queens I've got a 48 incher that I want to show you. (My new Sony TV that is).

Get out. I live in Queens.

Oo cool cheap mustache date

Too bad I'm hopelessly plain.

Well you're going to hang out with me and change all of that; Meet at guitar center and watch me rock out; it's going to be nice this weekend so a motorcycle ride isin order. Anything beats being homeless and pretending you're going to change the world by going up against billion dollar well oiled political machine with some stupid picket sign. And yeah maybe watch a movie on my big screen tv. (I think I had a 50% savings rate or close to it if you count my 2016 bonus in 2016 instead of now.)
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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #85 on: March 24, 2017, 07:23:03 AM »
Thanks for breaking my fucking heart, chin stubble. Guess I'll put away this promise ring I was saving for you.

Ehem that is MR Chin Stubble. And if you're ever in Queens I've got a 48 incher that I want to show you. (My new Sony TV that is).

Get out. I live in Queens.

Oo cool cheap mustache date

Too bad I'm hopelessly plain.

And you carry a practical, economical, ergonomically-designed bag instead of a purse. The kiss of death to any romance!
It's an immature look. face the facts. You wouldn't date some guy who was in his late 30s to 50s that still wore a Hollister logo emblazned across the front of his shirt (or whatever trendy highschool thing is en vogue now).

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #86 on: March 24, 2017, 07:23:35 AM »
Until you learn the difference between "you're" and "your", MJ will be a lost cause.

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #87 on: March 24, 2017, 07:29:08 AM »
Until you learn the difference between "you're" and "your", MJ will be a lost cause.

No comprende I said you're and am using it correctly as the contraction between you and are. I edited at time stamp 7:21 and your post at 7:23 and never bothered to read  it
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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #88 on: March 24, 2017, 07:37:45 AM »
Personally, I need all the things you guys say you do not need.  You skip yours and I will keep my soap, showers, toaster, dryer, and second car.
What I do not need is the latest I phone - my 5s works fine.

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #89 on: March 24, 2017, 07:54:37 AM »
chin stubble, you're just being rude. Forum rule #1, dude.

In the interests of being on topic, I will add to my previous list:

Alcohol
Coffee

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #90 on: March 24, 2017, 08:31:02 AM »
Personally, I need all the things you guys say you do not need.  You skip yours and I will keep my soap, showers, toaster, dryer, and second car.
What I do not need is the latest I phone - my 5s works fine.

I kinda agree.

soap .... Yes (it costs < $1 and I always liked Irish Spring so why not. even before this whole "organic bullsh*t and paying 10 dollars for some hipster to make soap)

shower ... Need 'em

toaster ... that might have been mine and do not need

dryer ... do not need and I have to have a gas one in my building so f that. Laundromat is close. Otherwise hand-washing a few items and line drying in my attic is pretty easy and doesn't shrink clothes that are the perfect fit. I also do wash and fold for work shirts since whenever I do it they are wrinkled even before I get to work sometimes.

second car... what the ....

Iphone... I have a 6 which I guess I don't "need" but since my 4 was pretty much hammered why not?

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #91 on: March 24, 2017, 08:54:39 AM »
And you carry a practical, economical, ergonomically-designed bag instead of a purse. The kiss of death to any romance!
It's an immature look. face the facts. You wouldn't date some guy who was in his late 30s to 50s that still wore a Hollister logo emblazned across the front of his shirt (or whatever trendy highschool thing is en vogue now).

Immature? I think you've got it backwards. When I was in high school I carried a cute little purse because that's what you're supposed to do. Then when I was an adult I started carrying a small, compact backpack, because I'm a grown person who realized that purses are impractical and not ergonomic, and are mainly used as a way to show off how much money you have by wearing some idiotic designer's overpriced product. Backpacks are not "a trendy highschool thing." They're a comfortable way to carry things. High school and college kids use them because they have to carry a lot of books, not because they're trendy.

I could not care any less about what another human wears as long as they are happy with it and it is clean and not overtly offensive in some way.

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #92 on: March 24, 2017, 09:11:42 AM »
And you carry a practical, economical, ergonomically-designed bag instead of a purse. The kiss of death to any romance!
It's an immature look. face the facts. You wouldn't date some guy who was in his late 30s to 50s that still wore a Hollister logo emblazned across the front of his shirt (or whatever trendy highschool thing is en vogue now).

Immature? I think you've got it backwards. When I was in high school I carried a cute little purse because that's what you're supposed to do. Then when I was an adult I started carrying a small, compact backpack, because I'm a grown person who realized that purses are impractical and not ergonomic, and are mainly used as a way to show off how much money you have by wearing some idiotic designer's overpriced product. Backpacks are not "a trendy highschool thing." They're a comfortable way to carry things. High school and college kids use them because they have to carry a lot of books, not because they're trendy.

I could not care any less about what another human wears as long as they are happy with it and it is clean and not overtly offensive in some way.
To attract practically-minded Mustachians of the opposite sex, I always make sure to leave the house with matching packback, cargo shorts, and fanny pack.

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #93 on: March 24, 2017, 09:37:07 AM »
Thanks for breaking my fucking heart, chin stubble. Guess I'll put away this promise ring I was saving for you.

Ehem that is MR Chin Stubble. And if you're ever in Queens I've got a 48 incher that I want to show you. (My new Sony TV that is).

Get out. I live in Queens.

Oo cool cheap mustache date

Too bad I'm hopelessly plain.

And you carry a practical, economical, ergonomically-designed bag instead of a purse. The kiss of death to any romance!
It's an immature look. face the facts. You wouldn't date some guy who was in his late 30s to 50s that still wore a Hollister logo emblazned across the front of his shirt (or whatever trendy highschool thing is en vogue now).

Well, I married a guy who routinely carries his stuff in a backpack in his 30s. Neither of us realized that a fancy leather wallet was a requirement for adulthood, so he strikes out on that one too.

I don't wear makeup, at his preference as well as my own, rarely wear high heels, and am normally lugging my stuff around in a bike pannier rather than a purse. So, there goes your theory that not having those things = not being attractive to men. I mean, if I'm not attractive then he's been doing a really good job of fooling me these past ten years!

It's like...it's like not all men are as shallow as this disdain is making you seem! Crazy, right?
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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #94 on: March 24, 2017, 09:41:52 AM »
You're right, MJ. Definitely not humor.

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #95 on: March 24, 2017, 09:44:16 AM »
It's not exactly sexy.

Well there's the crux of the issue right there.  You want a mate that dresses and presents herself in a certain way (sexy), and you dress and present yourself in such a way as to attract those sexy girls. 

Maybe, just maybe, other people don't share those values with you.  Hard to grok, I know.  But there it is. 

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #96 on: March 24, 2017, 09:49:41 AM »
MOD NOTE: Thanks to everyone who reported and for looking out for each other. Mr. Chin Stubble has been banned for violating a couple of our forum rules. 

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #97 on: March 27, 2017, 05:06:52 AM »
Nothing wrong with using a backpack.

What, are you going to pay for a plastic bag to carry groceries?!

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #98 on: March 27, 2017, 08:19:50 AM »
MOD NOTE: Thanks to everyone who reported and for looking out for each other. Mr. Chin Stubble has been banned for violating a couple of our forum rules. 

I'm sort of going to miss him, he was a perfect example of the "accepted way of doing things" that we strive to examine and question here.

(And I almost hate to admit it here, but I use a purse, not a backpack.  $40 worth of purse which suits me perfectly.)

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Re: Things you used to think you needed, but didn't
« Reply #99 on: March 28, 2017, 07:58:06 PM »
milk in the coffee