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Re: Say it with me--I am not my countertops
« Reply #100 on: February 13, 2018, 02:09:02 PM »
I am actually going to try to DIY as much as possible a new kitchen. Current configuration does not have dishwasher, plus the oven and fridge are right next to each other, and very little counter space.

I could use the existing quartz countertop we put in 19 years ago, but then it wouldn't match the rest of the countertop that needs to be added. The cheapest would be to add different countertop and cabs I need to fill it. For example go to reuse stores and find extra pieces of granite. The thing is, I kind of don't like granite. I like it fine in other people's houses, but it's not me. I also don't know if the non matching of the countertop would bug me. Gah.

What would people rather do, have countertops that are not continuous/same color but are good materials (quartz and granite?) Or get a nice looking formica that is continuous?
The cabinets I'm not as concerned about. I'm thinking for less money I can replace doors if need be for matching purposes.

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Re: Say it with me--I am not my countertops
« Reply #101 on: February 13, 2018, 02:09:33 PM »
We just replaced our "20-year-old broken-white-tile countertops with disgusting grout" with laminate/Formica and replaced our "10-year-old cheapest model at Home Depot" dishwasher with a Bosch and I am so so so happy.

It's so easy to wipe down/sanitize the counters now, and the dishwasher is so quiet I have to look at the display to make sure it is even running.

And now I need to repaint the kitchen and most of the house too, but eh, later...
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Re: Say it with me--I am not my countertops
« Reply #102 on: February 13, 2018, 04:31:20 PM »
I am actually going to try to DIY as much as possible a new kitchen. Current configuration does not have dishwasher, plus the oven and fridge are right next to each other, and very little counter space.

I could use the existing quartz countertop we put in 19 years ago, but then it wouldn't match the rest of the countertop that needs to be added. The cheapest would be to add different countertop and cabs I need to fill it. For example go to reuse stores and find extra pieces of granite. The thing is, I kind of don't like granite. I like it fine in other people's houses, but it's not me. I also don't know if the non matching of the countertop would bug me. Gah.

What would people rather do, have countertops that are not continuous/same color but are good materials (quartz and granite?) Or get a nice looking formica that is continuous?
The cabinets I'm not as concerned about. I'm thinking for less money I can replace doors if need be for matching purposes.

I've seen a mix of quartz & wood or granite & wood that looks nice.  Look on pinterest for images that might look like what you're describing.

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Re: Say it with me--I am not my countertops
« Reply #103 on: February 13, 2018, 11:09:15 PM »
I am actually going to try to DIY as much as possible a new kitchen. Current configuration does not have dishwasher, plus the oven and fridge are right next to each other, and very little counter space.

I could use the existing quartz countertop we put in 19 years ago, but then it wouldn't match the rest of the countertop that needs to be added. The cheapest would be to add different countertop and cabs I need to fill it. For example go to reuse stores and find extra pieces of granite. The thing is, I kind of don't like granite. I like it fine in other people's houses, but it's not me. I also don't know if the non matching of the countertop would bug me. Gah.

What would people rather do, have countertops that are not continuous/same color but are good materials (quartz and granite?) Or get a nice looking formica that is continuous?
The cabinets I'm not as concerned about. I'm thinking for less money I can replace doors if need be for matching purposes.

I think it really depends on the plan of the kitchen and where the new bits need to be added. Also whether or not you really care about the aesthetics of your kitchen and how attached you are to the quartz.

You can definitely use two different countertop materials in the same kitchen and make it look purposeful. I often helped clients that picked a different material/colour for an island bench for example. Like @Carrie suggested, wood and some kind of stone was popular, also popular was quartz for the main prep bench since it is more practical and a natural stone such as marble for the island.  If the two materials will join, it is much harder to make it look purposeful. I did it a few times by adding a slightly raised or overlapping element (typically in timber and at a section of bench where one might eat) but again, it would depend completely on the layout of the kitchen.

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Re: Say it with me--I am not my countertops
« Reply #104 on: February 14, 2018, 05:43:32 AM »
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Most upscale houses around here don't have granite anymore. Quartz, marble, poured concrete. Granite is so "builder grade"

I found granite to be just about the cheapest option there was.  I confess I didn't price out DIY laminate, though.

DIY laminate just cost us under $600 last month

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Re: Say it with me--I am not my countertops
« Reply #105 on: February 14, 2018, 07:14:53 AM »
I am actually going to try to DIY as much as possible a new kitchen. Current configuration does not have dishwasher, plus the oven and fridge are right next to each other, and very little counter space.

I could use the existing quartz countertop we put in 19 years ago, but then it wouldn't match the rest of the countertop that needs to be added. The cheapest would be to add different countertop and cabs I need to fill it. For example go to reuse stores and find extra pieces of granite. The thing is, I kind of don't like granite. I like it fine in other people's houses, but it's not me. I also don't know if the non matching of the countertop would bug me. Gah.

What would people rather do, have countertops that are not continuous/same color but are good materials (quartz and granite?) Or get a nice looking formica that is continuous?
The cabinets I'm not as concerned about. I'm thinking for less money I can replace doors if need be for matching purposes.

What about all butcher block countertops? Or butcher block in the areas that need repairing? My husband and I went back and forth (and back and forth) all butcher block vs all quartz before we decided on a mix of the two.  The butcher block would have been easy to order and DIY and would have cost less than the quartz, but the mix was a compromise. 
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Re: Say it with me--I am not my countertops
« Reply #106 on: February 14, 2018, 08:31:45 AM »
I like butcher block, but I know the area that will be added on, will surround the oven (either start to the left of stove and then jog 90 degrees along the wall, or existing countertop, stove, new countertop, then stove. I know the 2nd would look weird. The first I'm not sure of butcher block being next to a stove. 

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« Reply #107 on: February 14, 2018, 09:01:21 AM »
I like butcher block, but I know the area that will be added on, will surround the oven (either start to the left of stove and then jog 90 degrees along the wall, or existing countertop, stove, new countertop, then stove. I know the 2nd would look weird. The first I'm not sure of butcher block being next to a stove.

I've seen it plenty kitchens on Pinterest with the butcher block next to the stove.  It looks nice. I don't think it would look weird to have a piece of the original counter top behind the stove, I think most materials and colors go with the wood look.   
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Re: Say it with me--I am not my countertops
« Reply #108 on: February 14, 2018, 11:24:14 AM »
Our kitchen was 25 years old, chosen by the previous owners.  The cabinets are good quality, solid wood dove tailed etc., cherry and we had already changed the hardware and tiled the floor a few years ago.  I wanted to diy the counters and backsplash and read many blogs about doing it.   It took a couple years before I convinced DH that I can do it!  So 2 years ago I skim coated our laminate countertops with stained concrete (the product is called Henry featherfinish) and sealed them with a food-grade high quality sealer (Buddy Rhodes matte finish).  It looks like soapstone which was what I originally wanted, but didn't like the price!   There were mixed reviews of how it held up, I'm happy to report that it has held up exceptionally well and I attribute that to the sealer.  I use my kitchen ALOT and no issues over 2 years in!  We learned to do the tile backsplash, my dad got us started showed us the ropes, and let us borrow his wet saw.  I measured and marked and DH cut and I laid the tile and grouted etc.  I think it came out great and cost very little but totally updated the look of the kitchen. I was originally planning on painting the cabinets, but without the presence of blue counters and backsplash the warm tone of the wood is now pleasing to me and isn't so orange.  We also installed pendant lights into the recessed lighting,  found these at Lowes, they just screw in like light bulbs!  I do like the look of stainless steel appliances, but I agree that the finger prints are super annoying to stay on top of.  The appliances were all purchased on clearance or ding & dent over the years as needed. 

 Before and after pic attached:!
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« Reply #109 on: February 14, 2018, 12:07:44 PM »
that looks good!

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« Reply #110 on: February 14, 2018, 02:01:54 PM »
Thanks partgypsy!!!

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« Reply #111 on: February 14, 2018, 04:39:31 PM »
Wow, nice work!  You are badass doing the countertops!

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« Reply #112 on: February 15, 2018, 08:48:15 AM »
Aww thanks rosarugosa!  It feels really good and makes me proud to diy and save money!

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« Reply #113 on: February 17, 2018, 09:59:52 AM »
We just bought a new place and I thought for a second about quartz or granite before the giant price tag slapped some sense into me.  We ended up going with oak butcher block -- having it installed today.  It cost us $179 per 8-foot long block and we needed two of these to cover all our counters.  Add in the installation fee and it's about $600 for the whole kitchen.  Plus once I slap some polyurethane on it, it will take on this lovely golden-tone.  I've always loved the look of wood, so this is my dream counter.  We'll even have enough butcher block left over to make a large cutting board.

I did an update on my kitchen a couple of years ago, and went with a high end laminate that I like, but kind of wish I had gone with a softer gray colour. It is black with white veins running through it. I bet the butcher block is beautiful.

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Re: Say it with me--I am not my countertops
« Reply #114 on: February 18, 2018, 10:04:55 AM »
I like to say, "if people notice your countertops the food isn't good enough".
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« Reply #115 on: February 18, 2018, 01:10:53 PM »
I can talk at length now about kitchen countertops. Watch me!

We are just finishing up a $7,500 face lift of our kitchen, swapping in a new stove, new quartz countertops, tile backsplash, repainting all cabinets. Dh is installing the tile so that is not very expensive. The lions share was $5,300 for quartz countertop. I chose plain jane grey, it looks like a shiney cement. It is very utilitarian looking.

While we can easily afford anything,  I went round and round about material. I really love granite, that is, many of them. I dont like the type I call “polka dot” which doesnt have a sweeping rhythmic movement althpugh I DO like the tiny grain granite, the kind that usually is black and sparkles like glitter. Ultimately I love the look and idea of solid stone and the quartz I ended up with kind of skeeves me out if I think about it because it is manmade and it is too much like cultured marble, remember that chit? So, I do not allow myself to,think of it that way. I pretend my countop is slate, or sometimes cement.

Surprisingly, our savvy sales guy showed me a granite in my grey/cream color range that was very pretty,cheaper than the quartz by a decent amount, and it also had fair sweeps of veining. It was not polka dot, it was more circley.

  But in the end I did not want that distracting swirly granite, I wanted peaceful, quiet plainness. Having had grey formica for 25 years, grey quartz seemed comfortable. Somewhere in there I considered the quartz that everyone is getting, the one that mimcs marble and decided against it as too busy and trendy.

Then I saw a slab of “quartzite” which is solid stone, and loved that. loved it! Gorgeous! But could not bring myself to spend that much, around $11,000 especially since that meant fussing for another several hours over pattern layoit.

I think that is what ultimately made my decision about this plain jane quartz—there was no pattern to match  up or track. I have limited patience for shopping for certain things and by the time I had spent half a day on countertops, I was done!

I did look at recycled glass online but that was a very modern look, and our kitchen is Victorian.

Tl;dr I love granite the material! I got quartz because it was simpler. Oth in look and process. What I really wanted was cherry wood countertops but DH would not hear of that.
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« Reply #116 on: February 18, 2018, 01:19:24 PM »
One thing that is cool about our obsessive focus on kitchen finishes is that when we install a new kitchen in our weekend house next year  I will be “up” on tile and countertop material.

Right now I am planning a yellow and red kitchen there and I think I will have red formica countertops. Our weekend house is in a tiny tourist town, and granite is not a requirement in that real estate market.

What do ya’ll think of Red countertops?!! Like from the 50’s doncha know.

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« Reply #117 on: February 18, 2018, 03:10:24 PM »
Is it just me, or has this thread about not being your countertops been chock full of examples of people spending thousands on countertops but then justifying it because they didn't spend thousands more than the thousands they spent?  I think your post is counter what you meant it to be.

"Updated" your kitchen?  That is a marketing idea. You might need to repair broken things in your kitchen, but it doesn't need updated.

If you sold your house after spending this money and made a real profit off of your improvements to your kitchen, then I guess you can brag on here. 

Let's call changing out functional household items for more expensive household items what it is... spendypants spending.  Which you are free to do.  But saying you only spent $10k instead of $25k on something that didn't need replaced in the first place isn't really a mustachian move.

If I made a post about 'updating' my car, or just really wanting to different color car so I bought a newer one, I'd get face punched off this forum.

On the other hand, I'm happy that some of you managed to spend less money than you could have when you decided to change your kitchens so you'd like them better.
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Re: Say it with me--I am not my countertops
« Reply #118 on: February 18, 2018, 03:46:34 PM »
Well, my guy who is helping me, did granite countertops in his kitchen, and the material only cost 450. He thinks I can get new granite for either 450 or 600. Its cheaper bc it's 3/4 inch versus being a thicker slab, and is dependent in their stock. I'm going to check out place tomorrow. Decided to move stove to outside wall, so can have range hood that vents outside. Exciting! I'm still going to try to reuse existing cabinetry. It's not the best, but still has some life. I did a calculator a cliq studios, and if I replaced them the cost would be 5-6k. Too much.

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« Reply #119 on: February 19, 2018, 07:25:39 AM »
Is it just me, or has this thread about not being your countertops been chock full of examples of people spending thousands on countertops but then justifying it because they didn't spend thousands more than the thousands they spent?  I think your post is counter what you meant it to be.

"Updated" your kitchen?  That is a marketing idea. You might need to repair broken things in your kitchen, but it doesn't need updated.

If you sold your house after spending this money and made a real profit off of your improvements to your kitchen, then I guess you can brag on here. 

Let's call changing out functional household items for more expensive household items what it is... spendypants spending.  Which you are free to do.  But saying you only spent $10k instead of $25k on something that didn't need replaced in the first place isn't really a mustachian move.

If I made a post about 'updating' my car, or just really wanting to different color car so I bought a newer one, I'd get face punched off this forum.

On the other hand, I'm happy that some of you managed to spend less money than you could have when you decided to change your kitchens so you'd like them better.

If you are adressing me, YASS Baby!!! My spending was spendypants indeed. I am heading for Die Broke country which is my goal.

 It actually bugs me a lot that quartz, a manmade materiat is so freekin expensive.Granite costs I can understand because it is natural as well as beautiful, most of them anyway.

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Re: Say it with me--I am not my countertops
« Reply #120 on: February 19, 2018, 07:29:06 AM »
I am definitely my countertops.
For 15 years I was 70s-style, gold, formica laminate. Cheap, adequate.
Now I am partly warm butcher-block wood (the counters proper) and partly polished granite (like the kitchen island).
It's fun to be shiny, durable, with fascinating details created thousands of years ago in the fires of tectonic  . . . something.

Glad to have waited until the stash accumulated to burst out of the formica cocoon, though.


I adore granite because I am a bit of a geology nerd (cooking/eating on an ancient rock that was created inside a volcano, yes please), and it's very pretty. My apartment has granite, and I'll miss it when I move if the new place doesn't have it. That said, there are a lot of very ugly/boring granites out there.

Like first post, I lived with dingy formica for 25 years until our stash was complete.

I do miss the idea of standing over a handsome granite counter, obsessing about the swirls and veins and patterns. I know I would, haved loved that. It was that just, for me, the overall busyness of the granites i loved overwhelmed the overall look of the kitchen.

Maybe I will get a really pretty granite cutting board. Hmmmm.
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Re: Say it with me--I am not my countertops
« Reply #121 on: February 20, 2018, 03:15:33 PM »
I like butcher block, but I know the area that will be added on, will surround the oven (either start to the left of stove and then jog 90 degrees along the wall, or existing countertop, stove, new countertop, then stove. I know the 2nd would look weird. The first I'm not sure of butcher block being next to a stove.

I’ve got butcher block next to the stove. It’s fine.

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Re: Say it with me--I am not my countertops
« Reply #122 on: February 20, 2018, 03:23:14 PM »
Is it just me, or has this thread about not being your countertops been chock full of examples of people spending thousands on countertops but then justifying it because they didn't spend thousands more than the thousands they spent?  I think your post is counter what you meant it to be.

"Updated" your kitchen?  That is a marketing idea. You might need to repair broken things in your kitchen, but it doesn't need updated.

If you sold your house after spending this money and made a real profit off of your improvements to your kitchen, then I guess you can brag on here. 

Let's call changing out functional household items for more expensive household items what it is... spendypants spending.  Which you are free to do.  But saying you only spent $10k instead of $25k on something that didn't need replaced in the first place isn't really a mustachian move.

If I made a post about 'updating' my car, or just really wanting to different color car so I bought a newer one, I'd get face punched off this forum.

On the other hand, I'm happy that some of you managed to spend less money than you could have when you decided to change your kitchens so you'd like them better.

Well, my kitchen was built in 1960, and it wasn’t the deluxe version even then. So, indeed, many things were actually falling apart, plus everything was in the wrong darned place.

I cooked in the old kitchen for 20 years, so indeed I didn’t “need” a new one, but I’m getting a lot more enjoyment out of my kitchen than I would any amount of travel. YMMV

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Re: Say it with me--I am not my countertops
« Reply #123 on: February 20, 2018, 07:04:41 PM »
Indeed, we each one of use gets to choose priorities.  I haven't spent money traveling in the past 11 years, but I have cooked 365 days /year in my kitchen that whole time.  I believe if I spent $3000 updating the floor-tile countertops, 1/2 grout joints, with sonething easier to clean, that I would spend zero time regretting it. The only reason I'm hesitant to spend $6000 updating it is that I'm not sure how long we'll stay here in this house. If it's 4 years, I may be sorry I went with more expensive reno, if we're here another 11, then I'll regret I didn't get exactly what I wanted.

Always, always amazes me how travel can be a five digit budget item and not get a second glance but a countertop redo for the same cost is untenable.