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Repaired my Chain Link Fence
« on: January 18, 2017, 06:04:50 PM »
This might be small potatoes for some people, but I am pretty thrilled with myself.

When we bought this new house, we didn't realize how bad the chain-link fence was.  It was almost invisible due to overgrowth.  When we cleaned up the yard, it became apparent that the fence wasn't in great shape.  Most of the fence was "fine" but the front of the fence with both gates was almost entirely rusted through at the bottom of each post.  Then we had hurricane Matthew, which knocked some trees over the fence and completely ripped one gate and its posts off.

I used logs and other items to create a temporary barrier.  We have dogs and the fenced in backyard was a major need.  We called a couple fence companies, which was a hassle in itself because of storm damage increasing their demand.  We got quotes for replacing the fence with wood, replacing it with vinyl, and repairing it.  All the quotes were high.  To make matters worse, my wife was really saying that if we were going to spend any significant amount of money on the fence, then we should really replace it because of the age.  We discussed spending $4000-$5000 on this project.

After some talking, we both agreed that it would be best if I could fix it myself.  I figured, "how bad could this be?"  I talked with my dad, and he's done this before and knows what to do.  He came over.  After some investigation, we determined that 6 poles needed complete replacement.  The chain screen in some areas was ruined and needed replacement.  A few top-rails needed to be cut/replaced.  And, both gates were completely rusted and not salvageable.  This was more than I thought we would need to do.  I even said it might not be worth it.

"Nonsense," said my father, "it's going to cost nothing compared to having someone else do it."

I swear, for someone with a $60k truck loan and a 200 mile/day commute, he has a buried mustachian inside.

We could reuse much of the hardware, which saved a little.  We ran out and grabbed the new fence materials and concrete.  Total cost was a bit over $300.  My dad insisted on paying and refused my attempts to pay or pay him back.  I didn't expect that.  I still consider is a $300 project, because I was/am willing and able to pay for it.

The first day was tear-down.  We dug out the old posts.  Set the new posts and poured the concrete.  It took a while.  Lots of sweat equity.  There were way more roots than I expected. Plus, removing a post that's broken off right below ground level and is cemented into the ground is about as easy as you might expect.  We did end up placing one of the new posts slightly too far (gate wouldn't latch), and had to move it the next day.

The next afternoon was just stripping usable hardware off the old fence parts, cutting some top-rail to match, attaching hardware and new screens.  It wasn't without minor hiccups, but the time was worth it.  Now I have a functional fence and easy to open gates on both sides of the house.

My only worry?  My city wants black fence.  Now I might have to ruin my beautiful new fence by spray-painting it black (just the part visible from the road).

I was able to repair this for less than 10% of the amount we originally considered spending.  Actually, thanks to my dad, I was able to repair it for free.

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Re: Repaired my Chain Link Fence
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2017, 06:08:16 PM »
That's awesome. Well done for taking on the task and increasing your skill set. I haven't done much to my chain link fence, but when the time comes, I have just a little more reason to do it myself.

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Re: Repaired my Chain Link Fence
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2017, 06:49:25 PM »
I love reading/hearing stories like this.  I find myself making the "no time" excuse sometimes and paying someone to do these sorts of projects... the terrible irony is that I will have spent 8-10 hours reading these forums that week. I spend so much time reading about how to save money that I run out of daylight to do it! Thanks for the much needed motivation!

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Re: Repaired my Chain Link Fence
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2017, 07:15:03 AM »

I swear, for someone with a $60k truck loan and a 200 mile/day commute, he has a buried mustachian inside.



You, sir are a genuine badass and this is my vote for best quote of the day!


My only worry?  My city wants black fence.  Now I might have to ruin my beautiful new fence by spray-painting it black (just the part visible from the road).

Since you didn't actually replace it, maybe you can wiggle around this. WTF? If you should be forced to paint it (arrrrgh!), it might be cheaper to rent a sprayer than burn through multiple cans of spray paint. You may want to prime it first for durability.

Ugh! Spray painting chain link fences black? Who came up with that rule? Are you in an HOA? I thought all the crazy rules were in CA!

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Re: Repaired my Chain Link Fence
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2017, 04:04:25 PM »
Yeah, the black fence thing is crazy.  I don't have an HOA.  It is a city thing.  I have a friend who works in code-enforcement, and I am going to ask him how seriously they take it.  The whole fence should be black, but the city really doesn't do more than drive by.  If the visible parts are black, they don't check the rest.  The previous owner had installed a grey fence and sprayed the front part black.  I don't want to do that, personally, until/unless it is demanded.  I want to check with the friend in code-enforcement to make sure they won't demand the whole fence be painted if they catch the front.  If they would, it would be safer to just hit the visible part before it gets noticed.

We have a bunch of crazy city rules including: no trash cans visible from the street, lawns below a certain length, no commercial vehicles parked on the property, no visible boats/RVs on the property, etc.  It makes for nice looking houses and keeps the property values stable.  It is a pain in the butt sometimes.  The last time I put up a fence (at the old house, I installed a vinyl fence) the city demanded that I plant bushes every four feet along with visible edge of the fence to "obscure" the view from the road.  Yeah, a 2 foot bush obscuring the view of the 6 foot high white fence.  LOL

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Re: Repaired my Chain Link Fence
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2017, 11:15:52 PM »
Yeah, the black fence thing is crazy.  I don't have an HOA.  It is a city thing.  I have a friend who works in code-enforcement, and I am going to ask him how seriously they take it.  The whole fence should be black, but the city really doesn't do more than drive by.  If the visible parts are black, they don't check the rest.  The previous owner had installed a grey fence and sprayed the front part black.  I don't want to do that, personally, until/unless it is demanded.  I want to check with the friend in code-enforcement to make sure they won't demand the whole fence be painted if they catch the front.  If they would, it would be safer to just hit the visible part before it gets noticed.

We have a bunch of crazy city rules including: no trash cans visible from the street, lawns below a certain length, no commercial vehicles parked on the property, no visible boats/RVs on the property, etc.  It makes for nice looking houses and keeps the property values stable.  It is a pain in the butt sometimes.  The last time I put up a fence (at the old house, I installed a vinyl fence) the city demanded that I plant bushes every four feet along with visible edge of the fence to "obscure" the view from the road.  Yeah, a 2 foot bush obscuring the view of the 6 foot high white fence.  LOL

OMG, I live in a very HCOLA city that doesn't do shit for code enforcement. They don't initiate anything unless someone complains and even then they rarely take action.  This POS is down the street from me and the city won't do a damn thing about it. Believe me, this is a great photo. There are normally at least two more vehicles parked in front, and often another across the street. Visible boat? Check. Trash cans? Check. See that pile of bricks? It's been there for over a year and yes, that is a a public easement. Just for laughs, Zillow says this dump is worth $793k.

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9160266,-122.078413,3a,75y,88.08h,76.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1QPOZq27pYELf6jfm3yP2A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

So as much as your code enforcement is a PITA, based on this new information, it sounds like there is some good that comes from it. I think I'd just go ahead and paint the front so you don't get a complaint and be required to paint the whole thing.

Just for grins, I asked DH, who is a painting contractor, about your fence. (Seriously, his job title is Specialty Surfaces Specialist. He paints big shit.) He says best practice is to get a 10 x 15 drop cloth (or two or three, depending on the length of your fence), hang it over one side and spray it with an airless sprayer. Use DTM (direct to metal) Latex Black. With that paint, you don't need to prime first. If there is existing paint on the fence, he says to power wash or brush off with a wire brush first. After prepping and spraying, let the paint dry completely, then switch the drop cloth(s) to the other side and repeat the process. Do not use plastic, because it will stick to the fence.

Wouldn't hurt to try CL for used, clean-ish drop cloths, 'cause they're going to end up with a lot of black paint on them. OTOH, he says new ones aren't that expensive, and might be faster if you're trying to stay ahead of code enforcement.  Hope that helps!


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Re: Repaired my Chain Link Fence
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2017, 01:37:55 AM »
Yeah, the black fence thing is crazy.  I don't have an HOA.  It is a city thing.  I have a friend who works in code-enforcement, and I am going to ask him how seriously they take it.  The whole fence should be black, but the city really doesn't do more than drive by.  If the visible parts are black, they don't check the rest.  The previous owner had installed a grey fence and sprayed the front part black.  I don't want to do that, personally, until/unless it is demanded.  I want to check with the friend in code-enforcement to make sure they won't demand the whole fence be painted if they catch the front.  If they would, it would be safer to just hit the visible part before it gets noticed.

We have a bunch of crazy city rules including: no trash cans visible from the street,

I imagine it's no fun to be a garbage man in this locations.

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Re: Repaired my Chain Link Fence
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2017, 03:13:01 PM »
Yeah, the black fence thing is crazy.  I don't have an HOA.  It is a city thing.  I have a friend who works in code-enforcement, and I am going to ask him how seriously they take it.  The whole fence should be black, but the city really doesn't do more than drive by.  If the visible parts are black, they don't check the rest.  The previous owner had installed a grey fence and sprayed the front part black.  I don't want to do that, personally, until/unless it is demanded.  I want to check with the friend in code-enforcement to make sure they won't demand the whole fence be painted if they catch the front.  If they would, it would be safer to just hit the visible part before it gets noticed.

We have a bunch of crazy city rules including: no trash cans visible from the street,

I imagine it's no fun to be a garbage man in this locations.

Trash day the cans can go down after dusk the day before, and should be brought back up by dusk the next day. In fairness, it is a very tolerant policy and works for nearly any work schedule. They are also pretty forgiving. Usually, they just swing by and 'remind' you of the rule. They only go to fines if you refuse to correct it or get caught repeatedly.

Yeah, the black fence thing is crazy.  I don't have an HOA.  It is a city thing.  I have a friend who works in code-enforcement, and I am going to ask him how seriously they take it.  The whole fence should be black, but the city really doesn't do more than drive by.  If the visible parts are black, they don't check the rest.  The previous owner had installed a grey fence and sprayed the front part black.  I don't want to do that, personally, until/unless it is demanded.  I want to check with the friend in code-enforcement to make sure they won't demand the whole fence be painted if they catch the front.  If they would, it would be safer to just hit the visible part before it gets noticed.

We have a bunch of crazy city rules including: no trash cans visible from the street, lawns below a certain length, no commercial vehicles parked on the property, no visible boats/RVs on the property, etc.  It makes for nice looking houses and keeps the property values stable.  It is a pain in the butt sometimes.  The last time I put up a fence (at the old house, I installed a vinyl fence) the city demanded that I plant bushes every four feet along with visible edge of the fence to "obscure" the view from the road.  Yeah, a 2 foot bush obscuring the view of the 6 foot high white fence.  LOL

OMG, I live in a very HCOLA city that doesn't do shit for code enforcement. They don't initiate anything unless someone complains and even then they rarely take action.  This POS is down the street from me and the city won't do a damn thing about it. Believe me, this is a great photo. There are normally at least two more vehicles parked in front, and often another across the street. Visible boat? Check. Trash cans? Check. See that pile of bricks? It's been there for over a year and yes, that is a a public easement. Just for laughs, Zillow says this dump is worth $793k.

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9160266,-122.078413,3a,75y,88.08h,76.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1QPOZq27pYELf6jfm3yP2A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

So as much as your code enforcement is a PITA, based on this new information, it sounds like there is some good that comes from it. I think I'd just go ahead and paint the front so you don't get a complaint and be required to paint the whole thing.

Just for grins, I asked DH, who is a painting contractor, about your fence. (Seriously, his job title is Specialty Surfaces Specialist. He paints big shit.) He says best practice is to get a 10 x 15 drop cloth (or two or three, depending on the length of your fence), hang it over one side and spray it with an airless sprayer. Use DTM (direct to metal) Latex Black. With that paint, you don't need to prime first. If there is existing paint on the fence, he says to power wash or brush off with a wire brush first. After prepping and spraying, let the paint dry completely, then switch the drop cloth(s) to the other side and repeat the process. Do not use plastic, because it will stick to the fence.

Wouldn't hurt to try CL for used, clean-ish drop cloths, 'cause they're going to end up with a lot of black paint on them. OTOH, he says new ones aren't that expensive, and might be faster if you're trying to stay ahead of code enforcement.  Hope that helps!



Thanks for the tips on painting it. The front of the fence isn't very long. Just two segments of about 12 feet each. One cloth should work.

That photo would never fly in my city. I had a fence, at the old house, that was damaged by a storm. Do you see a common theme for Florida weather? And, it started to lean towards the empty lot next to me. The city noticed it and gave me 45 days to repair/replace the fence. Missing boards visible from the street would have been intolerable.

The code enforcement people are usually pretty laid back. I did have an issue with them once. There was an abandoned house on my old street with a junk van in the driveway. That van was missing windows, had all flat tires, and was horrific looking. The code enforcement people took nearly six months to remove it. They kept trying to contact the previous owner to correct it before they had to do it and fine them for it. They starting fines before that, but those fines are small compared with what they charge if they step in and fix something.

I guess I would have appreciated the extra time, if I was in that spot. But, I didn't like their patience in that case.

As an aside, my wife once got hit with a big fine from them. Before we met, she didn't have a lawn mower and didn't now the lawn. She got two warnings over a period of three weeks. Then they sent the city guys and they mowed the lawn. Cost her $180 for that single mow, and she says they didn't even do a good job. She paid it and then immediately bought a mower.  She didn't want to risk it happening again.
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Re: Repaired my Chain Link Fence
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2017, 05:57:29 PM »
I imagine its a balancing act between being flexible and upholding the rules. I have one house on my street that could use some shaping up - refuses to put in a yard, so every few months the city comes and mows the weeds. I imagine it's at least as expensive as if the homeowners hired it out instead, not to mention the added headache of dealing with the city.

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Re: Repaired my Chain Link Fence
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2017, 10:29:47 AM »
I imagine its a balancing act between being flexible and upholding the rules. I have one house on my street that could use some shaping up - refuses to put in a yard, so every few months the city comes and mows the weeds. I imagine it's at least as expensive as if the homeowners hired it out instead, not to mention the added headache of dealing with the city.
There's one around the corner that literally has no yard. No trees, shrubs, no grass, no weeds, just dirt. In a suburban tract house neighborhood! The city does nothing. I hate to think how much herbicide the guy uses. Happily, we're experiencing high rainfall levels after a many-year drought. I'm starting to see a green tinge on his dirt clods, which makes me oddly happy. Mother Nature looks like she might prevail, or at least make more work for him.